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Who's your Phoenix Suns least favorite player of all-time?
by matrix7 on Jan 31, 2011 1:36 PM MST
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Anyone that thinks Vince Carter is this team's only problem needs to get laughed at. But he is probably my least favorite Phoenix Sun of all-time.
This sentence of Scott Howard has made me think that this was a good time to write a fanpost.
A rosterbation idea? No. It’s really more fun, at least I think so.
This is to say who is your Phoenix Suns least favorite player of all-time, or at least you know.
My choice: Nikoloz Tskitishvili:
He played for the Suns in the 2005-2006 season, only a few games. He was a high draft pick and although he didn’t succeed in any team, I thought he would be a good asset for the Suns; tall, fast, decent shooter.... But the reality is that he was a bluf (Spanish expression) that means more or less "Person or thing covered with a prestige that is revealed later unfounded"
Who's yours?
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Barkley
Mainly for his defensive lapse in Game 6. Go check the video.
Maybe Starbury. Was there ever a more useless person put on the Suns’ jersey?
I don’t think it’s fair to pick on Nikoli-whatever because dislike has to be bred of some expectation or something. Guy never had a chance. Why not pick Jake Suck-alidis, then?
Mmmmm ... Guinness
Agreed with JSun.
I think expectation, salary, and attitude need to be part of it. Poor Nikoli is like someone picking T-Griff. Was he awful? Surely. Did he deserve to be in an NBA uniform? Absolutely not. But he affected nothing.
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It's between Robert Horry and Sam Cassell.
Just because they are Robert Horry and Sam Cassell.
"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."
by haremoor on Jan 31, 2011 1:57 PM MST reply actions 3 recs
Horry got excommunicated
So there is no recrod of him (kind of like Reggie Bush). That doesn’t count.
Mmmmm ... Guinness
Casell for sure
He had tons of ability, but didn’t want to be a Sun. It was evident he didn’t want to give 100%
Sam was a winner, just look at all the other teams he was on, all contenders with him on it, and he couldn’t get his Suns jersey off fast enough.
" Dick Bavetta and Moses parted the Red Sea together". ----Charles Barkley
William Bedford.
- #6 overall pick in the 1986 draft.
- Total bust. Only lasted 1 season in Phoenix before being traded.
- Drug addict.
- Currently in prison.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Bedford
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Whatever I say, Polish Hammer will back."
Really good one.
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by Scott Howard on Jan 31, 2011 2:20 PM MST up reply actions
Jerrod Mustaf has to be mentioned, too.
Seeing as how he was suspected of having a woman killed.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/news/1998/09/19/mustaf_settles/
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by East Bay Ray on Jan 31, 2011 3:17 PM MST up reply actions
Moose would probably be my pick
and that wasn’t his only run-in with the law. He had multiple domestic abuse charges and an assault charge as well, if I recall correctly.
Trade Warrick!!!
can you imagine how uncomfortable a prison cell is when you're 7'0
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I never liked Rex Chapman.
I will definitely get some angry notes on this, but I just felt like all he did was shoot and miss threes.
Now, before you go yelling at me, I was only a pre-teen when he played for the Suns so don’t think my disliking holds any fully logical anti-sentiment. But I stick by my young self’s belief.
I liked Chapman, but I won’t yell at ya.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jan 31, 2011 4:56 PM MST up reply actions
Hot Rod Williams is another suggestion for me
He was a slug by the time he came to Phoenix and he came at the price of Dan Majerle.
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Robert Horry
no questions ask.
Two other players I do not hate just the way they were involved with the Suns.
Richard Dumas, who had all the talent in the world and blew it.
Rich Robey who the Suns acquired for Dennis Johnson. ouch.
See depends on the criteria if you're going for Horry
Horry had the towel incident when he was here but besides that he was almost entirely unmemorable (I don’t think that many people even recall the towel incident). He became hated after he left.
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by Scott Howard on Jan 31, 2011 3:11 PM MST up reply actions
I hated him for that
It just showed him to be the petulent, tag-along, wannabe that he is.
Remember the kid from school that threw a fit if he got picked for the inferior team? Every once in a while, he’d throw a big enough fit to get on the other team. Then, he’d make one lucky-a$$ shot and gloat for the rest fo the semester. Yeah, that guy.
