The Phoenix Suns Look to Play Defense for a Second Time this Year Against the Sacramento Kings
2011 eh? So let's start over. The calendar says so. Besides that, we've had a lot of excuses so far as to why our 2010 Western Conference Finals-worthy team is only 14-17 after 31 games this season. We lost Amare Stoudemire, we lost Lou Amundson, Robin Lopez got injured, we had a ton of new guys learning our system to start the year... then we traded Jason Richardson... and then we had more new guys that needed to fit in - and I'm already tired of just remembering all these excuses. So let's just start over. There is plenty of time left in the season to right the ship - win games, peak our team performance and make a playoff run.
You could say (and I will) that the Suns were thinking exactly along those lines judging by the way they finished 2010. They punked the Detroit Pistons with actual defense and much anticipated bench production AND broke a 4 game losing streak with a 92-75 win. The Suns as a franchise are now 62-0 when they hold an opponent below 80 points... I'm just sayin', more "D" please. Read more about that game here and here. Do it.
Now the Suns are in Sacramento to face the Kings and Tyreke Evans and start 2011 off the right way. With a "W". But still there are questions: Who will Gentry start since Sacramento is a bigger team than Detroit? Why are Warrick and Childress not playing? How are the new additions fitting in so far? What does Vince Carter eat on the team plane? I will have the amazing answers to all of those questions - all you have to do is JUMP IT FOOLS!
So Eutychus, who will Alvin Gentry start since the Kings are a bigger and better team than the Pistons - certainly we can't have Pietrus at the PF?
Per Paul Coro, again Alvin Gentry and the Suns will start Pietrus at the PF. If something works - why fix it.... Then again it might have something to do with the small line-up the Kings have been using lately.
Starting Matchups:
Steve Nash - - - - - - - Beno Udrih
Vince Carter - - - - - - Tyreke Evans
Grant Hill - - - - - - - - Fransisco Garcia
Mickael Pietrus - - - - Carl Landry / Jason Thompson
Robin Lopez - - - - - - DeMarcus Cousins
Bam. You got Questions? I've got answers.
Okay, but Eutychus - can you tell me why exactly Hakim Warrick and Josh Childress aren't playing?
I'm glad you asked, because I was bringing in the new year on Twitter and my good friend Paul Coro again came through big with some intel.
Warrick - as has been obvious to most readers, is having a tough time keeping his energy high on the defensive end of things. Maybe in practice as well but I can't say with certainty because I don't know. We all know he can keep the energy on offense, but that's not hard when you're spoon fed like an infant a la Steve Nash.
Childress - Who's minutes are you going to cut to get him in? Let's see...
Grant HIll? You mean, the guy who's about to appear in his 900th career game tonight in Sacramento? The guy who is currently 1 of only 5 NBA players in history to average 14 or more points at the age of 38 or older, joining the likes of Kareem, MJ, Karl Malone, Reggie Miller and Robert Parrish? The man who is undoubtedly as much the heart and soul of this team as Steve Nash is? The dude that without question will guard anyone in the league AND do a good job at it? I don't think so.
Okay, how about Jared Dudley? You mean, the guy who's been basically the team's leading scorer off the bench since Jason Richardson left? He's had 7 scoring games of 19 or more points his entire career, THREE IN THE LAST 11 DAYS. The same Dudley who's found his World's Most Athletic Hands from 2009-10 again? I don't think so - "MAN ON FIRE" [slurping Scott Williams voice]
Equally - Vince Carter and Mickael Pietrus are playing very well, and like Coro mentions - Alvin said he would be shortening the rotations. Does that mean Warrick and Childress will be logging Earl Clark bench time? HECK NO. Again like Gentry has said, a lot will depend on which teams we are playing and who's style fits better. For example - I am expecting to see Hakim Warrick play some quality minutes against the Kings - for one, because the last time we played the Kings Hak went off for 18 in minimal minutes and had a field day flying high above the likes of Landry, Greene and Casspi. Also, the last time Hakim played - he really did show some improved effort on the defensive end IMO.
Wow Eutychus, great answers... But I'm still wondering how our new additions are fitting in after a week and a half of 'gel-time'?
