Suns Lose Triple Overtime Thriller To Lakers 137-139
by Beavis 25 on Mar 22, 2011 11:56 PM MST
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Tough loss, very tough to swallow. The Suns had multiple opportunities to win this one, but couldn't get it done. It was a good game nonetheless. It may have even been the best game all season. Too bad the Suns were on the bitter end of it. The better team won.
This loss pretty much sums up the story of the season for these Phoenix Suns; getting off to a decent start, falling away, making a comeback, taking a brief lead, giving it up again, fighting to get it back and never giving up, but falling short in the end.
Their record now stands at 35-34 behind the 37-34 Rockets and 39-32 Grizzlies who hold the 8th seed. When you look at teams like the Grizzlies you'll notice that they've managed to play through injuries (losing Rudy Gay) and upset some very good teams such as the Thunder, Mavs and even the Spurs. The Suns have been unable to do that losing close ones to the Thunder, Mavs, Lakers and even the Rockets and Hornets in recent weeks; can't say they haven't tried though.
Playoff chances are looking pretty dim and the Suns just can't seem to get that miracle when they need it. It doesn't mean all is over as they still have a chance and I'd be surprised if they just laid down and called it a season. They'll fight to the end because that is who they are, the Phoenix Suns.
Recap
Suns got off to a decent start and took a 31-27 lead by the end of the first. From 2nd quarter things kind of went down hill as they allowed the Lakers to score 39 and take a 6-pt lead into halftime. Both teams were on fire for much of the first half and not much defense was played at all. Same story for much of the 3rd quarter only the Suns started missing their shots and the Lakers took a 21 point lead with about 4 minutes to go. At that point I thought, "Well, not surprised they're getting blown-out. I guess I can start writing the recap and than call it a night and get some extra sleep." Boy was I wrong!
Steve Nash led a comeback with 4 minutes to go in the 3rd, hitting three straight three-pointers. The Suns managed to tie the game at 101-101 and than Kobe checked in and led the Lakers to a 9-0 run. Suns didn't give up. Down 106-112 they tied the game to take it into overtime thanks to two threes from Frye and Grant Hill.
In OT the Lakers took a 121-118 lead with about 2.5 seconds to go and Lamar fouled Channing Frye on a 3-pointer. Frye once again came through in the clutch knocking down all three attempts to send it into a 2nd overtime.
In 2nd overtime, Frye hit another 3-pointer to give the Suns a 130-128 lead. Gasol was fouled and made two free- throws to tie it.
A 3rd overtime! This is where things got rough. Both teams were tired, but for the Suns players like Nash (37), Carter (34) and Hill (38); they can only go for so long before they run out of gas. Nash turned the ball over 2 times, Grant fouled out and Carter missed a wide open three. The worst mistake was when they were down 135-137 and refused to foul, letting Odom run off the clock and throwing it in to Kobe who scored over Channing. The Suns lost 137-139.
Highlights
Steve Nash- 20 assist, 19 points on 7-15 shooting.
Channing Frye- 32 points on 11-23 shooting and 14 rebounds.
Marcin Gortat- 24 points on 9-15 shooting and 16 rebounds.
Grant Hill- 11 and 10.
Aaron Brooks- 15 points on 6-9 shooting and 3 assist in only 13 minutes. Brooks played well in limited time and lived up to his "Laker Killer" title. We have to question if Gentry should have gone to him for a minute or two in the 2nd OT just to give Nash a breather?
Well, good night folks. Lets hope the bench comes up big against the Raptors tomorrow because we'll need em.
Phoenix Suns Triple OT Thriller, A Final Big Stage Encore From Nash And Hill - SB Nation Arizona
I hope we are treated to more games like this from Nash and Hill in the playoffs. I hope these two guys are back in Suns' uniforms next season doing what only they can do. But if not and this triple overtime game on a Tuesday night with the entire NBA community watching has to be their encore performance, the show couldn't have ended in a better way...except for the final score.
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The only thing I dislike more then Carter
Is losing to the Lakers!
http://nbhate.blogspot.com/
by GiuntaCore on Mar 23, 2011 12:04 AM MST reply actions 2 recs
everybody hated Carter for theses exact reasons in orlando as well
I mean yeah you guys got Gortat from us, but atleast we dont have to watch Carter waste away our time and the wonderful carreer he should have had, but he never will ive up to what he can truly accomplish beacuse simple HE DOESNT CARE
yes
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by Seth Pollack on Mar 23, 2011 7:59 AM MST up reply actions
Carter does suck
I’m not getting on anyone here supporting him because he’s a Sun but lets call it for what it is….He sucks. Gm’s need to quit paying this guy 17 million because he’s no more then a role player who plays bad defense gives up on plays. He’s the “Randy Moss” of the NBA. I would agree is on the GM’s that pay this guy the money, but man this guy is just an average player when it comes down to it.
Gm’s need to quit paying this guy 17 million
You’ll get your wish over the summer. Only reason he’s paid this much right now is cause he signed his contract 4 yrs ago.
Re-sign BAMF.
Can't they put clauses in a friggin contract
In his case…If you ever hit the NBA logo on the side of the backboard during a close game you have to be docked 7 million…LOL
that's why they get paid so much
because they’re professionals who should “care” no matter what the circumstances.
Twitter - @ceek23
"I have to say I've worked very few days of my life. I used to have to cut the lawn, and when I was in junior high school, I worked at a concession stand at a stadium."
-Steve Nash
No, that's just hypocrisy
“Should”, “would”, “could”. Whatever.
Comments of the night...
just go and read the game threads. Btw, that picture of Carter – bleeech.
"Who are we kidding?..."
Lol, I thought the same, but it's all they had.
Carter is receiving too much blame. He just shot poorly, but it’s Gentry’s fault for leaving him in on a bad shooting night.
Don't trade Dudley!
a lot of bad choices...
decisions and so on. I just sucks that a Win tonight vs the Fakers would huge after we gave everything… i don’t want to say it but they are just a better team and we made a bunch of mistakes. BTW, we still need someone to get the ball out of Steve’s hands and make a play. A lot of last season playoffs mishap flashbacks: rebounding lapses after great defense and Nash gets shutdown with noone to pass the ball to dribbling his way to defeat…
"Who are we kidding?..."
If anything this one is on Gentry.
I don’t feel like nit-picking though. The Suns have lost many close ones because we don’t have a go to guy. Having one of those makes things much more easier. There is Channing, but he’s not really a guy you can give the ball and say, “take it to the rack and draw a foul”.
