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Phoenix Suns Game Preview: Suns Vs. Boston Celtics

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Tonight the Boston Celtics pay a visit to the Valley of the Sun for a matchup against our beloved. At 35-10, the Celtics have some things on their minds that are much different than our Phoenix Suns, namely Championship Basketball. While the Suns were doing a much needed Kumbaya yesterday, the Celtics were most likely pondering which finger a potential NBA title ring goes on.

True, this is a game of two squads heading in different directions. True, these squads have one small similarity going into the game tonight: lineup and rotation uncertainty. For the Celtics, Shaquille O'Neal may play or may not play, depending on the condition of his hip. Paul Pierce left last night's game against Portland with a knee injury and is also questionable. For the Suns, Grant Hill is questionable as is the rest of the squad, with the exception of Steve Nash, who has double-doubled his way through January in all but a handful of games.

Star-divide

Here's a hint that the Suns could be changing things up yet again, even if Grant Hill can go tonight:

Alvin Gentry:

"I wanted to establish a constant starting five and then a rotation. At some stage, if it's not working out, obviously as the head coach it's my responsibility to maybe look elsewhere personnel wise and maybe make some changes in the lineup and our rotations. That's what you have to do when you're not getting done what you expect to get done..."

The starting five of Nash-Carter-Frye-Hill-Lopez and bench of Dudley-Dragic-Gortat-Warrick worked out for 5 games and then took a monstrous dump at the end of the East Coast trip and beyond. So who is left? Who will get a shot at rotation time and perhaps a crack at the starting lineup if Hill can't go tonight? Here are some amature ideas:

  • Josh Childress:   All man crushes aside, why not give Chill 5 games in the rotation with 20+ minutes? We know we will get effort, hustle, and the culmination of it all, the all important GRIT. Childress has calmly waited on the sidelines for his chance. Time to get him some consistent minutes and see what the Suns have.
  • Mikael Pietrus: AKA, the chukker, Pietrus can D it up and on occasion, catch fire from the outside. Again, time to see what the Suns have with this guy.
  • Jared Dudley: Personally I'd like to see Dudz starting next to Nash. Personally I don't care if Vince Carter plays another game for the Suns let alone in the NBA. Nothing personal, but what does Vince really have to play for? A legacy? He's not going to the Hall, and rumor has it he's retiring at season's end. Is there a small market for his "talents" to a contender down the stretch? Yes he can put up 20 on any given night, if he wants to. But sitting him or reducing his minutes doesn't exactly equate to losing out on getting rid of him for some kind of return. Further, the Suns are in experimentation territory (as they were from game 1 this season). Dudz has shown with larger minutes comes larger numbers. Give him 30+ and bring Vince in later, or um, like send him out to Mrs. Fields and see if there's time for a little basketball when he gets back. Who cares anymore?
  • Goran Dragic: Another option to start or play significant minutes alongside Nash in VC's absence. His aggressiveness has been encouraging the past couple times out. It's all confidence for Goran, and if he can find it and maintain it, then maybe you find a way to get this guy more consistent minutes whether running the point or off the ball. Like Dudz, more minutes usually equates to more production.
  • Garrett Siler:  No, no, no he doesn't deserve minutes. But maybe you send a message to Lopez: "Hey pal, 7 foot centers are supposed to rebound. Put the comic books down and start watching some old Wilt Chamberlin vids. Hell, watch some Brooke Lopez vids." And the ultimate insult would be to drop the Silo in to take some Lopez minutes. How the hell else does one motivate Lopez? Doubt anyone knows anymore.

Just some ideas, perhaps desperate, perhaps failures in the making. But if Sarver isn't just spinning the whole "we're a playoff team," which is a very good possibility in order to continue selling tickets  (and in my eyes a knock on Gentry), then there must be a combination that can produce some W's.

On To the Game

48 minutes of heart, grit, determination, freakin' pride. And most importantly offense and defense. Compete, man, compete. Maybe some of the Phoenix Suns players will consider that their fans have suffered through 10 home losses thus far this season, some more pathetic than others. Give them some enjoyment, return on their investment. Why not knock of an elite squad from the East? One night of enjoyment for your people. 

Other than that Suns can hope for absences of Pierce and O'Neal, and a  gassed Celtics squad that played last night. Oh and maybe the trust tree exercise from yesterday did something positive....

