The Phoenix Suns Lose Ugly To The Philadelphia 76ers 103-83: Game Recap
by 7footer on Dec 28, 2011 9:48 PM MST
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PrintThe Phoenix Suns responded to a heartbreaking loss in their season opener to the New Orleans Hornets with an uninspired, sloppy, and downright awful performance against the Philadelphia 76ers in which they lost 103-83.
The Suns had a decent start to the game with Grant Hill hitting his shots and Channing Frye recording eight rebounds in the beginning of the first quarter. However, once Nash left the game the offense quickly ground to a halt and the Sixers began to pull away fast...and it went downhill from there.
Read on after the jump for more doom and gloom...
The Suns shot barely over 30% in the first half and scored only 34 points equaling a season low from last year when they scored the same amount against both the Orlando Magic and the Dallas Mavericks. The problem is, this is only the second game with 64 remaining against much tougher opponents.
After halftime, the starting unit responded to an unproductive, lackluster first half by coming out cold and missing their first nine attempts to start the second half. The Sixers scored the first 19 points to quickly extend their lead to nearly 30 points before the Suns finally hit their first shot more than halfway through the third quarter.
The Suns played very lackadaisically throughout most of the game, with little sense of urgency or purpose except for a few exceptions. Suns' head coach Alvin Gentry seemed largely unable to motivate most of the players or find a good combination to play on the floor together, and appeared resigned to finish out the game with whoever he could find to play with any energy whatsoever.
The fourth quarter saw the Suns bench at least attempt to score some points and climb back in the game, but it was too little too late as the Sixers cruised to an easy victory.
Bright spots:
- Hakim Warrick was the first off the bench tonight after registering a DNP in the season opener. Warrick scored 14 pts off the bench on 7-13 shooting and at times seemed like the only player on the floor who could score.
- Ronnie Price got off to a slow start in the first quarter but picked it up in the second quarter and in the second half of the game to finish with 16 pts and 3 ast.
- Markieff Morris didn't enter into the game until midway into the second quarter, but he still found a way to make a difference with his rebounding, hustling, and scoring, especially in the second half of the game. Morris followed up a nice first game as a Suns with another solid game in his second appearance scoring 9 pts and grabbing 3 rbs.
- Grant Hill got off to a nice start in the first quarter, then disappeared, but then reappeared again finishing with 14 points in just over 26 minutes.
Dark Spots:
- Steve Nash shot 2-11 finishing the game with 4 pts, 6 T.O.'s, 4 P.F.'s, and only 1 ast. This was uncharacteristically bad game for Nash that makes me wonder if there is something else going on that we don't realize.
- Marcin Gortat finished the game with only 4 pts and shot 1-6 from the field. On a positive note he did grab 8 rbs in only 18 min of play, but we need more production from our starting center.
- Jared Dudley scored 0 pts, yes, 0 pts on 0-2 shooting in nearly 25 minutes of play. I don't even know what to say about this.
In other news...Paul Coro of the AZ Republic reported that the Suns worked out Michael Redd along with Ime Udoka and Gilbert Brown on Tuesday to try and fix some of their offensive woes. Expect someone to be brought in soon to help address the Suns' sputtering offense...Stay tuned.
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The Mayans were half right
Planet Orange ends in 2012.
by Toon Army Sun on Dec 28, 2011 9:51 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
I honestly believe you are going to regret that desire.
With Redd we still lose by 20 points. It would just be 113-93 instead of 103-83
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Sorry, but disagree
He is no worse on defense than Duds and is a better shooter.
BigQ about his knees – if they are OK he used to be a top10 SG in the NBA.
If we could get him for cheap – it could be steal.
Feed the cutter!!!
by Piotr Szczesniak on Dec 29, 2011 7:40 AM MST up reply actions
No worse on defense?
Redd was bad before all his injury woes, now he’ll have no chance to keep up with any legitimate SG in the league. And, it’s useless to talk about what he’s done in the past as it’s not going to happen again. Quit fooling yourself he’s some sort of savior – there is a reason no other team hasn’t already nabbed him.
Because it's a gamble
on a guy 3 years removed from playing b-ball and two huge knee surgeries.
I know, I admit, the chances are slim.
But IF he is healthy – I don’t see any problems in getting a 32 year old athlete back into game-shape. This is what he did all his life – play ball. And he is motivated to come back as well.
I think it will be either heaven or hell – it turns out his knees are out of order and he walks away or they med staff make another BAMF out of him.
Also – back in his best years he was never asked to perform on defense. The bucks put 50% of the offensive load on him, its tough to ask the guy to defend well at the same time. There probably is 10-15 guys like that in the entire league (Kobe, Bron, Durant, Howard to name a few).
Also – FUCK DEFENSE. We have Steve at the helm and he is a terrible defender – still makes the team what it is. We can make up for Redd with good rotation and inside presence of Hammer/ RoLo.
Feed the cutter!!!
by Piotr Szczesniak on Dec 30, 2011 5:02 PM MST up reply actions
I think Redd is going to be a challenge.
It’s time to see what Mr. Miyagi is really made of.
Never lowercase the SUNS in Phoenix SUNS!
Start Morris.
Bring in Michael Redd. My faith in Channing Frye and Dudley as starters are quickly dwindling. I think they’d be better off on the bench, giving us a boost when Nash sits.
We need to somehow trade for a young, talented SF. Like Nicholas Batum.
We stunk...
We are a scoring team that can’t score, no easy baskets in transition, Brown is terrible, and we look slow. Nash needs burn with the more athletic second unit and push the pace…I don’t know…not looking good and putrid defense. Ugh…
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by Snowbird on Dec 28, 2011 10:07 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
Yeah, he really did.
And his black eye made me sad.
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by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 28, 2011 10:51 PM MST up reply actions
Surrounding him year after year of mediocrity...
caught up with him. He was awful tonight. Cheers. *clink
"Who are we kidding?..."
I don't have time for clink...
Just straight guzzle, baby…
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!
You're learning, young Padawan..
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!
What the hell's a "sip...?"