Don't trade Dudley!
Our FO and Sarver...
better cough up the though and get us a consistent go to guy. Unless they want to go apeshit again and replace a 2 with a 5 or a 1 with .5 or a 4 with a 2.5.
"Who are we kidding?..."
what do you mean JUST?
an SG once-superstar should knock down some open jumpers
or, go figure, it they ain’t dropping no matter what – drive it to the basket
carter was happy to take and miss jumpers – 23 shots on less than 30% shooting – thats both bad shooting and bad-brain-freeze-decision making
Feed the cutter!!!
by Piotr Szczesniak on Mar 23, 2011 12:38 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah he sucked this game
He started really well, I liked his body language and focus in the 1st quarter, but since then – he reverted back to his alter-ego.
I disagree
IMO he didn’t change one bit.
Most of his shots were good looks. His motion looked OK, apart from some fade-away crazy bone headed jumpers – they were all GOOD DECISIONS.
but when you keep missing – you should just pass it to the other guy, or drive, or kill yourself… i dunno. he just seemed happy tp “play through it” for 35 minutes…
Feed the cutter!!!
by Piotr Szczesniak on Mar 23, 2011 8:19 AM MST up reply actions
Well to be his advocate for a bit
He’s not quick enough nowadays to get all the way to the rim, hasn’t posted up at all in this game, and didn’t play the pick and roll, and if and when he goes to the rim, he never gets any fouls called on him. Part of that is that he shies away from contact, part is stupid refereeing.
I agree. But he's a scapegoat.
LIke Amare was. You expect more from these guys becaue they are uber talented, but when it comes down to it they don’t reach their own hype. Amare was a great talent, but hell the Suns are doing better in a harder conference and the Knicks, well I had thought the Knicks would be .500 with Amare. Sarver, Amare, D’Antione, Joe Johnson, Gentry you look back on their respected careers and they have all had one common denominator…..Steve Nash
I wouldn't say Sarver has a "respected career" lol
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
The Suns should turn J-Chill's lack of range into a positive thing
Like have him roam the paint or giving him the ball and letting him take it to the rim when everyone else of his teammates are fixated on pulling jumpers after jumpers.
I don't care who starts anymore...
Too much chucking from Vince.
I actually feel better about Peaches’ shooting than Carter’s.
- MarsupialRogue
by MarsupialRogue on Mar 23, 2011 12:10 AM MST reply actions
And he has more heart, pacemaker and all.
"Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!"
~Admiral David Farragut
by East Bay Ray on Mar 23, 2011 11:24 AM MST up reply actions
Nash after the game
officially leads the league in assists average
no more
Nash’s average ups to 11.5, same as Rondo but has played 7 more games
by hear_seeker on Mar 23, 2011 12:18 AM MST up reply actions
wasn't rondo at
13+ apg month or two ago? I haven’t been following celtics that much, but it would be huge drop ion such a short time
Only cause he's god
He has omnivision.. how do you think he knows where everyone is on the court at all times?
Re-sign BAMF.
Seriously...
Everyone needs to get with the program. Steve Nash is God, plain and simple.
Haters gonna hate. But I still have faith. Believe in this team. It's not as bad as it seems. Go and sit down, son. Cuz these Phoenix Suns ain't done.
R.I.P. Nate Dogg. You provided some of the best hooks in rap ever.
He is?
Then why does he have sexual organs?
lol
He did lost a game against Kobe, But still he has a better education.
by sun_equalizer on Mar 23, 2011 3:13 PM MST up reply actions
Wow
Robin Lopez played 10 minutes and recieved 4 fouls?
Way to go Robin
Can we make a campaign for Gortat to win 6th man?
STOP! Hammer Time!
I know you're not the real Mr. ORNG,
but I totally saw him in the crowd and he looked pretty bummed out haha.
Twitter: @FredLegittt
by modernage13 on Mar 23, 2011 12:25 AM MST up reply actions
How can I change my name?
Nobody answers my comments,they just talk about the name
STOP! Hammer Time!
I have the same problem
except I want to cancel my membership with the Rocket’s SB blog. I only signed up so I could say nice things about Dragic. Is there any moderators you can email or something? If not, just make a new account. Did you know about him before you made this account or was it just a coincidence?
Twitter: @FredLegittt
by modernage13 on Mar 23, 2011 12:32 AM MST up reply actions
Didn't know
I’m from Germany and here I am the Mr.ORNG
STOP! Hammer Time!
email support@sbnation.com and ask them to change it
Raising Arizona Sports at SB Nation Arizona twitter: @sethpo
by Seth Pollack on Mar 23, 2011 12:38 AM MST up reply actions
But then don't tell that Orange asshole you changed the name
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Mar 23, 2011 1:05 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
he does seem to be falling in love with his
own legend a bit…doesn’t he?
Twitter - @ceek23
"I have to say I've worked very few days of my life. I used to have to cut the lawn, and when I was in junior high school, I worked at a concession stand at a stadium."
-Steve Nash
He's a cancer to the Suns.
Haters gonna hate. But I still have faith. Believe in this team. It's not as bad as it seems. Go and sit down, son. Cuz these Phoenix Suns ain't done.
R.I.P. Nate Dogg. You provided some of the best hooks in rap ever.
I'd like to know what our away record is with Mr ORNG in the crowd..
HAS to be worse than our TNT record and Orange Jersey record.
Re-sign BAMF.
Mr. ORNG curse.
Someone should ask him via Twitter. I would but the mere sight of his name makes me want to punch a child.
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Mar 23, 2011 11:53 AM MST up reply actions
Hide your children, folks.
Haters gonna hate. But I still have faith. Believe in this team. It's not as bad as it seems. Go and sit down, son. Cuz these Phoenix Suns ain't done.
R.I.P. Nate Dogg. You provided some of the best hooks in rap ever.
This is a whole new level of hatred from Scott than what I've seen before.
I’m intrigued. It would be like if one season Randy Johnson’s fastball had jumped 5MPH.
"Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!"
~Admiral David Farragut
by East Bay Ray on Mar 23, 2011 12:34 PM MST up reply actions
got a funny pic of Mr ORNG
I’ll post it soon
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
LOL
When they kept switching to him and then to the laker dude, he looked happy.
by abusingmyrib on Mar 23, 2011 3:26 AM MST up reply actions
Yes, I think we can make a strong case for Gortat to win it, but it will likely go to Odom or someone on a playoff team.
Don't trade Dudley!