That's a wonderful question with a wonderful answer. Wonderful. The new additions are pretty much fitting right in exactly as we had planned. :) Vince Carter has scored 18 or more in both of his games as a member of the Suns and indeed is providing some of the offense we were missing after losing Jason Richardson. Pietrus has scored 10 points or more in the last 3 games and his defense is very much a noticeable improvement on the perimeter and chasing shooters on rotations. Gortat, despite being posterized and abused by Blake Griffin has also shown great defensive ability and agility as well as posting 2 double-digit scoring efforts in 4 games as a Sun (he had only 2 of those in 23 games as a member of the Magic)
Alright Euty, you think you know everything huh? Well I bet you can't tell me what Vince Carter snacks on during poker games on the team plane? Heh? Try that one on for size tough guy!
Too easy. The fool eats Mrs. Fields cookies and enjoys them with a tall glass of 2% Milk.
Okay, so I don't know about the milk... but I do know about the cookies thanks to @JaredDudley619 on Twitter. The caption was this,
So maybe the real question is this. Is Vince Carter all talk? Because I remember without a doubt that during his press conference he said he was going to find out what Grant Hill was doing and do the same. Well guess what Vince? Grant Hill doesn't eat cookies. And Grant Hill would be very disappointed. We'll keep close tabs on this new developing cookie drama.
FINE. You DO know everything. Well, tell me who's going to win tonight - the Kings or the Suns?
Tricky Tricky. I say the team who plays the better defense and scores the most points. Will Hill defend Tyreke Evans again or can Vince hold his own against the young buck? Either way I'm excited to see that Grant has some defensive help from both Pietrus and Carter. Will Landry have his usual way with the Suns (which is almost always a double-double with 7654 frustrating offensive rebounds) now that we can have Lopez or Gortat guarding the rim and pulling down rebounds all game long? We'll see.
I'm just looking forward to hearing Scott Williams say Poo-Jeter. No doubt he's been writing some awesome one liners he'll lather into the broadcast.
Also - keep an eye on DeMarcus Cousins. The rookie has shown some great promise... but also he's shown some explosive character issues. It could always get interesting with his temper. You never know - Grant Hill has been getting under some skin lately with his awesomeness, it's (his awesomeness) just been so big and bumping into everyone lately.
Anyways - here's to another Suns win and continued improvement. Remember - it's still going to take some time. Just like your New Years resolution to lose 20 pounds - it all won't happen at once. Happy New Years guys!
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A little sarcasm in the title never hurt eh?
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12
Yes, please. More sarcasm.
And some BAMF awesomeness under the skin Make it a double. Can I get Frye’s with that?
"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."
Great Picture. :D
Im looking forward to the game.. I like Omri Casspi. I mean, not as much as Goran. Not even close. But he’s definitely number 2 on my list.
If we lose this game, though, I’ll be angry.
Great preview.
Thanks for making me laugh tonight. :)
"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."
by Dragic_is_Magic on Jan 1, 2011 11:22 PM MST reply actions
I have three words, Euty.
Do. More. Previews.
You can get with this, or you can get Gortat.
by RMason on Jan 1, 2011 11:42 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Those are three good words.
"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."
by Dragic_is_Magic on Jan 1, 2011 11:44 PM MST up reply actions
+1000000000
come on euts, get to work man. the people love u.
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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 2, 2011 10:59 AM MST up reply actions
oh and why is there one rec? recc it up, motherscratchers!
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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 2, 2011 10:59 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Bastards... I was the lone reccer? That is blasphemy.
"I'm just like you, but ten times better." - Steve Nash, 2-Time MVP
This is one hilarious video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDVsOVeKFTc
Sweet preview, Eutychus.
This is super early, but you are a beast. As RMason so rightly put it… Do. More. Previews. When’d you get elevated to staff writer anyway? Had to congratulate you for that. Seth announced Dking’s promotion, but not yours. That ain’t right.
"I'm just like you, but ten times better." - Steve Nash, 2-Time MVP
This is one hilarious video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDVsOVeKFTc
Yep, Congrats.
Great write-up.
Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!
And go Shawn Watson and Barney Cotton! Seriously, leave Lincoln. Now.
Oh you don't remember?
He wrote this huge post and I invited everyone to Chucky Cheese and we had 5 dollars in tokens to see who could get the most tickets and then we went for ice-cream. We had a blast!