[Note by Seth Pollack, 01/28/11 2:40 PM MST ]

Marcin Gortat Respectfully Calls Kendrick Perkins A Little Dog - SB Nation Arizona
Grant Hill and Shaquille O'Neal Both Expected To Play

Grant Hill, who wasn't able to finish the Suns last game on Wednesday due to a knee sprain that was aggravated when a Bobcats player fell into it, will play according to Coach Gentry.

Shaq, who injured his hip when he slipped on the ice and has missed the Celtics last three games, is also expected to play as per a member of the Celtics media (Comcast) who travels with the team.

Onward, to the Game Day Links:

 

Phoenix Suns 'Circle' Meeting Led By Robert Sarver And His Creative Ideas On Team Building -  SB Nation Arizona 

The team gathered in a circled on the practice floor, sat down, and Sarver had each player turn to the player to his left and say something nice about him. This per one Suns player who participated. 

And while it might seem a bit unusual to pull a team building exercise out of a management book (or maybe from an episode of The Office), it really doesn't compare to Sarver's approach two years ago.

 

Phoenix Suns Face Boston Celtics In Game Of NBA Basketball - SB Nation Arizona

After talking in generalities about how physical the Celtics are, Gortat went to a pretty interesting place when it came to center Kendrick Perkins. He literally compared him to a little dog but managed to do it in a way that both made sense and wasn't offensive. At least I didn't think it was offensive.

 

Phoenix Suns Player Thermometer, Week 13: And Things Go Bad Again - SB Nation Arizona

When the team loses, it's generally because of their always-porous defense and because Steve Nash's offensive help disappears, as was the case for most of the last week. As a result, not a lot of the Suns players are what one would consider "hot." So again, this week's thermometer is more a scale of least bad to most bad.

 

 

 

Suns Owner Tries to Stay Upbeat: Az Central Paul Coro:

Some excellent gems in this one, including:

"At this point, Steve is still playing at a very high level and is a very important part of the franchise," Sarver said. "I don't see us making a trade (involving) him this year. I just don't see it.

Phoenix Suns Circle the Troops: AZ Central Paul Coro:

Been waiting to hear about the inevitable NBA team meeting?

Something must change. The Suns failed to take advantage of the soft part of their schedule and now face Boston, the East leader, Friday and New Orleans, the NBA's hottest team, on Sunday. Given how the Suns lost seven of their past 13 games against teams with losing records, facing elite opponents is cause to circle the troops.

Suns Face Boston Celtics in Game of NBA Basketball: SB Nation (Seth):

One thing hinted at by Coach Alvin Gentry is some tweaks to his lineup or rotation that would probably mean more time for Mickael Pietrus while trying to cut back on minutes for Grant Hill to help prevent running the poor guy into the ground in what has basically become a lost season. Hill left the game on Wednesday versus the Charlotte Bobcats with a knee injury. No word yet on his status for tonight.

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i agree, vince carter isnt very good

i think with his huge expiring contract we should trade him to some team who is losing money and wants to get rid of some player’s saleries. I think we should let childress get some of his minutes because as it stands now, he is going to be a part of this team much longer than vince. Vince hurts the flow of this offense by taking dumb shots all the time. The only way I can see playing him is with the bench players where he can be free to isolate a little more

by Berecki on Jan 28, 2011 11:20 AM MST reply actions  

Carter reminds me of Sam Cassel

In the 96-97 season the Suns acquired him in the Barkley trade from Houston. His numbers were good, almost 15 pts. per and 4 assists, but the team was bad.
Sam did not want to be a Sun. Coangelo traded him to Dallas for JKidd after 22 games or so.
Those Suns were very much like the current group. A lot of change, a lot of talen, and a lot of losing. They won 40 games. The next year they only won 27. The year after that 50.

Point being, Carter needs to go, he doesn’t want to be a Sun, and he is part of the reason this team isn’t going to move forwrd.
http://www.nba.com/suns/history/9697_recap.html

" Dick Bavetta and Moses parted the Red Sea together". ----Charles Barkley

by thedoovage on Jan 28, 2011 12:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Really? I thought the Suns went 56-26 after that season and than they had the lock-out season?

Don't trade Dudley!

Some people are just like slinkys, they're good for nothing
yet can still manage to put a smile on your face
when pushing them down a flight of stairs.

by Beavis 25 on Jan 28, 2011 12:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Beavis is correct.