I don't think Odom leads the league in double doubles off the bench
STOP! Hammer Time!
bench MY ASS
he is playing starter – AG is just weird about it
it’s not “if it ain’t broke…” – we are LOSING GAMES. maybe we wouldn’t if he changed the fuckin rotation
bench carter and lopez
Feed the cutter!!!
by Piotr Szczesniak on Mar 23, 2011 12:42 AM MST up reply actions
To be fair, Kobe was holding Grant by the jersey, so that's why Grant couldn't get a good handle on it.
Don't trade Dudley!
Which raises the question.
Was the play really drawn up for Grant Hill – being covered by Kobe Bryant – to take the shot? I tend to think Dudley panicked a bit and “checked down” real quick
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Mar 23, 2011 12:23 AM MST up reply actions
Did we have any timeouts?
Twitter: @FredLegittt
by modernage13 on Mar 23, 2011 12:24 AM MST up reply actions
Probably but I don't really know.
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Mar 23, 2011 12:25 AM MST up reply actions
I was thinking
maybe Dudley could have used it or something if he wasn’t confident enough to throw it.
Twitter: @FredLegittt
by modernage13 on Mar 23, 2011 12:30 AM MST up reply actions
Well guys, I'm sorry to break it to you,
but it doesn’t matter.
that's it guys
everyone get off the page, close down the blog, it doesn’t matter so we shouldn’t talk about it.
Twitter - @ceek23
"I have to say I've worked very few days of my life. I used to have to cut the lawn, and when I was in junior high school, I worked at a concession stand at a stadium."
-Steve Nash
Fair question.
I’m thinking the same thing too. However, Grant was in the post up position. That leads me to believe the play was drawled up for him.
Don't trade Dudley!
I think play was for frye
grant gets the ball and gortat makes screen for frye to take long 2 or even 3… same one as vs pacers… there was 2,5 left, enough for grant to get the pass to frye… will have to watch again to confirm that
Didn’t really want to make this known in the recap, but I believe Vince Carter was fouled by Gasol on his 3-point attempt which was the last shot of the 4rth quarter. I’d need to see a replay of it again, but he should have gotten 3 free throws. Than again he didn’t do a good job selling it when Gasol got him on his hand. Oh well, it’s over. It’s all said and done.
Don't trade Dudley!
Agreed
My dad and I both screamed that.
Twitter: @FredLegittt
by modernage13 on Mar 23, 2011 12:23 AM MST up reply actions
He was..
It was one of those fouls on the hand and as we say in pick up games “Hand is part of the ball”
Tough call for a ref to see and even tougher to call on a last second shot.
by oLLiE Boombayay on Mar 23, 2011 2:07 AM MST up reply actions
ya he was,
no way it gets called at the end of the game in the staples center, I can’t believe they called the one on Frye in OT either.
Twitter - @ceek23
"I have to say I've worked very few days of my life. I used to have to cut the lawn, and when I was in junior high school, I worked at a concession stand at a stadium."
-Steve Nash
Agreed. We can’t expect anyone to get that call. We were lucky to get the one on Frye.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Mar 23, 2011 10:00 AM MST up reply actions
tomorrow is another game
are we run out of gas?
He did lost a game against Kobe, But still he has a better education.
I'm sure the starters are, but this is a great opportunity for Brooks who I'm still dissapointed only saw 13 mintues when we was playing well.
Don't trade Dudley!
When "we was" playing well?
gangsta
Twitter: @FredLegittt
by modernage13 on Mar 23, 2011 12:36 AM MST up reply actions
ESPN just declared Laker fans "the best in sports."
I think I’m gonna throw up.
- MarsupialRogue
by MarsupialRogue on Mar 23, 2011 12:29 AM MST reply actions
Hahaha
Yahoo just called them the worst sports fans like a week ago or something. Take the celebs out and all you have is a bunch of ignorant rude fans who knows nothing about the sport. It’s like people rooting for Jeff Gordon in Nascar or Brett Favre in football.
Twitter: @FredLegittt
by modernage13 on Mar 23, 2011 12:35 AM MST up reply actions
Their justification was all the executives and celebrities in the Lakers' crowd.
Apparently that’s “diversity.”
- MarsupialRogue
by MarsupialRogue on Mar 23, 2011 12:36 AM MST up reply actions
Wait, why did that come up?
I’m not surprised though. If it was up to ESPN, it would be Lakers vs. Celtics no matter what.
I just saw an article saying they were the worst fans...
And then they said it was a good thing….
Didn't GQ or Forbes or Vanity Fair or something just call them the "worst fans in sports"?
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
This is hard
I feel crushed – didn’t even see the game. Steve deserves to win these games. Goddamn Kobe and the Faker fans.
Sounds like an incredible game. But we can’t afford to lose anything.
How have the Grizzlies and Blazers won so many in spite of the injury problems?
I actually was at the Blazers-Wizards game tonight (drove down from Victoria), and the Blazers just look so damn good.
No matter what, can the front office just try to keep the core of this team together next year? Without VC, we’ll be bloody good. We’ve got a foundation (again) that we shouldn’t screw with!
And we’ll likely have a long summer holiday to get rested and have guys work on their individual weaknesses.
No more messin' around - time to rise from the ashes!
by Frye (of Victoria, Canada) on Mar 23, 2011 12:37 AM MST reply actions
I agree
I don’t want them to trade Nash. If everybody plays well, I honestly think we can pull it off. We just need a legit power forward minus Vince Carter.
Twitter: @FredLegittt
by modernage13 on Mar 23, 2011 12:39 AM MST up reply actions
The sun sets the same way every day
An epic, heart-racing game indeed and we praise our player’s efforts, but a loss. It’s a letdown that we lost and seasons that had entertaining and bright 3OT games (2007, Nets-Suns) never ended up in a playoff victory. Of course one regular season game and general playoff success are not related, but after this game I think the sun is setting for the day. The sun is always so bright before it goes down for night. Every season we have our peak moments. 2010 our domination against the curse then loss against the lakers. 2007, having a chance to beat the spurs and David Stern and his angels don’t agree with us.
So close, yet so far.
P.S. I will remember this game for years, thank you Phoenix Suns
by 36_Chambers on Mar 23, 2011 12:40 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
Rec
This was my first time seeing a 3 OT Suns game.