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12
My party was waaay better than Alex's
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12
yeah, yours was so good
I don’t remember any of it
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Sorry, but I have to be that guy.
Here are a few corrections:
While it would be even more awesome if we had held DET to 72 points, they actually scored 75.
Last time I checked, Reggie Evans plays for TOR. The Kings’ starting C is either DeMarcus Cousins or Samuel Dalembert.
Did the Kings give up on the Jason Thompson as a starter experiment already? (Not a correction, just a question)
And I don’t take kindly to being called a fool. I’ll forgive you this one time though, because of your recent promotion.
Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!
And go Shawn Watson and Barney Cotton! Seriously, leave Lincoln. Now.
by Omaha Sun on Jan 2, 2011 12:17 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
OH SNAPS. So you want to play that game!? well do i have some rebuttals for you !
1) You are exactly right
2) You are exactly right
3) You are exactly right
3) I always call my peeps fools. It’s a term of endearment…. actually I’m just a big Mr. T fan.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12
by Eutychus on Jan 2, 2011 2:34 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
P.S.
Don’t ask me where I got the whole Reggie Evans thing from… that was weird.
P.S.S.
Thanks to my invisible homie who got my back and made the corrections!
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12
Tyreke has a brother named Reggie strangely enough.
Although you’re probably thinking of the steroid sized rebounder dude for Toronto when you wrote it.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Buuuuuuuuuurn.
"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."
Mr. T doesn't spell fool with an "L".
Get wit it foooooooo!!
"I'm just like you, but ten times better." - Steve Nash, 2-Time MVP
This is one hilarious video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDVsOVeKFTc
omaha
I noticed in last nights box @ denver jthompson still starting
Lover,Poet,Suns fan,All around damn good guy.
He's been in & out of the lineup for several reasons.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
define defense....
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12
Is not holding a team to 75 pts. defense?
I just hope they can keep it up and get this season back on track.
" Dick Bavetta and Moses parted the Red Sea together". ----Charles Barkley
I think under 100 is the benchmark
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12
Good write-up. Thanks
Here’s hoping we see Frolo start to move better. He really is sluggish and defenders are always able to slap the ball ot of his hands down low. I feel a bit bad for Chil but agree that we need shorter rotation and that he’s the one who should sit right now. Gortat’s quickness and aggression are impressive. VC has always been awesomely talented. I worry that he may shoot too much. MP looks v. good so far. Go Goran! Nice to see him boll a bit. He’s a crucial piece.
Winning streak, anyone? All the way in 2011, my fellow BAMF’s!
I'm all for a winning streak. Yay.
And who knew that Gortat was such a good passer? He has some great court vision.
"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."
Yep; I didn’t know that. That’s one of the most impressive things about him so far. Loving Gortat, just want to see him start!
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jan 2, 2011 10:58 AM MST up reply actions
But we need him for the 2nd unit. :)
"I'm just like you, but ten times better." - Steve Nash, 2-Time MVP
This is one hilarious video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDVsOVeKFTc
He clicked the reply button, oh happy days!
Considering how well the second unit played last night, I think it’d be best of we didnt disrupt the chemistry there
Vince Carter>Jason Richardson
Wow, I just noticed that.
Thanks for the heads up Bkj. I was pushing for this through the game threads. I guess it’s one of his new year’s resolutions.
"I'm just like you, but ten times better." - Steve Nash, 2-Time MVP
This is one hilarious video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDVsOVeKFTc
Good write.
I hope the Suns will get the rotation set and if that means less Warrick that is fine.
I do hope Chill will get some burn before Warrick if it comes to this.
Just get some wins, how about winning 15 out of 20.
Tyreke Evans has struggled this season because of plantar fasciitis and a sore left ankle. Their rotation is even worse than ours and their coach
pretty much has no idea what the hell he is doing. If we dont blow them out, I’ll be severely disappointed
Vince Carter>Jason Richardson
Now it's offiical: I hope the Kings will win.
Oh wait, I want the Kings to win anyway. Nevermind.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Considering that you're a Kings fan...
Should we expect any less…?
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, I'm thankful!
Hey, welcome. Sacramento's a cool town.
I like cows. Mmmmmm, cows.
Every time you see him
Polish's Hammer's just so tight.
He's dope on the floor, and he's magic on the mic.
