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Phoenix Suns 2011-2012 Position Analysis: Point Guard

The man.  The Myth.  The Legend.  (Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images)

Yo Brightsiders! Welcome to installment numero tres of our look at the 2011/12 Phoenix Suns roster by position. Today we will look at our Point Guards. Only 4.5 days until the regular season opener!

All I want for Christmas is a back-up point guard who won't screw things up too bad when Nash leaves the game.

How about you?

Let's face the facts - we know Steve Nash will start, he looks like he's in great shape and ready to get the ball rolling, or bouncing. But how will Aaron Brooks bounce back from his 'eh-so-so' showing after the trade last.... oh wait, he's still in China? Dang.

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Just kidding! (Borat Voice)

We know the Suns front office has done a pretty good job so far by bringing in some quality players and also keeping a sense of continuity and familiarity by not doing too much. Now whether or not that's the right thing to do philosophically and from an arm-chair GM standpoint is an entirely different conversation.

At the Point the Phoenix Suns brought in two veterans in Sebastian Telfair and Ronnie Price to battle it out for the back-up spot behind Nash.

Steve Nash - the Only Certain Starter

Strengths: Yes.

Weaknesses: Does the most interesting man in the world have weaknesses? Then why would you ask if his mentor did?

Okay seriously now.

The lockout is and was many many things - ugly, stupid, jerk-face, dumb-heads - those words come to mind first... but throwing my childish emotions aside and placing my philosophical goggles on, the lockout was a double-edged sword for our Phoenix Suns. Before the lockout inhaled any games, the regular season schedule looked really good for our sun-setting Suns (I'm talking about Grant Hill and Steve Nash if you didn't catch that metaphor). There were only 16 scheduled back-to-back sets, that was the least in the entire league!

But. The lockout DID happen. The 82 game regular season was thrown into a compactor and squashed down to 66 games. Now the Suns face 21 back-to-back games, 14 sets of 3 games in 4 days (compared to 11 pre-abbreviation), and 2 sets of 4 games in 5 days (compared to 1). That's not so good for Steve Nash and Grant Hill.

But what was good, at least for Steve was the fact that the extended summer gave him a better opportunity to nurse and heal his previous year's injury, that pelvic gyrational stabilization of instability injury... you know, that one. It wasn't until August of this year that Steve Nash publicly stated that he felt he had finally come back to 100% health and could do more basketball moves in his training.

It's the Gorilla 'other' Gorilla in the Suns locker room. Nash is grinding down. Consider this.

Nash shot under 50 percent from the field (.492) for the first time in 6 years. He shot under 40% from 3 (.395) for the first time in 11 years (He also attempted less 3-point shots than he has in 12 years, only 2.7 per game).

To be fair, at the beginning (or for about the first half) of last season Steve was playing at a VERY high level, numbers comparable to his MVP years - but once the injury hit, his numbers dipped significantly. He also led the league in assists - again. Can we blame all his shooting/playing time dips on his pelvis? Maybe. But remember, Nash has chronic back problems, and it wasn't but 2 years back that he also played very well at the beginning of the season - only to tail off as the grind wore on.

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All indicators (Coaching staff, media, teammates) relay the message this year that Steve is playing at a 'High' level, that he's 'in mid-season form', that he 'hasn't lost a thing'. That's familiar, because that's how Steve Nash is - he prepares rigorously for the new season by doing anything but basketball. Steve might be in terrific shape to run a marathon every week - or even to join a professional Soccer club and play at an elevated level... but I worry that it's Steve's basketball muscles that are wearing down. I don't doubt that he'll start the season off looking amazing. I'm concerned about how it'll end.

Is the shortened schedule a blessing - being that there are ultimately less games to be endured? Or will the lack of rest between games and the increase of back-to-backs be the straw that broke the camel's Steve's back? Nobody knows. Not even the "Smartest Suits in the Room" know the answer to that, but there is definitely something they can try to do about it, and they did. They brought in two legitimate candidates for the back-up point guard spot.

Hark, the herald point guards sing.

Sebastian Telfair

I'm going to brush off the shaky performance in both the team scrimmage and the 1st preseason game and evaluate Telfair based on a bigger pool of performance - I'll do the same for Ronnie. I don't snap-judge like most of you heathen. Just playing. But for reals.