Twitter: @FredLegittt
by modernage13 on Mar 23, 2011 12:48 AM MST up reply actions
That was the only one I could remember
Except that insane Nets game was both teams coming up huge over and over while this game had a ton of slop, airballs, non-calls on hacks, whining, and mental lapses by both teams.
by oLLiE Boombayay on Mar 23, 2011 2:01 AM MST up reply actions
I don't remember any 3 OT's
But I remember the 2 OT game against the Mavs a few years back. Same level of energy and excitement.
in March IN Dallas
oh lord that was incredible….Nash and Amare took over in the 4th/OT, while Matrix did his thing
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
was it 2 or 3 OT
in that first season of nash era, in the playoffs? when nash went for 40+ something?
Channing Frye has been money lately
Cha-ching Frye.
http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/
"Mishy gishy gushy gushy mishy mashy mushy VINCE CARTER!" - Lester Freamon
by Smoooth Criminal on Mar 23, 2011 1:01 AM MST reply actions
cool
He did lost a game against Kobe, But still he has a better education.
by sun_equalizer on Mar 23, 2011 1:26 AM MST up reply actions
sorry we are being too negative about the suns chances...
they just need to get through the raptors game…
the only real problem they face is that too many things need to fall into place…and the chance of some kind of F up is large…but I am sorry this is not a lottery team. we are better than NOH and arguably better than Memph..And I don’t think the disparity with the rest of the west is that large, when Nash is playing like he is now. With this Nash (a nash which he haven’t seen for the better part of almost 2 months), and with this Gortat and Frye, and with BAMF and dudley, we are right there with anyone in the west.
we just lost too many games, with all the roster shake ups, experiments, and injuries..and we aren’t as deep as we were last year, in terms of multiple guys consistently delivering off the bench.
by HarvMel on Mar 23, 2011 1:28 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
totally agree, Harv. A couple tweaks next year, and we could do well
by BringBackBarkley17 on Mar 23, 2011 10:02 AM MST up reply actions
Played hard, but not smart down the stretch
I hate to call out Steve Nash, but I put this loss on his shoulders. Although he had some great passes (especially the one from the sideline when he was trapped), but he made numerous ball handling mistakes in the 3rd overtime and just went into “dribble heaven” on several possessions.
They played hard this game and had numerous opportunities to win. They just can’t seem to perform in clutch situations. Too many possessions without taking a shot or having VC shoot it (virtually the same as not having a possession).Too bad that this loss hurts and could be a season killer. If they had done business against the clippers, 76ers, pistons, and kings then the season would not be down to this.
The Kings and Pistons games hurt the most
Because those teams are awful
Suns came up clutch many times in this game, just one clutch play short.
by oLLiE Boombayay on Mar 23, 2011 1:57 AM MST up reply actions
I'm going to stay optimistic
This game should show the team that they can run with the best in the NBA. They need to win the game against the Raptors no matter what. If they do, we’ll still have a chance. I think we can catch New Orleans/Memphis. We just need to keep winning.
The team is looking awesome. They need to rest up, get the win, and keep on moving forward. If they do, they so got this.
13 more games, 3 games to number 8
don’t lose hope
gotta beat Toronto and Boston must beat Memphis.
He did lost a game against Kobe, But still he has a better education.
I WAS THERE BROTHERS.
and boy was it tough, i had nothing to show my orange pride besides my raspy vocals that i would use to either encourage our suns or just talk smack about either team. i was pretty vocal and it was my first game i went to courtesy of my best friend.
so if anyone went let me know if you saw or heard a very loud Suns fan.
Oh..
There were barely any Suns fan, saw a Barbosa jersey on a girl but thats about it.
Laker fans were courteous to yelling and such.
The game was very intense, each and every time it went to overtime it was just a crazy vibe.
the only thing that pissed me off was when they didnt foul kobe or odom, and when Gortat was just holding the ball at our last possession not passing, no one was even trying to get the ball either. just a bad moment, but being at the game was AAAAAMAZING.
great recap btw!
by abusingmyrib on Mar 23, 2011 1:42 AM MST up reply actions
ps.
i forgot to include Mr. Orng he was shown on the big screen! GO MR ORNG!
it sucks being a Suns fan in LA
by abusingmyrib on Mar 23, 2011 1:43 AM MST up reply actions
btw,
On ESPN, Adande’s article says Kobe was really hoping to hurt Suns playoff chances, which is why they came out so intensely vs, the Suns and says he is always super motivated vs, Suns because of 2 playoff losses and because of Nash’s MVP rings, which he thinks, at least one should have been his.
Kobe must go to college
He did lost a game against Kobe, But still he has a better education.
by sun_equalizer on Mar 23, 2011 1:36 AM MST up reply actions
I wish he did
Then he wouldn’t be number 6 on the all time scoring list or whatever number he’s in. Him and LeBron has an advantage cause they get to play longer coming straight from high school.
Twitter: @FredLegittt
but he'd still be
an ass
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
If Kobe went to college now
He might get a life sentence due to the all the horny white girls.
by oLLiE Boombayay on Mar 23, 2011 2:44 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Kobe rape jokes are just so... classless.
And overdone.
Haters gonna hate. But I still have faith. Believe in this team. It's not as bad as it seems. Go and sit down, son. Cuz these Phoenix Suns ain't done.
R.I.P. Nate Dogg. You provided some of the best hooks in rap ever.
i kindda like that
at least that means one of the best players around respects us
More like bitter...
and jealous of MVPs with 5 rings?
by oLLiE Boombayay on Mar 23, 2011 2:42 AM MST up reply actions
Carter Sucks
I know that we are paying him millions, but he has consistently proved that he is not a clutch player. Why, oh why leave him in? do we not have more players.
We only love to complain about the glut of wing players
But I guess that means nothing during the game.
via Twitter
@SteveNash “Outcome not rad but teammates very rad. Proud of them. Need to win tonight vs Toronto. G’night people.”
Even after a devastating lost, he still has a little humor in him. That’s why he’s two-time MVP!
Twitter: @FredLegittt
Another word for 'cool' used in the 90's.
Glad Nash isn’t too devastated. Lets hope we don’t give away this easily winnable game tonight.
"Vince Carter likes cheese."
It's like hipster speak for "totally tubular".
Haters gonna hate. But I still have faith. Believe in this team. It's not as bad as it seems. Go and sit down, son. Cuz these Phoenix Suns ain't done.
R.I.P. Nate Dogg. You provided some of the best hooks in rap ever.
Since this is the Bright Side...
I am not going to talk about the missed chances, refs, or mistakes, but rather the funny texts I got from fans throughout the game
When Gortat was dominating in one of the overtimes:
“Gor-taking-over!”
