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Marcin Gortat, Suns Hang On To Beat Hornets In Wild Finish, Win 104-102

Chris Paul, meet Marcin Gortat. You're probably not going to like shooting over him very much. (Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images)

If Marcin Gortat hasn't done enough to earn your respect and love, just watch the second half of tonight's game. Going into the half, he was limited by foul trouble and Robin Lopez playing well. But when he entered the game in the second half, he was an entirely different player. And he never looked back from there.

We saw a highly contested game in the first half, with the two teams seemingly trading baskets. If the Suns went on a run, New Orleans would answer with a run of their own. For every rebound a Suns big pulled down, Emeka Okafor would pull down two offensive boards. For every sweet assist from Suns newcomer Zabian Dowdell, Willie Green or Marcus Thornton would step up and drain a three.

The Suns then decided that they had had enough. Using a third quarter surge from center Marcin Gortat, Phoenix outscored the Hornets by 8 in the quarter. In the fourth quarter, the Suns bench came in and extended the lead to 10 when Nash came back in. It looked like the game was all but wrapped up, but when you're dealing with a top 10 team like New Orleans, you can't let off the gas pedal.

With the Suns up by 7 with just over a minute to go, the Hornets went on a nearly game-winning run. Click the jump for the full story.

Star-divide

The Final Minute

I'm going to basically give a play-by-play, because it's still just amazing to me that we were even this situation.

With 1:02 left in the game, Vince Carter missed a 26-foot three point jumper. Trevor Ariza pulled down the rebound, advanced the ball to Marcus Thornton, and Thornton drew a foul on Grant Hill. After sinking one of two free throws, New Orleans found themselves down by six. The Suns inbounded the ball to Steve Nash who was fouled and consequently sunk both free throws.

Suns are up by eight. Everyone on Planet Orange figured this was another mark for the win column.

However, after a Thornton miss and an Ariza offensive rebound, New Orleans found a wide open Chris Paul who drained a three pointer. At this point, New Orleans trails by only five points. Grant Hill then tries to inbounds the ball to Steve Nash, but it's picked off by Trevor Ariza. He swings it over to Chris Paul who draws the phantom foul on the three pointer. He steps up to the line and sinks all three. Hornets down by two.

After several failed inbounds attempts, Grant Hill throws a long pass to Nash who somehow saves it from going out of bounds, but gets it to Carter who then steps out. Turnover Suns. New Orleans has the ball with 10.4 seconds left. They get the ball to Marcus Thornton who missed a jumper from point blank range. Game over, right? Wrong. Chris Paul gets the rebound, pulls it out beyond the arc, and fires up a prayer at the buzzer. It misses.

Game over. Suns win.

Post-Insanity Thoughts

My heart is still racing over this game. In what should have been the Suns easily finishing the game with a win over a very solid New Orleans team, we found ourselves with one of the wildest finishes of the season. I'll let Seth or one of the other stat heads do the more in depth analysis of the final minute, but all I can say is this Suns team needs to know when to keep their intensity up.

Granted, I was one of the many who thought this game was over. However, when you're on the court launching three pointers and tossing lazy inbounds passes, you are basically setting yourself up for this kind of situation.

I can't exactly fault Gentry for keeping Gortat in the game. Gortat was playing out of his mind, posting a career high 25 points on a near perfect 9-10 shooting, and was coming up with some huge rebounds and defensive plays. However, after his second half explosion, he was very clearly gassed. I understand wanting to leave him in the game and let him ride off into the sunset, but when New Orleans started making their run, you have to wonder if the much fresher Robin Lopez would have been a better option down the stretch.

I'm not knocking on Gortat in the slightest. I'm not even sure if he and Lopez had switched spots for the final minute if it would have made any difference. But the lack of focus and intensity to finish off the game has me a bit worried. Had Thornton nailed that short range jumper with time running out, the game would have gone into overtime with all the momentum in the Hornets' favor.

The Suns are very clearly still a team in progress. Yes, this was a much needed win against an impressive New Orleans team, but there is simply no excuse for the breakdown in concentration. I sound more negative than I would probably like or than I actually am, but I'm simply trying to stress the importance for this team to realize that it cannot take even 60 seconds off against the better teams of the league. We're simply not good enough for that. And with each win inching us closer and closer to the playoff picture, this team needs to realize just how important those waning moments are.

That said, I'm impressed with the way the Suns came out of the locker room in the second half. They were a team focused. They made stops. They grabbed rebounds. They started knocking down the jumpers they were missing earlier in the game. There was a poise present that reminded me of the Boston game. We saw a team hungry for a win, and that's exactly what we needed to see.

Aside from that final minute, I was very impressed with the way this Suns team played.

Other Post Game Thoughts

  • Zabian Dowdell did much better than I anticipated. He came in, allowed Nash to rest, and didn't lose the lead. Yes, the offense was stalled and generally out of sync, but his energy and poise allowed him to make the correct play. Usually.
  • Vince Carter started the game attacking the hoop and playing pesky defense. His play dropped off as the game went on, but it was his attitude at the start of the game that set the team up for success.
  • Steve Nash posted his 27th double double of the season. Is there any question that even at age 36 (37 in eight days) he's still one of the best point guards in the league?
  • Chris Paul maintained his "Suns killer" status in today's game. He finished with 26 points, 12 assists, 3 rebounds, a steal on 50% shooting (50% from three point land). He also got to the free throw line 10 times, where he made all 10 free tosses.
All in all, a win is a win. Now let's hear your comments on the insane finish to the game.

[Note by Trevor Paxton, 01/30/11 9:33 PM MST]

Let the postgame Tweets fly!

Via Chris Paul's Twitter:
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Grant Hill, talking about his block on Thornton in the final seconds (via Seth's Twitter):

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[Note by Seth Pollack, 01/30/11 10:26 PM MST ]

Suns Hold Down Pesky Hornets, 104-102 - SB Nation Arizona
"I think we're starting to come together. You're always kind of hesitant to say that with us, but seven out of the last ten (wins)...we're starting to get confidence, we're starting to get a feel for one another and a comfort level with the new guys," Hill said. 


Something to watch for moving forward: The Suns offense stalled in the fourth quarter (16 points) in part b/c the Hornets were switching the screens. With a small on Gortat, the Suns time and again ignored him in the post. When teams switch the Nash/Frye screens they mostly have gone after the small in the post. Obviously, Nash doesn't have enough confidence in Gortat's post game to do that and teams are going to take notice and switch the screen and roll more with him in the game.

Just something to keep an eye on in the future...doesn't take away from the progress Marcin has made on his spacing on the roll and his finishing has improved a lot. 


Game Notes

1st Qtr

  • David West blows by Frye for a put-back dunk. Can't have that.
  • ROBIN!!!! How do you miss that? I am not even sure how it is physically possible to miss that from 2 inches. Earl Barron is disappointed.
  • Offensive rebounds killing Suns. Fortunately, the Hornets aren't generating anything on offense. 6 so far. That's a lot in a half. It's a SHIT TON in just 4 minutes of play.
  • OK Robin, stand tall. That was a nice OReb and aggressive move to draw the foul....no really, go ahead and stand tall.
  • Love that. In transition Robin runs to the front of the rim and with David West on him in the cross match seals and draws the foul.
  • Robin just passed up a wide open three. Marcin is disappointed.
  • That was pretty good defense by Nash on Paul to bother him enough so Frye could block the shot.
  • Vince attacking Belinelli one on one. Keep going to that. MB can't guard Vince, or at least Vince can't let himself be guarded by MB.
  • I've not been all that impressed with Chris Paul's shot selection so far in this game. He's channeling his inner Kobe...and missing.
  • 2nd foul on Gortat. Warrick in for him. He stayed on the court just two minutes. Tough start.
  • Nice strong post move from Vince for the and 1. More of that might keep him from being the object of so much hate.
  • Even David Anderson posts up Hakim Warrick. Got to front that.
  • Great flop from Vince! He really doesn't even have to act like the hit was painful.
  • Zabian!!! The crowd responds with complete bewilderment.

2nd Qtr

  • Z hits a pull up in the lane. He knew he would be tested early as a new kid on the floor.
  • Hornets take the lead on a Willie Green three.
  • Monty Williams called Jared Dudley a game-changer. Respect.
  • Zabian getting into the lane and finding Warrick. Helps that he's on the floor w/ Frye as the other big to space things. Goran always looks better when he's playing w/ Frye instead of Gortat.
  • Robin now in for Frye along w/ Warrick. We'll see how the offense changes now.
  • 36-40, NOH. 6:00. Starters back in. 15 bench points for Hornets. 11 for Suns.
  • Warrick's mid-range game is non-existent. That makes it really hard to get much done.
  • Suns pace just isn't there. Need some faster play...like that miss from Vince.
  • And that miss from Frye.
  • Here's all you need to know about Gortat's post game. Nash dribbles through the paint on the baseline. Hornets switch so Okafor is on Nash. Gortat goes right to the block with Paul on him. Nash looks at him and passes the ball to Frye for a contested three.
  • Suns were down 10 but have cut it to 47-50.
  • Come on, can we not play Hammer Time when Marcin hits a 15 foot baseline fade away?
  • Hill streaks the left side for a lay up.
  • I've never been able to wrap my head around David West's game. If he's not hitting mid-range shots, what else is he doing?
  • 53-53 at the half

3rd Qtr

  • Jason Smith starting for Okafor. That's quite a different matchup for Robin.
  • Nash with a no-look over the head pass to the ref standing behind him. All money.
  • Robin's having a horrible start to that half and he seems to know it. Stepping up his intensity after a couple of dumb plays.
  • Hill just lost Belinelli on that cut...layup time.
  • Suns hitting some threes this quarter though, up 70-68
  • Now that is Hammer Time!
  • Ariza playing well now. He's a good player when he doesn't have to be the number one option like he had to try to do in Houston.
  • Chris Paul hasn't been all that impressive but he has 12 pts, 8 assists. Kind like a Nash game where you don't really notice how much he's doing to run things.
  • MP hits a three...good shot, with his feet set. Immediately comes back and jacks one up with 7 on the shot clock falling to his left. Chill, bra.
  • Pretty darn good rotation by the Suns defense.
  • Z coming back in. Fan behind me said, "Come on, 10 day."
  • 88-80

4th Qtr

  • Gortat got lucky there. He lost the ball going up but got fouled anyway.
  • Hornets D playing well here plus Suns O not doing much to create open looks.
  • 35 points in the 3rd quarter for the Suns. Big time against this Hornets defense.
  • Suns bench versus Chris Paul, 6-6 so far in the qtr. That will work.
  • Jared Dudley, instant offense.
  • Not exactly sure how that crappy offensive possession ended up with Gortat open at the rim, but that's what happened. Good play by the bench here.
  • Gentry calls a time out after Suns secure offensive rebound. 98-88, Suns. Bench +2 against Hornets who played Paul the entire quarter.
  • Pietrus has never met a three he doesn't like
  • Hornets look like they are going to switch the high screen and roll from here on in.
  • Gortat on a tear. Career-high 25 points along w/ 9 rebounds.
  • Suns up 102-90 with 2:35 to go.
  • Ariza on Nash now. A little late for that but Suns not scoring either.
  • Hill fronting West gets beat by the lob pass. Suns trying to blow this game? 102-96 with 1 min.
  • Looks like Suns are going to hold them off like a bad bug.
  • Well...Paul hits a three and then the Hornets steal the in-bound pass and Frye fouls Paul taking a three. 104-102. Suns ball. 12 seconds. This would be an EPIC collapse.
  • And the Suns turn it over...Epic Collapse Alert!!!
  • Phew.