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on Jan 31, 2011 3:14 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
riggidy rec'd
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That is the reason the towel
incident, Ainge didn’t deserve that or no coach deserves that. Then he hip checks Nash, that sealed the deal. He is a punk and always will be. I don’t give a rats ass how many rings he has.
I'm going to have to chronicle the towel incident on here some day
Feel like the new/young fans have no friggin clue what we’re talking about.
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by Scott Howard on Jan 31, 2011 8:02 PM MST up reply actions
Didn't Ainge
replace Horry from the game? . I know it was in Boston, but as far as the reason for Horry to act like a punk I am not sure. Whatever the explanation it still was bush league on Horry’s part. Looking at the boxscore, he was 1 of 4 with 4 turnovers.
They then moved him 5 days later to LA and the Suns got Ceballos, a win for the Suns
Yea Horry was pissed about being yanked
And it was in Boston. Unfortunately Ced had already peaked by that time.
Can’t believe youtube doesn’t have a video of this.
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by Scott Howard on Jan 31, 2011 8:25 PM MST up reply actions
I don't understand the Shaq hatred
He was an all-star here. The bogged down offense that season wasn’t his fault so much as Terry Porter’s.
Trade Warrick!!!
Anyone who:
Puts himself before his team
Promises a ring and then in no way delivers
Shits in Lou Amundson’s shoe
Steals TV Show ideas from Steve Nash
DESERVES TO GET HATED ON!
that said, I agree with Zen. Shaq is my least favorite. The Big Least Favorite.
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by Will Slaven on Feb 1, 2011 3:43 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
I wonder how many nick names
fans of teams that he has played for could come up with.
The Big Disappointment
The Big Distraction
He’s fat now.
by Ceek on Feb 1, 2011 9:43 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Ditto...
…so many reasons to be upset with Shaq as a Sun. Not as a man, not as a player in general, but as a Sun, for sure.
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by Basketball GF on Feb 1, 2011 3:59 PM MST up reply actions
Paul Shirley
Sucked at basketball and life in general.
Bo Baggins!
by ajotanelsona on Jan 31, 2011 3:00 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Dude, Shirley is one of my faves — hilarious and smart individual. I like having some of those around.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jan 31, 2011 4:55 PM MST up reply actions
Smart?
His offensive comments on the Haiti earthquake kinda proved his lack of intelligence to me.
Bo Baggins!
by ajotanelsona on Jan 31, 2011 9:23 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I hadn't heard about that but I just looked it up,
read what he said, and easily concluded that Paul Shirley is a piece of shit idiot. Fuck Paul Shirley
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What about Guggliota?
Talk about a huge, lazy disppointment.
I’d dislike him more if he didn’t seem like such a jovial character.
Mmmmm ... Guinness
He was pretty snakebitten
With injuries and the stroke.
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by Scott Howard on Jan 31, 2011 3:21 PM MST up reply actions
i would say...
joe kleine
what a waste of 7 feet…
Montero, Mora
Miranda, Gutierrez
Gonna arrest ‘em?
Joe is forever endeared to me.
Against Utah during the lockout season, when Malone broke his nose and split his lip with an elbow, my man Joe Kleine walked all the way across the court to Malone with his bloodied face and angrily shoved the douchebag, leaving a bloody handprint on his jersey. Malone just stood there with a prick look on his face like he always did.
Besides, Joe was just a backup C. He was never overpaid and didn’t really fail to meet anyone’s expectations.
I smell like the vault. I'm so PAID.
by RMason on Jan 31, 2011 4:50 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Great memory, man.
I don’t remember that situation at all, but I did like the season when they had both Kleine and Danny Schayes, and Westphal jokingly referred to them as “Schleine”. Moral of the story: when Danny Schayes is the less crappy of your two options at center, you’re prone to making a desperation move like trading Dan Majerle for Hot Rod Williams.
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by East Bay Ray on Jan 31, 2011 6:16 PM MST up reply actions
No problem with
Kleine, Hell there is a lot of 7 footers who have struggled in this league. Paging Shawn Bradley.
Marcus Banks And Luc Longley
With an honorable mention to Scott Williams.