“Gor-tater-tot!”
On VC’s bricks:
“We should trade Carter for some burger and fries and call it even”
“VInce Crater: A Big Hole”
On Ron Artest kissing his biceps:
“Artesticle” , “Artestfukbox”
by oLLiE Boombayay on Mar 23, 2011 2:14 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
so many feelings right now
I’ll stick with the positives…many suns players (not all) played very very well. Nash and BAMF were FANTASTIC!!!! and i love our new starting center.
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
Did you notice how Kobe smelled blood once Hill fouled out?
by oLLiE Boombayay on Mar 23, 2011 2:45 AM MST up reply actions
FUCK YA!!!!!
Grant did great on kobe I wish Gentry would have put peaches in to guard him when grant fouled out…but it probably wouldn’t have helped, grant had kobe’s # and Gortat did a very good job on Gasol. almost one the greatest suns games I’ve seen
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
yeah..
the fans were so happy when he got fouled out, they knew now kobe could roam free. then right after hill fouls out.. kobe hits a dagger 3
by abusingmyrib on Mar 23, 2011 3:17 AM MST up reply actions
they really were
after the time out when kobe got 2 easy buckets…I knew grant was gonna come out in lock down mode, and he did in epic fashion ,BAMF fouling out was a turning point
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
that's literally
one of the three mistakes that cost us the game.
by abusingmyrib on Mar 23, 2011 3:28 AM MST up reply actions
Gentry doesn't have confidence in Pietrus or Childress
Hard to blame him, but Suns could have used somebody else in the OTs
by oLLiE Boombayay on Mar 23, 2011 4:07 AM MST up reply actions
by the way
you know how you could text a msg to a certain number and it will show on the LED banner-ish thing underneath the screen. i put GO SUNS!!!!!!!!!!!- david.
no one else put a suns comment :|
not that i know of
i did it @ staple stadium
by abusingmyrib on Mar 23, 2011 4:06 AM MST up reply actions
Mhm
yes sir, it literally said
GO SUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!- david
by abusingmyrib on Mar 23, 2011 7:19 AM MST up reply actions
That's sweet...
Did you get a pic on your phone/camera?
by oLLiE Boombayay on Mar 23, 2011 12:34 PM MST up reply actions
From the Lakers blog
We’ll end things with a eulogy for Vince Carter. As the rest of his team was making all the right moves to give them the best chance for victory, VC just killed his team tonight. He scored 17 points, but it took him 23 shots to get there, including a woeful 2-13 from downtown. He had a chance to end this game in regulation, but he missed a three at the buzzer. He was the only guy, on either team, to be subbed out in the overtime periods because the coach just wanted somebody else in the game. And he took a terrible, unnecessary shot on the Suns penultimate possession, a shot that effectively sealed the contest in L.A.‘s favor. And his plus/minus is almost impossibly laughable. He’s perilously close to being the only Suns player in the negative, and he was -20. You could make a statistical case that he single handedly lost this game for the Suns. Woof.
If Vince Carter is a corpse
then the Lakers were necrophiliacs tonight
by oLLiE Boombayay on Mar 23, 2011 4:09 AM MST up reply actions
yup
what’s “funny” is how well he started the game too….he was aggressive, hit some shots, and looked like he ran out of gas….after the 1st quarter.
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by Seth Pollack on Mar 23, 2011 8:06 AM MST up reply actions
that is why he took 23 shots - high ego/self esteem
he “knew” he “had to keep shoooting”
Feed the cutter!!!
by Piotr Szczesniak on Mar 23, 2011 8:38 AM MST up reply actions
No, I don't agree with this
The vast majority of shots were open shots, and desperation (shot clock running low) shots. He should’ve drove more towards the basket and play in the post, I’ll definitely give you that. But he missed otherwise makeable shots.
Even I'm LOLing at the crowd that doesn't think he should have taken that last 3
He’s GOT to take that. (also has to make it…but that’s another matter)
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Mar 23, 2011 10:48 AM MST up reply actions
He did do some good stuff though
A few timely assists in the clutch moments of the game (one to Grant and two to Channing if I’m not mistaken) and a very nice screen to set Channing free in OT on a clutch shot (I think at the end of 2nd OT).
These things go un-noticed as well.
I don't think I'm ready to see Carter on the next game ><
Steve Nash can only give 100 percent. The other 10 percent he donates them to charities.
good
he can stay on the bench :)
Steve Nash can only give 100 percent. The other 10 percent he donates them to charities.
Vince Carter is sitting out game vs Raps
Injured tricep from heaving bricks.
by oLLiE Boombayay on Mar 23, 2011 4:04 AM MST up reply actions
i just lol'd in my mind
when he took a falling fade away jumper with like 20 secs remaining.
by abusingmyrib on Mar 23, 2011 4:05 AM MST up reply actions
Kobe actually had some crucial misses
One airball, one that barely hit the backboard, and many bricks. Suns just couldn’t turn those mistakes into a win, just overtimes. Kobe also came back and made up for his mistakes, while Vince is like a homeless guy, an easy scapegoat, that people love to kick when he is down. Such is life when you are a baller.
by oLLiE Boombayay on Mar 23, 2011 4:22 AM MST up reply actions
Also - kobe was taking an array of different shots.
He drove to the rim, he got some assists, hit some jumpers.
If VC kept missing wide open shots the chance his gonna make a crazy-ass backbreaker was quite smallish
Feed the cutter!!!
by Piotr Szczesniak on Mar 23, 2011 8:41 AM MST up reply actions
VC is much less athletic at this point to do that
He should play much more in the post
you should tell him that
if AG doesn’t have the balls
Feed the cutter!!!
by Piotr Szczesniak on Mar 23, 2011 11:41 AM MST up reply actions
Yes
but that comment was in 2011 not 2006.
by abusingmyrib on Mar 24, 2011 12:54 AM MST up reply actions
If I could blame someone for the game it would be Gentry and Carter....
Carter…Dude, if the shot isn’t falling try to get fouled or something and Gentry…Triple Over Time and Hill fouls out and you BRING CARTER WHO WAS 6-21 IN? DID YOU THINK HE WAS GOING TO MAGICALLY NOT SUCK? That’s not the only reason for blaming Gentry…I thought choosing Dudley to do in the inbound pass was a bad idea, and I thought he could’ve choose a lot better plays to end the game with. I love Gentry since he’s a chemistry builder and shows faith in his guys but from a cerebral stand point….As a play caller he leaves me scratching my head almost every game.