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here's one thing Lopez could have done:

score 1-2 baskets in the final 2 minutes when the Suns needed to stop jacking 3s (although they were fairly wide open, especially Carter’s). Gortat was so gassed he got blocked by a guard on his last attempt to finish.

What I LOVED was Gortat’s block after his last successful p-n-r finish. He looked so damn tired, but somehow he blocked a baseline jumper like he was sleepwalking. Didn’t even smile and barely jogged back down the court. That was hilarious, and yet should have told Gentry to put Lopez back in.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 30, 2011 9:24 PM MST reply actions  

let's not forget

Lopez got 10 points and 6 rebs in only 17 minutes. Pretty darn good till you notice Gortat’s line in only 26 minutes.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 30, 2011 9:25 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

There's nothing better than watching two guys compete

for the starting role. This is good for the team. Fun to watch.

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Jan 31, 2011 7:23 AM MST up reply actions  

One man competition

The only guy competing is Gortat. Lopez plays like a rookie in his first game every time out. Gortat is a guy that gives you a double double in points and bounds, Lopez never gets position and has clumsy hands. Start Gortat, put Lopez on the bench behind the back-up center. Lopez is still too timid for this league.

by Arizona Retiree on Feb 1, 2011 10:38 AM MST up reply actions  

personally

I think benching Lopez would be more detrimental to him mentally than anything else we could do. Gortat has had a few good games in a row but it’s important to see that Lopez is improving as well. Gortat is used to coming off the bench and he’s still getting the job done whether he starts or comes in with the 2nd unit, I think for now it’s better to keep things the way they are and see what happens.

by Ceek on Feb 1, 2011 11:23 AM MST up reply actions  

Don't even try.

AZ Retiree hates Lopez. Logical and reasonable thinking won’t do any good.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

And go Shawn Watson and Barney Cotton! Seriously, leave Lincoln. Now.

Super Bowl here we come!

by Omaha Sun on Feb 1, 2011 12:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Should we start listing the official player haters?

Arizona Retiree hates Lopez.
TheRza82 can’t stand Warrick.
Scott Howard wants to light Vince Carter on fire.
Catamaran1 is jealous of Jared Dudley. (To the point of showing troll-like symptoms, may very well be a troll)

Am I missing anyone else?

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by NashMV3 on Feb 1, 2011 9:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Jacob despises Eric.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

And go Shawn Watson and Barney Cotton! Seriously, leave Lincoln. Now.

Super Bowl here we come!

by Omaha Sun on Feb 2, 2011 12:07 AM MST up reply actions  

Well-done,

although i think it was the other way around. Esau was jealous of Jacob. Or am I a terrible Christian?

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

And go Shawn Watson and Barney Cotton! Seriously, leave Lincoln. Now.

Super Bowl here we come!

by Omaha Sun on Feb 2, 2011 6:36 PM MST up reply actions  

No hate

If Lopez played well consistantly and produced at least 10 points and 10 boards a game I would be a supporter. Nash out rebounds Robin. Lopez fades when the game is on the line. He seems to need to be reunited with Brook.

If Lopez’s play improved I’d get off his case, but right now it is imperative that we start and play our best guys and not worry about fragile egos.

by Arizona Retiree on Feb 2, 2011 10:20 AM MST up reply actions  

Sure Gortat has played well

but so as Robin. Let’s not take anything away from the kid.

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Feb 1, 2011 9:29 PM MST up reply actions  

I also ...

Have to discredit the ball movement for not find Gortat who was in the last few minutes (and several other times during the game) posted up against a guard 10 feet from the basket. They need to exploit this as Seth stated or teams will take notice and attempt to use it to stall our offense. Especially the good teams.

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by antiw0rm on Feb 1, 2011 8:43 AM MST up reply actions  

The ending though was just weird

Of all people, it was Grant Hill who threw away both inbound passes. Suns looked terrible getting that ball in.

Credit to the Hornets for not giving up.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 30, 2011 9:26 PM MST reply actions  

Yes I thought it was strange that Grant made both bad passes

but on the other hand, Paul and Ariza are some very above average defenders.

Trade Warrick!!!

by jc79 on Jan 30, 2011 10:01 PM MST up reply actions  

The second pass wasn't bad - Nash got to it and got it to Carter. He was hooked and pulled out of bounds.

They covered us as tight as a gnat’s ass, and it was the only option he had. That one wasn’t Grant’s fault, and not Carter’s, either.

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by haremoor on Jan 30, 2011 10:05 PM MST up reply actions  

yea that's a weird thing

All the write ups are all over the goal tend, but no one’s got anything to say about that hook, nor the inexplicable foul on channing on that 3…for the life of me I can not see a foul on that play..

by Fritzy on Jan 31, 2011 12:45 AM MST up reply actions  

the foul on Frye against Paul on the 3 was the one that was BS. Frye stood straight up and Paul jumped at him and fell down.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jan 31, 2011 12:53 AM MST up reply actions  

that was a bad pass. it was too far.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jan 31, 2011 12:52 AM MST up reply actions  

That’s what Grant said…bad pass

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by Seth Pollack on Jan 31, 2011 7:39 AM MST up reply actions  

C'mon,----maaaaan!!!!

I love coach Gentry, but he must call a time out in the last 3 min. to remind the Suns to ice the game and take care of the ball. The Suns were celebrating with three minutes to play. Your fault coach. Learn the lesson and we will see the Suns in the playoffs.

by Arizona Retiree on Feb 1, 2011 10:44 AM MST up reply actions  

Not really.

I’ve seen quicker.

And yes, TWSS.

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by noonoo on Jan 30, 2011 9:27 PM MST up reply actions  

nice win

Grant is hurt, I think

the platinum rule

NO Gasol, NO Shaq equals NO Championship.

by Christian_33 on Jan 30, 2011 9:28 PM MST reply actions  

hurt, yes

nursing a lot of 38-yr old nagging injuries.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 30, 2011 9:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Gah... I think he just needs some rest.

I can’t wait till the All-Star break.

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 9:34 PM MST up reply actions  

yep

I do think Pietrus can help by playing some minutes. We can live with the offbalance shots if he plays quality defense.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 30, 2011 9:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Forget the near heart attack at the end.

The Suns just beat a quality opponent for the 2nd time in 3 nights! No complaints from me. And, then there was Gortat, leading the team in scoring and rebounding in only 24 minutes of action.

Can we dare to dream of making the playoffs?

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Whatever I say, Polish Hammer will back."

by East Bay Ray on Jan 30, 2011 9:28 PM MST reply actions  

Yesh. I daresay we can dare to dream of making the playoffs.

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 9:33 PM MST up reply actions  

The Gortat/Lopez combo is very nice

I love Gortat’s energy, and Lopez definitely seems to be coming around.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 30, 2011 9:33 PM MST up reply actions  

I think FS Arizona called them the two-headed monster.

Interesting name, but I’m more interested in the fact that we now have 2 high-quality centers.

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 9:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Agreed that it's a great tandem.

And, Lopez is coming around some, but Gortat is playing out of his mind, and is getting better as he gains confidence.

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Whatever I say, Polish Hammer will back."

by East Bay Ray on Jan 30, 2011 9:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Can you imagine how good Dallas would be if he were playing for them?

Gortat and Chandler >>>> Chandler and Haywood.

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 9:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Haywood sucks

I was so glad when Dallas resigned him for so much money

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 30, 2011 9:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Should I add one more ">" for good measure?

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 9:39 PM MST up reply actions  

don't waste any more time

rosterbating on what might have been for a rival team

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 30, 2011 9:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Seriously.

Rosterbating for your friend is just weird

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by Trevor Paxton on Jan 30, 2011 10:02 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

It's not weird.

It’s fucking sick.

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 10:03 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

c;mon guys share the love

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by Will Slaven on Jan 30, 2011 10:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Well see, it's not so weird

What if he only has nubs instead of hands?

by lixuec on Jan 31, 2011 12:07 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Gorat is developing some consistency....that is very, very exciting.

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by Scott Howard on Jan 30, 2011 9:38 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

consistent bigtime energy, I'll say

and ready for the passes now, too. He actually made a nice one-handed reach-back catch on a Nash pass from under the basket.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 30, 2011 9:40 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

The poster on Pondexter and the dunk on CP3....

Didn’t think he was going to slam those. Feel like he would have layed them up a week ago.

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by Scott Howard on Jan 30, 2011 9:41 PM MST up reply actions  

It seemed like he had more dunks in that 1 game than he had had all year before.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

And go Shawn Watson and Barney Cotton! Seriously, leave Lincoln. Now.

Super Bowl here we come!

by Omaha Sun on Jan 31, 2011 9:33 PM MST up reply actions  

And he bailed us out when he caught Zabian's pass.

I thought it was a nice pass at first, but it was a very lucky catch. The possession was almost blown, but Gortat bailed us out. Plus he’s dunking with authority now.

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 9:42 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

5 double doubles in his last 7 games.

I want more of that!

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Whatever I say, Polish Hammer will back."

by East Bay Ray on Jan 30, 2011 9:44 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

With Sun God passed out, you'll get more than you can handle.

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 9:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Dowdell

had some nice passes tonight. Seems pretty good at p-n-r passes.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 30, 2011 9:45 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

Yeah his pass to Warrick was vintage Steve Nash.

That was fucking beautiful.

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 9:46 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

'Tis a beautiful sight.

He’s now starting to come around to his Polish Hammer nickname.

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by Trevor Paxton on Jan 30, 2011 9:45 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I enjoy it.

He had 6 and 5 in something like 8 minutes of the first quarter. If he can become more consistent throughout the course of a game, he’ll be an irremovable part of our rotation for a long time to come.

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by Trevor Paxton on Jan 30, 2011 9:48 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

We got 35 pts, 17 rebs from the C position

I’m loooovin’ it

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by PHXSunsRunNGun on Jan 30, 2011 10:36 PM MST up reply actions  

the Gorpez

Gorpez smash puny centers

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by HelioSuntric on Feb 1, 2011 11:39 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

who's good at photoshop?

Picture This: lopez’s fro and crazy eyes on gortat’s pasty white skin but turned green and looking like possibly the best two center combo we have ever had in phoenix.

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by HelioSuntric on Feb 1, 2011 11:51 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

great comments!
We may have gotten a little lucky, but we were good, too, and luck is a part of a playoff run. So I’ll take that too.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 30, 2011 9:35 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I do miss your presence in the game threads.

Couldn’t agree more.

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 9:36 PM MST up reply actions  

I read the entire second thread - it's actually pretty positive - with some notable exceptions.

But they drive me a little crazy, and I’m a lot happier not worrying about somebody being wrong on the Internet and just watching the game. I think most people are happy to not have the optimism police around, and I think It’s luckier when I’m out of them. But I appreciate you saying that.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 30, 2011 9:46 PM MST up reply actions  

I've been missing the games lately (and threads)

due to a new crazyish schedule. But I would have been disappointed to find that you chose to skip it if I had made it there.

So yeah, I’m saying something like “Attend game threads, in case I do.”

by waxmonkey on Jan 30, 2011 10:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Well, if you attend meet-ups that I go to, I'll attend game threads that you are on.

Deal, bitch?

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 30, 2011 10:08 PM MST up reply actions  

I ain't no hooker. I may be a slut, but I do that for free.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 30, 2011 10:11 PM MST up reply actions  

That should be our slogan.
Bright Side of the Sun – Sluts do it for free.

by waxmonkey on Jan 30, 2011 10:22 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I thought it was a given that sluts do it for free.