Is that when you suck down less than a a pint with each gulp…?
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!
Damn, Damn, damn...!
(A lot of crying and cursing…)
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!
Cheers, glug, break bottle
then hold broken bottle in menacing fashion and invite biggest meanest dude in the bar to a fight
Enough Bitchin' lets do this
Especially when we're behind the wheel of power equipment,,,
My neighbor’s yard will never be the same…!
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!
I've never understood angry drunks
If drinking makes you angry WHY DRINK?
Enough Bitchin' lets do this
Ya, it is suppose to loosen you up...
they’re wasting a good buzz getting all hyped up.
"Who are we kidding?..."
I'm so proud of you guys...
I feel like such a good mentor…
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!
Sun God...
deity of drunken optimism. Players will receive +10 tolerance to any type of loss.
"Who are we kidding?..."
thank god for BSOTS
before BSOTS I’d go to bed with a scowl and wake up with it stuck on my face…at least now i can laugh it off
Enough Bitchin' lets do this
by 2NASHTY on Dec 28, 2011 11:15 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
This is very true.
I used to get so angry after a Suns loss. Now, I can let it out on here, and after like 30 minutes, I don’t even feel upset anymore.
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by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 28, 2011 11:15 PM MST up reply actions
I'm very glad I found SB Nation and this site.
After the Lakers finale in 2010, I went upstairs and drank gin from the bottle in the shower and just moaned for an hour. My fraternity brothers recorded it from outside the bathroom and played it at the next meeting with the caption: “This is what being a Suns fan sounds like”
by johnjmurphy17 on Dec 28, 2011 11:17 PM MST up reply actions
Cheers.Clink.Glug.
Pleased to be here, gents.
by johnjmurphy17 on Dec 28, 2011 11:21 PM MST up reply actions
I've been there (a lot)
My wife used to just put me in the garage…Now I am to the point I pass out freely in every room of the house…
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!
Hate to drink and run but...
Heres to another season of Suns & BSOTS madness we gone peace.
Clunk, Glug, Fade away.
"Who are we kidding?..."
Currently...
everything about this team except for Morris, Lopez, and Price is sad.
Once you go Nash, you won't wanna go back.
Correction...
Siler makes me laugh…
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!
RELEASE THE PUDGEMONSTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Enough Bitchin' lets do this
by 2NASHTY on Dec 28, 2011 10:54 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
If Redd signs then what happens to Dudley and Brown in the rotation?
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
brown will be out
Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
~Jack Burton, "Big Trouble in Little China"
by u_must_chill on Dec 28, 2011 10:11 PM MST up reply actions
Redd
The guy hasn’t played in years…to expect him to come in and make a different right away is a stretch. Maybe they will catch lightening in a bottle with him but don’t bet on it.
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 28, 2011 10:13 PM MST up reply actions
Probably right Seth...
I think a lot of this offensive offense is due to the timing the Nash needs to run the offense. It’s just not there yet and it’s probably because of the compressed training camp/pre-season. But we also need a wing scorer that can keep us in a ball game…I just don’t see many other options out there. I believe the Suns will improve but at what point during the season…?unless the Suns want to tank the season, they may have to take a chance on a guy like redd sooner rather than later…
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!
Agreed. It’s gotta be him. Other options are not so good: Arenas, JR Smith, B. Roy (retired?), Eddie House……
by troglodytes on Dec 28, 2011 10:59 PM MST up reply actions
I’d rather try and talk B. Roy out of retirement. He hasn’t officially retired yet as far as I know.
by Chris_Coffel on Dec 28, 2011 11:21 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Nope. But I do have a gut feeling that a few years down the line he attempts a comeback. But certainly not happening this year.
by Chris_Coffel on Dec 28, 2011 11:29 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
I wish
I really do…..he was great , and a joy to watch, but I think he gave his all and his body couldn’t keep up.
Enough Bitchin' lets do this
The reason he retired is his doctors told him if he kept playing he wouldn't be able to walk in the future.
That’s how bad his knees are
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Pssh, Portland doctors. What do they know?
by Chris_Coffel on Dec 28, 2011 11:52 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
I have no problem with Arenas
… maybe a headcase who threatens teammates with gun violence is exactly the spark we need!
by johnjmurphy17 on Dec 28, 2011 11:31 PM MST up reply actions
Arenas > Redd, but neither is any kind of answer.
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aright...
so who IS the answer? I mean, affordable, possible answer?
I don’t see why Redd if healthy cannot be a spark – almost the entire Bucks offence ran through him for 5 years on 45%+ shooting.
the guy didn’t play for almost 3 years – if his knees finally got better he still has a lot in the tank.
Feed the cutter!!!
by Piotr Szczesniak on Dec 29, 2011 7:53 AM MST up reply actions
the answer is next summer, or via blow-it-up trade (but then you’re just trading one problem for another).
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Let's just bring in Redd and Arenas and watch the team destruct with gusto
It would be more entertaining than this, and hey, if we catch lightning in a bottle twice….
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
At this point,
at least Redd might be able to make a jumpshot. No one on the roster now has been able to do that yet.
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with his bad knees, the Suns would just station him on a wing on the offensive end and have him shoot jumpers from there. Defense would be 4 on 5 though, whether he moved off the spot or not.
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Well, Redd certainly can’t shoot any worse than what we’ve seen already, right?
by Chris_Coffel on Dec 28, 2011 11:31 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Maybe Majerle will suit up?
by Chris_Coffel on Dec 28, 2011 11:33 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Drunk haze Suns line-up.
Nash
Redd in a bottle
Hill
Morris
Gortat (with Jarron Collins minutes just to keep his ego up)
Price
Dudley
Warrick or Chilly (i put chilly in there cause i hate wasting money)
Frye
FroLo
"Who are we kidding?..."
Umm...
what the hell happened?
Actually, I don’t even want to know. I’m in a bad enough mood since I have to write a recap about a Creighton loss for the first time.
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76ers happened...
plus our shooting was not sunny and of course you don’t improve your defense over night saying. But yea, the sixers were quick and very talented.