"Look, don't relax on Hakim Warrick, Josh Smith. He'll put it on your face in a hurry."-Eddie Johnson aka Best. Commentator. Ever.
Well if he didn't brought VC back in, then he might've missed whatever VC revelation might have had in OT
So if he doesn’t get him back in and loses, people will wonder why VC wasn’t put in, maybe he would make one or two baskets and that’s it… who knows?
Noone, I repeat, Noone would wonder.
Wait… no, not even the guy rooting for VC his entire life gave up.
Seriously: nobody believes he has it in him anymore. Carter taking 23 shots is almost like Gortat trying to shoot 3’s each game.
If Gentry wants Carter to put up so many shots – he is a bad coach. I don’t think the teammates expected it.
What would you think if, say, all of a sudden, Matt Barnes took 20 shots.
This is who VC is right now. Wait…only he doesn’t play defense….
Feed the cutter!!!
by Piotr Szczesniak on Mar 23, 2011 8:46 AM MST up reply actions
He played great in the 1st quarter
And his career recommends (and even the last few games with consecutive 29 and 32 points) he’s still able to score efficiently. He missed open shots.
On the Bright side of things...
We didn’t get slammed on the boards….
Gortat was a man and handled his defensive assignments…
Nash is back to his studley self…
Pietrus is becoming a permanent fixture on the Suns defensive outlook…
Hill is still a BAMF…
Channing Frye is developing into a SICK Power Forward. Against the tandem of Odom and Gasol Frye had 32 POINTS with only 5 threes. That is impressive people. That plus the 14 rebounds has really got me excited for Channing’s development.
"We never tried Amar'e, Nash, and a live Grizzly bear." -Scott Howard, January 18, 2010
also
best game for Brooks as a Sun…although I still want him shooting more instead of MP. But then again, maybe he just doesn’t care:
The Suns won the game, making the suspension irrelevant now to Brooks.
“I just really don’t care,” he said.
Raising Arizona Sports at SB Nation Arizona twitter: @sethpo
by Seth Pollack on Mar 23, 2011 8:08 AM MST up reply actions
Hmm
Thats disheartening. Granted it is out of context but whats going on there? Does he realize he is free after this season?
"We never tried Amar'e, Nash, and a live Grizzly bear." -Scott Howard, January 18, 2010
yes
he was talking about the suspension, but you don’t ever say you don’t care. Regardless.
I’ve not been impressed w/ the way he’s handled himself at all. His body language on the court is bad and he carries himself in a way that’s not stood out in a good way. He’s just kind of there…although I have seen him goofing off w/ Hak and Josh after practice a bit.
Mostly, he strikes me as sullen. That’s the best word I can use for his attitude.
I’ve not said anything about it before b/c I want to give him some time.
He had a good 4th quarter last night (playing w/ Frye). Lets see if he steps up tonight when the bench is really going to be needed.
Raising Arizona Sports at SB Nation Arizona twitter: @sethpo
by Seth Pollack on Mar 23, 2011 9:02 AM MST up reply actions
I have unloaded my frustration
found an old copy of NBA 2008 Live for my PC and crushed the Lakers with Nash, Marion, Hill, Amare and Tucker (no idea who the last guy is, but he is pretty good in that game). 120-103.
Alea iacta est!
That's because I am playing NBA Live 2008 lol
He is really great in that game.
Alea iacta est!
by PolishHammer on Mar 23, 2011 9:30 AM MST up reply actions
he's
playing in Russia right now
Raising Arizona Sports at SB Nation Arizona twitter: @sethpo
by Seth Pollack on Mar 23, 2011 9:34 AM MST up reply actions
Alando Tucker is actually really oddly good in NBA 2K8
Athletic, can slash…
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
which
he could do in real life as well…just couldn’t shoot or defend the wing very well
He was PF in college and couldn’t adjust to playing the 2 or the 3 at the NBA level.
Raising Arizona Sports at SB Nation Arizona twitter: @sethpo
by Seth Pollack on Mar 23, 2011 3:38 PM MST up reply actions
After all, as sceptic as I was on the Vince Carter case, I was (sadly) right
I could’nt see the game (God forgive me), and now I work all day, but this game seems to be one of the craziest games of the season. I’m terribly sad for Steve, Grant, Marcin, Channing… when I read your comments, it seems like they were heroic all game long.
This B2B against Toronto will be tough, but they need to remain positive. The Grizzlies’ next 3 games : boston, SA, chicago…
Who knows…
"After the game, my teammates congratulated and joked around with me. Alvin came to me and said, "Kid, you see? Every game you can play like that!" The players were joking around with me, calling me Goran Jordan"
I didnt get to se the game
would we have been better off with mp or childress trying to guard kobe after hill fouled out?
Lover,Poet,Suns fan,All around damn good guy.
I don't know about Childress about MP would have been a great choice
When Gortat was still playing for the Magic, I used to watch their games a lot and MP did really a great job at defending when the Magic got to the Finals 2 years ago. His shooting might be erratic and his BBall IQ is not very high but he really knows how to defend tough.
Alea iacta est!
by PolishHammer on Mar 23, 2011 7:22 AM MST up reply actions
Yup.
He is a top 20 1-on-1 defender at SG/SF.
Feed the cutter!!!
by Piotr Szczesniak on Mar 23, 2011 8:48 AM MST up reply actions
In my hindsight genius I would have gone with Pietrus
Kobe had some nagging injuries and was going with jumpers. He can easily blow by MP, but Pietrus’ wingspan really makes shooters adjust. Grant Hill is pretty good at defending jump shots because he can get right in your face, but not foul.
by oLLiE Boombayay on Mar 23, 2011 12:39 PM MST up reply actions
Vince has 13 games left in purple and orange
Thank god!!!!!!!!!!! But for the life of me I can not figure out why alvin continues to “kiss his ass” with playing time he dosent deserve?Think about it, orlando wanted to jet his ass so bad they took a hedo with huge money they wouldnt pay 2 years ago when his skills were even better,and gave up gortat and first rounder=pure chemistry killer with eroded skills!
Lover,Poet,Suns fan,All around damn good guy.
Everything has positive and negative effects.
Also this trade.