Isn’t that why they’re sluts and not hookers?

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 10:23 PM MST up reply actions  

That's what I thought...

But hey, maybe I’m not as well versed as I thought…

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by noonoo on Jan 30, 2011 11:14 PM MST up reply actions  

by that rationale

Hill is a slut and Carter is a hooker. He only does it for a lot of money and even then, not so good.

Dies Natalis Solis Invicti

by HelioSuntric on Feb 1, 2011 11:59 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

How dare you defile the BAMF's name.

That’s not cool.

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by NashMV3 on Feb 2, 2011 12:07 AM MST up reply actions  

Sometimes I'm glad when I don't have computer access and can just watch the games on TV.

I don’t miss nearly as much. The problem is BSotSers can be so frickin’ entertaining so I keep coming back.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

And go Shawn Watson and Barney Cotton! Seriously, leave Lincoln. Now.

Super Bowl here we come!

by Omaha Sun on Jan 31, 2011 9:37 PM MST up reply actions  

By all means

I’m not trying to take away from this game. And while I don’t like being the one to blame the refs and whatnot, there were quite a few questionable calls.

The only thing I dislike about today’s game (which isn’t much) is how we mentally let them back into the game at the end. They may have gotten lucky, but basketball is as mental a game as any.

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by Trevor Paxton on Jan 30, 2011 9:37 PM MST up reply actions  

You shouldn't blame the refs. It's your post, and I think it would be innapropriate for you to criticize the refs.

That’s my job. They didn’t cost us the game, but there were some horrible calls, including a no-call on a Hill goaltend. They weren’t biased, they were just awful.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 30, 2011 9:49 PM MST up reply actions  

They get worse and worse each year.

Like wtf… you’re supposed to improve with each coming year, not regress and get worse.

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 9:53 PM MST up reply actions  

At every level too,

from the NBA to college all the way down to grade school.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

And go Shawn Watson and Barney Cotton! Seriously, leave Lincoln. Now.

Super Bowl here we come!

by Omaha Sun on Jan 31, 2011 9:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Absolutely.

I meant, even in casual conversations with friends, I tend to shy away from the “f#%* the refs!” conversations. I just think that unless it’s truly a terrible call in a key moment (e.g. Utah/OKC game last season), it’s generally just uninformed fans looking for a scapegoat.

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by Trevor Paxton on Jan 30, 2011 9:54 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Well, fortunately, we don't need an 'Escape Goat' for this one.

But if Paul made that last three, I might have dug out my pitchfork and torch, and headed downtown.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 31, 2011 11:59 AM MST up reply actions  

Who would the torch have been used on?

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

And go Shawn Watson and Barney Cotton! Seriously, leave Lincoln. Now.

Super Bowl here we come!

by Omaha Sun on Jan 31, 2011 9:38 PM MST up reply actions  

That game seriously almost killed me.

Fortunately I’ll live to see the Bucks.

Chris Paul doesn’t look like CHRIS PAUL anymore. He’s still awesome…but just doesn’t look like his speed is all the way there anymore/yet.

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by Scott Howard on Jan 30, 2011 9:36 PM MST reply actions  

Plus he's more whiny now.

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 9:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Flops like a champ.

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by Scott Howard on Jan 30, 2011 9:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Robert Horry got 7 rings doing that.

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 9:40 PM MST up reply actions  

robert horry

woulda made that 3 pointer at the end though.

by Ceek on Jan 31, 2011 9:35 AM MST up reply actions  

yes

he looks completely rooted to the floor, which is not a good thing when you’re barely 6 feet tall. But he’s a really, really crafty guy. So smooth.

Could you imagine him and Brandon Roy is the same backcourt, with David West at PF? 3 guys who couldn’t clear a sheet of paper. Maybe throw Duds in the lineup too. All we need is a C with no lift at all…theres a million of those.

Yet that team would win 50 games a year.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 30, 2011 9:42 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

though, I was thinking about a much more skilled

individual at C who just happens to be completely rooted to the floor. Paul, Roy, West and Duds is a nice lineup.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 31, 2011 11:16 AM MST up reply actions  

I heard Al Jefferson was pretty bad…but also pretty good

Banzai!

by Suns' Sensei on Jan 31, 2011 12:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Can Okafor jump?

Joel Przybilla, Shaq, hell, Robin can’t even jump much now (although he’s getting better).

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

And go Shawn Watson and Barney Cotton! Seriously, leave Lincoln. Now.

Super Bowl here we come!

by Omaha Sun on Jan 31, 2011 9:40 PM MST up reply actions  

yeah, Przybilla

or Greg Foster in Indiana.

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by Alex Laugan on Feb 1, 2011 6:59 AM MST up reply actions  

Jeff Foster.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

And go Shawn Watson and Barney Cotton! Seriously, leave Lincoln. Now.

Super Bowl here we come!

by Omaha Sun on Feb 1, 2011 12:11 PM MST up reply actions  

played great defense in 2nd half

and gortat’s progression since he got here is amazing just wish mikel would play better and we would have something to build on defensively .the bench played well especially duds kept us above water in the 2nd quarter.now have to stay focused until all-star break get nash and hill some rest

by clinton p on Jan 30, 2011 9:49 PM MST reply actions  

So who wants to hop on the Zabian Dowdell bandwagon with me?

After reading that article Ray found and watching him play tonight, I’m pulling for this kid. Who’s with me?

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 9:50 PM MST reply actions   2 recs

what article?

Let Josh Childress play

by Bkj on Jan 30, 2011 9:51 PM MST up reply actions  

It's in the fanshots.

Interesting read about the life of a player on a 10-day contract. It really makes you feel for Dowdell and wish him nothing but the best.

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 9:51 PM MST up reply actions  

yep

but as the 3rd PG. Suns are better with Goran playing well.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 30, 2011 9:53 PM MST up reply actions  

i would love to

good kid just a little to much no-look passes instead of makin the easy play he makes it hard on him and makes turnovers.but if has the right mentality can get out of bad habits

by clinton p on Jan 30, 2011 9:57 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm pulling for him, too.

We could use a backup pg, and I really, really hope he makes it. I’m happy with the way he played, but he’ll need to do at least that well every game in order to stick – a couple more mistakes and he would have sucked. But I’ll chalk it up to a great first effort without much rehearsal, and pull for him as hard as I can. Dude, he turned down $750,000 in Europe to take an $88,000 D league job just for this kind of opportunity – how could you not pull for him?

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 30, 2011 9:58 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

The kid's got a dream.

And he refuses to give up on it. That’s very inspirational. Seriously.

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 10:00 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

Word.

"Don't worry, I'm intact.
Whatever I say, Polish Hammer will back."

by East Bay Ray on Jan 30, 2011 10:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Double word (score)

Dude is impossible not to root for. He’s now played in the NBA and nobody can ever take that away from him.

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RIP Seasons of Discontent

by Scott Howard on Jan 30, 2011 10:07 PM MST up reply actions  

They played last night and nearly beat us.

I can’t agree with you there, Bkj.

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 9:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Their bigs are undersized, and chris paul is not playing at the level that he did two seasons ago.

That said, the peja deal was pretty bad-this team was better with him on the team, but regardless, the pace that the play at is what I think has allowed them to win more games than they should have. I really dont know what it is that has allowed them to more or less establish a solid record, but they are certainly not as good as suggested by their record

Let Josh Childress play

by Bkj on Jan 30, 2011 9:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Okafor missed the 2nd half.

Hornets bigs look a lot better when he’s among them. He had 10 points and 7 rebounds before going out tonight.

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by East Bay Ray on Jan 30, 2011 9:58 PM MST up reply actions  

but even then,

the game was tied, wasn’t it? and Gortat had only 2 mins and 2 fouls. Okafor got 3 of his rebounds on his own misses, 6 total on the offensive end.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 30, 2011 10:00 PM MST up reply actions  

okafor was huge..

Loosing him turned the game. Not just the rebounding but it helped open up the middle.

With Okafor I think they probably win that game.

Not for sure. but it would have been much different.

by HarvMel on Jan 30, 2011 10:09 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't think so

that if Okafor had stayed in, the Hornets would have won. I don’t agree. Gortat had only played the 2 bad minutes before Okafor went out. Okafor played a lot of time with Frye as the C, so he looked better by comparison.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 30, 2011 10:13 PM MST up reply actions  

hard to know...

I agree that Okafor was doing it mostly against Lopez + Frye. So maybe Gortat controls that. But Okafor also helps on the defensive end…

And in the end we only won by 2.

On another note, you seem to really like disagreeing with me.

by HarvMel on Jan 30, 2011 10:27 PM MST up reply actions  

no personal offense intended. Just banter on a blog with differing opinions.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 31, 2011 9:30 AM MST up reply actions  

I do agree with this

that we don’t know how, but somehow they’re winning a lot of games. hell they almost won tonights.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 30, 2011 9:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Yup.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

And go Shawn Watson and Barney Cotton! Seriously, leave Lincoln. Now.

Super Bowl here we come!

by Omaha Sun on Jan 31, 2011 9:45 PM MST up reply actions  

You could say the same about us

and say we’re not as bad as our record indicates. But when you look back and reflect on it, our record does reflect how well we play and there were times when we played great and other times when we blew complete ass. That’s why our record is below .500.

You can’t take things away from teams, Bkj. They have their current record because they fought to win those games. I won’t say the Spurs are not as good as their record indicates or the Lakers are better than their record indicates. The Spurs only lost 7 games so far. That’s tough to achieve, considering they have no true “superstar” anymore.

The Hornets are good. You can’t deny that.

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by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 9:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Glad to get this win...

With Gortat playing like this we’re poised to make a good run if the other guys can follow suit. Our bench can play up to its potential we’re still deadly, all the hum-glum of our record aside.

Need to get everyone rallying around the fact that we’re better than we’re playing. It’s all mentality.

Looking across the scoreboard today, LAL, OKC, DEN, and possibly UTH adding one in the Loss column today. We’ve gotta stay focused. We can’t afford to let up, not with our record, not with our problems. Our team has got to get serious about winning and finishing games.

by TheAlexSkinner on Jan 30, 2011 9:50 PM MST reply actions  

It was definitely a wake up call...

When we were up by eight and started going away from the inside game that got us the lead to begin with, I told my son whom was watching the game with me that I had a bad feeling. When VC missed and then Nash missed from three, I was upset that we weren’t trying to finish by pounding it inside…We HAVE to start doing that!

Either way, I never expected the crazy turn of events that followed. I’m glad we held on though and somehow made it out with a W.

by 7footer on Jan 30, 2011 9:55 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Carter Sucks!!!

 we should bring him off the bench and start Jared

by phx suns on Jan 30, 2011 10:00 PM MST reply actions  

Ummm, seriously? Carter had a good game.

Last year's Phoenix Suns team was like the show "Deadwood." A great thing that ended way too early.

by TheRza82 on Jan 30, 2011 10:02 PM MST up reply actions  

He did?

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by Scott Howard on Jan 30, 2011 10:03 PM MST up reply actions  

It wasn't as good as I thought

But, this whole blame Vince Carter for everything is getting on my god damn nerves.

Last year's Phoenix Suns team was like the show "Deadwood." A great thing that ended way too early.

by TheRza82 on Jan 30, 2011 10:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Scott hasn't called for Vince Carter to be lit yet.

Can’t you take solace in that?

