Phoenix Suns Keep Grant Hill for 2012 Season
by Alex Laugan on Dec 9, 2011 10:15 AM MST
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The 2012 cap space is alive and well for the Suns, who spent about $11-12 million this week on 3 players but not a dime past this season.
Grant Hill is staying with the Suns, per Paul Coro of azcentral.com:
The Suns considered Hill their top free agency priority and showed it in spending on Hill, who is the second oldest player in the league at 39 (by a day to Kurt Thomas). Hill has been a bargain for the Suns, making $10.1 million over the past four years as a productive starter one of the top defenders in the league.
His return was essential to the Suns' pursuit of defensive improvement and the happiness of Steve Nash in the last year of his contract. The Suns also want Hill's leadership influence on the rest of the team and it is believed he could have a long-term role with the organization beyond his retirement as a player.
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Beautiful. The FO is doing a great job. Preserve that cap space. I wonder if they told Grant they intend to keep Nash. If he is traded, I’d imagine Hill would be pretty upset. In any event, love the Brown, Pietrus and Hill moves. Not sure about Bassy. But great job so far, new FO.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Dec 9, 2011 3:40 PM MST up reply actions
Good one Suns and thank you for not insulting Grant by low balling him.
Hopefully Chilly gets more consistent minutes and helps Grant rest on those back to back to back games.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
Report is for 6.5 million
Not sure where the space came from but definately not a lowball figure for a 39 year old. Looks like we have Nash happy for at least one more season.
Fan of the TEAM not a player.
by Suns Fan For Life on Dec 9, 2011 10:21 AM MST reply actions
Oh, happy day!
Snoopy dance!
by SteveNash, QuantumPhysicist on Dec 9, 2011 10:23 AM MST reply actions
Prof. your class is exchaning notes.
Cue Breakfast Club scene.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
by atkammoh on Dec 9, 2011 10:26 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
aw, let 'em! BrightSide is more important!
by SteveNash, QuantumPhysicist on Dec 9, 2011 10:28 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
You really need to come teach at Creighton.
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What else to say but this is a good day for the Snns...
No Vince Carter, No Mickael Pietrus, and we keep Grant Hill…This calls for a celebration…!
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!
by Daryl Ray on Dec 9, 2011 10:28 AM MST reply actions 2 recs
I second this...
guess I will watch the team this year…
I always liked the Idea of Pietrus (3pt shooter, defensive specialist) but not the Execution of Pietrus...
well, I guess today has been his Execution :)
by SteveNash, QuantumPhysicist on Dec 9, 2011 10:32 AM MST up reply actions
Ha.
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T-Bird's on me!
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by East Bay Ray on Dec 9, 2011 10:33 AM MST up reply actions
Woohoo! Let's party like it's 1999...!
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!
If that was the case, I'd actually want Vince Carter!
Nevertheless, welcome back, SG! The place wasn’t the same without you.
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by East Bay Ray on Dec 9, 2011 10:35 AM MST up reply actions
It's good to be back...
Failed to get my Doctorate so I’ll do what I do best…Post inane comments on BSOTS and drink myself silly…
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!
Your post about Gentry last year was top notch.
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by East Bay Ray on Dec 9, 2011 10:43 AM MST up reply actions
It's all because Grant Hill is a man.
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by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 9, 2011 10:32 AM MST reply actions 10 recs
"a" man...or "the" man?
"We never tried Amar'e, Nash, and a live Grizzly bear." -Scott Howard, January 18, 2010
"All they’re fighting for is to stay as obscenely rich as they are now, based on their ability to bounce a ball and throw it in a hole." East Bay Ray, October 10, 2011
"the players and owners are squabbling over how to divide the pie that WE BAKE FOR THEM." East Bay Ray, October 31, 2011
Both.
He is a man.
But, he is also the man.
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by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 9, 2011 10:44 AM MST up reply actions
Over/under for how many minutes into the first game someone posts that comment:
I place it at 4.
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by East Bay Ray on Dec 9, 2011 10:45 AM MST up reply actions
I'll post it in the first 5 seconds, knowing how excited game threads make me.
