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Dave's slightly random, mildly incoherent, vastly uneducated, and completely bullet-pointed thoughts on the Phoenix Suns

There has been a lot of chatter lately about the Suns moving Steve Nash. Most ESPN commentators think we should trade him immediately, most probably to the Lakers for Luke Walton and a 2nd round draft pick in 2038. There's also more talk about the Suns in general, should they make a move, should they stay put, will they make the play-offs, if they make the play-offs will they advance or get swept out of the first round? These questions will most likely last until the trade deadline, despite the fact that we just kicked Celtic ass on National TV last night. I thought I'd chuck my two pence into the conversation in bullet point form.

  • A lot of people are saying the Phoenix Suns owe Steve Nash and need to trade him so he can win a championship. I don't buy this. Nash was a fringe all-star before he came back to Phoenix, a lot of his success can be attributed to the system and players we put round him. Does Nash win the MVP's, become the NBA's media darling for a good 3 years, and get all those endorsement deals without coming back to Phoenix? I don't think he does. Don't get me wrong Nash is an amazing player, but the only thing we OWE him is the $10 million dollars left on his current deal.
  • All the main championship contenders either have stud point guards or ball-dominating wing players (Rondo, Rose, James/Wade, Bryant), or don't have any assets worth giving Nash up for. Imagine if we traded Nash to the Celtics for table scraps. He'd spend a year with a team full of players who would best be described as a word my girlfriend won't let me say, but rhymes with Punt, wouldn't fit the system, would basically be charged with standing back and firing up three's, and then what if it didn't result in a championship anyway? The Suns would have screwed themselves over talent wise, most likely lost a lot of fans for dumping one of the NBA's favourite players, and wouldn't have benefited Nash in the process. Its a lose-lose situation all around.
  • I feel completely differently about Grant Hill. The guy signed with us for a lot less the summer before last, when both the Celtics and Knicks were offering him more money. The thing with Grant is, I don't know what he wants, does he want to compete for a championship or would he rather stay with his buddy Nash in the desert and see what happens? I don't know the answer to this, and you don't know the answer to this, but the Sarver/Babby/ Blanks triumvirate can easily find out the answer to this. If he wants to stay (oh god i hope he wants to stay) then extend him for as long as he wants. If we wants to go then let other teams know he's available, wait until the deadline and let him pick any team he wants to go to that has made an offer for him. 
  • I don't like that we basically have a countdown to suckitude with Nash's contract ending. Has anyone seen the Cavs this year? They lost one player and now they suck more than a Dyson vaccum cleaner. I don't want this to be the Suns. Even if Nash extends he probably has a maximum of three years left, and he'll probably decline steadily in each of those years. We need to get some hope from somewhere, a player we can look at and say "that guy is going to be awesome one day and might lead us to a championship", a player who when were in the midst of a 20 win season, we can enjoy watching develop and look forward to better times. Right now when Nash leaves our best player will probably be Jared Dudley, i don't want to live in a world where Jared Dudley is the best player on a team. We need to get some young guys with potential from somewhere.
  • The above point is why I'm not totally averse to trading Nash. I'd like to see us put a team round him that is championship calibre, but i don't see that happening. If we can't win with him, then use him to put the Suns in the best possible position to win without him. People say we can't trade him to a team that isn't a contender because its not fair, but say we could trade him to the clips for Bledsoe, Aminu, Jordan and Minnesota's unprotected 2012 first rounder (not advocating this trade or suggesting the clips would even do it), have you seen Nash's movies? He might like chilling in the Heart of Hollywood for the twilight of his career and chilling with his buddy Baron Davis and tossing up alley-oops to Blake Griffin.
  • If you're averse to trading Nash what about taking on a bad contract to add pieces? Would you send Vince Carter to Philly for Jrue Holiday/Evan Turner/Elton Brand, knowing that Brand is $15million dollars of crapitude (although ironically would probably be an upgrade at the four for us right now)? What about Carter and Dragic to the Clippers for Baron Davis and Eric Gordon? Or taking Desagana Diop to get Gerald Wallace? Or Carter for Deng and Taj Gibson?
  • I kind of want to see the Suns blow it up, just because i'm curious to see if ESPN would use the word 'Supernova' when writing about it.
  • If Vince Carter is still a Sun at the end of the year then i will be sorely disappointed in Suns management. Did anyone see the haul Houston got last year for T-Mac's expiring contract? I'm not expecting that much because expiring contracts aren't as valuable this year because there are less free agents coming on to the market, but at least Carter can still walk.
  • A lot of people think we need a power forward to go back to the level we were last year. I don't we necessarily do. I just think we need another star who can take the pressure of Nash, and who can score consistently, if we have this then we can get by with a power forward like Taj Gibson or Brandon Bass. Sure Blake Griffin or Josh Smith would be nice, but Danny Granger or Kevin Martin would be just as effective (obviously we wouldn't play them at power forward).
  • I'm not sure i buy the argument that we shouldn't make any moves this season, because we need to maintain chemistry so we can make the play-offs. As we are currently constructed, a team like the Lakers or Spurs will be able to take Nash out of his game and make guys like Channing Frye and Jared Dudley beat them. If all making the play-offs this season will achieve in a first round exit, then I'd rather make my moves this season and introduce the stability next season (when we aren't fighting from behind like we are now), and we have more of a hope for competitiveness in the later rounds.
  • Does anyone else miss Barbosa? I think the best thing about him was those puppy dog eyes he had that were just like my dog's. In fact my dog's personality is pretty much exactly the same as Barbosa's, always happy and keen to please. Only difference is Molly doesn't threaten to drop 40 on any given night, and she passes more.
  • I don't like the idea of 'untouchables' in the NBA trade market. A player is on only untouchable until someone offers a better player for them. Everyone saying that Nash is untouchable would probably change their mind if the right deal along. In fact, i'm sure he'd become very 'touchable' if the Bulls offered Derrick Rose or the Thunder Offered Kevin Durant.
  • I know this probably won't go down so well after the Celtics game yesterday, but i freaking love Kendrick Perkins. He just doesn't take shit from anybody, i love that attitude, and unlike Kevin Garnett he'd probably back it up. He's probably the only Celtic i like other than Ray Allen. If there are any Jedis reading this then please pull a mind trick on Danny Ainge and make him trade us Ray-Ray and Perk for Vince Carter and Garrett Siler.
  • GO SUNS! That is all.

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