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Strengths: Good defense, speed, and self-proclaimed pick and roll specialist, nickname: Bassy

Weaknesses: Size and offensive consistency

His work ethic is great and he has a lot of experience in the NBA, but he's been in the league for 7 years on 6 different teams and hasn't been able to pin down a starting job - even when he was on perfect teams to do so. To me that kind of says a bit by itself. When asked, Telfair replies that he feels he just really hasn't had the right opportunity, not only considering teammates but also coaches and styles of play as well, he feels here he has a great opportunity, or even a perfect opportunity to show the NBA and Phoenix Suns fans what he can really do.

So far this preseason he has indeed shown good skill in executing the pick and roll - but has had a hard time pushing the ball up court and dictating the tempo. The key for this position and because of our lineup and our style of play, the Point Guard has to push the tempo and be unselfish with the ball. If Bassy can keep this in his subconscious forefront he'll improve and excel with this team behind Nash.

I hope he does play at his best level and I hope he can at least keep the Nash-to-bench effect to a manageable lull instead of the cavernous drop we've seen in the past. Another concern I have his is his mental concentration - if he does get beat out of the #1 back-up spot by Price, will he hang his head and sulk? Or will he continue to work hard and be ready when his number is called?

Let's keep our eyes peeled.

Ronnie Price

Strengths: Above average defense, athleticism, hatred for the Lakers

Weaknesses: Size and offensive polish

Price is a better defender all around than Telfair, not only because he's a tad bigger - but he has great speed and persistent energy. He's a fly, constantly bothering those he defends, and he's got enough vertical ability and lateral speed that his contests, challenges and blocking ability are legitimate and not just motions which the offensive player can comfortably ignore.

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Former teammate Deron Williams had this to say about Price,

"He's one of those guys who can be ready no matter what. And that's what you've got to love about him," teammates Deron Williams said. "No matter if he plays two minutes or if he plays 20 minutes, he's gonna be ready to play every night." - Deseret News

At this point in the preseason - it sounds as if Ronnie has beaten out Bassy for the #1 back-up spot. I know I said I wouldn't let the scrimmage or the first preseason game weigh much on these reviews, but the Suns coaching staff is indeed factoring in these two games. And if Paul Coro is as good as reading minds as I truly believe he is, there is absolute truth to this.

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Conclusion

Remember a few things. First of all Alvin Gentry has proven that he is a coach who will undoubtedly use his bench. He's also a coach who notices effort and performance. If Price is deemed the #1 back-up now, he'll be that until Telfair can show that he deserves it, and if that's the case, he'll earn it. There will not, or should not be a Vince Carter pity rule for these point guards. Meaning one won't earn minutes simply because he's been an All-star a bijillion times or because he won the dunk competition or because your owner is paying him 17.7 Million dollars to suck buffalo wings and tap butts and high-fives to the opposing team... HAVE FUN DALLAS!!! HAHAHAHA MUAHHAHAHA [Maniacal Laugh]

But seriously - I believe Gentry will use both Telfair and Price a lot, maybe even more so because of the aforementioned Nash health concerns and the shortened season. He'll match them according to the opponent - and Gentry himself will get better at that matchmaking as he continues to learn how both players play their game.

My big question is the same question we had for Goran Dragic.. and for Aaron Brooks... and for any point guard who ever tried to back-up Nash - Will Steve Nash cause them to change their forte's(strengths)?

Will Price and Telfair play to their strengths or will they try to reinvent their wheels because of Steve Nash?

Brooks tried to last year and stunk. Dragic constantly had trouble 'trying too much to be like Steve' - though in our most recent WCF run Dragic put an exclamation point on his own style of play and it helped (along with Dudley and the other bench mobbers) the 2nd unit really create it's own unique identity. That translated to success. Is it the awe of how smooth and great he is that just hypnotizes his back-ups to emulate him and fail? Is it something they just do subconsciously because Nash unknowingly has super telepathic mind-controlling influence? I'll stop there... it's a mystery though indeed.

I implore you all to have great patience with both Telfair and Price. NO ONE will be Steve Nash - there will always be a drop of play when Nash leaves the game. He's the greatest point guard alive. Give these two a chance and have an understanding heart - they are new to this team, to these players, to this style, to this culture - be grateful that we have REAL depth at the point guard position for the first time in a long time. It's not necessarily a bad dilemma to have if we're concerned about whether it will be Ronnie Price or Sebastian Telfair that comes in to relieve Steve Nash.

P.S. - I miss Goran.

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Nice analysis Euty!