"Who are we kidding?..."
If it makes you feel better, I saw a guy at the game wearing a Creighton sweatshirt,
and I thought of you.
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by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 28, 2011 10:17 PM MST up reply actions
I saw your facebook post about loving being in the arena and thought of you.
I feel the same way about the Link. Then the game happened and I forgot about that feeling.
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I've been thinking that
we haven’t been “really good” since 07-08. 09-10 was a great season with a good playoff run, but that team wasn’t as talented as Suns teams in the past, I think they just worked harder and gave more effort, and now we’re just that team with terrible versions of Amare and J-Rich, and a team that gives zero effort.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
I think 07/08 was our last team with "elite" talent
09/10 was a great, balanced squad. This team died during the 2010 offseason.
It’s crazy to think how much I took 04/05, 05/06, 06/07 for granted….
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
yup...but
what evs, as a relativity new fan, I’m learning what it’s all about sticking with your team through thick and thin.
Enough Bitchin' lets do this
by 2NASHTY on Dec 28, 2011 10:43 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
if the Knicks fans could hang on through Isiah Thomas...
we can make it through this…!
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!
Uh..I'm not ready for all that...
How bout a group text message…?
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!
You'd get confused by all the trailer parks close to where I alive...
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!
Still waiting for the COPS crew to show up...
whutchu gonna do, whutchu gonna do when they come fo u.
"Who are we kidding?..."
I feel better now
and hey guys…. at least we’re not Bobcats fans!
by johnjmurphy17 on Dec 28, 2011 11:13 PM MST up reply actions
You're well on your way to being a BSOTS basket case...
Tell your wife your be “back” around April or May…
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!
Sticking with the team is easy if there's some hope
That 29-53 season in 03/04 was no cupcake but at least we had Amare as a sophomore, rookie LB, young JJ and Matrix, etc.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I don't buy that
I thought our 08-09 and 209-10 teams were just as talented. Nash, Amar’e, J-Rich and Shaq. That team would have made the playoffs and finished with over 50 wins had Amar’e not gone down.
The 09-10 team, we lost Shaq, but gained a lot of good role players who combined to forge a great bench. It just took a while for that to happen. Don’t forget they started 13-4 and then finished 28-7. Those were dominant records. The 12-18 stretch in between was just due to teams adjusting to Frye and Lopez’s and Barbs injuries. Once Lopez was incorporated into the starting lineup, we started to role and became very good and confident.
Those were very talented teams that just suffered through some injuries and chemistry/coaching problems.
These past two seasons we haven’t been talented.
Don't trade Dudley!
Translation...?
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Poignant?
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I try not to question it too much.
Just accept it.
Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!
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i didn't see any of the game because i took my wife out for her birthday
but for anyone who saw it: is it possible to explain (what sounds like) the total lack of effort, hustle, motivation, and execution?
Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
~Jack Burton, "Big Trouble in Little China"
You answered your own question...t
the total lack of effort, hustle, motivation, and execution?
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!
Watching him play was really tonight.
Watching everyone was weird. It was like there was no hustle, no sense if urgency.
That’s why it was hard for me to find optimism in the team tonight.
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by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 28, 2011 10:46 PM MST up reply actions
Oops, should've said " really weird."
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by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 28, 2011 10:47 PM MST up reply actions
Typos are typing errors.
Your mistakes go way beyond mere typos.
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by Omaha Sun on Dec 28, 2011 11:53 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
it was tough to see
even our heart and hustle player looked lost in the wilderness.
Enough Bitchin' lets do this
still dejected from mondays loss...
the in and out fade and gordon last shot. double bummer.
"Who are we kidding?..."
Yeah... For awhile I just stopped watching.
And I hardly missed anything.
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by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 28, 2011 10:50 PM MST up reply actions
word
"I'm a nobody." - Steve Nash in 1997
by PHXSunsRunNGun on Dec 28, 2011 11:05 PM MST up reply actions
From where i am sitting...
Nash is becoming predictable (everyone knows he is going to kick out to someone), then our shots were not falling while the Sixers were killing it in the lane outside the lane from the nosebleed… i am over exaggerate. But they were just too damn good for our Suns version of effort defense.
Then the team just went on a shooting slump. Shots were falling short, hitting only the rim. I still for the life of me don’t get while some of the Suns players are still slippin on the floor. How much are new shoes for these guys.
Nash sucked. Hill BAMF sucked. Frye Sucked. Dudley hustle but offensively sucked. Gortat didnt play as much, he sucked. Morris was bangin. FroLo was good. Shannon sucked. Price was good but not enough. Telfair shot was fallin but it was garbage time.
"Who are we kidding?..."
I was curious about the slipping, too
Hill fell down twice in a minute in the 1st. It was bizarre to watch. I couldn’t figure out what the hell was happening, especially when it didn’t seem to be affecting the Sixers at all.
We have a sticky pad (it stood out tonight because they put it right in front of the scorer’s table instead of by the bench… plus the slipping), I don’t understand what the heck it was…
by johnjmurphy17 on Dec 28, 2011 10:48 PM MST up reply actions
Thinking too much + moving too fast = uncoordination, imbalance.
Or they have worn out their shoes from hard practice.
"Who are we kidding?..."
The fact that "Suns" and "Moving Too Fast" are in the same thread
is very, very depressing. The 7SOL Suns never, ever would have even considered the idea of “moving too fast,”…. and they certainly didn’t think!
I might join you gentlemen in the drinking conversation above…. you’ve put me over the edge
by johnjmurphy17 on Dec 28, 2011 11:07 PM MST up reply actions
7sol had some rhythm to it...
they maybe fast and chaotic but it was organized. free flowin. like a humming bird flittering through from one flower to another.
"Who are we kidding?..."
It was beautiful
but I don’t think speed, especially too much of it, was ever the issue. Now it looks like we couldn’t run a fast break if three of the other team’s players passed out.