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 10:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Anyone that thinks Vince Carter is this team's only problem needs to get laughed at.

But he is probably my least favorite Phoenix Sun of all-time.

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RIP Seasons of Discontent

by Scott Howard on Jan 30, 2011 10:06 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't know how you can hate any Sun more than Marcus Banks.

Last year's Phoenix Suns team was like the show "Deadwood." A great thing that ended way too early.

by TheRza82 on Jan 30, 2011 10:08 PM MST up reply actions  

14 million reasons.

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by Scott Howard on Jan 30, 2011 10:09 PM MST up reply actions  

It's not like we signed him to a massive contract and he failed, we traded for him.

I’d rather have VC till the Deadline or till the end of this season then keep Richardson and have to give him a big contract extension.

Last year's Phoenix Suns team was like the show "Deadwood." A great thing that ended way too early.

by TheRza82 on Jan 30, 2011 10:11 PM MST up reply actions  

I get the business stuff.

He’s just my least favorite to watch.

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by Scott Howard on Jan 30, 2011 10:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Keeping JRich didn’t mean the Suns had to extend him.

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by Seth Pollack on Jan 31, 2011 7:48 AM MST up reply actions  

but if the Suns had kept JRich

they would not have Gortat.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 31, 2011 9:30 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Right

and while he’s been great, I am still not totally sold…but I was responding to this:

I’d rather have VC till the Deadline or till the end of this season then keep Richardson and have to give him a big contract extension.

Keeping JRich didn’t mean they HAD to give him an extension.

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by Seth Pollack on Jan 31, 2011 10:30 AM MST up reply actions  

true enough

about the JRich part.

But I think you’re really working hard not to be “sold” on Gortat. The dude has a lot of skills for 7 mil a year. A lot of skills.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 31, 2011 11:17 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

+1

Embrace the Hammer, Seth. Or else.

I smell like the vault. I'm so PAID.

by RMason on Jan 31, 2011 11:34 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Seth has a man-crush on RoLo

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by Eutychus on Jan 31, 2011 12:50 PM MST up reply actions  

we'll see

there were a lot of people who wanted to anoint Hakim as the Next Amare at one point this season….we’ll see. muwahaawaaahaa

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by Seth Pollack on Jan 31, 2011 1:20 PM MST up reply actions  

totally different things

but I see where you’re coming from.

still, Hakim never blew Amare’s career numbers out of the water for a 2-week period before.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 31, 2011 1:22 PM MST up reply actions  

It's OK to get more excited about Gortat, Seth.

You can still hate VC and the trade, and miss Hedo and J-Rich.

"Don't worry, I'm intact.
Whatever I say, Polish Hammer will back."

by East Bay Ray on Jan 31, 2011 1:23 PM MST up reply actions  

there are serious holes in his game that will be exposed over time…just you wait. HA HA HA!!!

No seriously, he’s playing well but there’s a lot of variables here not the least of which was playing against David Anderson in the 2nd half and a broke down Shaq and Perkins on Friday.

I want to see him dominate against Bogut on Wednesday. Or not even dominate but at least not get dominated. k?

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by Seth Pollack on Jan 31, 2011 1:26 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Basically then...Gortat was correct when he Tweeted this.

Im putting myself in shity… Spot:) one day i will play bad and u guys will kill me!!!!

about 16 hours ago via Echofon

"Don't worry, I'm intact.
Whatever I say, Polish Hammer will back."

by East Bay Ray on Jan 31, 2011 2:40 PM MST up reply actions  

haha!

I must have missed that one – that’s great

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by Eutychus on Jan 31, 2011 2:51 PM MST up reply actions  

For the record -

I never said that Hakim was the next Amare – you can refer to my examination post on him before the season started, I said he was more of a replacement for Lou’s minutes. Just throwing that out there and clear my name since you responded with that to me…

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by Eutychus on Jan 31, 2011 1:41 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

whew!

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
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by Eutychus on Jan 31, 2011 3:41 PM MST up reply actions  

I never said he was the next Amare either

I only said that he provides what $4 mill should give you as a backup PF, though he does finish on the pnr.

Were you referring to me?

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 31, 2011 4:03 PM MST up reply actions  

nope

not you…just the general Warrick up roar round about mid-November

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by Seth Pollack on Jan 31, 2011 4:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Gortat is doing amazing so far, but Rolo still has more size and potential, and he is starting to do extremely well in his limited minutes. I believe the team is better with him playing at his best than with Gortat at his best. We are not far from a full-fledged controversy here. I really don’t know how it’s going to shake down with these 2. One will probably have to be traded at some point.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jan 31, 2011 5:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh, I don't think so.

The last thing that the Suns need to do is trade away size with talent. This team will eventually develop the second team concept that we had last year, and the guy on the second team is just as important, if not more important, than the starter. We need them both, and it was a great trade to get them. We gave up a lot, and we don’t need to trade it away.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 31, 2011 5:14 PM MST up reply actions  

^A great trade to get Gortat, I mean.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 31, 2011 5:15 PM MST up reply actions  

oh god yes

how long have we been waiting for a solid Center position on the team? 40 years???

and now we’re talking about trading??

by Fritzy on Jan 31, 2011 6:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah it would...

One season Amare goes, the next J Rich goes? Nash would start judo chopping the shit out of the front office.

Last year's Phoenix Suns team was like the show "Deadwood." A great thing that ended way too early.

by TheRza82 on Jan 31, 2011 5:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Darn, I forgot about Banks...

But my dislike for him did not start till he left!

There's something you better understand about me, 'cause it's important and one day your life may depend on it. I am definitely a madman with a box!

by Aztiramtempe on Jan 30, 2011 10:12 PM MST up reply actions  

marcus banks set a summer-league record!

and didn’t seem like he didn’t give a crap

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Jan 31, 2011 12:42 AM MST up reply actions  

?

Carter scores 20,000 NBA points vs. Bank scoring 42 summer league points, and that’s a plus for Banks?

I get that Carter may be more disliked than Banks, and I don’t disagree, but using scoring stats to make the point is not exactly valid

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 31, 2011 7:26 AM MST up reply actions  

I was trying to be funny :(

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Jan 31, 2011 10:19 AM MST up reply actions  

funny fail...

no worries, happens all the time

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by 2NASHTY on Jan 31, 2011 11:02 AM MST up reply actions  

ok good

sorry. when I saw how ridiculous the comparison was, I should have known.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 31, 2011 11:18 AM MST up reply actions  

Wow. When shaq & Marbury & Joe Johnson

R available ?

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by Aztiramtempe on Jan 30, 2011 10:11 PM MST up reply actions  

I said MIGHT.

Mario Elie is up there because he’d already blown the kiss of death when he arrived. Horry was pretty solid too with the towel throwing incident (though you can’t count all the other BS he pulled because he was gone from PHX by then).

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by Scott Howard on Jan 30, 2011 10:12 PM MST up reply actions  

4 thoughts

1) wanted to post this after Seth’s post last game where he said not to get too excited after the celtics game.
it got eaten by the computer, so I just left it.

The thing is, that if Gortat and Lopez are going to be this effective, this is a whole different ball of wax we’re looking at. This team goes from a .500 team to a really tough out against anyone.

2) We got really lucky that Okafor got injured. With West and Okafor, we couldn’t control the defensive glass. With Okafor out, it was much better and once Gortat came in as well…game over (except for the horrendous last minute.) Robin was good tonight but he still struggles defensively as he was part of a number of bad rotations in the 3rd quarter.

3) we executed fine late in the game today and just missed shots, but…………..
we need to design something else besides jacking up a 3. we need to have something going to the hoop, or some post ups, mixed in as well, to get to the f’ing FT line once in a while. Part of it may be Grant’s injury as he is kind of our designated slasher post up guy, but we can also post Frye and gulp, Carter (and maybe even Frye?) once in a while.

4) in a lot of ways, getting lucky is more important that being good..so lets celebrate that last minute.

by HarvMel on Jan 30, 2011 10:06 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Completely agree

Especially #1. If our bigs can continue to consistently produce then our PF woes become that much less of a burden. Clearly Gortat is learning how to handle the Nash P&R and gaining confidence. He starts throwing it down and Lopez can return to form by end of this season there may be hope yet.

by TheAlexSkinner on Jan 30, 2011 10:10 PM MST up reply actions  

sorry..

i actually meant once in a while late in the game posting up, Rolo. Maybe we don’t want throw him right into the fire, but would like to see him get a few mins in the 4th, when our offence seems to really struggle.

by HarvMel on Jan 30, 2011 10:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah.

If we can effectively dump it inside and he finishes strong there’s no reason why he can’t be productive in the closing minutes.

It’s just the finishing strong and being productive in the closing minutes that we need to work out.

by TheAlexSkinner on Jan 30, 2011 10:18 PM MST up reply actions  

I pooped a little in my pants...

But my god, what a game!! This is the second game in a row where I didn’t get on the game thread and I fell asleep briefly in the fourth quarter. I think I’ll continue this trend till we lose.

Gortat is seriously amazing, the dude is seriously already a top-6 Western Center.

In no particular order:
Camby
Nene
Okafor
M. Gasol
Gortat
Jefferson

You could argue Bynum, but until the dude can actually stay healthy for an extended period of a time you can’t count him.

Last year's Phoenix Suns team was like the show "Deadwood." A great thing that ended way too early.

by TheRza82 on Jan 30, 2011 10:08 PM MST reply actions  

Warrick seriously needs to learn how to be patient and hit the jump shot...

YOU’RE NOT GOING TO DUNK THE BALL FROM 10 FEET AWAY WITH 3 DEFENDERS IN FRONT OF YOU.

Also, can someone give me a good explanation on why Warrick can’t block any shots? I realize he is undersized, but he’s got SERIOUS hops how is it that he is just a horrible shot blocker?

Last year's Phoenix Suns team was like the show "Deadwood." A great thing that ended way too early.

by TheRza82 on Jan 30, 2011 10:14 PM MST reply actions  

Warrick is still a disappointment

but with the play of Gortat, Frye and to a lesser extent Robin, it is less of an issue. Maybe now that we don’t need him as much, he can settle down a bit and actually deliver a bit more of what he is capable of.

by HarvMel on Jan 30, 2011 10:17 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm seriously starting to hate him...LIke, he can't do anything else but dunk.

He doesn’t try to defend or rebound. I mean, I remember when we signed him and we did a in-depth analysis of him and he was supposed to have a decent jumper…He doesn’t seem interested in shooting the jumper at all.

Warrick is more effective playing 15+ minutes a game but we just can’t play him that amount of time….This is why we need Lou….Lou could play 5 minutes, or 20 minutes but he’s still as effective no matter how much time you play him. We also would’ve saved a lot of money signing Lou.

Last year's Phoenix Suns team was like the show "Deadwood." A great thing that ended way too early.

by TheRza82 on Jan 30, 2011 10:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, I just watch Lou clank 2 free throws off the front of the rim, and get a shot blocked.

Warrick had 3 boards in 10 min, he had 5 on Friday, and he’s been defending pretty well.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 30, 2011 10:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Rza hates Warrick as much as Scott dislikes Carter.

There’s no winning that battle.

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 10:26 PM MST up reply actions  

I hate them both for YEARS!!!

I let you imagine the two times punch I take with those trade..
I even have problems enjoying our wins right night.. Look like I’m not the only one..

Go Suns!! Suns For Life!! (miss you Raja)

by Reelsht on Jan 31, 2011 8:44 AM MST up reply actions  

this whole blame Vince Carter Hakim Warrick for everything is getting on my nerves.