I agree, we shouldn’t go into this season expecting either Price or Telfair to run our offense as efficiently as Nash…This is a new system for both of them and even if it wasn’t, it’s hard to come in off the bench and follow one of the greatest to ever do it.

What I do like about Price is his b-ball I.Q. and commitment to playing smart, efficient defense. Bassy can also defend and he has the speed and energy, but I don’t think he possesses the same instincts…nor the size. Price also seems to have a better handle at commanding the offense for now, but it’s still too early to know anything in that regard.

I hope that both Price and Bassy can prove to be capable back-ups for Nash as we will certainly need both of them to help reduce Steve’s playing time in this brutal, compressed schedule.

by 7footer on Dec 21, 2011 9:41 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

I think that Price has the edge over Bassy defensively

I don’t ever remember Sebastian Telfair being described as a defensive-minded player. I could be wrong here. What I have SEEN, though, is Ronnie Price make some sick defensive plays (blocks, steals) before, and he’s also strong enough to match up with guys that are bigger than him.

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by PHXgp on Dec 21, 2011 9:44 PM MST up reply actions  

I like that they have different looks

as in variety is good

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by Eutychus on Dec 21, 2011 10:16 PM MST up reply actions  

great summary, Eutychus

One thing I have to agree with you on is that patience is key. It’ll take time for a lot of guys on this team to get used to the system and playing together, so I’m waiting til we’re at least a couple weeks in to re-evaluate. Neither Price nor Telfair will be Steve Nash, but it is interesting to point out that these guys are both PGs. We’re never going to have to rely on Grant Hill or Jared Dudley (phew) to bring up the ball because we have bodies.

At this point for me, though, they’re just bodies (as creepy as that may sound). What I’d love to see is Ronnie Price become a defensive stopper, and then maybe we can have that defensive mentality with our 2nd unit again. I think that can happen, but it WILL take time, serious time, not just a couple of preseason games.

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by PHXgp on Dec 21, 2011 9:41 PM MST reply actions  

yes, it would be nice for the second unit to have a defensive mentality.

Morris/Lopez/Chill/Brown and Price can all defend. How they defend TOGETHER is a real question.

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by Alex Laugan on Dec 22, 2011 6:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Maniacal laugh.

My favorite part of the new Muppets movie.

Oh and solid breakdown.

by Chris_Coffel on Dec 21, 2011 9:44 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions  

You know I didn't watch that by choice...

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by Eutychus on Dec 21, 2011 10:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Well I did. I thought it was great. The songs were fantastic!

by Chris_Coffel on Dec 21, 2011 11:58 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I wanted to see Sherlock Holmes

But a wife and a 3 year old win every time.

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by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2011 12:01 AM MST up reply actions  

Heard it was goooooood

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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by Airwave on Dec 22, 2011 12:02 AM MST up reply actions  

Me too, I want to see that and MI7 or whatever it is

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by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2011 12:06 AM MST up reply actions  

ah yes, and the Dragon Tattoo movie!

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by Alex Laugan on Dec 22, 2011 6:06 PM MST up reply actions  

I’d fall asleep during that. Guy Ritchie films are always the same thing to me. Style, what little of it he has, over substance. MI4 on the other hand looks great and Brad Bird (director) has yet to let me down yet.

by Chris_Coffel on Dec 22, 2011 12:16 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I just can't stand kids movies anymore

Now that I am not a child…..

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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by Airwave on Dec 22, 2011 12:02 AM MST up reply actions  

It wasn't bad - but I can't say I didn't doze off a few times here and there

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by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2011 12:06 AM MST up reply actions  

my kids are too old now. I kinda miss those kid movies sometimes. Maybe not muppets though.

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by Alex Laugan on Dec 22, 2011 6:07 PM MST up reply actions  

It has a ton of adult humor.

by Chris_Coffel on Dec 22, 2011 12:13 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions  

True

I was kind of just speaking generally on a tandem haha.

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Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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by Airwave on Dec 22, 2011 1:00 AM MST up reply actions  

Not sure if you’re familiar with Flight of the Conchords, but the Muppets is full of that style humor.

by Chris_Coffel on Dec 22, 2011 12:18 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I like FoC - but I'm just not a huge muppets fan

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by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2011 12:20 AM MST up reply actions  

That Muppets movie was honestly the most fun I've had at theatres in a long time

I wanted to see MI4, but Muppets won out, and it was AWESOME

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Dec 22, 2011 11:06 AM MST up reply actions  

wow. maybe I should see it, even if my kids are too old. ;)

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by Alex Laugan on Dec 22, 2011 6:07 PM MST up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind seeing both of them

(Price and Telfair) playing next to each other from time to time. No huge stretches obviously, since that would be a very small back court, but I did read someone say that Price has the ability to contain some 2s, and realistically, how many 2nd unit 2s should be a problem for a capable defender?