+1 Giving up Hedo who would never fit into the Suns team and had a horrible contract
+1 Getting Gortat, who is turning into a top 10 center, and MP
+1 Getting Vince’s contract, which gives the Sun cap space next season (I assume the Suns won’t keep him lol)
-1 Vince Carter himself
-1 Letting go of J.Rich and the first round pick
-1 Losing time and games while the new players (especially Gortat for the pick and roll with Nash) needed time to adjust. Those losses vs the Clippers, Detroit, Bobcats and twice against 76ers late November and in December would have put the Suns at 40-29 instead of 35-34.
We will probably miss the playoffs this season, but as long we keep Nash (and he declared he would be happy to stay next season) the Suns could have a very good team next season. The Suns just to find a good replacement for Carter but otherwise the team looks good. Nash, Frye, Gortat, Hill, Dudley, MP, Brooks are solid players to build a team around for next season.
Alea iacta est!
by PolishHammer on Mar 23, 2011 7:43 AM MST up reply actions
-1 on Vince’s contract. He costs more than JRich this season and the Suns have to pay him $4m to buy out his final year (or they have to pay him $18m next year).
JRich’s contract was expiring as well. JRich contract > Vince contract
But taking Vince was the price the Suns had to pay to get Gortat and getting rid of Hedo.
If the Suns could have done that deal w/o swapping Carter for JRich they surely would have and they would be a much, much better team right now.
Raising Arizona Sports at SB Nation Arizona twitter: @sethpo
by Seth Pollack on Mar 23, 2011 8:12 AM MST up reply actions
Ok I didn't know about that 4-milion buy-out option.
So if I am correct, the Suns will have 14m to spend on a new player if they buy out Vince? Who do you think would be the best replacement for Vince, Seth?
Alea iacta est!
by PolishHammer on Mar 23, 2011 8:22 AM MST up reply actions
This summer is so different than most b/c of the labor negotiations. No one knows what the rules will be so it’s a very hard market to handicap.
JRich will be a free agent though, but he probably wants a bigger contract than the Suns will want to give him. He makes a ton of sense on a team like the Bulls who already have a star or two. But what the Suns need more than anything is a number one option and if they spend their money on a guy like Jason that will limit their ability to find one.
The biggest mistake they could make is giving franchise—player money to guys who aren’t franchise players. Look at what Detroit did w/ their salary cap. They spent too much on Charlie Villuneuva and Ben Gordon and now they are hosed.
My guess, the Suns will try and find young assets and possibly trade Nash and Lopez to get what they can. I think they have their eyes set on the 2012 when there are more top-notch free agents available.
The players they have to build around – Frye, Gortat, Dudley — are good but not good enough to lead a team. Then they need to decide if they like Brooks enough to give him a multi-year deal and keep him as the starting PG if they do move Nash.
Honestly, I don’t see how next season — however long it is — doesn’t end up very bad for the Suns.
Raising Arizona Sports at SB Nation Arizona twitter: @sethpo
by Seth Pollack on Mar 23, 2011 8:34 AM MST up reply actions
How depressing...
Who is going to be around in 2012? I haven’t heard anything about that class. But then again it is college hoops so…tons of things can change from now to then. Why kill ourselves next season for a class we can’t possibly predict?
"We never tried Amar'e, Nash, and a live Grizzly bear." -Scott Howard, January 18, 2010
2012
free agent class..
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by Seth Pollack on Mar 23, 2011 8:56 AM MST up reply actions
Seth first time you said that in the future Suns Should build tema around
Fry, GORTAT, Dudley. Did Gortat convince you?
I don't
know why you people think I hate Gortat….I just don’t LOVE him as much as others.
I’ve never talked about the core moving forward. Personally, I would also keep Robin but I don’t think the Suns will. In fact, I am going to write a “Don’t Give Up On Robin Yet” article as soon as I can find the time.
Gortat was always the best part of that trade (said so at the time). Just be careful not to expect him to score like this when Nash is gone.
Consider this:
The Lakers were switching the pick and rolls to contain Nash and prevent the roll man from getting open or drawing help. So what do the Suns do?
They run the pick and roll with Nash and Frye to get Frye iso’d on Fisher and then work in to him.
Why wouldn’t they run the pick and roll with Nash and Gortat at that point and get Gortat the ball in the post against Fisher? Gortat is a better passer and Frye spaces the floor. Where as with Frye having the ball in the post, Gortat is closer to the paint which made it easier to double team Frye.
The reason they didn’t run the 1/5 pick and roll (despite the advantages of having Frye on the perimeter playing off the ball) is b/c they don’t trust Gortat’s post game enough even against a guard.
So again, I like a LOT of what Marcin does and I love who he is as a player and a person. But he’s not creating his own shot which is going to become a big liability once Nash is gone unless they find a really good pick and roll guard to replace him…or if Marcin dramatically improves his post offense.
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by Seth Pollack on Mar 23, 2011 9:40 AM MST up reply actions
I agree with you. I also think that he have to inpove his play.
He knows about it. I read many time his interview for Polish papers and he always said what he has to do to be better. But ,to be honest for men who was three year back up for Howard and who had to play only defense, he improve a lot. I shouldn’t expect, that he will be All Star , however everything can happen I wish him the best.
Perhaps you are right
But I have seen make him those hook shoots with both arms without any assists and his jumper is getting better too, as well as his free shots. Currently he is nr. 5 in the NBA in FG%. Even without Nash he still could be a 15/10/2blk player and he has a pretty good passing and BB IQ. But as you said, it all depends on the PG, Gortat needs at least 60-70% of his points from a good PNR.
But for the first I think the Suns shouldn’t trade Lopez. Now that I have seen so many games of the Suns, I was wrong to criticize your article about the potential of Lopez. He really is a good, athletic player but his problem seems to be more of a mental issue. It’s like he is not 100% focused all the time. The problem with those kind of mental problems, that you can’t predict the outcome. Lopez might recover and become the great player he was or fade away. But it would be stupid to trade him. What center could we get in return?
Alea iacta est!
by PolishHammer on Mar 23, 2011 9:56 AM MST up reply actions
you
specifically, I was thinking about you
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by Seth Pollack on Mar 23, 2011 11:36 AM MST up reply actions
I hope he'll sill improve his game. I count on it. I want to be proud from Marcin.
We don’t have to much sportsman like Gortat.
no reason not to be proud of him…
Look, Kendrick Perkins is a disaster on offense. Ben Wallace can’t hit an uncontested layup.
Very few players are great on both ends of the floor…they are called super stars. Gortat is not a super star. He’s a very nice player. There’s nothing wrong with that.
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by Seth Pollack on Mar 23, 2011 9:46 AM MST up reply actions
I still think that he can be much better.