Be nice...Every town needs a claim to fame..
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, I'm thankful!
Jason Thompson is back and healthy for tonight's game..
That means our front line will have their hands full for this match up against Landry/Thompson/Cousins/Dalembert.
It’s good to see Nash’s three point stroke back.
The Phoenix Suns...Where making average players look elite happens.
Chicken or the egg with Warrick?
Nice preview, Euts. Is Warrick’s energy issue a cause or effect of his reduced role? Maybe not an answerable question. Overlord Seth? Got any info to share?
Every time you see him
Polish's Hammer's just so tight.
He's dope on the floor, and he's magic on the mic.
Even when he was scoring before he would disappear on D
He’s just not big or strong enough to hold his own against full size PF’s. He doesn’t move particularly well on D either. It looks like a lack of effort but I’m sure he’s trying. I do think he can be an effective substitute when we’re not scoring in the paint. Put him in when Gortat, MP and BAMF are on the court so there’s less pressure on him in our end.
hakim warrible
Nice to see a solid analysis of hak. I honestly hate when he gets on the floor. Anyone have any idea what his season+/- is? I know we brought him for PnR but this one trick pony really hurts us when the other team can pull 20 tricks on him. And then there are the nights when hak disappears. Where he becomes no trick pony, if you will. And if we can’t play chill, trade him. I like him but if he’s not playing, he’s too valuable to have sitting on the bench. Package him with hak for money and first round picks. Might as well get something for them.
Dies Natalis Solis Invicti
by HelioSuntric on Jan 2, 2011 9:07 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Euts is a staff writer!?!
I must say this was in my humble opinion a good move. of the many great contributors here you’re one of the best and probably the most passionate. congrats dude!!!
happy holidays everyone.
Hmm.. flawless execution there, 2Nashty.
Are you drunk?
"I'm just like you, but ten times better." - Steve Nash, 2-Time MVP
This is one hilarious video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDVsOVeKFTc
Mmm... the man should be grateful.
This is truly a gift on your part.
"I'm just like you, but ten times better." - Steve Nash, 2-Time MVP
This is one hilarious video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDVsOVeKFTc
Thanks guys
I accept this rare gift with the utmost humility
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12
Any chance Gortat starts tonight?
FroLo just doesn’t seem like he has his game legs under him yet. Gortat has been great defensively and has really surprised me thus far with his offensive repertoire.
The Phoenix Suns...Where making average players look elite happens.
Myself
I would like to see rolo start and then have the energy of gortat off the bench,He has been playing starters min anyway,Also with rolos back you will probably get the most out him beign warm at the start,Not sitting on the bench getting stiff.
Lover,Poet,Suns fan,All around damn good guy.
Not going to happen...
They like Robin with the starting unit regardless of who they think is the more effective player…at least for now.
I hope this site doesn't turn completely into snobbish
one-upmanship.
by sunsfansince1980 on Jan 2, 2011 12:41 PM MST reply actions
But I love exclusive cronyism......
Dude…as long as I’m around you’ll be fine.
RIP Seasons of Discontent
Sun God won't be.
"I'm just like you, but ten times better." - Steve Nash, 2-Time MVP
This is one hilarious video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDVsOVeKFTc
I want to know what that means?
I could google it but.. Its easier if am just told
"Are you crazy?!"
"I wouldn't say crazy. Maybe an eccentric who looks good in jeans." Psych.
Wikipedia definition:
Cronyism: partiality to long-standing friends, especially by appointing them to positions of authority, regardless of their qualifications.
RIP Seasons of Discontent
Txs..
That was kinda obvious once I thought about it. My brain is slow today
"Are you crazy?!"
"I wouldn't say crazy. Maybe an eccentric who looks good in jeans." Psych.
you talking about somthing I included in my post?
Or are you talking about the comments?
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12
or those of us who really love the Suns
but don’t have your brilliant baskball minds will feel excluded from BSOT
by sunsfansince1980 on Jan 2, 2011 12:44 PM MST reply actions
What is your specific complaint?
Not saying I necessarily disagree, but I’m not sure exactly what you mean.
Every time you see him
Polish's Hammer's just so tight.
He's dope on the floor, and he's magic on the mic.