I think it would give us that extra look offensively, (hopefully) without sacrificing much defensively to help the bench avoid becoming stagnant.

I’m thinking a 2nd unit of Bassy/Price/Duds/Morris/RoLo – feels pretty balanced to me.

Note: Having Duds in the 2nd unit doesn’t mean he’s not getting starter minutes – I just prefer him off the bench, and I think having a majority of Brown’s minutes next to Nash is a win-win.

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by SuperSteve on Dec 21, 2011 9:53 PM MST reply actions  

The problem is I don't think Duds wants to be on the bench

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by Eutychus on Dec 21, 2011 11:12 PM MST up reply actions  

He definitely wants to start

But that is a goal for every player in the league unless you have motivational issues or something. I don’t think Dudley would be up in arms if he wasn’t starting though if it was truly benefiting the team. I believe I heard him speak about this very subject in an interview (probably from this site since I get my Suns news from here) this season.

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Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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by Airwave on Dec 21, 2011 11:58 PM MST up reply actions  

No doubt he would go along with it...

He’s a stand up guy, but there’s no way he would be okay coming off the bench if somebody he felt he was better than (Brown) was starting in his spot. He would grit his teeth and say he was happy to do whatever but it would eat him and possibly rupture chemistry… but now I’m getting into the -10x probability of a theoretical scenario… not healthy.

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by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2011 12:05 AM MST up reply actions  

That is, of course, where the best for the team part comes in

Because if he thinks he is better than his counterpart then there will be friction. Dudley doesn’t’ seem like the guy to make a scene about it but it could definitely hurt the chemistry somewhat. But still, if they are winning more games with him on then bench rather then not would he be the type to be upset? I don’t really know at this point. I believe Dudley can be a reliable starter for us but we have yet to see how this group clicks as a unit.

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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by Airwave on Dec 22, 2011 12:12 AM MST up reply actions  

all valid points

and make no mistake, I think JD earned his gig in the starting lineup. I feel like Dudley brings stability and reliability, something that among Telfair, Warrick, Pietrus and Lopez is a rarity – I think he’d be more valuable playing with those guys – and Brown, likewise, would benefit from playing mostly with Nash to the point where he is more valuable to the team as a part of that unit.

I think, honestly, if JD is a true 6th man he can embrace that role. In my ideal, he’d still get time with the starters (maybe he can still have the start and just get subbed out early, then back in with the bench?), and would have the lion’s share of minutes.

This is all discounting the likely result of Dudley starting is 25ppg, 8spg and numerous ESPN highlights of his athletic hands. Man they’re athletic.

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by SuperSteve on Dec 22, 2011 2:12 AM MST up reply actions  

But would you start brown over dudz?

Id be ok with dudz being in the 2nd unit if we had a better option at the 2 suck as signing crawford or someone but brown showed in the denver game that hes just gonna chuck up shots.

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by phxpurple on Dec 22, 2011 8:36 AM MST via Android app up reply actions  

I would do whatever helps the team the most

If Dudz can stabilize the bench more and negate the bleeding from when Nash is out then he should be on the bench. If it doesn’t matter when Dudley and Brown play then I would rather see Dudz start because he has earned it. For me, it all depends on how the team meshes and who works best with other players on the court at the time.

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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by Airwave on Dec 22, 2011 2:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh Man

Another year without a decent, or solid, PG, how will we ever survive? Give the rock to Amar’eeeeeeeh crap… This is going to suck…

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by Walter ChronKite on Dec 21, 2011 9:57 PM MST reply actions  

I never said that either of them weren't decent

I actually thing both are decent and provide us good depth

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by Eutychus on Dec 21, 2011 11:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh, I have zero problem with our back-ups.

I was just making, what I thought was, a pretty solid joke. Thanks for setting me straight.

Let me correct myself. The only ‘problem’ I have with the PG scenario is that I already miss the crap out of Z2D2.

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by Walter ChronKite on Dec 21, 2011 11:23 PM MST up reply actions  

my bad, carry on with the jokes :)

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by Eutychus on Dec 21, 2011 11:30 PM MST up reply actions  

The Grifflark needs its own theme music

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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by Airwave on Dec 22, 2011 2:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Found it!