There was a stretch in the 3rd when one of the Sixers went down and we had a 5 on 4… and didn’t convert. What…..
by johnjmurphy17 on Dec 28, 2011 11:39 PM MST up reply actions
Noone is attackin the rim...
except for Price and Hak. We just don’t have the talent. Shannon can’t dribble penetrate. He stunk.
ok i’m really done.
"Who are we kidding?..."
I wish I could...
I don’t think even Gentry could answer that question at the moment.
In my opinion, it seemed like once the team got down, the starters especially just gave up altogether. Why that’s happening after only the second game of the season is beyond me…but that can’t be a good sign.
by 7footer on Dec 28, 2011 10:22 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Well at least we're consistent
at losing.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
I don't know what to say about what just happened.
In the third quarter I took to Twitter with a lot of pessimism, and then got accused of not being a true fan, which was cool.
By the 4th quarter, I just started watching Paul Coro work on his article. And it was very interesting, actually.
I don’t really have anything to say about what happened out there tonight. We all watched the Suns get positively embarrassed and there’s too much that I don’t feel like re-visiting right now.
So, um, yeah… Go Suns.
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by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 28, 2011 10:15 PM MST reply actions
It'll get better DIM....
Suns always find a way to right the ship…stay encouraged….
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!
by Daryl Ray on Dec 28, 2011 10:19 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Well I am a realist. Tonight the Sun’s sucked and lost.
Pessimists would say the rest of the season is will be an abomination.
Optimist are in denial.
"Who are we kidding?..."
by Larfleeze on Dec 28, 2011 10:24 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
It's always better on the bright side...
Reality sucks…
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Amen brotha...
on my third bottle as we speak. Still lookin forward to the next game.
"Who are we kidding?..."
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If you could watch Coro you must have had some nice seats!
I was in the nosebleeds. I went to this game and the home opener since these are the only games I’ll be in the country for.
I’m kind of depressed now.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
They were extremely nice - I'm very blessed to have the opportunity to sit in these seats.
Paul Coro just exudes cool. It’s fun to watch the media.
And I’m sorry the Suns didn’t win for you! :(
I hope you at least enjoyed being at the games!
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by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 28, 2011 10:27 PM MST up reply actions
I sat next to cbssports.com's Jeff Goodman today.
Nice guy. Definitely knows basketball.
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by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 28, 2011 10:44 PM MST up reply actions
I didn't have a chance to see the whole game
but by looking at the box score Dudley did terrible, Frye did terrible, Nash did terrible, Gortat did terrible, Hill did average, Warrick did well, Price did well, Telfair did well, Morris did pretty well, Lopez did okay, Brown did okay and Childress did nothing.
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The whole bench was pretty good and the starters sucked beyond suck.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Dec 28, 2011 11:34 PM MST up reply actions
IMO Childress will be amnestied at the end of the season, he can't score, he can't defend, in short, he's useless
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by jatrex4suns on Dec 29, 2011 12:12 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
I thought they should have done it this offseason personally.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Dec 29, 2011 1:32 AM MST up reply actions
there was no benefit this past offseason, at least on spending. And Chilly’s attitude (last year at least) was too good to just release
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Look on the Bright Side!
Yes, we may have gotten thrashed at home, but at least…umm… damn, I got nothing. Where is that bottle of Southern Comfort?
by Bostonian Suns Fan on Dec 28, 2011 10:31 PM MST reply actions
Rookie Minutes
All the KTAR gents could think of in the fourth quarter was that darn it, there is some young, inexperienced blood getting some game minutes.
SHAZAM!
by johnjmurphy17 on Dec 28, 2011 10:52 PM MST up reply actions
There will be no tacos this year.
by Chris_Coffel on Dec 28, 2011 10:43 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
I didn't even think about this.
Honestly, I don’t like Jack in the Box Tacos, so I never utilized my tickets for that purpose anyways, but the main point of this statement makes me feel sad.
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by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 28, 2011 11:14 PM MST up reply actions
The main point for me is that I now have to pay a dollar for tacos. And I love their tacos. Haha.
by Chris_Coffel on Dec 28, 2011 11:22 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
I'm sorry.
It does also make me sad for those who do eat the tacos.
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by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 28, 2011 11:23 PM MST up reply actions
We shouldn’t have to pay a dollar. It’s not fair.
by Chris_Coffel on Dec 28, 2011 11:31 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Jack in the Box Tacos are amazing.
If you haven’t tried their egg rolls – YOU MUST. They are equally delicious.
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I know you don't participate in such activities, Euty
But JB tacos and egg rolls are awesome at around 2AM after a night of drinking.
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by East Bay Ray on Dec 29, 2011 10:38 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
I can only imagine...
Though I have had them at 2AM after a crazy night of LAN Partying!
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What the hell kind of place is Jack in the Box anyway?
They offer tacos AND egg rolls?
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by phxpurple on Dec 29, 2011 5:05 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
And burgers and grilled cheese and churros and breakfast and everything you’ll ever need 24 hours a day. It’s heaven.
by Chris_Coffel on Dec 29, 2011 10:12 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Not much to say about this game.
I don’t expect the team to be very good this year but I do expect the team to try, to give effort, to care. We can lose by 20, 30, 40, whatever and I can live with if I know the team at least played with a little pride. Tonight there was none of that aside from a few brief stretches and a few players.
Frye seemed to try early, but couldn’t get a shot to fall. After that he went unnoticed.
Warrick gave a pretty strong effort. Didn’t seem to hang his head at all about not playing last game.
Morris again went out and battled. He fights for rebounds and loose balls.
Lopez played pretty solid. Better than the box score will indicate I think, although he seemed to struggle a lot in the first half.
Price looked good, but most of his damage came in garbage time, so not much you can make of it.
And Mr. Orng is still a tool.
by Chris_Coffel on Dec 28, 2011 10:51 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
I love watching Morris hustle after balls
He looks like the kids in baseball who still sprint around the bases after homeruns.
by johnjmurphy17 on Dec 28, 2011 10:54 PM MST up reply actions
steve kerr is smart
for bailing on this franchise
Do you not remember the famous firestevekerr.com?
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
that is conveniently forgotten by most. Kerr has an excellent sense of timing.