That we're at risk of becoming some sort of elitist blog where its hard for new people to break in
Because we have tons of inside jokes and are rude to people who aren’t part of our little club. Or something.
RIP Seasons of Discontent
And, even worse.
We put words in other people’s mouths.
Every time you see him
Polish's Hammer's just so tight.
He's dope on the floor, and he's magic on the mic.
by East Bay Ray on Jan 2, 2011 1:23 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
The stuff you wrote, where you interpreted him. Do you think those are valid concerns?
There is another SBN blog that is terrible with all of those things you mention, and I’d hate to see us become that. I don’t think we are, though. We’re generally welcoming to guests and newcomers, aren’t we?
Every time you see him
Polish's Hammer's just so tight.
He's dope on the floor, and he's magic on the mic.
I’d say we are. That’s how we’ve grown this much in the first place. I’d say we may need to be a bit more careful and just remember that the more people there are the bigger and better the blog is.
Don't trade Dudley!
just let me into the group....that's all I want
by sunsfansince1980 on Jan 2, 2011 2:04 PM MST up reply actions
I vote you in based on this portion of your profile:
Believe Barkley screwed our chances by drinking all night and getting lap dances
. There’s a time and a place, ya know? The night before a playoff game is not it.
Lolz
RIP Seasons of Discontent
So you're saying there is a good time not to get lap dances...?
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, I'm thankful!
sunsfansince1980 is a she.
I’m sure for guys, we can’t think of any bad times to get lap dances.
"I'm just like you, but ten times better." - Steve Nash, 2-Time MVP
This is one hilarious video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDVsOVeKFTc
Good point..
My wife thinks there never is a good time…
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, I'm thankful!
You are already a charter member.
Welcome!
"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."
I'm jealous..I never got welcomed....
just got repeatedly insulted by brian32…
It’s made me the Sun God I am,,
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, I'm thankful!
by Daryl Ray on Jan 2, 2011 4:55 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
yes yes yes!
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12
But I worship you.
I would think a welcome is implied. Besides, I believe you’ve been here longer than me – maybe since the beginning of time.
"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."
Tghanks but some of my earliest memories are the beating I took over at the BEDGE..
The little skirmish we had with BEDGE wasn’t kind to me…
And they wonder why Grandpa Greg never gets healthy and Tree-huggers keep flocking to Portland…
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, I'm thankful!
Wow…so meta
Raising Arizona Sports at SB Nation Arizona twitter: @sethpo
by Seth Pollack on Jan 2, 2011 5:46 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I think we do alright
The concerns aren’t entirely unfounded though. I like having the in-jokes and all that jazz but I think if people want to come in and play we’re pretty good about allowing it.
What SBN blog are you talking about?
RIP Seasons of Discontent
Lookout Landing
Jeff Sullivan’s content is fantastic, but I can’t stand the culture there. It’s all “I’m stat geekier than thou”, and they seem to revel in tearing each other down. It’s also the SBN blog that is the least flexible about their stringent guidelines. God forbid you drop a “WTF” in there (chatspeak is forbidden), and I think rosterbation is punishable by death.
Every time you see him
Polish's Hammer's just so tight.
He's dope on the floor, and he's magic on the mic.
My buddy is a huge Mariners fan too...
He links me stuff from there sometimes and I go cross-eyed.
RIP Seasons of Discontent
It's very negative and clique-y
I’m sure some of the foul mood is due to the Mariners Hindenburg of a season last year, but I just can’t get comfortable over there. I read the content but don’t interact.
Every time you see him
Polish's Hammer's just so tight.
He's dope on the floor, and he's magic on the mic.
This is my own opinion..
I love basketball, but am not a stats & player follower. Stats, % , & probabilities give me head aches. Yet I still enjoy reading them when ever they r posted. Soo don’t expect anything smart & knowledgeable from me.. Just comments about me being happy about the game..
"Are you crazy?!"
"I wouldn't say crazy. Maybe an eccentric who looks good in jeans." Psych.
I think we have a solid mix around here
Seth and Alex can write about stats in a way that just exhausts me. I think enough at work so I couldn’t write like that….but that shit is really interesting.