The 16 game jump can be attributed to not just a full season of J-Kidd but also newbies Antonio McDyess and Cliff Robinson

Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent

by Scott Howard on Jan 28, 2011 12:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Sorry, I flip flopped the seasons.

They did win over 50 in 97-98 and ony 27 in 98-99, yet somehow still mad the playoffs.

" Dick Bavetta and Moses parted the Red Sea together". ----Charles Barkley

by thedoovage on Jan 28, 2011 1:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh yeah 98-99 was lockout season :)

" Dick Bavetta and Moses parted the Red Sea together". ----Charles Barkley

by thedoovage on Jan 28, 2011 1:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Who's Man?

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 28, 2011 1:21 PM MST up reply actions  

So the season is still going?:)

Well, if the Suns still want to make the playoffs they’re going to need to start beating a lot of teams they shouldn’t and win a lot of games they shouldn’t because they’ve already lost to a lot of teams they shouldn’t have. Tonight would be a good start, but I’m not counting on it. All I can really ask is that the team plays their best and plays hard.

Yea, I don’t care if Vince doesn’t play anymore. I don’t care if Gentry is still trying to figure out a lineup. We’re going to need to make trades anyway, so screw chemistry. At the same time he should let guys that are supposedly here for the long-term play. I’m talking about Chill. I still like Pietrus, but he’s a mercenary while Josh isn’t. I would like to see a starting lineup of-

Nash
Dudley
Hill(if he plays tonight)
Frye
Gortat

Yes, I want to see how Gortat does as a starter and how Lopez does off the bench. Maybe it will motivate them both?

For the bench bring out Dragic, Warrick and Lopez. Maybe give Pietrus some minutes in there too, but I really want to see Dragic get 25mpg. I want to see him get more time with Nash.

The way things are right now, why bother to play the mercenaries? Lets develop the guys that are supposedly here for the long-term. That means Dragic, Chill, Lopez and Gortat.

Don't trade Dudley!

Some people are just like slinkys, they're good for nothing
yet can still manage to put a smile on your face
when pushing them down a flight of stairs.

by Beavis 25 on Jan 28, 2011 12:04 PM MST reply actions  

for the rest of the season, and for the final kick in the ass to dragic

i want:

Nash / Pietrus
Dragic / Carter
Frye / Chilly
Hill / Dudley
Gortat / sLothpez

NYC Suns Fan!!!

by DustinAe on Jan 28, 2011 3:12 PM MST up reply actions  

I don’t think Carter will be here for the rest of the season.

Don't trade Dudley!

Some people are just like slinkys, they're good for nothing
yet can still manage to put a smile on your face
when pushing them down a flight of stairs.

by Beavis 25 on Jan 28, 2011 3:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Not gonna hate on Carter

The guy isn’t Michael Jordan—he’s similar to Jrch but also past his prime, whereas Jrich is in his prime. I never looked at him as coming in and playing amazing. He seems like a friendly guy who likes to joke around and maybe people get pissed because he doesn’t get pissed off all the time.

All that said, I agree strongly with the idea of benching Carter and playing Dudz and Goran more. Goran needs more playing time or his progress will stagnate. We all knew the best part about Carter was his contract. I don’t have much faith in Gentry realizing he should bench Carter, but we can always hold out hope.

Another idea I’ve thought about is moving Warrick back in the starting line up as a pnr player with Nash. I wouldn’t take multiple changes at once though, and I’d rather try replacing Carter in the lineup than anything else.

People have mentioned starting Gortat, but I think it’s a moot point because he’s getting starter’s minutes anyway. The one thing they should do with the big men is reduce Channing’s time and up the time for Warrick. I don’t like the lineups where Channing plays center.

by adobbs on Jan 28, 2011 12:12 PM MST reply actions  

It seems like Gentry is moving to a position where he tries a lineup for more games before making adjustments, which is essential. He was switching things up way too often before.

by adobbs on Jan 28, 2011 12:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Sarver may not "see it" but if he blindsides us with a trade, I'll cry.