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by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 9, 2011 10:46 AM MST up reply actions
That's pretty much our rallying cry before tip-off.
The game can’t start until everyone is made aware that Grant Hill is in fact a man.
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If I ever meet Grant Hill, it'll be the first thing out of my mouth.
“Mr. Hill, you are a man. I am honored to be in your presence.”
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by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 9, 2011 10:50 AM MST up reply actions 4 recs
He'll be glad to hear...
That he is a man…
Hello DIM!!!!!
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!
He'll understand the importance of the statement.
And hello Sun God! We’ve missed you!
I still can’t explain how happy I am that it’s all back..
All this news… everyone coming back to the Bright Side…
These are happy times.
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by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 9, 2011 10:55 AM MST up reply actions
Didnt someone last year tweet to Grant that he is BAMF.
And he asked what that meant?
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
That sounds familiar.
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by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 9, 2011 11:53 AM MST up reply actions
I would be responsible for that
He sent me a DM asking me what it meant but i wasn´t able to reply because he must be a follower of mine for me to be able to respond.
I also tweeted my frustration to Nash about how he should go to a contending team, and Jared Dudley blocked me, can please someone help me on that topic ?
Do not let Steve Nash and Grant Hill go away, please.
Otherwhise im not buying any tickets from you Saver.
I did. hehe
I haven’t deleted the notification on my mail about it. haha
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thanks
by sports_dude33 on Dec 9, 2011 3:48 PM MST up reply actions
Momma... there goes that man!
Insert epic quote here: "I got nothin'"
by The_Knife on Dec 9, 2011 11:49 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I miss the "Grant Hill is a man" comments.
Now that this has been uttered, we know the NBA’s truly back!
Once you go Nash, you won't wanna go back.
Yes sir!!!
GO SUNS!!!!!!
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Trade
I’m hearing Big Baby is getting traded to Orlando for Bass. Not a big deal, but I’m glad we didn’t get that lard.
Orlando might need to make bigger moves than that if they want to keep Dwight… but I’m assuming that ship has sailed already.
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...Vince Carter likes cheese." -Walt Frazier
Very happy to read this.
The Suns are executing their plan so far: a competitive team for this year, a ton of cap space next year, keep Nash for the final year of his contract. We can question whether that’s a smart plan or not. I happen to think that it is. But then, as I’ve written here before, I will never support a “let’s suck as much as possible” strategy for my team.
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I'm with you.
I think the Suns are doing the best they can. They should be somewhat competitive this year and have a shot at the playoffs. Then next year they’ll have a ton of money. Now whether or not that money is put to good use is a different story altogether, but I’ll still vote to take this route than tanking.
by Chris_Coffel on Dec 9, 2011 11:00 AM MST up reply actions
Really happy
Agreed the Suns have made all the moves I would have realistically hoped for. Pick up a SG to replace VC, get rid of VC and Pietrus, keep Hill, and as we do every year, pick up another backup PG we think can backup Nash, but will ultimately disappoint us.
Well, in all honesty
I think the expectations for Telfair are pretty low
Fan of the TEAM not a player.
by Suns Fan For Life on Dec 9, 2011 1:51 PM MST up reply actions
Oh
I’m glad the Suns got Hill back. The money is fair since he’s been underpaid for us so far. Also keeps us flexible for next summer, in case some big stars actually decide to be available.
"The Knicks with the swiss cheese defense.
...Vince Carter likes cheese." -Walt Frazier
Ugh
Why would he do this? Get a ring grant! Stop ruining my team by keeping us at the bottom of the lottery! Pointless move by the suns.
by forget on Dec 9, 2011 10:45 AM MST via mobile reply actions
Kids and Family>Ring
Cant blame for his priorities.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
by atkammoh on Dec 9, 2011 10:47 AM MST up reply actions 4 recs
Well said...
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More like Kids+ an extra 5mil > ring lol
by forget on Dec 9, 2011 10:52 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
well, he could always play poorly so you could have a better chance at the lottery...
no, scratch that… he’s BAMF and he’s THE MAN, so he can’t play poorly…
by SteveNash, QuantumPhysicist on Dec 9, 2011 10:50 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah
I wish we sucked even more than we already do! Screw the Suns!… Wait.. what blog is this again?