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by Smoooth Criminal on Jan 31, 2011 3:46 PM MST reply actions
I'm never opposed to hating on Scott Williams
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Tie
Oliver miller, richard dumas, and boris diaw.
Honorable mention to Kevin Johson. I waited in line all day at the Converse shoe outlet by castles and coasters for an autograph and he decided to leave when I was two people from finally getting my new shoes signed.
ouch!
he was at my GF’s school once but she was too shy to ask for an autogragh.
"It's nice to feel good at 32. I don't feel old. I don't feel like this is getting harder. I feel like this is getting easier, if anything." Steve Nash
yea
I was like 9-10 years old at the time, he drove a black porsche with the license plate “KJ7”, I remember it like it was yesterday.
You're not the only one
A buddy of mine got turned down for an autograph because he was wearing a Jordan 23 jersey when he asked.
“Why don’t you go ask Jordan for an autograph?”
Yeah, KJ’s a dick, but he also played balls-out all the friggin time, and is the owner of my fave Suns moment of all time (KJ over Olajuwon), so he still gets my love.
Trade Warrick!!!
This hurts me to read.
KJ is bar none my all-time favorite athlete. This is why I hate knowing personal information about sports stars.
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RIP Seasons of Discontent
YAY!
Suck on that Hakeem. (things AC Green never said to anyone during his NBA career)
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Your story is funny to me
because KJ was known for signing way more then any other Sun. At the games at Veteran’s Memorial he was the only player you could count on to sign for everybody despite being the most popular. I had nearly my whole autograph collection stolen, but some KJs survived because I had so many.
I’m sure he’d be glad to sign your Cons now if you send them to the Mayor’s office in Sactown.
by oLLiE Boombayay on Feb 1, 2011 3:25 PM MST up reply actions
While I can see there are always times athletes act dickish...
KJ was always great to me. When they practiced at the JCC [before it moved to scottsdale], I was always in the gym. Everytime he was there, he took time out to play one-on-one with me, to help me with my game. He was always friendly and went out of his way for me on more than one occasion. So, while I feel bad for you about your experience, certainly that one incident shouldn’t paint the portrait of the man.
The guy that usually was a jerk was Eddie Johnson. While I think he is actually doing a pretty good job doing games for the Suns, I am not a fan personally.
I am sure he was
but I interacted with him as a teenager many times, and as a coach while his son played at Brophy, and he never was particularly nice. He doesn’t know me and I don’t know him, just never got a great vibe from him, that’s all. He may well be a good guy, just was a jerk most of the time.
Starbury would like to issue a rebuttal to all the haters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SLFtLqk2mQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUQ9CPdl5bw (Scott Williams, JJ and Amar’e are locked in)
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by Scott Howard on Jan 31, 2011 5:10 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, well, I don't have to look hard to find clips of VC doing shit twice as cool
so I wont look at all
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by Will Slaven on Feb 1, 2011 3:48 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I hope you don't think I was offering a serious defense of Starbury
Because well….yuck.
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I'd kind of like Starbury back
In place of VC. When you’re losing, you might as lose hilariously.
Mmmmm ... Guinness
Think he'd eat vaseline on the court?
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by Scott Howard on Feb 1, 2011 10:22 AM MST up reply actions
IF he was sick, otherwise there's no reason
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That guy that plays for them now, whatshisname?
Wince Harder, I think. I’m not a fan of his, either, but at least he didn’t go to prison like a couple guys mentioned here.
Trade Warrick!!!
you mean this guy?
"It's nice to feel good at 32. I don't feel old. I don't feel like this is getting harder. I feel like this is getting easier, if anything." Steve Nash
by 2NASHTY on Jan 31, 2011 8:36 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Neal Walk :(
And it’s not even his fault…
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I was upset
that the coin flipped was lost to the Milwakee Bucks ( even though the Suns had more losses the previous year) and Bucks draft Alcinder.
However no fault of Walks. He is confined to a wheelchair due to a tumor in his back. And has done good work for wheel chair athletes.
oh geez now that makes me feel like a jerk :(
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Jason Kidd
I never liked his game, and he’s an awful person. I stopped watching the Suns toward the end of his stint here.
My dishonorable mentions: Danny Ainge (just because he slacked off on Paxson), Boris Diaw (to quote Charles Barkley after he passed on an open shot: “Shoot the ball, son!”), and—of course—Robert Horry.