Anyways…. Honestly, I’m not a Vince hater or anything. But when Alex made the post asking us how we’d set the rotations if we were head coach, I called for not playing Vince (along with a good amount of other people) because he might not be here at the end of the season. Even if he is, will he be here next year? I highly doubt it. He’s had some good games for us and some bad ones. Hey it happens. I don’t get why he gets the blame while they let Grant Hill slip when he has a poor shooting night or a blown defensive assignment. Cut Vince some slack.

The only thing I’m calling for is some consistency in terms of rotations. In terms of our wing guys, we’re pretty sure Pietrus and Chilly will be here next season and if we hope to establish chemistry and work them into the rotation, we have to cut back the minutes of 1 player, and it’s gotta be Vince. Vince is a good player. He’s past his prime but he is still a star-caliber player who demands a double team from the defense. I expect Grant to be back next season since he’s talked about playing a couple more years and I say we re-sign the guy.

Losing Nash will mean we lose Grant Hill. I think it’s safe to say that goes hand-in-hand. But other than that, if we’re chucking this season under the bus, I say we play Childress and Pietrus and give Grant some rest. Hell, give Dragic more minutes if we’re gonna give up on this season. No point in wearing out our 2 oldest players if we’re not going to make the playoffs right? Even if we make the playoffs, we should give our old guys rest so they can be in top form when the playoffs start.

I’m rambling but basically, move Vince out of the rotations. He might/might not be here by the end of the season so establish some continuity now and play Childress and Pietrus. They can play solid defense and give Grant some rest on nights where he’s not quite getting it done. Play Dragic more too. He’s been more aggressive recently and we can’t expect Steve to play over 35 MPG to scrape out wins.

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 28, 2011 12:43 PM MST reply actions  

I don’t get why he gets the blame while they let Grant Hill slip when he has a poor shooting night or a blown defensive assignment.

It’s because he’s our scapegoat:)

Don't trade Dudley!

Some people are just like slinkys, they're good for nothing
yet can still manage to put a smile on your face
when pushing them down a flight of stairs.

by Beavis 25 on Jan 28, 2011 12:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Yea, yea very funny. Just keep mocking me:)

Don't trade Dudley!

Some people are just like slinkys, they're good for nothing
yet can still manage to put a smile on your face
when pushing them down a flight of stairs.

by Beavis 25 on Jan 28, 2011 12:54 PM MST up reply actions  

We'll never stop

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 28, 2011 12:55 PM MST up reply actions  

I know… The Escape Goat is our new mascot.

Don't trade Dudley!

Some people are just like slinkys, they're good for nothing
yet can still manage to put a smile on your face
when pushing them down a flight of stairs.

by Beavis 25 on Jan 28, 2011 1:01 PM MST up reply actions  

It might also have something to do with the fact that

Grant kills himself every second he’s out there. He puts everything he has into the game. He takes good shots most of the time. And he takes on the opponents best offensive player every game. Even if he’s missing shots he’s still putting his all in, plus tough defense and being 38 can talke a lot out of your legs.

Vince is the opposite of Grant. Bad shot selection, lack of consistent effort, doesn’t fully utilize his ability often times… He also is the highest paid player and is looked on to be our leading scorer.

Completely different situations.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

And go Shawn Watson and Barney Cotton! Seriously, leave Lincoln. Now.

Super Bowl here we come!

by Omaha Sun on Jan 28, 2011 4:30 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Free Chilly.

I smell like the vault. I'm so PAID.

by RMason on Jan 28, 2011 2:02 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Does that come with free crackers...?

STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!

by Daryl Ray on Jan 28, 2011 5:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Wow

That dude just dunked himself ! LMAO

by troglodytes on Jan 28, 2011 12:53 PM MST reply actions  

Sarver isn't saying that this team is a playoff team

“I feel we have the talent to be a playoff team,” Sarver said. “We just have to bring it all together and get more consistency.”

Somebody on this blog, I think, said that you weren’t put Eddie Van Halen, Slash, Gary Hoey and Steve Vai in the same rock band.

This quote indicates that Sarver (and I don’t konw if he realizes he’s saying it) knows he has a dis-jointed conglomeration of talent. If he doesn’t realize what he’s done, then that certainly spells bad news for Gentry.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Jan 28, 2011 1:07 PM MST reply actions  

I really don't like the celtics...

and I’ll stop myself there lest the ranting begin.