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Could this have been Nash's absolute worst game as a Phoenix Sun?
"I'm a nobody." - Steve Nash in 1997
by PHXSunsRunNGun on Dec 28, 2011 10:58 PM MST reply actions
I'm pretty sure he had better performances as a rookie than tonight...
Once you go Nash, you won't wanna go back.
yeah i'm pretty sure he never got a chance to shoot 11 times as a rookie.
And even if he did, he would probably had made more than 2 of those shots.
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by PHXSunsRunNGun on Dec 28, 2011 11:03 PM MST up reply actions
I feel like there's probably been worse.
But I bet that this is up there in at least the Top 5.
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by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 28, 2011 11:01 PM MST up reply actions
I don't know, it's hard to top 2 for 11 FG, 6 turnovers and a minus 22 in 17 minutes.
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by PHXSunsRunNGun on Dec 28, 2011 11:04 PM MST up reply actions
That's true.
I love Steve Nash, but man… that was awful.
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by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 28, 2011 11:06 PM MST up reply actions
Nash did it in purpose...
he is setting the bar low for the backup PG, so their stat line don’t look too bad.
"Who are we kidding?..."
by Larfleeze on Dec 28, 2011 11:06 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
always such an unselfish guy...
"I'm a nobody." - Steve Nash in 1997
by PHXSunsRunNGun on Dec 28, 2011 11:07 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
exactly. That guy just gives and gives...
"Who are we kidding?..."
by Larfleeze on Dec 28, 2011 11:08 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
This team is not very talented
so what they don’t have in talent they should make up for in effort, but no, they’re effortless too.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
"Hustle beats Talent when Talent doesn't Hustle"
But when a team has no talent OR hustle…. well, then you’ve got our beloved Suns tonight.
I can’t really get over the fact that we made the SIXERS look like friggin’ world beaters. Ugh. This could be an ugly 64 games coming up.
what in the h...
I didn’t see the game, but after seeing the box-score, reading the recaps, seeing the low-lights, and reading 7-footer’s post, I really wonder if something happened before the game. Something bad.
Was there a fight in the locker room? Did they discuss a trade option with Nash? I mean- I have NEVER seen Nash throw errant passes like that- at least not more than once in a game. But two in a row???
That game looked like some really weird junk. Is the team simply imploding??
Grant Hill for prez.
by sun-arc on Dec 28, 2011 11:15 PM MST via mobile reply actions
I'm curious about the locker room too
we looked depressed. Like, oddly so. Nash especially. I’m not sure what happened but I think you’re onto something regarding this defeat running deeper than the game itself.
by johnjmurphy17 on Dec 28, 2011 11:19 PM MST up reply actions
well, to be fair
7ftr mentions the idea in the original post above. But it sure makes a lot of sense. I’ve never seen Nash so un-interested in anything in my life. And I’ve been a fan of his since he was drafted. I don’t remember him having a worse game, but I really don’t remember this attitude.
Grant Hill for prez.
by sun-arc on Dec 28, 2011 11:45 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
That attitude usually comes when someone has lost all hope and has nothing to live/play for.
Don't trade Dudley!
Nash could have possibly just had a bad day
Or he really has lost all hope in this team and therefore has nothing left to play for. Still, I think he’ll do his best to bounce back, but sometimes when a person is in that state, their best isn’t that great.
Don't trade Dudley!
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“You would have a hard time remembering a Phoenix Suns offense look so anemic, abysmal, appalling and atrocious.”
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by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 28, 2011 11:18 PM MST reply actions
Not comforting at all...
But at least we have nowhere to go but up..Let’s go Sus.>>!
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!
Morris will be the shining light in what shall be a season that is almost lost.
Getting smashed by the Nuggets twice had me on edge before the season opener. The loss to the Hornets broke my heart because if we couldn’t beat a team who lost their starting PF and PG we are going to be in real trouble.
I will not jump ship or jump on any other bandwagon. I love the Suns and i’ll follow this team into lottery pick hell if need be. But it’s clear what we are now.
We won’t play defense, Our back up SF and C are our starting SG and PF respectfully, Our best players are 37 and 39. Childress may never fit the style of game we play. (By no means am i blaming Childress for our poor start).
Again i’m not trying to bag the Suns or say it’s too late but that’s what i see at the moment and we don’t have time to wait for it to come together. It’s a short brutal season that’s only going to get harder.
Yes, i do love the Suns and pray that they will go 64-2.
I’m going to keep watching this in a desperate attempt to feel better
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
And this
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
i feel sick watching that video
that season we just KNEW that we had an all-NBA starting PF/C and an all-NBA starting SG on our team for the next ten years. i hate Robert Sarver. he has ruined the NBA for me. watching Nash so depressed on this team makes me sad
Shot out the dark ..
we should somehow convince the Raptors to trade us Jerryd Bayless. We need a legit 6th man that can score again. Like a Leandro Barbosa.
The good news is...
We enough to be able keep Nash AND go through a rebuilding process!! Yippee!!
"I'm a nobody." - Steve Nash in 1997
by PHXSunsRunNGun on Dec 28, 2011 11:31 PM MST reply actions
*suck enough
"I'm a nobody." - Steve Nash in 1997
by PHXSunsRunNGun on Dec 28, 2011 11:33 PM MST up reply actions
I stopped watching at half time.
Nash might have played horribly tonight, but at least he wasn’t 0-13 tonight like ballhog Westbrook was. He officially joins the list of 4 or 5 players who’s gotten 0-13…which ironically includes VC on the list.
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i'm scratching my head trying to think of teams in the NBA that we could beat right now
maybe the warriors if we get them all drunk first?
Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
~Jack Burton, "Big Trouble in Little China"
If they keep losing
Don’t expect our FO to just sit there and do nothing. A trade will need to be made, and we could possibly see a combination of Lopez/Frye/Brown or Gortat/Frye/Brown get traded for a scoring stud. That’s only if Lopez and Morris keep up their surprisingly impressive play. I just hope they make the right move.
Frye is a very streaky shooter. His shot will start fallin. I like the 8 rebounds he got though. At least that means he’s still a decent player.