BAMF goes HAM.
by brian13 on Dec 9, 2011 11:27 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Dark Side of the Moon...
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by Daryl Ray on Dec 9, 2011 11:33 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Needs more Megan Fox
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by East Bay Ray on Dec 9, 2011 11:38 AM MST up reply actions
She wasn't awful...
But Megan Fox was definitely missed. She and Le-Beef had a ton of chemistry in those movies.
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I don't remember her speaking in that movie
she was pretty much part of the scenery, wasn’t she?
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Michael Bay made it a point to have the camera focus on her during those random explosion scenes.
Once you go Nash, you won't wanna go back.
It jiggles when it wiggles, yo
Did I just say yo? Did you ever say something you wished you hadn’t? This is one of those times.
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by jc79 on Dec 9, 2011 4:47 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
How can I do the opposite of rec? Terrible comment as usual, forget
by BringBackBarkley17 on Dec 9, 2011 3:53 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Man now if we could just get rid of hakim warrick...
by Migonads on Dec 9, 2011 10:52 AM MST via mobile reply actions
As long as David Kahn has a job...
There is always hope….
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by Daryl Ray on Dec 9, 2011 10:54 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
A KAAAAAAHHHNNN!!!! shot is always an insta-rec for me. Which is
It’s amazing a man like him was able to sign Anthony Tolliver.
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It's even more amazing with an 8.5% national unemployment rate...
Why this man still has a job….
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SMH...
Well, they got rid of Rhambis. That’s a start.
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Congrats, guys!
Really happy for all parties involved, cheers!
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Dec 9, 2011 10:52 AM MST reply actions
Thanks.
Good luck with your team as well. Perhaps I’ll stop by from time to time to see what’s going on at BF.
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Heh
Suns are sort of my second team, lived in Phoenix for twenty years next summer
by Bullet Nation in Exile on Dec 10, 2011 6:34 AM MST up reply actions
Cool, cool.
I was wondering why you popped up over here. There’s plenty of room on this sinking ship, so hop on!
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I would like to guess how the morning breakfast negotiation went...
Sarver: So 5mill and I pay for breakfast. Handshake?
Grant: How about 6.5mill and you still pay for breakfast.
Sarver: Oh wow, you are good at this negotiating, deal!
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
by atkammoh on Dec 9, 2011 10:53 AM MST reply actions 4 recs
Rumor Grant picked up the tip.
borderline adequate
by waxmonkey on Dec 9, 2011 10:54 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow. He is the man...!
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by Daryl Ray on Dec 9, 2011 10:55 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Sarver: Hey Grant, let’s mess with the reporters. How about we both walk out looking all mad? That way they think you’re leaving.
Grant: Sure, if you add an extra million onto that deal.
Sarver: … Deal.
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by Omaha Sun on Dec 9, 2011 10:59 AM MST up reply actions 3 recs
It probably went like this
Sarver: So then it’s a deal, cool 6.5 Million
Hill : Yep, thanks for the breakfast I guess I’ll pay
Sarver: Thanks Grant!
Hill: Hey Bob, I would have signed for 2 million :)
Sarver: FUUUUUUUU
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by Suns R Us on Dec 9, 2011 11:24 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Lol at this, rec
Do not let Steve Nash and Grant Hill go away, please.
Otherwhise im not buying any tickets from you Saver.
I would imagine what the waitress that served them breakfast was thinking....
Big pay day incoming, these guys are negotiating a 6.5mill deal. New car!
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
everyone start the chant with me!
WE WANT BEASELY! WE WANT BEASELY! WE WANT BEASELY! WE WANT BEASELY!
by Migonads on Dec 9, 2011 10:58 AM MST via mobile reply actions
Actually, I do.
Assuming it’s cheap and doesn’t cost us much in terms of players.
borderline adequate
Yep.
I’d take him, just not quite that enthusiastic about it.
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Whose minutes would you have him take?