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Dec 22, 2011 3:04 PM MST up reply actions  

The Grifflark's fourth arm.

Its placement down the pants goes a long way to explaining the Grifflark’s low PER.

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by Mike Lisboa on Dec 22, 2011 5:04 PM MST up reply actions  

It looked to me like Bassy was just trying to hard. As you said, he has bounced around a lot and has never been able to really fins his place anywhere. He was probably so excited for the opportunity in a system like PHX’s that he tried really hard to prove he deserves to be here. Hopefully he can calm down and let the game come to him tomorrow.

I was pleasantly surprised by what Price did. He definitely brought the scrappiness he is known for. However, I wouldn’t get too excited about his abilities to run the team on offense. In his career thus far, he has proven himself to be a sub-par shooter and far from a set-up man. 7footer, you said you like his IQ, but I haven’t been impressed with that when I watched him in Utah. Hopefully he’s growing, although he has been around for a while and might be what he is at this point.

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by Omaha Sun on Dec 21, 2011 10:33 PM MST reply actions  

Yeah, I actually meant defensively...

Staying in front of his man and playing smart defense without unnecessary fouls. But yeah, so far on the offensive end I’ve been fairly impressed with Price as well…but as I said it’s still far too early to know anything yet in that respect. I just hope both Price and Bassy prove to be viable backups for us this season.

by 7footer on Dec 21, 2011 11:17 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

When we had success with our second unit...

It was because we played two point guards, Dragic and Barbosa.

When Barbs went away and teams could key on Goran, Goran was exposed and largely ineffective.

Lesson there is that it takes more than one guy to do all the things Nash does by himself.

I think Price and Brooks could bring that Dragic/Barbosa dynamic back when Brooks returns.

Telfair may not accomplish much on the court. But, as we saw in Euty’s recent video, he’s got the coolest ski hat in the Sonoran desert and a high tolerance level for weird questions.

So Price can be the reliable set-up man, Brooks the prolific scorer, and Telfair can give the interviews.

Voila. Instant Steve Nash replacement.

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by suns68 on Dec 21, 2011 11:24 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

weird questions!?

I thought they were amazing :)

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
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by Eutychus on Dec 21, 2011 11:36 PM MST up reply actions  

In retrospect...

I probably should have said “original.”

Enjoyed the hell out of that interview, btw. Keep it up.

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by suns68 on Dec 22, 2011 1:43 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

PS...

You might want to ask Josh Childress some questions about his wanger. Maybe do a photo essay. Seems there was a lot of interest in that topic in yesterday’s postgame thread.

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by suns68 on Dec 22, 2011 1:54 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Whoa i would actually like that combo

An offensive little pocketsize machine and a defender edge PG. love it.

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by Lino Canaan on Dec 22, 2011 6:04 AM MST up reply actions  

Ronnie Price

Strengths: Above average defense, athleticism, hatred for the Lakers

I am sold! But seriously, just hoping these backups can just do enough to give Steve the rest he needs. I am very nervous about how many games are being played in such a short period for our older players and we need the backups to step in and hold down the fort enough so that we aren’t getting blown out when the bench is in.

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Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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by Airwave on Dec 21, 2011 11:54 PM MST reply actions  

Truths!
Steve Nash – the Only Certain Starter
Strengths: Yes.

BAMF goes HAM.

by brian13 on Dec 22, 2011 1:08 AM MST reply actions  

Ronnie Price

His effort on defense, athleticism, motor, and underdog status makes me think of him as a point guard version of Lou Amundson…

and because of that, I am jumping on the Ronnie Price bandwagon. If he solidifies his 2nd unit spot then I’m predicting a Dan Majerle award.

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by brian13 on Dec 22, 2011 1:12 AM MST reply actions  

Excuse my apathy to both of those ´´Quality players´´

But Price is way too limited and so is more Telfair, both guys are 1on1 players, pick up games players, none of them can´t really pass with exactitude, making the offense sloopy, while i have to agree that Price looks like a more realiable backup PG because he seemed more like a defensive piece and slasher when he was on court, and telfair was just another whack-o-loco running hard trying to find someone open when he failed to do so he ended turning over the ball, but he can´t make a 3 when we need it, Price can defend nonetheless, but both lack of confidence and leadership, maybe they just need time, but when Nash is running the offense you can literally listen to his thoughts ´´I am so cool and i am running this bitch´´, you can´t be so passive when being a PG you have to make things happen, and not turnovers..