Don't trade Dudley!
so here's a question:
at what point in time will gentry begin to be on the hot seat? or is he there already?
Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
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by u_must_chill on Dec 28, 2011 11:46 PM MST up reply actions
I think he finishes the year at least.
by Chris_Coffel on Dec 28, 2011 11:49 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
He'll likely finish this season out.
I know our FO has a plan to get not pick up any big contracts, so we can make a move for a FA next off-season, but I don’t think they’ll be able to wait if the team keeps losing like this. I really do think these losses are going to pile up. The plan was to compete for the 8th seed, but I doubt we’ll even be that good.
I’m afraid our FO thought this team could be better than they are. I understand that line of thought too. I mean we added Morris, a healthy Lopez and got rid of a couple bad players. However, we have to factor in the age of Nash and Hill. They get a little worse each year and they’re the two players that carry this team on both sides of the court. I think this is the season it will get to the point to where improvements from other role players won’t be enough. We need more talent, and we need good talent and sacrifices have to be made to get it. I’m prepared to say good bye to Dudley if that is the case.
Don't trade Dudley!
He should go when Nash and Hill do
which, unfortunately, should be soon. If we’re going to do this “rebuilding” thing, I’d rather start it sooner rather than later.
by johnjmurphy17 on Dec 29, 2011 12:01 AM MST up reply actions
It's unfortunate that we're all in a "Give up on the season" mood
and we could just be overreacting, but at the same time I hope we’re not. I hope this is the real deal and that our team really is this bad because it’s time this franchise stops treading water and picks up where they left off when they traded Ama’re and then failed to replace him with another star.
Don't trade Dudley!
by Beavis 25 on Dec 29, 2011 12:05 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I absolutely agree.
I want us to rebuild, legitimately, and soon. It’s almost like we’re still in this bizarre post 7SOL hangover malaise. Even with Gentry’s team in 09-10, it was like this shell of a Suns team that was still desperately clinging on to those things that made it great (maybe I’m reading into it a bit…).
Basically, what I’m saying is that with the exception of the Porter hiccup, we haven’t seen a legitimate top to bottom overhaul of the franchise since Marburry left and Nash came back. There have been changes, some significant (obviously DiAntoni to Gentry, JJ, Q, Marion, and Ama’re leaving, and Shaq and Hill coming in), but we haven’t really seen a serious “we’re gonna blow it up and start from scratch” since about 2002 when we got Ama’re with #7… it’s time
by johnjmurphy17 on Dec 29, 2011 12:11 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Sparknotes: Trade Nash and Hill, get new coach
… maybe update the logo and typeface or something? It worked at the beginning of the decade
by johnjmurphy17 on Dec 29, 2011 12:13 AM MST up reply actions
I’m not in the give up the season mode yet, I’m just frustrated that the team didn’t try. If this is the effort we’re going to continue to get though, then yeah, I’d prefer just blow it all up right now. Get it over with.
I have a soft spot for Gentry though and would hate to see him go so soon despite his flaws.
by Chris_Coffel on Dec 29, 2011 12:13 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
I'm not ready to give up on Gentry even if we do blow things up.
The talent of this team is just very, very low. We have one player that could be considered a legitimate star and he’s 37. The rest are role players ranging from awful to above average. I’m not really disappointed at the lack of effort, but at our FO for thinking they could compete for the playoffs if all they did was draft Morris and then sign Telfair and Brown. Yeah, the team could show more effort, but I think a lot of these guys just weren’t ready for the season to start and need more time to get into game shape. At the same time, I don’t want Nash and Hill to wear themselves out each night when an 8th seed is a hopeless case.
Don't trade Dudley!
I agree with most that. I think rebuilding with Gentry as coach would be good. I think he’s good with younger players.
Monday I thought they played with effort. Tonight it felt like they didn’t care. I get they may not be ready, but they still need to try.
by Chris_Coffel on Dec 29, 2011 12:25 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
I think they tried for very small stretches.
by Chris_Coffel on Dec 29, 2011 12:31 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
and, really, hate to say it, but VC had more talent than anyone we picked up. Even sucking as hard as he did, he had more talent than Brown does, and Brooks is better than Bassy/Price in many ways. So- in that sense we may have even less talent than last year.
So, then, another massive trade this year, or just wait it out for being 14th in the west and a decent pick in the draft?
Grant Hill for prez.
by sun-arc on Dec 29, 2011 12:07 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
He would really help right now. At the very least he’d be fun to watch.
by Chris_Coffel on Dec 29, 2011 12:15 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Hey do any of you super optimistic folks want to pretend to make me feel good about whatever that was?
What a disgusting performance by a ton of below average talent and old guys. That was positively unwatchable and I’d expect there’s a lot more where that came from.
To call this season unwatchable would be a compliment.
No longer trying to light Vince Carter on fire.
Nobody, no matter how optimistic they are, can have anything good to feel about after that. I can handle a loss. I can handle a blow out loss. I can’t handle a team that doesn’t care to put forth any effort.
by Chris_Coffel on Dec 28, 2011 11:58 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Exactly. I left at the end of the third quarter.
Which is something I’ve not done in 3 years of having season tickets. The theory being….if they don’t care why the fuck should I.
No longer trying to light Vince Carter on fire.
by Scott Howard on Dec 29, 2011 12:00 AM MST up reply actions
I felt like leaving.
But I just couldn’t do it.
So instead I spent the the third and fourth quarter watching the media table, and getting told on Twitter that I wasn’t a true fan because I was being too pessimistic.
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by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 29, 2011 12:02 AM MST up reply actions
You're not a real fan.
A real fan would be at the games and write about the Suns on Bright Side and express your feelings for the Suns on social media and stuff.
You don’t do any of that obviously.
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LOL at "real fans" being required to be optimistic.
No longer trying to light Vince Carter on fire.
by Scott Howard on Dec 29, 2011 10:49 AM MST up reply actions
Ditto. Logic fail.
I’m a fan of America – but I’m not optimistic about our government. Am I a real American?