Hill or Childress at 3? Frye or Markieff at 4?
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by East Bay Ray on Dec 9, 2011 11:29 AM MST up reply actions
Move Frye to C and make him a PF I guess. Gortat would help cover for some of his weaknesses.
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Frye would be the back-up big man.
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Still hoping for Lopez resurgence
I’m still hoping Lopez figures out how to be more of a contributor consistently. He really should be the backup center with what we have invested in him. Maybe I’m just naive’.
Probably start the Beas at the 4 and Channing can come off the bench and play the 4 or the 5
And markieff can play some at the 4 when Channing is at the 5. I’m kinda leaving at robin but I’m just assuming he plays bad lol
by Migonads on Dec 9, 2011 11:32 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
I'd assume Lopez
would be part of deal to get the Beas. So that would make room for Frye as the backup C.
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...Vince Carter likes cheese." -Walt Frazier
But then
where does Bass play
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by Suns Fan For Life on Dec 9, 2011 1:53 PM MST up reply actions
I do as well
Steal need a go to scorer. Grant could play the 2 and beasley the three or Grant at 3 and a little undersized by starting beasly at the the 4. He is a guy who can create his own shot from almost anywhere. Plus, we still have Grant who will whip his &*Y into shape. If anyone can make a BA into a BAMF it is Grant HIll
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by Suns Fan For Life on Dec 9, 2011 11:18 AM MST up reply actions
Good on Grant
He very well could of picked any number of teams that will contend. Shows what a decent human being he is. Great news.
WE WANT MILLSAP
Please….
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ok let's start another chant!
We want millsap or Beasely!
by Migonads on Dec 9, 2011 11:31 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Not very catchy.
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Maybe we could twek it a bit...
“Millsap or crap, Millsap or crap”…waitaminute, that ain’t gonna work…
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How about...
“When you’re on Santa’s lap, ask for Millsap!”
Once you go Nash, you won't wanna go back.
by NashMV3 on Dec 9, 2011 11:38 AM MST up reply actions 3 recs
Whoa,
I did not expect something that clever from you. Bravo.
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You know that's how I meant it :-)
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"No crap, we want Millsap?"
“We don’t want no crap, we want Millsap?”
or
“We don’t take no crap, we take Millsap?”
Don't trade Dudley!
You may be onto something...
How about “We don’t want no crap oabout sitting on Millsap’s lap…”
Damn…this just isn’t working…
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That is just dirty.
My suggestion was a lot more festive.
Once you go Nash, you won't wanna go back.
Be careful you guys.
Remember, there is an English teacher that prowls these comments. You may want to fix those double negatives.
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"Prowls"? I wouldn't say, "Prowls"...
“Lurks” and “Slithers” are probably two words I’d use…
by SteveNash, QuantumPhysicist on Dec 9, 2011 5:19 PM MST up reply actions
Slinks about with a smile most unpleasant
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by jc79 on Dec 9, 2011 9:05 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Beez or Mil! Beez or Mil!
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easy beasy
Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
~Jack Burton, "Big Trouble in Little China"
by u_must_chill on Dec 9, 2011 11:41 AM MST up reply actions
you, a guy like lebron james might be a better player than grant hill...
but i’d still pick grant to win in a street fight.
lebron would be busy talking and posturing. grant would be busy ASS-KICKING.
I was thinking about this recently and just thought to mention it on the occasion of his glorious re-signing
Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
~Jack Burton, "Big Trouble in Little China"
Rosterbation!
Not a big rosterbator (sure, that’s what they all say) but here’s two that keep popping up in my head:
Gortat, Lopez, Dudley for Dwight and Hedo (Suns also waive rights to Brooks). Suns end up right around $70m
Lopez for Greg Oden (I think the Suns have enough in remaining trade exceptions to do this straight up).
The Oden thing would be dependent on training staff looking him over and opining they could get him up and running again.
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I don't see Dwight re-signing with us and our current roster.