You can't be pissed at Ainge for collapsing in on Jordan
The entire flipping team did, thats why Paxson was so open. No one person, or two for that matter could stop Jordan.
Although I didn’t like Ainge’s cry baby face when he didn’t get a call, it was worse than Timmie’s.
" Dick Bavetta and Moses parted the Red Sea together". ----Charles Barkley
He actually collapsed in on Pippen.
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Just watched it on You Tube. Your right.
Funny how you remember things. Maybe because 23 scored every other point in that quarter, I figured it was him. thnx for the correction.
" Dick Bavetta and Moses parted the Red Sea together". ----Charles Barkley
Six year-old me blamed Ainge. I'll try to get over the rage.
I was so angry. I remember drawing the Chicago Stadium collapsing and crushing him, Paxson, and Jackson.
im surprised no one has suggested T-Griff
maybe he was so fun to make fun of it made him likable.
I am not going to give my most hated because after reading most of everyones choices, I must not understand the question. Some of them were;
Barkley, KJ, Kidd, VC.
Barkley was MVP and took suns to their best record. KJ solid hard working PG also took Suns to best record. Kidd and VC are hall of famers.
And still the hate? I dont get it.
NYC Suns Fan!!!
Barkley was (and is) a fat loudmouth (I love him, though).
KJ was made of glass and didn’t perform well in the ’93 finals (still love him, too). Kidd beat up his wife. VC dunked on that Frenchman so hard he created a small singularity which sucked up a few million people before it dissipated.
KJ wasn't made of glass
He was just too small to play the way he did. Until the Barkley campaign, he played 70+ games a season. Dude was always running into people, floors, everything and getting hammered along the way.
Mmmmm ... Guinness
I dont think it's fair to pick someone like T-Griff
that’s like picking jarron collins or Eric Piatkowski…Griffin shouldn’t have been on the team but he didn’t play enough to make me not like him.
Does hammer beat rifle
in rock paper scissors, er
hammer rifle sickle?
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Nobody even comes close to Horry
Marbury and Shaq played well with the Suns it was just bad trades that brought them to the Suns. Giving up Marion and Kidd for those two were examples of management hitting the panic button. Cassell hardly tried so he would rank in the top 5 for sure. Ever notice how Horry and Cassell’s success was always the result of riding the coat tails of true stars?
I do not hate backup players because they don’t hold the team back and draft busts don’t bother me that much because it is the team’s job to find the right player. As long as they give it their all.
Ainge is a close second for me. He always played like a punk and nothing changed when he was with the Suns. Not guarding Paxson in ’93 was unforgivable. The way he bailed on the Suns as a coach only to resurface as a Celtics GM bothers me too.
I doubt Vince will crack my top 5 with only 1/2 season and then getting bought out.
1. Horry
2. Ainge
3. Cassell
4. Oliver Miller (never took his weight issues seriously)
5. Walter Davis (for being a snitch on his own teammates)
6. Barkley (how he left the Suns and all his sh!t talking since)
Kidd was more the social panic button than the personnel panic button
Interesting commentary on Walter Davis although his snitching did help the rebuild well and quickly since they had to usher out all the coke heads.
Horry and Cassel were even less than half season players for the Suns (35 and 22 games respectively) so don’t write Vince off just because he wasn’t here long.
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Never say never
but Vince doesn’t seem like the type that will throw Suns under the bus. If anything he wants to prove he’s worth another contract to somebody.
Colangelo over reacted to the bad PR for both Davis and Kidd. The Suns could have used James Edwards. I think fans care more about a winning then off court issues when it comes down to it.
by oLLiE Boombayay on Feb 2, 2011 3:35 PM MST up reply actions
The drugs I can live with.
The domestic violence I can’t.
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The strange thing here is that Juwanna Kidd
was also abusing Jason. They both jacked each other up from time to time. Now that’s dysfunction!
Trade Warrick!!!
For me that ended up being much ado about nothing
She stuck around Kidd and was proven to be batsh!t crazy later on in NJ. Maybe she made the whole thing up or maybe they beat each other like jc79 says below. We’ll never know the whole story. Either way you don’t trade your all-world PG for Marbury because he is having domestic issues. NJ went to the Finals TWICE after that with what? Kidd and Kenyon Martin?!