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No Canadian...
real fans aren’t required to be optimistic…Just realize that teams are goining to go through ups and downs…everything comes full circle…
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!
Obviously.
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by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 29, 2011 1:22 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
I can’t blame you. It’s hard to be passionate about people that show no passion.
by Chris_Coffel on Dec 29, 2011 12:04 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Nicely put...
I think that was the most disconcerting aspect of this loss to me…There it was, only the second game of the season and our team at certain points looked as if they had already given up.
I’ve only seen that in the past late in the season with teams who had lost game after game and realized they had no chance of making the playoffs and had nothing left to play for.
The starters looked like they actually quit in the 3rd quarter tonight, and it wasn’t until our bench came in that we saw any effort return.
This bothered me more than anything else…As poorly as we played in the season opener I never had a sense that the team had given up. Tonight I did, and that makes me very concerned about what is still to come over the remainder of the season.
by 7footer on Dec 29, 2011 12:15 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
I remember when we were 23-9 in 07-08
The team looked like they were giving no effort and so Kerr held a meeting and talked to the players. The very next day, Marcus Banks hit 8 three pointers. Lol, I don’t know where I’m going with this. It’s just kind of funny to me.
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Absolutely true.
No longer trying to light Vince Carter on fire.
by Scott Howard on Dec 29, 2011 9:36 AM MST up reply actions
Warrick played well?
Bad game. Got to give the team a couple weeks before I completely lose perspective. We know most of these guys on our team can score/shoot – they just need to remember that.
One thing that I’m stuck on at the moment – WHY IN THE WORLD will Channing Frye NEVER contest an open court run-out… that 3/4 court steal by Hawes was the 3rd time in two games (and not many minutes) for Frye to run back in position to at least contest the open court attempt and he doesn’t even lift a hand.
That was the most discouraging part of this game was to see a lot of guys hanging their heads or looking dejected. Not all were like that so hopefully somebody wakes them up.
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if the phoenix suns were a team in a disney sports movie, what would happen next?
gentry would give a fire-and-brimstone locker room speech, a medically-rejuvenated michael redd would show up and become a go-to scorer, channing and jared would start raining down threes, and the team would go on a kick-ass winning streak, set to a musical montage.
real life sucks.
Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
~Jack Burton, "Big Trouble in Little China"
DUDES!
I don’t usually post here but TRUST me I’m a die hard Suns fan. I know tonight looked bad, really bad. And I’m not going to sit here saying we’ll make the playoffs — I’m not going to make any predictions. But I know you all appreciate history. I see the names you throw around for fun, the Jake Voshkuls, the Gordon Giriceks, what have you.. here is another throwback for ya’ll to think about tonight. Ready?? 1996-97 – 0-13.
That’s all I got. Keep the faith.
2 things to take from the game tonight...
1. “There will be no tacos this year” – I’m imagining Chris Farley or the Anchorman voice. “What did Santa get for you this year? Looks like a single tostada with jack squat on it.”
2. Someone stop these broadcasters from babbling on about Warrick as a lone bright spot…he can hit a midrange jump shot. He has passable interior moves. Score first, defend later…we watched this film last year and know the ending. It’s called a blowout loss. Watch Markieff actually close out and tie a guy up for the jump ball. Love watching the rook play!
by ninecharacters on Dec 29, 2011 12:29 AM MST reply actions
I thought Warrick played well
and his overall game is much better so far (preseason to now) than last year.
Our problem is we have ZERO outside threat.
Nobody but our rookie is hitting threes with regularity, and I use that term loosely considering we’re only 2 games deep.
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I wish I were a God and that I could take my PS3 controller and plug it into the TV and control these players like it was a video game. I guarantee I could win a Championship with this crappy squad. Although, 64 games and the playoffs is a lot of time to commit. It would get boring. I’d need some help or I’d purposely start losing games to add more drama and then force you guys to go through a 7 game series in each round of the playoffs.
Don't trade Dudley!
Some of these guys don't have their conditioning yet
Blazers came out listless and completely flat against the Kings yesterday. I’m sure the Suns probably suffered from similar. I’m not sure what the Suns will be this season but I am sure they’ll get better.
thanks for the support man
it’s just tough, I’m not exaggerating when I say that may be the worst I’ve ever seen them play.
Enough Bitchin' lets do this
Hard to watch for sure
I try to look at it like a pre-season game that counts.
This is why
you have to entertain the idea to trade Nash and Hill. Problem being both on expiring contracts so the value you get in return may as not be as much. But you have to do this, at least out of respect for the both of them. They do no deserve to be around this.
This team went from running athletes who filled lanes and could shoot, to cement laced athletes who can’t shoot.
Keep Morris and Gorat, and clean house. This team needs a complete over haul. Adding one scorer to this team will not do it. It is time to strip this team down.
Now, will this horrible owner do it in name of ticket sales? Nash puts fannies in the seat, him gone will take away revenue. We will see. If he is serious about getting this franchise turned around, he will trade Nash. He is the most valuable chip.
I will never understand this argument in relation to Nash and Hill.
But you have to do this, at least out of respect for the both of them. They do no deserve to be around this.
Hill and Nash are contributing to the suck. Hill and Nash have openly, actively decided to continue playing here for years. Why is it the Suns’ FO’s job to trade them away when they want to be here and have never, ever said otherwise?
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Having said that, I DO believe the Suns should start over from scratch, which includes trading these guys for young talent. But that’s in the SUNS best long-term interest. Not in Nash/Hill’s interest.
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I agree.
I guess I look at as a mutual respect. The both have been wonderful players and humans. But the Suns need to look out for what is best for the organization, and I agree totally for that . Its time. If somehow the Suns could get an additional 1st rounder next year with trades, I would think that would be a start.
No matter how amazing those two men are (and we all know how amazing I think they are), I don’t think anyone in the NBA “deserves” anything – particularly when it comes to something like a championship or playing on a quality team.
Grant Hill willingly re-signed here when he had many other options in this past offseason. And I don’t know how many times we have to hear Steve Nash say he wants to retire in Phoenix before we believe it.