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Jan 31, 2011 12:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Do as I do

Blame the 2 of them

Go Suns!! Suns For Life!! (miss you Raja)

by Reelsht on Jan 31, 2011 1:06 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm just messin' with Rza

he gets all defensive about those who bash VC then turns around and bashes Warrick unabashedly

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Jan 31, 2011 1:08 PM MST up reply actions  

:-))

.

Go Suns!! Suns For Life!! (miss you Raja)

by Reelsht on Jan 31, 2011 1:24 PM MST up reply actions  

That's how i roll

I could have made in an alliteration and said “brazenly bashes Warrick unabashedly” but i didn’t want to show off too much

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Jan 31, 2011 1:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Hakim Warrick needed bashing after the performance he put up..

SHOT THE JUMP SHOT.

Last year's Phoenix Suns team was like the show "Deadwood." A great thing that ended way too early.

by TheRza82 on Jan 31, 2011 5:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Please don't.

At least not more than one a game. If he makes it, he can take another. If he decides to shoot while laying on his back, dunk the ball or take a seat.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

And go Shawn Watson and Barney Cotton! Seriously, leave Lincoln. Now.

Super Bowl here we come!

by Omaha Sun on Jan 31, 2011 10:12 PM MST up reply actions  

He had 33 and 6 tonite.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 30, 2011 10:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Haha, Amare is starting to slack it up on the boards in New York

Just like I knew he would, in the month of January (15 games) he’s only gotten double digit rebounds 4 times. In his last four games he’s pulled down 9, 8, 3, and 6.

Amare could be a 12 RPG guy if he wanted too, I just don’t think he cares.

Last year's Phoenix Suns team was like the show "Deadwood." A great thing that ended way too early.

by TheRza82 on Jan 30, 2011 10:23 PM MST up reply actions  

yea

that guy needs to find something to motivate him, can you imagine a jordan-like mentality in amare stoudemire’s body? holy crap!

by Ceek on Jan 31, 2011 9:51 AM MST up reply actions  

Just read the Postgame Quotes

Gentry said one of our short-term goals is to be at or above .500 at all-star.

We’ve got 8 games between now and then and only TWO are away:
MIL
OKC
@GSW
GSW
@UTH
SAC
UTH
DAL

Not going to lie those aren’t cupcake teams. If our guys start to take themselves seriously and really get down to business we can get 5-6 of those and be up 3-4 games .500.

by TheAlexSkinner on Jan 30, 2011 10:16 PM MST reply actions  

They'd have to go 6-2 to make it

which I kinda doubt, with baically two home and homes against GS and the Jazz.

Trade Warrick!!!

by jc79 on Jan 30, 2011 10:20 PM MST up reply actions  

5-3.

Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent

by Scott Howard on Jan 30, 2011 10:21 PM MST up reply actions  

We're 22-24.

The point of the post was to just aim for .500.

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 10:24 PM MST up reply actions  

6-2 only means 2 over 500.

But that would be a good start.

I actually think we need to win 7 to really get into contention. Utah is really taking it to the crapper. but they are still 5 up on us. If we could somehow get both of those against them, that really improves our chances.

Remember, just passing Utah or Portland may not be enough as there is still Memphis and Houston to stay ahead of.

we need to win a lot of games. but if we can do that, we can get 7th.

by HarvMel on Jan 30, 2011 10:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Forgot to throw those losses in the column...

I really like it when we don’t lose.

I’m not buying Portland’s game and I think we could get as high as 6, but we’d have to really be playing inspired ball.

by TheAlexSkinner on Jan 30, 2011 10:24 PM MST up reply actions  

hard to see 6th...

we are so far behind so many teams. you can already pencil in LA and the Spurs, but there is a huge gap to Denver, NO, Dallas and OKC. We’d have to go like 28-8 or maybe better. Hard to see that with some of the inconsistency we have going on.

But actually looking again. Denver and NO are only .5 up on Utah..We will still need to win A LOT OF GAMES.

Anyway, mostly I am just happy to see this team now being interesting to watch…again.

by HarvMel on Jan 30, 2011 10:35 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

It's impossible to tell how we will deal with this schedule....

I mean, conservatively I’d say we go 4-4 but the sky is now the limit with how well Gortat is playing. I wouldn’t be surprised if we went 3-5 or if we went 6-2. Dallas is a different team ever since losing Butler. Utah is ALWAYS tough but if the three is falling it will be hard for them to keep up with us since outside of Bell and Williams they literally don’t have a 3 point threat. OKC is always tough but for some reason it always seems like we play them really well.

Last year's Phoenix Suns team was like the show "Deadwood." A great thing that ended way too early.

by TheRza82 on Jan 30, 2011 10:27 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm retiring from trying to figure out what this team is going to do in any individual game.

Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent

by Scott Howard on Jan 30, 2011 10:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Good move. I think I'll join you.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 30, 2011 10:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Save a seat for me.

"Don't worry, I'm intact.
Whatever I say, Polish Hammer will back."

by East Bay Ray on Jan 30, 2011 10:30 PM MST up reply actions  

I'll tag along too.

I don’t have enough beer for everyone though.

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 10:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Store's still open.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 30, 2011 10:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Belly Laugh. Recc'ed.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 30, 2011 10:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Best line since my description of the game threads.

Lol.

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 10:33 PM MST up reply actions  

So yeah this is my new sig...

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride."
"I know...The Suns are like a drunk bi-sexual girl. You just have no idea what she is going to do."

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 10:38 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Recc'ed - and Flagged for self pimping.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 30, 2011 10:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Self-pimping

it’s gonna be a thing.

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3
"I know...The Suns are like a drunk bi-sexual girl. You just have no idea what she is going to do." - TheRza82

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 10:40 PM MST up reply actions  

There, I now give proper credit to the wise asses who typed those words.

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3
"I know...The Suns are like a drunk bi-sexual girl. You just have no idea what she is going to do." - TheRza82

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 10:41 PM MST up reply actions  

They are both great quotes, btw.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 30, 2011 10:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, I like them too.

Yours are far more insightful. Mine are just plain funny.

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3
"I know...The Suns are like a drunk bi-sexual girl. You just have no idea what she is going to do." - TheRza82

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 10:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Seriously, why isn't this green yet?

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3
"I know...The Suns are like a drunk bi-sexual girl. You just have no idea what she is going to do." - TheRza82

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 11:48 PM MST up reply actions  

I think January 28th should become a holiday in Phoenix.

Suns Turnaround Day.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 30, 2011 10:28 PM MST reply actions  

Sun Rise Day sounds better.

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 10:29 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes it does.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 30, 2011 10:30 PM MST up reply actions  

We turned a losing streak into a winning streak against the two hottest teams in the NBA.

That qualifies for a turnaround. It may not be THE turnaround, but it is a turnaround.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 30, 2011 10:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Lawyered.

They said I had A.D.—something. Can we have class outside?!

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 10:35 PM MST up reply actions  

I rest my case.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 30, 2011 10:37 PM MST up reply actions  

I knew you were a How I Met Your Mother fan...

There’s no way anyone would just randomly have that quote as their sig…

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by Trevor Paxton on Jan 31, 2011 12:14 AM MST up reply actions  

I love that show.

And Katy Perry’s cleavage will be in the next episode.

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3
"I know...The Suns are like a drunk bi-sexual girl. You just have no idea what she is going to do." - TheRza82

by NashMV3 on Jan 31, 2011 8:21 AM MST up reply actions  

They do a pretty good job of getting hot guest actresses.

Banzai!

by Suns' Sensei on Jan 31, 2011 12:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Plus I thought that quote had a perfect description of me.

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3
"I know...The Suns are like a drunk bi-sexual girl. You just have no idea what she is going to do." - TheRza82

by NashMV3 on Jan 31, 2011 8:23 AM MST up reply actions  

Are you quoting yourself in your sig?

"Are you quoting yourself in your sig?" - waxmonkey

by waxmonkey on Jan 31, 2011 3:36 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

What gives you that idea?

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3
"I know...The Suns are like a drunk bi-sexual girl. You just have no idea what she is going to do." - TheRza82

by NashMV3 on Jan 31, 2011 6:48 PM MST up reply actions  

I tried quoting myself in my sig

I still sounded stupid

"It's nice to feel good at 32. I don't feel old. I don't feel like this is getting harder. I feel like this is getting easier, if anything." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Jan 31, 2011 9:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Ah, yes.

I remember that. Good times.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

And go Shawn Watson and Barney Cotton! Seriously, leave Lincoln. Now.

Super Bowl here we come!

by Omaha Sun on Jan 31, 2011 10:16 PM MST up reply actions  

well..

sorry to be a little negative, but we were at home, and both teams we beat were on the 2nd night of a b2b.

Not to mention Emeka being absent the 2nd half, allowing Gortat to go off.

But a wins a win.

by iceythril on Jan 30, 2011 11:56 PM MST up reply actions  

true..

but aside from the last 17 secs..these were 2 pretty convincing wins against top 5 teams..

by HarvMel on Jan 31, 2011 12:17 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

We don't accept those excuses for ourselves, why should we make them for another team?

They are wins – they count, just like every other game that someone misses because of injury, or plays back to back, or in the cold, or at 10:30 in the morning on a holiday, or whatever. And they weren’t fluke wins – although tonight was almost a fluke loss. I’d rather lose concentration for 17 seconds than a whole quarter, like before. I don’t think we’ll make the same mistake again, either – lesson learned, and nothing lost.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 31, 2011 1:06 AM MST up reply actions   3 recs

true

The Suns had to fight for these victories anyway, it’s not like they were handed to us.

by iceythril on Jan 31, 2011 8:17 AM MST up reply actions  

Before Galileo, every day was suns turnaround day

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by Will Slaven on Jan 30, 2011 10:53 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

does anyone else think

gortat could end up being a borderline all start type of a player? i know its not super likely and hes only been playing well for a few games, but hes still pretty young and if these kind of performances become a regular thing i could see it

by suns13 on Jan 30, 2011 10:37 PM MST reply actions  

If he keeps doing this, he might be a candidate for most improved player, as well as a borderline all-star.

Maybe even 6th man of the year – who knows?

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 30, 2011 10:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Who the hell is the biggest MIP candidate now?

It’s D-Rose, isn’t it?

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3
"I know...The Suns are like a drunk bi-sexual girl. You just have no idea what she is going to do." - TheRza82

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 10:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Well whatever.

Point is, the Suns are too far under anyone’s radar to notice any of our players improving. Kevin Love made a name for himself after the 30-30 game, and that’s why he got recognition. It’s gonna be tough for Gortat to win any of those awards. But I could hardly give a shit.

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3
"I know...The Suns are like a drunk bi-sexual girl. You just have no idea what she is going to do." - TheRza82

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 10:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Maybe not this year, but maybe next.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 30, 2011 10:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Derrick Rose as MIP?

You mean MVP? Dude has been a BAller ever since he was drafted 3 years ago… hope you were joking? :)

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
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by Eutychus on Jan 31, 2011 1:00 PM MST up reply actions  

No reason why he can't be both, eh?

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3
"I know...The Suns are like a drunk bi-sexual girl. You just have no idea what she is going to do." - TheRza82

by NashMV3 on Jan 31, 2011 3:33 PM MST up reply actions  

haha I guess...

but he averaged something like 24 points a game last year… and now he’s average like 26. I mean I know it’s an improvement, but when I think of MIP I look for a guy that was off the radar to burst on to the radar. DRose has always been on the radar.