Next year, if we could swing Gortat for josh smith and hold on to Nash and hill, then maybe he would put pen to paper.
i would do lopez for oden in a heartbeat
i believe in our training staff as much as I believe in death and taxes
Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
~Jack Burton, "Big Trouble in Little China"
by u_must_chill on Dec 9, 2011 11:53 AM MST up reply actions
you can’t add up trade exceptions. Though I read today that Oden had a setback and his contract was scaled back.
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It's a QO
those amounts are pretty much set in stone I thought?
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yeah that was news to me too. Just saw a twitter post on it.
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Neither is probably likely.
Good effort though.
Hey Seth, have you heard any news about players being invited to training camps? Almost every other team has been loading up on former and current D-League and fringe NBA players for their training camp rosters, yet the Suns haven’t done anything. Who are we bringing in for training camp fodder? Looking at the roster, a young wing to take the 13th spot might be wise since we only have 4 between the 2 and 3 now.
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D-Leaguers and fringe NBA players?
Like we don’t have enough of those already?
I'm Michael Beasley's imaginary friend.
by suns68 on Dec 9, 2011 1:25 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Dowdell and Siler. That’s two. Teams usually bring 15+ players to camp. That’s all I’m, talking about. Maybe we get lucky.
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Orlando gives us Dwight for Gortat, Lopez, & Dudz...Don't think that's happening...
Do like to get Greg Oden…If anyone could resurrect Gramps from the Trainers Room, it would be the Suns renowned training staff…
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UFA after this year, so you're correct.
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Has any player ever had as much to play for as Oden does this year?
If he plays well, he’ll get a multi-year deal for way more than the midlevel.
If he plays poorly or gets hurt, he’ll be out of the league.
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I was thinking of a similar ORL trade yesterday
but wrote it off since I didn’t see the Magic doing it. It’s a decent haul for them, but combining the trade from last season with the remaining players, it would be..
Phx get:
Dwight Howard
Orl gets:
Robin Lopez and Jared Dudley
BAMF goes HAM.
Not even remotely close enough to be worth considering.
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I didn't mean that to sound so mean, I'm just saying that's no where near enough to get Howard.
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I heard he wants to go to Jersey
which is proof that he’s not all there mentally, I think
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Well he does have Deron Williams there.
And isn’t he friends with Jay-Z?
Once you go Nash, you won't wanna go back.
Yeah, NJ actually has something going if they get a beast big man.
That might get Williams to stay. They are moving to Brooklyn, one of the best PG-C duos we’ve seen in a while, as well as a couple decent role players.
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That pairing would be scary good
because of the defensive potential.
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Imagine CP3 and Dwight on defense.
Paul could shoot the passing lanes all game long since he had Dwight to erase his mistakes behind him. He’d average 4 spg.
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so
A mediocre team this year and a lot of cap space next year? Maybe they gave a payday for grant this year in hope for a reasonable contract next year if they can find a good place to spend their cash.
I was almost convinced he was out the door...
But i am very much relieved at this piece of news.
Hill and Brown added the the core, i think thats a good start
As Seth said on the podcast,
don’t listen to anything that comes out of the NY media.
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It might have been a slight ploy by Grant to squeeze a few more dollars out of Sarver...
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Likely more than slight.
Agents may be greedy, but they aren’t idiots.
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In 5 years, we would have paid Grant Hill 16.5 million...
What othere Small forward would have given us this much value at this price…?
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LeBron? Durant?
That’s about all I can think of that provide as much bang for their buck as BAMF.
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Ture.
I was just talking about value. The ratio between what they are being paid and what they provide is very similar to Grant’s ratio IMO, just on a different scale.
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Yes, but rainmann is right...
What other small forwards in the 3 million per year range would have produced like this over several years…?
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No one.
I think the comparison to the 2 best SFs in the game was rather complimentary, though. Shows how much he has done for us.
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The only question left is...
Has Grant done enough in the last few years to revive a chance for the Hall of fame….?
Tough question for all Bright Siders….
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Grant could enter the HoF based on his college career alone
but his multiple citizenship awards in the NBA probably seal the deal.
And then there’s his coaching career…
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?...does BAMF's return as well as the other moves the FO has made have visions of playoffs dancing in anyone's head?