Also, I completely agree with this:
But that’s in the SUNS best long-term interest. Not in Nash/Hill’s interest.
If they do have to go ( :/ ), it needs to be for precisely that reason: the Suns’ best interest.
And, yeah:
Hill and Nash are contributing to the suck.
They aren’t exactly sparkling out there right now.
I just don’t feel ready for the Suns to give them up just yet.
I get a little crazy about this topic, in case you can’t tell, but it’s hard for me to think about. The day Steve Nash isn’t a Sun anymore – whether it be due to retirement or trade – will be the saddest day of my sports life (and that includes the day Goran was traded.)
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by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 29, 2011 11:08 PM MST up reply actions
Real talk.
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The good news is that I found a place showing the game.
The bad news is that I saw the game. What a horrendous performance from the starters. I echo what others have already written, that I can’t remember ever seeing Nash play worse. And Dudley looked like he didn’t belong on an NBA court.
Where is our veteran leadership? Why are we seeing no apparent benefits of cohesion from last season?
Oh, and Shannon Brown is even worse than Vince Carter. Great athlete with no basketball skills.
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by East Bay Ray on Dec 29, 2011 8:15 AM MST via Android app reply actions
You guys remember at the beginning of the season?
when we thought we might make a run for an 8th seed??? those were the days.
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you mean, 4 days ago?
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by Alex Laugan on Dec 29, 2011 10:33 AM MST up reply actions
I still think it possible
for the record.
I won’t jump ship at least for a couple weeks. The team is just starting to self-calibrate – yeah it sucked they lost the 1st game, and the offense was terrible. Yeah, last night was very hard to watch – but at some point the team will make an adjustment and I’m reserving further judgment until I see what kind of adjustment it is. A level head will understand there will be a series of adjustments that will need to be made throughout the course of the season – it’s whether or not they are the right adjustments and if they are in time (See the Arizona Cardinals this year) to stay competitively relevant.
NERD ALERT: Those of you old timers familiar with my “”http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2009/10/12/1082272/has-the-phoenix-pendulum-stopped" target="new">Pendulum Adjustment" theory – I am extremely excited to see my theory at work this season with this team, it’s a great opportunity to track their daily and seasonal adjustments. My only question is what is this team’s equilibrium? Are we manned to have a ‘running’ team like Gentry keeps suggesting? Or are we manned for something different?
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Link fail on that
And for the record… that post I wrote before any games were played of the 09-10 season – a year after missing the playoffs – the team made necessary adjustments and went to the WCF.
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The plan is workign perfectly.
We will get the first round pick and no one will see it coming Mwahahahahahahah.
(except for the rest of the league)
Lost my first game in 2K league last night too. BLA!!!!! That’s what I get for picking the Bulls.
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And the worst part is,
There is not a single GREEN COMMENT on this entire thread! No comment with more that 3 recs! This shitty team is tearing apart this community we have worked so hard to build. DAMNIT!
Channing Frye would NEVER catch flying french fries with his left hand!
by Will Slaven on Dec 29, 2011 8:33 AM MST reply actions 6 recs
rec ho
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by Alex Laugan on Dec 29, 2011 10:34 AM MST up reply actions
Land ho!
No longer trying to light Vince Carter on fire.
by Scott Howard on Dec 29, 2011 10:34 AM MST up reply actions
It's too late to get Redd.
I like the idea of Redd but they should have done this a month ago. He can shoot and would move Dudley back to the second unit. To ask him to learn the system and get into game shape 2 games into a shortened season is asking for failure.
If Redd does last the season at least he might make the Suns more enjoyable to watch.
Management seems to be way behind the eight ball. Carters and Peitrus contracts were bought out, we couldn’t turn them into anything of value. Brooks is in China. We let Amundson walk, but the Warriors could turn him into Brandon Rush. We haven’t even begun to somehow fill the void of the departure of Amare. Childress looks like Turkoglu in that he doesn’t fit our style of play.
The sci-fi geek in me wants to put on a Sith robe and shoot purple lightning bolts at the front office while i quote “You shall pay for your lack of vision”.
Hows TOR treating you? :D
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reading this
made me feel better for some reason.
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FO is behind the eight ball.
Boy if that isn’t the truth. For the life of me how in the world did they see this as a playoff type team.? There appears to me no one at this point in the FO has some forward thinking.
I have a couple of guestimate answers to this:
1) based on our own poll a few days ago, many of us thought the Suns would be at-worst a middling team fighting for a playoff spot
2) the FO has never said they are going for big wins this year. It’s clear they are saving for next summer.
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by Alex Laugan on Dec 29, 2011 10:36 AM MST up reply actions
I cannot imagine the backcourt defensive horrors of a Nash/Redd pairing
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by Alex Laugan on Dec 29, 2011 10:34 AM MST up reply actions
This will be me at games by next week:
No longer trying to light Vince Carter on fire.
by Scott Howard on Dec 29, 2011 9:44 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Hah that's probably going to be me as well
Going to the game on the 2nd. I have no expectations that we’ll win that one. Day after new years? Afternoon? Yeah right.
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Whoa whoa whoa guys
I actually went back and read some of the comments. The team looks really really bad but it’s only 2 games.
2 games dudes and dudettes we are only 1.5 games back according to the main page (BTW IT SAYS 80 GAMES LEFT)
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Just develop a nice alcohol addiction.
It worked for m.
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If it helps you feel better
Celtics 0-3
Dallas 0-2
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Maybe its just going to be a weird year. Wish we could take advantage of it but it doesnt look like we can. I hate the fact that every year we need time to gel but I guess thats how it works when you change it up so much. Maybe NO is going to be better then everyone thinks this year. Idk I started out on negative mode from the first game. I jsut didnt think we would be very good this year. Like all the pundits are finally right about us.
Insert epic quote here: "I got nothin'"
Not many words for last nights game
Terrible, atrocious, boring, lackadaisical, ugly…. I could go on. Gotta love getting slapped with the suck stick as soon as the NBA season opens up. Ugh….
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