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
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by Eutychus on Jan 31, 2011 3:42 PM MST up reply actions  

I think he was like 22 and 6 last year.

Now he’s up to 25 and 8. He is a legit candidate for both. Russell Westbrook is up there as well.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

And go Shawn Watson and Barney Cotton! Seriously, leave Lincoln. Now.

Super Bowl here we come!

by Omaha Sun on Jan 31, 2011 10:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Well Kevin Love is a solid choice.

30-30 is no easy feat. It’s difficult for big men to grab just 10 rebounds on a nightly basis. For him to grab 30 in 1 and still grab 13-15 per game is fucking incredible. Plus, he’s a great post player and has a solid outside shot. That’s why he’s one of the main guys we rosterbate to.

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3
"I know...The Suns are like a drunk bi-sexual girl. You just have no idea what she is going to do." - TheRza82

by NashMV3 on Feb 1, 2011 11:52 PM MST up reply actions  

He's not a great post player.

He is posting monster numbers, but he is also playing more. The reason Rose and Westbrook are up there is because they are putting up better numbers in roughly the same amount of playing time. Love is right there though.

It’s kind of cool. Usually MIP is won by guys who go from scrubs/journeyman to 3rd-tier stars. The top candidates this year are all guys that are on their way to becoming top-tier players.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

And go Shawn Watson and Barney Cotton! Seriously, leave Lincoln. Now.

Super Bowl here we come!

by Omaha Sun on Feb 2, 2011 12:11 AM MST up reply actions  

I think its already too late for either..

But wow, has he had an amazing run here, and really there isn’t that much reason to expect it to just completely end…he is hitting some outside shots but mostly its at the rim.

And Robin is getting better too. Unbelievably, our challenges may be more at the 2 after all of this, and Hollinger dubbing us, shooting guard/small forwards anonymous

by HarvMel on Jan 30, 2011 10:44 PM MST up reply actions  

That's why we draft Fredette and pick up SG in VC's wake

IMO

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Jan 31, 2011 1:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Pass.

Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent

by Scott Howard on Jan 31, 2011 1:10 PM MST up reply actions  

haters

but you’d take Steph Curry right?

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
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by Eutychus on Jan 31, 2011 1:45 PM MST up reply actions  

I never saw Steph Curry get rendered useless in the NCAA tournament.

Jacob Pullen effectively pulled Jimmer’s pants down in the tourney last year. Maybe he’s grown. I’ll be curious to see what he does against big school defenders in the tournament this year.

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RIP Seasons of Discontent

by Scott Howard on Jan 31, 2011 1:48 PM MST up reply actions  

I know you're a big KState fan Scott

but Fredette rendered useless in the tournament?
1) he entered the tourney recovering from a bad bout with mono
2) he scored 37 points against Florida in the first round = useless? He’s the reason they (BYU) made it to the second round of the NCAA tourney for the first time since 1993…
3) he still scored 21 points against your boys at KState even though he was not 100% healthy and bludgeoned time and time again… and your boy Pullen had the best offensive night of his career with 34. Pretty miraculous and inspirational game by KState – I remember watching it. Has he had any 30+ games since then? No… meanwhile Fredette has 8 this year alone and 3 40+ games (47,43,42)
4)Steph Curry’s Davidson team as a Freshman (similar to BYU = 1 star – no real support) got bounced in the first round of the NCAA tourney – Steph dropped 30 but fouled out in that loss. His Sophmore run was a good one where they made it to the elite eight and he played off the chain… but his final year before declaring – they didn’t even make the tourney.

I’m not trying to make myself out to be a Fredette fanboy and his unrelenting defender – but if you’ve watched the kid all year like I have you’d have to be completely basketball illiterate to say the kid wasn’t a legit scorer. He can shoot – he can drive – he can create – and he can cross you over better than Steph Curry.

he’s projected currently to go anywhere from late lottery to mid 20’s… we’ve got 2 first round picks probably right in that wheel house. If a scoring guard is what we need I don’t know why you would pass on the kid who’s currently leading college basketball.

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Jan 31, 2011 2:28 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

We do need a scoring guard

but we also need a real starting quality 4, preferably with decent range (not 3pt territory, but lamarcus aldridge territory), these two should be our biggest offseason priorities.

by DaveJD on Jan 31, 2011 2:31 PM MST up reply actions  

This is true

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Jan 31, 2011 2:35 PM MST up reply actions  

He was great against Florida. Meant to say rendered useless in an individual game

But he shot like crap against K-State (5/13) and turned the ball over 5 times. Including getting ripped repeatedly on that cross move.

Jake was actually banged up in that game too. He fell on his shoulder in the first round and reinjured it in the first half against the Cougs. Don’t think there was much miraculous or inspirational about the win for K-State…we were just more athletic and better at basketball.

Obviously you’re as BYU biased as I am K-State. Love you anyway.

Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent

by Scott Howard on Jan 31, 2011 2:39 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

haha yeah

I thought it was miraculous because they were down by a bunch early – then came stormin’ back and Pullen just went nuts. They never looked back. They were a good team whereas BYU had a good player who didn’t play at his best.

But why would you pass on a pure scorer late in the 1st round if that’s what your team needs – a clutch time shooter/ go to guy ? I mean we can go for more PF’s… we did just draft 2 last year.

love you too

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
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by Eutychus on Jan 31, 2011 2:50 PM MST up reply actions  

I actually like Jimmer

That’s the annoying part about arguing against him….same with the Nash crap I’ve got going.

I love shooters and at the end of the first round he’s seemingly a low risk, known quantity type of guy – sometimes I like that a lot better than the high risk/high reward guys like Earl Clark.

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RIP Seasons of Discontent

by Scott Howard on Jan 31, 2011 3:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Alright Alex - so what's your reason to pass?

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by Eutychus on Jan 31, 2011 3:14 PM MST up reply actions  

I take the fifth. I don’t know much about Jimmer. He seems from afar like a poor man’s version of Reddick. And Reddick is not an NBA starter.

So, if that comparison is ludicrous then completely ignore my opinion because its baseless. I’m fine with that.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 31, 2011 4:08 PM MST up reply actions  

I'll write up a quick fanpost tonight

Maybe it’ll spark some interest – maybe not

stay tuned

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by Eutychus on Jan 31, 2011 4:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Make sure to include the games where he struggled as well,

like against Creighton and my boy Antoine Young. He had the worst game of his season, if not his career. Toine and Josh Jones held him to 13 points on 5-15 shooting and 4 TOs to go with 3 ast. Here’s an article describing the games where Jimmer struggled and highlighting the defensive strategies.

Honestly, I was looking forward to seeing Jimmer in person but was disappointed. I didn’t really get to see what he could do. Toine is just too awesome.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

And go Shawn Watson and Barney Cotton! Seriously, leave Lincoln. Now.

Super Bowl here we come!

by Omaha Sun on Jan 31, 2011 10:37 PM MST up reply actions  

HAHA

really? Is there anyone else who’s college team reduced his output to under 20 or 30 points that would like me to give them a shout-out?

I mean, Steph Curry never scored under 20 points in a game or had a bad shooting night right? He couldn’t possibly have had a game where he didn’t score any points did he? Oh wait – he certainly did, and it was because like Fredette they are expected to backpack their team everynight so it’s pretty easy for teams to game-plan against them… Load down on the star and pray he has an off night. And guess what. Even superstars have off nights.

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by Eutychus on Feb 1, 2011 12:06 AM MST up reply actions  

Just had to give my guys their credit ;-)

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

And go Shawn Watson and Barney Cotton! Seriously, leave Lincoln. Now.

Super Bowl here we come!

by Omaha Sun on Feb 1, 2011 12:30 AM MST up reply actions  

I still laugh at that team that triple-teamed Steph Curry all game.

They wanted to shut him down, and they did. Too bad it didn’t help them win at all.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

And go Shawn Watson and Barney Cotton! Seriously, leave Lincoln. Now.

Super Bowl here we come!

by Omaha Sun on Feb 1, 2011 12:31 AM MST up reply actions  

The question was posed in the game thread (and I don't know if it got answered or not..)

about which game Scott Williams was commenting where it sounded like he was on something.
It was driving me nuts and I wanted to remember what day it was so I did some digging through my daily journal entries and found that on November 12th, during a home game against the Sacramento Kings, I wrote “Scott Williams sounded like he was on something announcing the game tonight.”

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Jan 30, 2011 10:39 PM MST reply actions  

you keep a daily journal

on the Suns, outside of BSotS?

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 31, 2011 7:32 AM MST up reply actions  

I just keep a daily journal in general. All the "unimportant" things that happened in my day.

But it’s so cool to go back and read sometimes. When Im older, I can go back and just remember little things that made me happy or sad.
And since the Suns and the NBA are such an important part of my life, they yes, find their way into most of my entries. Goran stepping on glass, Scott Williams saying something crazy, Channing Frye throwing up a stupid shot at the buzzer, Lebron James doing something really irritating.. It seems weird, I know, but I really enjoy it. And it’s a great way to get things off my chest at the end of my day.

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Jan 31, 2011 7:08 PM MST up reply actions  

real statistic:

Marcin Gortat says “100%” in an interview 100% of the time. Gotta love consistency.

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by Will Slaven on Jan 30, 2011 10:42 PM MST reply actions  

and the dunking

"It's nice to feel good at 32. I don't feel old. I don't feel like this is getting harder. I feel like this is getting easier, if anything." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Jan 30, 2011 10:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Ahh, yes. The delicious dunking.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 30, 2011 10:44 PM MST up reply actions  

the blocking and rebounding

was like bacon covered lobster

"It's nice to feel good at 32. I don't feel old. I don't feel like this is getting harder. I feel like this is getting easier, if anything." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Jan 30, 2011 10:46 PM MST up reply actions  

You are a true Hedonist, Nashty.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 30, 2011 10:47 PM MST up reply actions  

You made me hungry again...

WTF 2NASHTY…. I’m trying to lose weight here…

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3
"I know...The Suns are like a drunk bi-sexual girl. You just have no idea what she is going to do." - TheRza82

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 10:48 PM MST up reply actions  

me to

and failing

"It's nice to feel good at 32. I don't feel old. I don't feel like this is getting harder. I feel like this is getting easier, if anything." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Jan 30, 2011 10:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh fuck it.

I’m going to indulge myself with the Grant Hill pass to Gortat for the GTFO dunk. It’s like fucking cheesecake. OM NOM NOM.

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3
"I know...The Suns are like a drunk bi-sexual girl. You just have no idea what she is going to do." - TheRza82

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 10:51 PM MST up reply actions  

100% fact

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by Seth Pollack on Jan 31, 2011 7:56 AM MST up reply actions  

Well I didn't get to see this game. Or even follow the end of it.

But it sounds like it was crazy. Im glad to see we won and that Zabian was able to hold down the fort.
Gortat is a MAN.

I don’t really have anything else to say because I don’t know what really happened in this one.

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Jan 30, 2011 10:43 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Watch the highlights. Goran was in a suit - he looked verry dapper. I don't know if that's in the highlights, though.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 30, 2011 10:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Well I have it recorded. I'll go through and look for him.

I bet he was looking good.

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Jan 30, 2011 10:45 PM MST up reply actions  

It's there. They mention Goran sitting out.

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3
"I know...The Suns are like a drunk bi-sexual girl. You just have no idea what she is going to do." - TheRza82

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 10:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Alrighty then. I shall watch it right now.

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Jan 30, 2011 10:46 PM MST up reply actions  

QUITE Dapper indeed!