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Jan 2, 2011 2:09 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
AGREE!!
we have stat guys and off-the-wall guys and oodles of hilarious sarcasm-dripping posts… one big orng ball of fun!!! ’specially if the SUNS get their butts in gear!!
by SteveNash, QuantumPhysicist on Jan 2, 2011 6:14 PM MST up reply actions
ch'boddis
Have to say as a new reader in the last couple years you have a very accessible blog. My favorite is lisboa’s clever criticism, movie references and rapist wit.
Dies Natalis Solis Invicti
by HelioSuntric on Jan 3, 2011 4:23 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
rapist wit?
lol. maybe you mean rapier wit. I’m not sure Lisboa wants to have rapist wit.
Blogging Suns Basketball at Bright Side of the Sun
I like this new guy.
Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!
And go Shawn Watson and Barney Cotton! Seriously, leave Lincoln. Now.
Lloyd Christmas
To be fair I stole it from dumb and dumber. Lloyd states that he will impress her with his rapist wit. But glad you laughed.
Dies Natalis Solis Invicti
by HelioSuntric on Jan 18, 2011 10:41 PM MST up reply actions
and yes
I am aware its rapier wit as in sharp like a rapier sword from fencing.
Dies Natalis Solis Invicti
by HelioSuntric on Jan 18, 2011 10:43 PM MST up reply actions
Thank you "Scott"
that’s EXACTLY what I mean….and hey, I’m a she…..gotta go to work….love you guys.
by sunsfansince1980 on Jan 2, 2011 2:02 PM MST up reply actions
Ha. Yea I read your profile after....
Sorry dudette. FYI very entertaining profile.
RIP Seasons of Discontent
always welcome here!
please come back early and often
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Welcome, welcome.
Everyone’s considered part of the crew.
"I'm just like you, but ten times better." - Steve Nash, 2-Time MVP
This is one hilarious video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDVsOVeKFTc
Great Preview Euts!Funny stuff and the tweets were great. Living up to your Staff Writer position I see which is good because you got to perform up to your contract or Seth will trade you.
Don't trade Dudley!
God forbid that Seth gets rid of Eut...
That means, we would be left with …..him whose last name is “Howard…”
Do we really want to see armegeddon first hand…?
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, I'm thankful!
Buy out his contract.
"I'm just like you, but ten times better." - Steve Nash, 2-Time MVP
This is one hilarious video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDVsOVeKFTc
Well, you can’t count anything out right now. Seth has been rosterbating recently. I don’t think he’s himself. You never know what he might do.
Don't trade Dudley!
Well Scott is untradeable...(onerous contract and behavior...)
What do you think we’d get for Trevor…?
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Trevor is a very valuable asset due to his versatility. The guy is a musician and he can blog about the WNBA too. You won’t find that much else where. Although, Euts recent signing makes Trevor expendable. I think we would could get something good for him.
Don't trade Dudley!
You're right about getting something good for him...
I love Trev, but if we package him, a few bucks, and a promise that Seth won’t wear those shoes again, we could probably pawn Scott of to the BEDGE…
At the very least, we could maybe convince them to take him on the weekendsand a few weeks during the summer as part of a joint custody arrangement..
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, I'm thankful!
I think the inner PhxStan is trying to bust outta him.
"I'm just like you, but ten times better." - Steve Nash, 2-Time MVP
This is one hilarious video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDVsOVeKFTc
Eddie Johnson's comments on Dragic
You know, in his latest column in Hoopshype ( ), Eddie Johnson places Goran Dragic at #10 on his list of the top 10 disappointing players.
The interesting thing in the column isn’t really the claim that Dragic has been disappointing—I mean, we’ve said that too. What’s interesting is that EJ thinks Goran Dragic is a poor man’s Steve Nash. I never thought Dragic was particularly similar to Nash, not really. What do you think?
by 8472species on Jan 2, 2011 1:14 PM MST reply actions
I never thought Dragic was particularly similar to Nash
agreed. They are very different players, though they both rely on spacing to play their best.
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Hmm, my link isn’t appearing… http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/johnson/2011/01/01/the-top-10-disappointments-again/
by 8472species on Jan 2, 2011 1:15 PM MST reply actions
I can't believe Baron Davis still qualifies for disappointment
Wouldn’t you have to have expectations for someone to be disappointed?
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Jan 2, 2011 1:17 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah…Baron Davis being a disappointment is old news.
by 8472species on Jan 2, 2011 1:20 PM MST up reply actions
The dissapointment is that he still has a NBA starting job...