"It's nice to feel good at 32. I don't feel old. I don't feel like this is getting harder. I feel like this is getting easier, if anything." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Jan 28, 2011 1:30 PM MST reply actions  

Flagged

For showing unnecessary restraint. Rant on, my grammatically-challenged friend. Have a few drinks. That usually helps.

"Moderation in all things, including moderation itself."

by East Bay Ray on Jan 28, 2011 1:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Waitaminute....That can't be 2NASHTY...

Not a single grammatical error in his post…Infreakingpossible…

STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!

by Daryl Ray on Jan 28, 2011 5:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Tha Blazers stood their ground yesterday

They lost but they were very physical all night. The Celtics should be really banged up. Great chance to win this game but then again… you never know with this Suns team.

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Jan 28, 2011 1:52 PM MST reply actions  

No I'm pretty sure we're going to lose

Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent

by Scott Howard on Jan 28, 2011 1:55 PM MST up reply actions   4 recs

lol

I can always count on you to say exactly what I was thinking.

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Jan 28, 2011 1:56 PM MST up reply actions  

When has Scott ever thought otherwise...?

STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!

by Daryl Ray on Jan 28, 2011 5:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Tell us what you really think.

Grudgingly agreed. I’ll put on a happy face but it sure doesn’t look good after past putrid performances(!). At least the game is on local TV so I won’t have to squint at a teeny grainy illegal computer feed. I can also DVR and fast forward through the really awful bits. Less emotional wear and tear.

Please go a bit for awhile, Suns.

by Van2010 on Jan 28, 2011 2:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Am working on a cloning machine... We need to

Somehow duplicate both Steve & Grant! On a serious note, I hope things get better. When the Dbacks starting going down hill. We at least had entertaining tv announcers ( I still love u Mark Grace). The Suns don’t have that! Well they do on the radio. But the games r going to b painful to watch if we r losing & listening to our current tv crew ( except for EJ)

There's something you better understand about me, 'cause it's important and one day your life may depend on it. I am definitely a madman with a box!

by Aztiramtempe on Jan 28, 2011 2:14 PM MST reply actions  

grant when he is playing good

lately, not been the case.

I dont know if its chemestry or just banged up.

Just work on the time machine first then you can go in the future get a cloning machine then go to the past and get grant hill.
problem solved.

NYC Suns Fan!!!

by DustinAe on Jan 28, 2011 3:15 PM MST up reply actions  

have a feeling we will win

this team is just like that… good to give us hope back just when we lose it… but not good enough to be constant in a longer stretch… and celtics are on b2b, wizards caought them on b2b why wouldnt we? especially if pierce doesn’t play

by zeze_999 on Jan 28, 2011 2:37 PM MST reply actions  

oh. losing streak baby

we can steal this one if Grant won’t struggle and VC played like in NYC

Headline: VINCE CANCER retired after hitting his 20,000th point..!

by sun_equalizer on Jan 28, 2011 4:25 PM MST reply actions  

Over/under on "Free Steve Nash!" chants by the national broadcasters.

I’ll set it at 13.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

And go Shawn Watson and Barney Cotton! Seriously, leave Lincoln. Now.

Super Bowl here we come!

by Omaha Sun on Jan 28, 2011 4:34 PM MST reply actions  

12....Chris Webber falls off his stool in his typical drunken-like stupor...

and forgets what the hell he said about Nash in the first place.

STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!

by Daryl Ray on Jan 28, 2011 5:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Well it's ESPN

So no C-Webb.

Achievement is its own reward, pride obscures it.

by hcblankscreen on Jan 28, 2011 6:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh nooooooooo. That means Mark Jackson, huh?

I started off not hating him too much, but his incessant babbling wore me down and now I hate him greatly. Not to Reggie Miller levels, but still fairly intense.

"Moderation in all things, including moderation itself."

by East Bay Ray on Jan 28, 2011 6:45 PM MST up reply actions  

He's no Jon Barry.

Does that help, Ray?

Man I think the game threads might be a bit quieter tonight with everyone going to the pregame meet-up. Hell the game preview thread’s pretty quiet compared to its usual amount of comments.

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 28, 2011 6:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Also because it's a Friday night and we can probably expect to lose, maybe badly.

I’ll be here, though, and I’m guessing a lot of the other non-Phoenicians will be, too.

"Moderation in all things, including moderation itself."

by East Bay Ray on Jan 28, 2011 6:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, I'll be here as well.