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by Lino Canaan on Dec 22, 2011 5:58 AM MST reply actions  

whack-o-loco

I love it.

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by Omaha Sun on Dec 22, 2011 3:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Good Analysis Euty...

Thanks thankful to have Nash with us one more season…Let’s Go Suns!!!

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by Daryl Ray on Dec 22, 2011 6:33 AM MST reply actions  

Ronnie Price

This guy is going to be big this year for us. You heard it here first. I like Price so far. I get the impression that he works as hard to scrap like Dudley. He just doesn’t have the JMZ personality.

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by sidepart on Dec 22, 2011 7:38 AM MST reply actions  

Also

Apparently I made this during the lockout?

Never lowercase the SUNS in Phoenix SUNS!

by sidepart on Dec 22, 2011 7:54 AM MST up reply actions   4 recs

Recaedo

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by Lino Canaan on Dec 22, 2011 8:33 AM MST up reply actions  

it’ll will be a luxury to have both Price and Bassy when the grind starts.

AG says Nash may sit out when the schedule becomes crazy and all the b2b’s happen. That assumes Telfair will “get it,” and Price can generate some of his own offense.

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by Wil Cantrell on Dec 22, 2011 8:49 AM MST up reply actions  

this is their best asset to the team

…being warm bodies who can rest Nash and hopefully learn to limit the damage (turnovers!!!)

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by PHXgp on Dec 22, 2011 9:42 AM MST up reply actions  

Why is to hard to pro athletes to do at least the average job ?

Incompetence is ruinning this world :( the thing is just to don´t get so many turnovers…

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by Lino Canaan on Dec 22, 2011 10:59 AM MST up reply actions  

haha easier said than done....

competent pros are hard to come by!

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by PHXgp on Dec 22, 2011 11:51 AM MST up reply actions  

Haha wow

That is awesome. You also could have done it from the part Luke sees his face inside the Vader helmet and instead sees Stern! hahahah that would have been sweet

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by Airwave on Dec 22, 2011 2:08 PM MST up reply actions  

What to you get when you combine a Price and a bassy

a Prissy. That could mean a couple of things. A femmie personality or something very expensive (see Pricey). Someone a little more talented at photoshop should make something like the Griffark with this.

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by Suns Fan For Life on Dec 22, 2011 10:19 AM MST reply actions  

Strength in numbers?

Great write-up, Euty, but I’m not convinced that our backup PG position is in good hands at all. Sorry to be negative here, but Price is a terrible offensive player by any measure, and Telfair isn’t much better. And we’re talking about two players in their mid-20s. How much more improvement can be expected? I guess having two means we can hope at least one of them delivers something, but this is still our team’s biggest hole, IMO.

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by East Bay Ray on Dec 22, 2011 11:30 AM MST reply actions  

Suns 2011 guard aquisitions

We made some quality aquisitions in brown and price, telfair….not so much. Adding these guys to our roster this season should help our bench depth,but it can’t realistically improve us enough to beat out the other western conference powers like the spurs,thunder,grizzlies,blazers and most recently the clippers.

Our off-season aquisitions were solid while the above mentioned teams did better. We have no idea wether brooks will be back with the suns and we still don’t have a true “starting caliber” pointguard to take over when steve chooses to leave or retire. What lawson did the other night was proof of that.

It’d be great if we could land westbrook or another big name free agent, but i remain unconvinced (based largely on sarver’s reputation) that any marquee free agent would be willing to sign with the suns,no matter how much money we can offer. We need to keep our eyes on the 2012 draft and all the potential stars available.

Particularly at positions of need like pointguard- Teague(my least favorite choice as he’s all potential and no polish)kabongo-proclaimed by scouts to be another rondo, or kendall marshall(my favorite choice as a future suns pick( like nash, is a pass first pointguard that makes everyone else better).

There are also some great wing prospects like michael kidd-gilchrest, brad beal and terrence ross. We need to draft a star or two and everything else will fall into place, including star free-agent aquisitions.

by jay humphries on Dec 22, 2011 3:25 PM MST reply actions  

just remember that no player in their right mind wanted to go to the Clippers either… well, maybe that’s not the best analogy given their lack of playoffs for so long… never mind…

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by Alex Laugan on Dec 22, 2011 6:13 PM MST up reply actions  

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