Then again, we are talking about the Clippers…
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If David Stern were a human being, he would pressure that clown Donald Sterling to sell the Clippers.
by 8472species on Jan 2, 2011 4:37 PM MST up reply actions
and take away the running joke of the NBA..?
What’s the fun in that..?
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, I'm thankful!
Yeah, keep them around.
It’s an easy win for us. We never lose to the Clip………Aw, crap.
Every time you see him
Polish's Hammer's just so tight.
He's dope on the floor, and he's magic on the mic.
by East Bay Ray on Jan 2, 2011 4:51 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
Lol, I love Eddie. He isn’t afraid to talk smack with the readers and he does it pretty well.
Don't trade Dudley!
I just haven’t thought Nash and Dragic are similar point guards.
by 8472species on Jan 2, 2011 1:28 PM MST up reply actions
Yea, I disagree with him on that. They have similarities, but Dragic’s got his own game. I can’t see him ever averaging over 8apg. That’s just not his game. I think he’s more of a 16,6 guy tops. Similar stats to Rodney Stucky, Tony Parker…
Don't trade Dudley!
Nash played 8 seasons before he averaged double digit assists.
In Nash’s 3rd year, he averaged 5.5 assists and 7.9 points in 31 minutes per game.
"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."
right
Dragic is still young, so there’s a pretty good chance he improves on his per36 averages in the next few season. Plus, his career averages are weighed down slightly by a horrible rookie season (though not as statistically horrible a you might think).
Banzai!
Its also hard to get assists when you aren’t playing w the top scorers
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 2, 2011 5:50 PM MST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Wisdom like that is why we keep you around Seth
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
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yes, this
it’s kind of amazing that he’s got 3-4 a game right now on a consistent basis.
But I still don’t see him at 10+ a game in the future, unless he completely overcomes his own mental (confidence) limitations.
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ya i agree. 10+ is elite. that would put him at #3 in the league this year. no way should we put those kind of expectations on the #45 pick in the draft
Banzai!
by Suns' Sensei on Jan 2, 2011 10:35 PM MST up reply actions
definitely. moving from bench to starter though could also mean he faces better defenders. he may also wear himself out a bit more defending better offensive players. however, the benefits of passing to better scorers should outweigh those cons pretty significantly IMO.
Banzai!
by Suns' Sensei on Jan 2, 2011 10:31 PM MST up reply actions
I think they are similar in some key areas.
Maybe not similar in skills or style, but similar in that they penetrate and score or kick the ball back out. Niether are in the mold of the new prototye like CP3, Deron Williams, and Rose – more in the traditional mold. The similarity is they are both best suited to the Suns system of spreading the floor and evenly distributing the scoring.
"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."
However, as Seth pointed out to me a couple days ago. It’s disappointing that Gentry has to surround him with guys like Frye, Dudley… to make things easier for him where as he should be the one making things easier for the other guys. That’s the difference between him and Nash right now and that’s probably what Johnson was getting at.
I also have to add that Vince Carter playing with Dragic and the bench really took a lot of pressure off of them. Of course it was just one game, so that’s not a big sample size, but I felt Vince’s presence made everybody else feel more comfortable. That makes perfect sense to me too. Because when I’ve played basketball it always does make you and your teammates feel better that you know you’ve got a guy that can create his own shot and score pretty well in case the play your trying to run doesn’t work and you need someone to bail you out. Vince was that guy for them. Barbosa was kind of that guy last year, although not as efficiently and he tended to stop the offense more than score with in the flow of it. Still, I guarantee that his presence made Dragic feel more comfortable.
Don't trade Dudley!
by Beavis 25 on Jan 2, 2011 1:45 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I think the bigger part of that is that he has to be surrounded by players who are where they are supposed to be.
If Dragic drives to the left, draws a double team, and Turk is still standing on the 3 point line at the top right, then there’s nobody to kick it back out to for a reset, and it often resulted in a turnover.
We;ve had nine different starting lineups this year – our second team has not even had that much consistency. Throw in a couple of starts with unfamiliar personnel…
As Gentry said, he has to play better, but getting him some help is not a sign of weakness. No one player can succeed in this league without help from his team-mates – not even Jordan.