I hope the Suns surprise us and pull off a win. We could seriously use some morale boosting.

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 28, 2011 6:53 PM MST up reply actions  

At this point

We could blow the C’s out by 30 and I wouldn’t get very much out of it.

Achievement is its own reward, pride obscures it.

by hcblankscreen on Jan 28, 2011 7:30 PM MST up reply actions  

gotta be ready for a 30-win season

the platinum rule

NO Gasol, NO Shaq equals NO Championship.

by Christian_33 on Jan 28, 2011 4:42 PM MST reply actions  

Suck on that Cavs.

Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent

by Scott Howard on Jan 28, 2011 5:15 PM MST up reply actions  

no blowout pls. we are on ESPN

the platinum rule

NO Gasol, NO Shaq equals NO Championship.

by Christian_33 on Jan 28, 2011 4:56 PM MST reply actions  

My thoughts exactly. Please, Suns, don't embarrass yourselves on national TV.

Yes, my expectations have sunken that low.

"Moderation in all things, including moderation itself."

by East Bay Ray on Jan 28, 2011 5:16 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah.

They’re kinda like Chris Farley in Tommy Boy at this point, specifically when Tommy is first trying to sell the brake pads to customers and lights a fire a potential customers office, so go the Suns in national tv games this year.

On the bright side, we all know what became of Tommy.

I smell like the vault. I'm so PAID.

by RMason on Jan 28, 2011 6:01 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Marcin Gortat Respectfully Calls Kendrick Perkins A Little Dog

love it, haha

the platinum rule

NO Gasol, NO Shaq equals NO Championship.

by Christian_33 on Jan 28, 2011 5:19 PM MST reply actions  

Grant will coach all star celeb??

really? and duds?

the platinum rule

NO Gasol, NO Shaq equals NO Championship.

by Christian_33 on Jan 28, 2011 5:21 PM MST reply actions  

Hey now.

Don’t be mean to Vince Carter.

by Azreous on Jan 28, 2011 5:34 PM MST reply actions  

Good post, Wil...

Honestly, I feel that this team will get instantly better the moment we ship Vince Carter off to wherever…He drags this team down with his very precense…

How the hell did that Ancient Mariner dude get that albatross off his neck, anyway…?t

STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!

by Daryl Ray on Jan 28, 2011 5:35 PM MST reply actions  

Ancient Mariner dude?

This reminded me of Ken Griffey Jr., and actually, Carter’s tenure here reminds me of Griffey’s lackluster return to the M’s, being caught taking a nap during games and whatnot.

I smell like the vault. I'm so PAID.

by RMason on Jan 28, 2011 6:03 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Big difference, though.

Since Suns fans have no reason to like VC at all, we wish things upon him ranging from benching to arson. With Griffey and the M’s, fans had such fond memories of Griffey being the best player in team history that it was more like, “Aw, this is just sad. That poor old guy who was league MVP once now can’t hit for shit. Oh well, I can still close my eyes and pretend it’s 1995 when he goes to bat.”

And, VC is underperforming, but Griffey was unbelievably pathetic in his return to Seattle. In 2010 he hit .184 with 0 HRs and 7RBI in 108 plate appearances as a designated hitter. If only there was a position called “designated ground out weakly-er”, he would have been perfect. As a Mariners fan, it truly was sad to see the guy I consider the greatest hitter of his generation (partly because I’m almost sure he was one of the few who was clean) look so overmatched at the plate at the end.

"Moderation in all things, including moderation itself."

by East Bay Ray on Jan 28, 2011 6:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Who’s Brooke Lopez? I bet she’s hot. I would totally watch her video.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jan 28, 2011 6:02 PM MST reply actions  

WIL you complete me

My thoughts exactly with Vince – sit him on the bench and put our supposedly future dudes in the game. that is all.

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Jan 28, 2011 6:12 PM MST reply actions  

Grrrrr 1 hour and 30minutes more....

can’t wait

the platinum rule

NO Gasol, NO Shaq equals NO Championship.

by Christian_33 on Jan 28, 2011 6:58 PM MST reply actions  

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What Free Agents to Go After???
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Possible Plan to Help Thin Out Our Roster Needs
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Thank You BSOTS. Thank You Phoenix Suns.
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The Quest for the Ring...
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NBA Draft 2012

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