He knows how to wear a suit…

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Jan 30, 2011 10:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Now if he only knew how to take a pee at night without injuring himself...

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 30, 2011 10:50 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

Yes, this.

Goran is much more talented than I, but I have the “go pee without injuring myself” move down.

"Don't worry, I'm intact.
Whatever I say, Polish Hammer will back."

by East Bay Ray on Jan 30, 2011 10:51 PM MST up reply actions  

At least Goran didn't fall headfirst into the toilet.

That’d be embarrassing.

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3
"I know...The Suns are like a drunk bi-sexual girl. You just have no idea what she is going to do." - TheRza82

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 10:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Poor Goran. :(

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Jan 30, 2011 10:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Garsh, we missed that in the thread late in the game.

Not very many “MAN” moments tonight, but most of them were all from Gortat.

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3
"I know...The Suns are like a drunk bi-sexual girl. You just have no idea what she is going to do." - TheRza82

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 10:46 PM MST up reply actions  

and

B….A…..M….F feeding hammer time for a get the fuck outa my way moment.

"It's nice to feel good at 32. I don't feel old. I don't feel like this is getting harder. I feel like this is getting easier, if anything." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Jan 30, 2011 10:48 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

You're quite the poet.

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3
"I know...The Suns are like a drunk bi-sexual girl. You just have no idea what she is going to do." - TheRza82

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 10:50 PM MST up reply actions  

He's a lyrical gangster.

"Don't worry, I'm intact.
Whatever I say, Polish Hammer will back."

by East Bay Ray on Jan 30, 2011 10:50 PM MST up reply actions  

He spits words like they fi-yah.

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3
"I know...The Suns are like a drunk bi-sexual girl. You just have no idea what she is going to do." - TheRza82

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 10:52 PM MST up reply actions  

and I didn't know it

"It's nice to feel good at 32. I don't feel old. I don't feel like this is getting harder. I feel like this is getting easier, if anything." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Jan 30, 2011 10:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Not this again....

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3
"I know...The Suns are like a drunk bi-sexual girl. You just have no idea what she is going to do." - TheRza82

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2011 10:52 PM MST up reply actions  

The ending was more frustrating than it should have been

But the wins are making me happy again, and I’m digging Grotat.

Just please stop trying to give me heart attacks.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

by JoeCB1991 on Jan 31, 2011 12:04 AM MST reply actions  

Should be savoring a good victory rather than cleaning our underwear

Almost an epic collapse. The Suns could not have played worse basketball in the last 30 seconds if they had tried. How does this crap happen over and over and over again?

I honestly don’t get it. Nash had enough rest. If Hill is injured, why play him? Why pull Gortat in favor of Fyre in the last 30 seconds? I know he was tired, but it’s 30 friggin seconds. 2 offensive rebounds in the this time period.

Our vets (nash, Carter, Hill) looked like the basketball version of the keystone cops.

It’s a win, but should be savoring it rather than having dodged a bullet

by sunsbballfreak1 on Jan 31, 2011 12:46 AM MST reply actions  

From Coro's article

“We usually beat Phoenix every time,” said(Chris) Paul, who is 7-8 vs. the Suns. “You can’t give up layups and threes. You have to choose and we gave up a little bit of both.”

first, I guess they aint much fer statistics down there in the big easy, eh CP?

2nd, props to Coro for sneakily pointing that out in the same sentence as his quote..

by Fritzy on Jan 31, 2011 1:04 AM MST reply actions   2 recs

yes

that was a great quote/insert by Coro.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 31, 2011 7:35 AM MST up reply actions  

Really starting to dislike Chris Paul...

seriously…

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Jan 31, 2011 7:38 AM MST up reply actions  

this

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Jan 31, 2011 1:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Lol Coro is such a sneaky little beaver.

But absolutely correct.

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3
"I know...The Suns are like a drunk bi-sexual girl. You just have no idea what she is going to do." - TheRza82

by NashMV3 on Jan 31, 2011 8:26 AM MST up reply actions  

close wins have it's advantages...

1. we have a lot of ‘practice’ for playoff game situations. (IF we make it to the playoffs, which we will if Gortat keeps playing like this).
2. leaves opponents reeling after a tough loss (any close loss is a tough loss), and the mental aspect of this comes to play.
3. coach gets to see who shows up in intense situations.
4. players get more experience playing together.

 a win is a win, ill take it!

by quixilver on Jan 31, 2011 1:44 AM MST reply actions  

Here's a thought

Given all the nice developments, how about to top it all off, J-Chill agrees to work his ass off in the off season with a shooting coach, totally re-vamps his shot, and comes back next season as a true NBA threat!

Love the direction this team is headed right now. The only thing truly missing is that killer killer instinct. Still way too much nicey nice with opponents. Did anyone notice VC smiling with Nate Robinson after the dustup on Friday night. We need to hate our opponents on the court a little more – stomp on a few throats when we have them down (Detroit etc.)!!

But I sense a turnaround.

All praise Nash and his greatness!!

Frye (of Victoria, Canada) - No more messin' around - time to rise from the ashes!

by Frye (of Victoria, Canada) on Jan 31, 2011 1:53 AM MST reply actions  

actually

Childress was highly effective both in Atlanta and in Greece in the shooting/scoring department. I think it’s too late in a career to totally change your shot, and I don’t think he needs to. He just needs to not have a broken finger, and then lose all of his shooting confidence because of it.

His biggest problem right now is Grant Hill. They provide basically the same stuff, only Grant does it better and is more trusted. I see Childress being great on this team once Hill moves on.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 31, 2011 7:37 AM MST up reply actions  

Ty ty ty...

I can’t agree more. It will be nice to give Chill a true chance showing what he can do.
But I’m really conviced that playing with a SF without a 3 pts shoot is deadly in nba.. so he had to work on it really hard. I just have a lot of respect formr Hill and JD is one of my favorite player of all times (yes yes) but Childress need a chance.. Thanks to the office to create such a great situation.. And they asking for more chemistry.. hahahahahaaaa

Go Suns!! Suns For Life!! (miss you Raja)

by Reelsht on Jan 31, 2011 9:28 AM MST up reply actions  

Chilly CAN shoot when he has plenty of space.

He should be able to shoot well enough to make the opponents respect his shot a little bit, and our guards just need that little bit of space. He’s never going to be a big shooting threat, so don’t look for him to become Dudz or anything. He just needs to learn how to play with the team. Learn when to cut and when to take that shot. Keep crashing the boards. Work on his foot speed. He’ll be just fine once he gets an opportunity.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

And go Shawn Watson and Barney Cotton! Seriously, leave Lincoln. Now.

Super Bowl here we come!

by Omaha Sun on Jan 31, 2011 11:21 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree.

I think he’s best as a slasher/rebounder/defender. We have plenty of jump shooters.

by Van2010 on Feb 1, 2011 10:07 AM MST up reply actions  

go Polish Hammer! Polish Machine! Polish Godzilla! Thortat! Gore tat!

amazing performance by Marcin. 25 points in 23 minutes 9/10 it’s insane! it’s inhuman! simply the beast! simply the best!
Lopez finally play good basketball, fighting, doing rebounds, play tough

by Maynard2011 on Jan 31, 2011 2:24 AM MST reply actions  

dowdell... energy guy

they need to sign him for the rest of the season.

by quixilver on Jan 31, 2011 2:43 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

+1

Dowdell looked good last night, running the halfcourt sets.

Trade Warrick!!!

by jc79 on Jan 31, 2011 12:37 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Nash are 4-0 against NBA's elite point guards

Rondo, Paul, Williams, Westbrook
but 0-2 against Holiday. sigh.

by shawndy on Jan 31, 2011 2:47 AM MST reply actions  

I like how Gentry pointed that out to the press, when they were asking him about Nash outplaying the elites.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 31, 2011 7:39 AM MST up reply actions  

Well at least we all know he's the best PG out there.

I mean, he’s virtually irreplaceable on this team.

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3
"I know...The Suns are like a drunk bi-sexual girl. You just have no idea what she is going to do." - TheRza82

by NashMV3 on Jan 31, 2011 8:29 AM MST up reply actions  

I AM STILL WAITING FOR THE TURNING POINTS OF THE SUNS

They better be winning the next 10 games to catch with the rest of the guys if they want to get to the playoff. Winning against Celtics and New Orleans giving no indication about the progress they make. C’mon Suns need to be more consistency in the shooting and rebound. Please be cautious with your 3rd and 4th quarters.

by unclebig on Jan 31, 2011 4:23 AM MST reply actions  

okay, well

you’re gonna be disappointed then, if a 10-game win streak is the only thing that will make you believe they can make the playoffs.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 31, 2011 7:40 AM MST up reply actions  

unclebig thinks big.

Personally I think he’s overcompensating a bit.

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3
"I know...The Suns are like a drunk bi-sexual girl. You just have no idea what she is going to do." - TheRza82

by NashMV3 on Jan 31, 2011 8:30 AM MST up reply actions  

What about a 9 game winning streak, then a loss at the end of an Eastern roadie, then another 9 game winning streak? They will probably still suck.

I smell like the vault. I'm so PAID.

by RMason on Jan 31, 2011 11:38 AM MST up reply actions  

I wouldn't call it dancing

As much as I’d call it a crack induced seizure while wearing traditional Native American clothing

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by Trevor Paxton on Jan 31, 2011 11:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Yep! Seizure man was insane..

He was either drugged or drunk..

There's something you better understand about me, 'cause it's important and one day your life may depend on it. I am definitely a madman with a box!

by Aztiramtempe on Feb 1, 2011 9:02 AM MST up reply actions  

Darn I can't believe I missed it!

Anyone have a clip of it?

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Feb 2, 2011 5:38 PM MST up reply actions  

One of the things I love about Gortat

is his confidence. He could have mailed in last night’s game after getting tagged with 2 fouls in 2 minutes, then 3 in the first half overall.

But he came out as if the first half never happened and recovered to being the guy we’ve seen for the past 2 weeks. Bam. That takes moxie and confidence.

Love that.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 31, 2011 9:49 AM MST reply actions  

Yup.

During halftime he heard that Seth isn’t sold on him yet and he was like “Rawr, F that guy!!!”

I smell like the vault. I'm so PAID.

by RMason on Jan 31, 2011 11:39 AM MST up reply actions  

nice!!!

"It's nice to feel good at 32. I don't feel old. I don't feel like this is getting harder. I feel like this is getting easier, if anything." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Jan 31, 2011 9:44 PM MST up reply actions  

love his additude...

this quote for example:

“I told Steve (Sunday morning) that I’m going to make him MVP again and I’m going to put in him in the first spot in assists. Rajon Rondo is a great point guard but he ain’t better than Steve.”

Man, if these 2 can develop a psychic link like nash had with amare…we could be in for good things..

and even if the bit about Rondo may not necessarily be true, you have to love that he said it…

by Fritzy on Jan 31, 2011 11:39 AM MST up reply actions   3 recs

It's pretty true.

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Jan 31, 2011 11:41 AM MST up reply actions  

well, I certainly think so

but I have to allow for the fact that my homerism might be blinding me

by Fritzy on Jan 31, 2011 11:41 AM MST up reply actions  

more like

if he could develop ridiculous hops like Amar’e we’d be all good… but homerism never hurt any body

"It's nice to feel good at 32. I don't feel old. I don't feel like this is getting harder. I feel like this is getting easier, if anything." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Jan 31, 2011 9:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Yep, His biggest problem for his whole career.