As an eternal optimist, I’m thinking a lower playoff seed & an unfortunate early exit unless they do some amazing lab work and produce some of that chemistry they had in 09-10! Still need a scorer who wont have to rely on Nashty to feed him constantly, IMO…
I need a ring, DAMMIT!!
We could have got Bass
Maybe Boston will flip him?
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
That trade has me scratchin my head
The only thing I can figure is Big Baby’s contract is shorter?
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Breaking News
Orlando Amnesty Gilbert Arenas
"SIR ALEX FERGUSON" Greatest Manager of all time
Sign him NOW!!
lol
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
Damn Skippy!
We need Gilbert Arenas to put us over the top…NBA Championship here we come…!
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Waitaminute...
I thought you said Dan Gilbert not Gilbert Arenas…
Oh well…
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Steve Kerr on ESPN talking about Paul
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The Suns to offer VC 3 year, 24 mil extension
As per Paul Coro
Lol, nice joke
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Nice try, Vince
You'd better stop that, it's not being decided by that. It's being decided by two Phoenix Suns who knew about the rule, forgot about it, couldn't control themselves, and didn't have coaches that could control them. And don't you forget it.
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Thornton re-signs with Kings
5 years, $40 mil.
Scratch him off the wishlist guys.
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...Vince Carter likes cheese." -Walt Frazier
LOL.
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by PHXSunsRunNGun on Dec 9, 2011 1:09 PM MST up reply actions
Yes......
this means Nashty’s going to be here for at least one more year. Fuck it, let’s get a championship guys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z9pUNc95mo
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6.5 mil for one year?
Yeah, he’s worth it. He may even be worth more for what he does.
Don't trade Dudley!
Goodbye Vince Carter.
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Now we''l have no one to light on fire anymore...
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Scott Howard on Dec 9, 2011 1:36 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Yes. Yes indeed!
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by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 9, 2011 1:45 PM MST up reply actions
can we get arenas now?
he’s just got amnestied!
well, for the same reasons that Carter didn’t work out. He can occassionally put up good numbers, but not predictably.
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Now all I've got to worry about is re-signing Silo.
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by suns68 on Dec 9, 2011 1:36 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Won't take much more than a bucket of KFC and a 44oz iced tea....
Hopefully, it won’t come to that if we negotiate right…
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I think
It speaks volumes about Grant Hill that not a single person thinks $6.5m for a 39 year old is too much.
by Toon Army Sun on Dec 9, 2011 1:42 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
Suns roster set now?
It looks to me like the Suns have a complete roster now assuming Telfair and Brown sign right? I doubt we see any more moves except training camp fodder at this point.
Wait
We haven’t signed them yet? So does that mean that despite agreeing to a deal we can still say no and sign someone else?
Don't trade Dudley!
God I hope so...
Signing Telfair after Brown seems ridiculously unnecessary…go after Arenas.
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Arenas, if we got him on the cheap would be much, much better than Telfair.
Who knows what our Training staff could do for his body? And who knows what Hill and Nash could do for his mind?
Don't trade Dudley!
Exactly.
Plus he would be a helluva backup for Nash especially when we inevitably have to sit him for a game or two during one of our many back-to-back-to-backs.
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he won't
clear waivers from teams under the cap
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if he does?
maybe…if the deal is real cheap
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Right.
Seems like a guy like him just needs a place to play where he can essentially redeem himself in the eyes of the league. Reading Coro is sounds like Brown is doing a similar thing only for breakout potential.
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"All they’re fighting for is to stay as obscenely rich as they are now, based on their ability to bounce a ball and throw it in a hole." East Bay Ray, October 10, 2011
"the players and owners are squabbling over how to divide the pie that WE BAKE FOR THEM." East Bay Ray, October 31, 2011
I just don't see Gilbert fitting in on this team...
His personality is …well whack to say the least…
and he’s a gunner without a conscience…
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Eh...
yes and no. The guy has sat so long I think its been beaten out of him. He played well as the spot up shooter in Orlando. People said the same thing about JRich too but look what happened to him!