Oliver Miller was accused of rape that took place at Barkley’s house and was quite detailed in the New Times. Nothing came of it, but it certainly changed my opinion of him.
by oLLiE Boombayay on Feb 3, 2011 1:38 PM MST up reply actions
Coke was rampant in the NBA in the '80s
So to call the ex-Suns coke heads would be like calling 60% of the league coke heads. The AZ attorney general thought he had something major and he had nothing other then scaring the tears out of Sweet D with threats of prison and ending his career.
Walter Davis doesn’t get any of that credit for rebuilding. That’s all on Jerry C. and Cotton. Pulling the trigger on the Nance trade took some serious balls.
by oLLiE Boombayay on Feb 3, 2011 1:46 PM MST up reply actions
Hedo Turkoglu
-Signed Jim Coughenour
Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!
And go Shawn Watson and Barney Cotton! Seriously, leave Lincoln. Now.
Super Bowl here we come!
Where is the lovely Jim?
Haven’t seen him on in a while.
"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3
"I know...The Suns are like a drunk bi-sexual girl. You just have no idea what she is going to do." - TheRza82
I rarely see him after wins.
"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."
Earl Barron.
For no particular reason other than the fact that he cannot finish anywhere within 3 feet of the basket. Plus, I harbor no real dislike for any Suns player so I can’t give a hateful answer.
"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3
"I know...The Suns are like a drunk bi-sexual girl. You just have no idea what she is going to do." - TheRza82
he cannot finish anywherewithin 3 feet of the basket.
Fixed that for you.
Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!
And go Shawn Watson and Barney Cotton! Seriously, leave Lincoln. Now.
Super Bowl here we come!
by Omaha Sun on Feb 2, 2011 12:41 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks, Jacob.
What would I do without you?
"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3
"I know...The Suns are like a drunk bi-sexual girl. You just have no idea what she is going to do." - TheRza82
Totally wrong
He couldn’t do anything other than D it up and draw fouls. This team NEEDED Earl Barron’s defense like a Mo-Fo.
Boris Diaw
Good lord he looked lazy on the court. He was just a constant lazy P.O.S. who was occasionally just good enough to string us along for a few years.
The first part of this video is why Boris isn't on my list.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFSwUvpIRfQ&feature=player_embedded
Skip the first 10 seconds and watch the next 1:20.
He does laze out on his dribbling around 0:50, though.
He must have lost sight of the guy running in front of him with a croissant hanging from a stick.
ON a mildly related note,
my ice cream declares itself to be “Fromage” flavored. It is, however, delicious with apple pie. MMMmmmmm… pie a la mode
Trade Warrick!!!
You can get some at the Oriental supermarket
on 75th Ave and Cactus. Lee Lee? I forget the name…
Trade Warrick!!!
Dude, way off
When Amar’e was out for the season, it was Diaw that filled the void. It’s really impossible to know how, considering all those negatives, and he didn’t fill it solely by himself, but he stepped up Huge that year.
Then he got paid.
Then he got fat.
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by Scott Howard on Feb 2, 2011 11:32 PM MST up reply actions
Mike Niles
I hated him mostly because in 1980, John McCloud, in his infinite wisdom, decided that Mike Niles would be better for the franchise than my cousin. Mike made the team and my cousin went to Europe and became a star.
Niles short-lived 44 game stint was wrought with air balls and turnovers, however it was his post-career moves that brought him infamy.
After being cut, he paid a man named Noel “No, No” Jackson $5,000 to kill his wife in order to collect on a $95,000 insurance policy.
by coachj14 on Feb 2, 2011 11:22 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
How fun!
Jackson seems like a peach. Now on death row. http://off2dr.com/smf/index.php?topic=6297.0
Then there’s this. http://articles.latimes.com/1986-03-31/sports/sp-2183_1_bobby-dye/3
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by Scott Howard on Feb 2, 2011 11:34 AM MST up reply actions
sorry,
i actually tried to post that link in my post but it distapeared [as my daughter says].
I fully support lighting Mike Niles and Noel Jackson on fire.
"Don't worry, I'm intact.
Whatever I say, Polish Hammer will back."