"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."
That’s also a good point and we’ll have to see how this all plays out. I don’t expect Pietrus to start PF forever and if that’s the case Dragic can’t expect to have VC bail him out through isolation if he fails to run a play on offense. He just has to stop thinking so much and play the game while learning his teammates. Like you said consistency on who Gentry plays with him should also help him regain his confidence, so he doesn’t have to be so reliant on having another scorer with him.
Don't trade Dudley!
Wow, I could never play basketball. I’m always thinking; I don’t know how to stop.
by 8472species on Jan 2, 2011 2:38 PM MST up reply actions
That's why these guys get paid the big bucks: to run around with a ball and don't think.
"I'm just like you, but ten times better." - Steve Nash, 2-Time MVP
This is one hilarious video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDVsOVeKFTc
I wonder how often Nash thinks? Everything is probably just instinct for him now, you know like breathing.
Don't trade Dudley!
Well that's how it is.
You rarely think when you’re playing. You just know where to go and how to attack. Sure, you read the defense so you know how to attack and you pay attention to your man’s every move when you’re playing defense, but you rarely “think”. You just watch and react. Even a split of a second can make a huge difference. They’re on a whole ’nother level.
"I'm just like you, but ten times better." - Steve Nash, 2-Time MVP
This is one hilarious video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDVsOVeKFTc
So I've been here for over a year but I have to ask...
How the hell is that fan confidence poll thing calculated on the homepage? I almost never pay attention to it, but I just took a long look at it 5 min ago. Overlord Seth, how do you guage “fan confidence”?
"I'm just like you, but ten times better." - Steve Nash, 2-Time MVP
This is one hilarious video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDVsOVeKFTc
Haven't you ever voted in it?
You give your little percentage of how you feel as a fan and then the results come up like 5 days later and then they do it again.
"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."
by Dragic_is_Magic on Jan 2, 2011 4:03 PM MST up reply actions
Can't say I have.
I’ve only come here to read the posts and comment on them. I am one-dimensional in that regard.
"I'm just like you, but ten times better." - Steve Nash, 2-Time MVP
This is one hilarious video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDVsOVeKFTc
excellent preview, Eut...
I’m anxious to see how our SF X 3 lineup does against Cousins & Landry/Thompson…
I think Pietrus will do all-right there….Just wondering if a Cousins/Thompson combo might creat some challenges…
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How do you guys and gals
feel about Gentry sitting Nash so long last game? I’m all for the rest but his stats will go to pot in a hurry. I say rest him the whole game and leave the stats alone.
Happy Days are here again! Wildcat's have #1 recruiting class again!
Why do you care about his stats?
The only stat I care about is the W column.
Every time you see him
Polish's Hammer's just so tight.
He's dope on the floor, and he's magic on the mic.
rec'd
Dies Natalis Solis Invicti
by HelioSuntric on Jan 3, 2011 11:16 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Is he on your fantasy team?
I couldn’t care less about his (or anyone elses) stats.
RIP Seasons of Discontent
I think Nash
deserved to have a game this year where someone other than him led the team to victory. I think that was the first time this season.
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900th game?
cool
"Men do not quit playing because they grow old; they grow old because they quit playing."
Big time I know right?
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
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re: a joke in the preview
Notwithstanding that it was only a joke, I could not care less what Vince Carter eats on the Suns’ plane or anywhere else.
by 8472species on Jan 2, 2011 4:39 PM MST reply actions
Don't like Mrs. Fields cookies, I gather..?
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What if he's eating puppies?
Would you care then? I think you would.
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Jan 2, 2011 5:02 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
What, you're having VC over for dinner?
Every time you see him
Polish's Hammer's just so tight.
He's dope on the floor, and he's magic on the mic.
As puppies are high in fat content..
I’d be very concerned…Hate to think we brought in a guy that is gonna eat himself out the rotation…
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, I'm thankful!
I thought we liked skinny Dudley now. No?
"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."
I like Dudley in any shape or size...
as long as he plays with the same amount of heart and hustle (and some potent 3-point shooting) that is.
Cookie hater
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_aKZSTo34w
"I'm just like you, but ten times better." - Steve Nash, 2-Time MVP
This is one hilarious video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDVsOVeKFTc

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