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"All they’re fighting for is to stay as obscenely rich as they are now, based on their ability to bounce a ball and throw it in a hole." East Bay Ray, October 10, 2011
"the players and owners are squabbling over how to divide the pie that WE BAKE FOR THEM." East Bay Ray, October 31, 2011
Thats the magic area right there...
If I am Arenas, I am thinking….hmmm where can I go that is a playoff contender but not somewhere where young talent is going to push me out of the spotlight…
PHX would be a prime spot to reinvent his game. Play next to or behind Nash as either a SG or backup PG.
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"the players and owners are squabbling over how to divide the pie that WE BAKE FOR THEM." East Bay Ray, October 31, 2011
He may find somewhere he could start though.
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JRich was considered a good character guy before coming to us...
Gilbert is just out there…..another stratosphere
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Just shoot me now...
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So.... you're going with Arenas?
Once you go Nash, you won't wanna go back.
by NashMV3 on Dec 9, 2011 2:03 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
No I want anoth hit from this Strawberry Boone's Farm I am forced to drink...
Damn ABC store is out of the good stuff…
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hmmm
so you settled for sugar water Boone’s Farm?
"The Knicks with the swiss cheese defense.
...Vince Carter likes cheese." -Walt Frazier
Sad but it's true...
Can’t beat $1.99 a bottle…
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Can we use one to negotiate for SIler
Fan of the TEAM not a player.
by Suns Fan For Life on Dec 9, 2011 2:27 PM MST up reply actions
Siler looks more like a Schlitz Malt Liqour guy to me...
And I’m not sure who’s going to ante up the $1.99 for the Boone’s farm…
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Why stop there...?
Let’s go after Metta War & Peace (whatever the hell is name is…)…No the SUns have built there teams on guys with at least a little respectability…
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The key to winning a championship is getting someone a little crazy
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Pistons- Wallace
Lakers- Artest
Boston- Garnett
Don't trade Dudley!
Would have liked to see Gani been given a chance...
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Because Clark's contract was guaranteed
so they were gonna have to pay him anyway
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It's funny.
I never thought I’d hear the phrase “the Suns’ depth at power forward”. We’re in desperate need of a GOOD power forward…
Once you go Nash, you won't wanna go back.
We have a burgeoning all-star in Hakim Warrick....
I did not just say that….
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I forgot to say this, but...
that picture just makes everything seem OK. Like there’s absolutely nothing that can go wrong.
Once you go Nash, you won't wanna go back.
GLAD Grant is back.
It would be rough seeing him anywhere but in Phoenix and the implications that he would be with the Suns after he retires makes me even happier. He’s a stand up guy and very VERY proud to call him a Sun.
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What was the deal for Pietrus?
I heard we sent him to Toronto, but didn’t hear if we had to include picks for them to take him, or if we got anything back.
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I'm happy as long as we didn't have to give away a pick
to make them take him.
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Nope.
Basically a straight cash dump, and the extra space was used on Grant.
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it doesn’t work that way, technically. Grant would have been re-signed with Bird Rights, independent of the Pietrus trade. Pietrus trade will yield a trade exception that can be used to acquire another player (but not in combination with other trade exceptions or players. Only draft picks and cash.)
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I prefer to think of it as us using the space on Grant. That makes it seem like we got something back for Peaches.
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You could think of it as
we got Brown, Telfair and a conditional second round pick for Pietrus, since the TPE he’ll bring in is pretty darn close to the value of the MLE we spent on those two.
borderline adequate
Did the Suns just pay Grant 2 years salary this year
so that he could take a minimum contract next year?
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Interesting thought.
Perhaps wishful thinking though. He’s basically taken min contracts the last 2 years.
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Just trying to be provocative
If this doesn’t work, I’m going to dance around in a kilt that’s waaay too short. So you’d best act provoked!
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This contract amount is interesting and scary to me
Steve and grant now have contract amounts that add up to more or less a max-type player…i love these guys and dont want to see them tossed as an expiring contract with draft picks for someone.
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by Snowbird on Dec 9, 2011 5:07 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
yes if the Suns are floundering, that may be exactly what happens at the trade deadline.
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