Sorry, death row inmates have more rights than normal citizens
“Dammit, warden, I said bring me the ’67 Chianti!”
Trade Warrick!!!
last meal
do you really want a merlot? no
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So does the state of California.
Well sort of
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RIP Seasons of Discontent
You peaked my interest
Obviously I love historical stuff
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funny thing about Niles
The guy was flat out crazy. I remember being there every day for their FA camp. He never shut up the entire time and was the cockiest person I ever witnessed [strange for a guy that was totally a fringe player]. My cousin actually chewed him up, but unfortunately made some comment to MacLeod at the end of camp and MacLeod basically got pissed and set him packing. That was back in the day when you could blackball players.
Turns out he sent the wrong guy packing.
does this comment
pique your interest by definition 1 or 2?
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No player caused me more frustration than Boris Diaw. He played great one year and after words became lazy and inconsistent. It’s like he was only interested half the time from 06-07- 07-08. It was like, “Boris sucks, lets trade him…wait he just played a pretty good game, lets keep him, wait nevermind he still sucks, wait no…,wait…” It’s that stupid contract they gave him.
To make things worse, when Amar’e came back that reduced his role from a go to guy in the post to a mid-range jumper shooter/slasher and he sucked at both. He couldn’t drive into the paint and although he could shoot he’d pass up the open shot half the time. He’d even do this when open under the basket. Part of his decline wasn’t his fault because him an Amar’e just weren’t a good fit together, but the rest is because he refused to do his role half the time. For a team that only went 7-8 guys deep we really needed him to be consistent and play hard. He didn’t and that is why I’m not convinced we still could have won in 07 if the suspensions didn’t happen. He should have been traded by the deadline of that season.
Don't trade Dudley!
Some people are just like slinkys, they're good for nothing
yet can still manage to put a smile on your face
when pushing them down a flight of stairs.
Georgi Glouchkov
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgi_Glouchkov
Was supposed to be that big man that the Suns have been looking for for 40 years. If anyone remembers this guy, I’ll buy you a beer.
I mostly hated his hair.
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You owe me a beer! I totally remember him.
He was the first major European import to the NBA, right? We sort of take Euro players for granted now, but it didn’t used to be so common.
"Don't worry, I'm intact.
Whatever I say, Polish Hammer will back."
I know him from the awesome 25th anniversary Suns book
Anyone else have that? My dog ate it in like 2000. Stupid dog.
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RIP Seasons of Discontent
Glouchkov impressed the Suns with his strong rebounding and became a regular member of the team’s playing rotation; as the year went on, however, Glouchkov began gaining weight, and his productivity decreased. Some Suns’ staff members attributed his weight gain to his taste for American fast food and candy, but rumors also surfaced that he was experimenting with steroids.
lol
Don't trade Dudley!
Some people are just like slinkys, they're good for nothing
yet can still manage to put a smile on your face
when pushing them down a flight of stairs.
Jake Tsakalidis
was the guy who they said would finally be our franchise center.
Now that guy was a disappointment.
Mario Bennett
He is my second all-time worst [to Mike Niles].
I knew him at ASU and that guy was just flat wrong.
Man.
Mario Bennett really was one of the worst.
I went to ASU basketball camp the year he was coming out of the draft (1995) and he strolled in like he owned the place…obviously. When asked by a camper whether he thought he was going to get drafted by the Suns Bennett replied “naw man I’m gonna get picked way before that.”
The Suns had 2 picks…21st and 27th. He went 27th and even that was too high. What a waste. I can’t believe he started 14 games for the Suns.
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Feb 2, 2011 11:39 PM MST up reply actions
These personal stories are awesome
My hatred of players pertains mostly to on court issues.
Mario was pretty one dimensional and didn’t seem to have that work ethic it takes to make it in the NBA. Suns scored big time with Finley, but to call Bennet a waste is a stretch. Look at the rest of the draft and not a single player after Bennett did jack squat other then Ostertag.
In fact Mario Bennett did own the place if it was an ASU hoops camp.
by oLLiE Boombayay on Feb 3, 2011 2:14 PM MST up reply actions
steve nash?
For being the greatest point guard in the NBA and still not getting a championship. It is like dating Kim Kardashian for 5 years and not getting laid. I got championship blue balls.
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