Good thing he is tall because he can’t jump for shit. Still, he sometimes can shock you with a power dunk.

Feed the cutter!!!

by Piotr Szczesniak on Feb 1, 2011 5:43 AM MST up reply actions  

he is certainly full of bravado

Gortat makes me laugh at how sure he is. He had a quote last week about playing with the starting unit and how he would be even 100% better with the starters than the backups. Then he came out and killed on the weekend games. Loved it.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 31, 2011 12:03 PM MST up reply actions  

We do have a pretty tough schedule, but Portland has to play SA at home on Tue (without Camby), then at Denver on Wed.

Griz play the Magic tonight, then the T-wolves on Wed. No predictions, but it’s a little favorable for us – not that we’ve shown the propensity to take advantage of things like that.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 31, 2011 12:16 PM MST reply actions  

would be nice if we were tied in the loss column as soon as Wednesday

and actually one up on the Griz…

The thing is having lost the series to both of those teams, and with both of them looking like pretty solid playoff type teams, I think we will overall need to win a lot of games to get this done, and in a way to give us some hope of something beside a 4-0 sweep in the first round as the 8th seed.

But as I tried to say after Friday, and feeling even moreso after last night, if Gorpez/Lotat gives us this, more or less, most of the way out, we’re gonna be tough to beat

by HarvMel on Jan 31, 2011 1:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Okay, I am going to make a prediction.

I just looked at the schedule, and our last game of the season is SA at home. Of course, if we win, we are the 8th seed, and will play SA in the first round, so…
     With 2.6 seconds left, trailing by one, SA in-bounds to Duncan, who hits a driving Ginobli flashing down the lane. Gortat goes up for the block, and they both turn their head at the same time, causing their noses to collide – of course, Gortat is the only guy in the NBA with a bigger nose than Ginobli, so Ginobli’s nose splinters, and a foul is called. He can’t take the foul shots, so we pick who shoots the FT’s, and we pick Haislip, and his gaudy 40% average. He then makes one, sending it into overtime, which is dominated by a reprise of Dragic’s finals performance of last year. McDeyess hip checks Goran into the scorer’s table, is suspended for the playoffs, no Sun steps on the floor, and Duncan misses a last second 3 to give us the win, and the right to face them in the playoffs – which we win, with Ginobli and MDeyess out.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 31, 2011 1:20 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm going to that game

plane tickets/game tickets purchased, I will riot in the streets and slap Joe Arpaio if this happens.

by Ceek on Jan 31, 2011 1:50 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

I like it..

Would be funny if we had the complete role reversal. SA becomes the offence first, regular season killers, who struggle against only us in the playoffs, but somehow always seem to play us, while we are now a decent offensive team that has a very tough inside presence, s@@k during the early part of the season only to turn it on for the playoffs.

by HarvMel on Jan 31, 2011 2:12 PM MST up reply actions  

lol

Headline: VINCE CANCER retired after hitting his 20,000th point..!

by sun_equalizer on Jan 31, 2011 4:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Wow... Huge head!!!!

If I was rocky I b freak out, just by looking @ the head.

There's something you better understand about me, 'cause it's important and one day your life may depend on it. I am definitely a madman with a box!

by Aztiramtempe on Feb 1, 2011 9:04 AM MST up reply actions  

Great win - but agree that we doan need the friggin heart attack at the end

Suddenly we have 2 – count’em 2 – decent C’s! Holy size, Batman! BAMF seriously needs a rest. Steve looked tired too. Duds was so steady and quietly made some huge shots in 4th Q. Dowdell filled in well in what was a tough situation. Good effort on D. Every now and then VC does something to remind you that he could be special every night. We’re winning without shooting well, which is weird for this team. Gotta love the blue collar grit.

by Van2010 on Jan 31, 2011 1:20 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

I hope Nash misses the all-star game

Would really help his recovery to have a week off.

by motherwell on Jan 31, 2011 1:22 PM MST up reply actions  

he will

the platinum rule

NO Gasol, NO Shaq equals NO Championship.

by Christian_33 on Jan 31, 2011 3:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Great write-up Trevor - loved it

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
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by Eutychus on Jan 31, 2011 1:45 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

I hope the person

who rec’d this comment also rec’d the post itself

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 31, 2011 4:10 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

That would be me, and yes, I did.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 31, 2011 5:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks guys

I feel like I’m just coming back after injury…finally starting to find my groove again

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by Trevor Paxton on Jan 31, 2011 11:31 PM MST up reply actions  

go for 8 suns

Headline: VINCE CANCER retired after hitting his 20,000th point..!

by sun_equalizer on Jan 31, 2011 4:51 PM MST reply actions  

I keep hearing about how we shouldn't have won that game due to the goaltend...

What’s funny is how Chris Paul tweeted “no comment” a dozen times on twitter as if to show frustration, but no mention of how he got away with a free basket of his own after Nash was blatantly tripped and no foul was called.

The fact remains, the Suns outplayed N.O. in every way last night…We deserved to win that game, and other than a fluky ending, there should have been no question about how the best team won.

If people want to complain about the call at the very end, then they also need to bring up the officiating that went against us throughout the night as well. Either way you shake it, we earned this win.

by 7footer on Jan 31, 2011 7:26 PM MST reply actions   4 recs

Here's what I tweeted after CP3

Chris Paul’s flop on the 3 pointer to draw a phantom foul on Channing Frye was the worst… But no Chris Paul, It was all about the last play

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
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by Eutychus on Jan 31, 2011 9:32 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Am assuming there was no reply from him..

Still funny.. And true

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by Aztiramtempe on Feb 1, 2011 9:08 AM MST up reply actions  

very early for score board watching, but..

Lets go magic..Denver already lost, Utah in trouble vs. Charlotte, but Magic struggling with Grizzz..go magic!

by HarvMel on Jan 31, 2011 8:11 PM MST reply actions  

5 back of the 6 seed pending Utah's result

But 4 back of 13th place.

Scoreboard watching is fun.

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RIP Seasons of Discontent

by Scott Howard on Jan 31, 2011 8:16 PM MST up reply actions  

memphis looking a little blessed and a bit better organized than some..

Had a huge comeback vs. Philly, and just seem to be getting a lot of close, big wins. They seem like one of the main challengers. They also have one of the better half court offences, which could be useful in pulling out the close wins.

by HarvMel on Jan 31, 2011 8:47 PM MST reply actions  

Current playoff picture

Leaves us 2.5 games out of the 8th seed and 4.5 games out of the 13th seed.

Memphis and Utah’s wins hurt us.

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by Trevor Paxton on Jan 31, 2011 11:50 PM MST reply actions  

im just happy Rolo

Had more than 3 rebs!

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by stevedavis_ on Feb 1, 2011 8:56 AM MST reply actions  

Didn’t get to see the game, but great win despite the near choke. If this were against the kings or clippers I would still be worried about this team, but the fact that we only nearly choked to a pretty good team is an improvement.

Don't trade Dudley!

Some people are just like slinkys, they're good for nothing
yet can still manage to put a smile on your face
when pushing them down a flight of stairs.

by Beavis 25 on Feb 1, 2011 3:41 PM MST reply actions   2 recs

lol

that was a good one

but the fact that we only nearly choked to a pretty good team is an improvement

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by Alex Laugan on Feb 1, 2011 4:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, it's always better to be able to say you almost lost.

So is Nash playing in the all-star game? He absolutely deserves to but I hope he doesn’t. He could use the rest, especially with Goran injured. BTW, would somebody please buy Goran a flashlight and some shoes – or maybe insist he buys cannned beer?
Veeeery stoked. Going to the OKC game on Friday. Big road trip all the way from the frozen north. Woohoo! Not that hot in Phoenix right now but still an upgrade for us Canucks. I’ll be the noisy pasty old guy. Also an infallible good luck charm. Magically delicious.

by Van2010 on Feb 1, 2011 5:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Good luck getting to Oklahoma.

The entire midwest is in the midst of a giant blizzard. I hope your flight doesn’t take you through Illinois, Indiana, or Nebraska.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

And go Shawn Watson and Barney Cotton! Seriously, leave Lincoln. Now.

Super Bowl here we come!

by Omaha Sun on Feb 2, 2011 12:14 AM MST up reply actions  

well that was a waste of hour and a half of my life

The spurs got 7 baskets in the last 18 mins of the game. And scored 18 points in the last 18 mins. Portland just completely shut them down (with some nice help from the refs) and Aldridge and to a lesser extent Miller and Williams were on fire.

The big problem for the suns right now is that the teams they are trying to pass are some of the hotter and hungrier teams out there right now. I don’t think we can pass either Memphis or Portland without winning close to 50 games. I seriously see a repeat of last year where despite us playing well and winning a bunch we make almost no progress. Aldridge is seriously playing at almost a Gasol like level and Miller and Williams are playing like really elite back court guys. I know it seems like panicking but really to me the weaker teams in the west are Denver and Utah, who I fear are just too far ahead already.

by HarvMel on Feb 1, 2011 10:38 PM MST reply actions  

I still think there's plenty of room for teams to slip up.

It’s doing to come down to whether or not the Suns play well enough to jump them. Aldridge is putting in work, but I dunno. I’m hoping our guys get things going.

On a completely unrelated note, I just realized if we made the finals last year the Lakers would have had to root for us out of Boston Hatred. That would have been…fantastic.

by TheAlexSkinner on Feb 1, 2011 10:54 PM MST up reply actions  

we have to get going, but..

we have zero games left against Memphis and Portland. and they have the series tie break. so we need to pass both of them without the advantage of games against them that count for 2.

I do think we can get on a roll, but the kind of roll that I think we need will require a lot to go right. No slip ups from Gorpez, no injuries, only 2 or 3 home losses the rest of the way out….Not too many phone it in nights. Something like 26-10, and I am still not sure that is enough.

Interestingly, we have 3 left against the Jazz and are only 4 behind them in the loss column. If we could sweep all 3 (2 are at home….) then that would help big time. So that game in Utah next week is big. Hopefully, DW is still out.

by HarvMel on Feb 1, 2011 11:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Exactly.

I look at the scoreboard/standings and get excited when other West teams lose, but we were playing so badly that it hardly matter.

Like Haremoor says, it just comes down to winning. As long as the team is focusing on racking up wins we could go as high as 4, who knows? Lakers locked up the #1 seed and started slipping, but we finished only 3 games behind them. As long as we keep winning and playing hard who knows where we end up. Could get lucky if other teams slip, and get HCA.

But, obviously goal #1: Don’t lose. Ever.

by TheAlexSkinner on Feb 1, 2011 11:16 PM MST up reply actions  

I get ya..

Just a bit frustrated that we need so much to go right now. We could be a pretty good team if we can continue the path we are on. But so many losses were built up early as we were adjusting to the bad off season moves and then the pretty good trade with Orlando, that I would hate to see that get in the way of what could otherwise be a nice run into the playoffs.

On a related note, I had to bet my brother and his son 5 bucks that we make the playoffs tonight as they were overly skeptical, so perhaps that huge bet has colored my otherwise crystal clear vision.

by HarvMel on Feb 1, 2011 11:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, same.

I’ve gone back and counted games we should have won and where we could have been in the standings. Sucks right now, but I’m with you, I think we get in.

by TheAlexSkinner on Feb 2, 2011 12:57 AM MST up reply actions  

We just have to keep winning and let the rest of it take care of itself.

Nothing we can do about it.
But Gortat is starting to put up Gasol like numbers, too.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Feb 1, 2011 11:05 PM MST up reply actions  

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