That ceiling Seth is talking about IMO is higher for Gortat than for Lopez.
He has great instincts, knows his limitations, has great b-ball IQ and IS STILL IMPROVING. month to month basis even.
I will stop talking all-star when I see him after this offseason without a better-than-average post game.
If gets his post moves right (say, to D-12’s level) he will be a monster. He is very mobile, he has a very decent mid-range shot for a C, rebounds quite well on offense… all he is missing is some post game and that is not even 100% true. he has a great spin-to-up-and-under move, a fade away and some nice hook shots with both hands.
he actually has trouble with POSTING UP not finishing, and I believe this can be addressed in 3-4 months of training.
I stand by my words – he can be an 18-12-2 player. THAT is his ceiling.
Feed the cutter!!!
by Piotr Szczesniak on Mar 23, 2011 9:53 AM MST up reply actions
My respect for you has grown.
You are real objective men. I know that your opinion is truly. I suspect you also wait which way Gortat go.
sure
all that really matters is how the Suns view him when making roster moves this offseason…the rest is just us waiting to see what he actually does
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by Seth Pollack on Mar 23, 2011 11:32 AM MST up reply actions
hammer
we will not have a 14mil slot to sign a player,Because we are over the cap.Just like we only had I think about 7mill after amares 17 mil came off the books,however it does give us a lil breathing room.New cba could be huge factor in suns economics going forward.
Lover,Poet,Suns fan,All around damn good guy.
Seth
Thats what i was trying to say,I think from orlandos perspective it was more about getting rid of vince than aquiring a guy like j-rich,This whole league was foaming at the mouth for gortat we were fortunate enough to have j-rich and his complimentary salary for a carter swap.
Lover,Poet,Suns fan,All around damn good guy.
well
like I said at the time, Gortat was the best part of the deal but they sacrificed this season in order to get him.
I think that’s played out.
Raising Arizona Sports at SB Nation Arizona twitter: @sethpo
by Seth Pollack on Mar 23, 2011 9:03 AM MST up reply actions
I agree
If enduring the pain of carter is our price for gortat im ok,He has been a joy to watch.JUst dont understand why alvin sticks with him {carter} so much.
Lover,Poet,Suns fan,All around damn good guy.
Don't forget the extra -.5
For that 4 mil. buyout on VC will count against the 2011-’12 cap space. Yes even when Vince is gone, his name will still be holding the Suns back.
Orlando threw in 3mil cash to cover most of the difference on Jrich contract vs VC contract. I think it ends up being 1 mil and some change. About the amount of a raise that Amundson was seeking :(
It’s pretty amazing that VC was able to get that last contract from NJ.
by oLLiE Boombayay on Mar 23, 2011 12:45 PM MST up reply actions
Let's start a new club
the Official Countdown to The End of Vince Carter in PHX Club
OCTEVCPC meetings take place after each game.
The members exchange high-fives after each game, no matter win or loss, knowing, they are getting closer and closer to a wonderful new chapter in suns history….
Feed the cutter!!!
by Piotr Szczesniak on Mar 23, 2011 8:51 AM MST up reply actions
You're a funny guy, Raptorel.
"Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!"
~Admiral David Farragut
by East Bay Ray on Mar 23, 2011 10:48 AM MST up reply actions
You know what's the worst?
If he was on a decent contract and playing down to his current potential, he could probably be the 6th man is some playoff teams.
he would need to change his game and play away from his old strengths byt still, he could be… quarter-amazing!
Feed the cutter!!!
by Piotr Szczesniak on Mar 23, 2011 11:48 AM MST up reply actions
1/2 Man - 1/4 Amazing!
The last 1/4 consisting of beard trimmings and really big smiles
by oLLiE Boombayay on Mar 23, 2011 12:48 PM MST up reply actions
I have a question:
What would you say right now if Vince would’ve make that 3 point shot game winner at the end of regulation time?
I tell you what. Once your boy actually does that, you can check here and find out.
You know what they say about "if"s: If my aunt had testicles she’d be my uncle.
"Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!"
~Admiral David Farragut
by East Bay Ray on Mar 23, 2011 10:51 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd say....great shot Vince.
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Mar 23, 2011 10:52 AM MST up reply actions
And follow it up with
That was one in a million.
Then Vince and I would do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSZB0NjRqzc
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Mar 23, 2011 10:54 AM MST up reply actions
Don't do that...
Unless you want him to smile at you.
But we'd have medals.....that'd be pretty sweet.
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Mar 23, 2011 10:56 AM MST up reply actions
He has one
2000, Sydney. Remember? Frederic Weis does.
Don't think Princess Leia gave him that one.
Or maybe she did. I think Carrie Fisher will pretty much do whatever for cash these days
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Mar 23, 2011 10:58 AM MST up reply actions
Does that mean I confused you beyond belief?
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Mar 23, 2011 11:02 AM MST up reply actions
That shot really really sucked... he was like 3 feet away from the rim on that attempt
No idea what was up with that.
I'd say
wow, nice shot! Why did you miss those free throws against OKC?
by oLLiE Boombayay on Mar 23, 2011 12:49 PM MST up reply actions
To make the game more interesting
We don’t want boring, free throw shooting games.
Man..
Being my first NBA game and PHO being my favourite team as well, I am forever traumatized. I just don’t feel right looking at NBA playing 2k11. If they only won.
wow that was your first game?!
That’s like going to your first baseball game and getting hit in the head with a foul ball and then the home team sues you for bleeding on their seats.
My first game was Suns vs. Bullets. I damn near cried because I didn’t get the free basketball they gave away that day and EVERYBODY in my class got one. Even the fat kid!
by oLLiE Boombayay on Mar 23, 2011 12:51 PM MST up reply actions
LOL
@ even the fat kid.
yes that was my first game, i know. very very bittersweet.
by abusingmyrib on Mar 24, 2011 12:54 AM MST up reply actions
Very entertaining game
Even though the ending makes me want to rip my hair out and kick a Laker fan in the nuts.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Phoenix Suns/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
by JoeCB1991 on Mar 23, 2011 7:43 AM MST via mobile reply actions
I must admit
I really thought Carter would at least be a decent option, Boy I was wrong. It will be good to see him go. Lopez really has been a huge disappointment. Why in the world does this front office make a deal for Brooks ( giving up a 1 and Dragic) then end up playing Brooks in a Triple OT game 13 minutes? No sense.
I just hope the Suns use there Number 1 to get some youth, and length. Hope that Lawal will turn into a decent option off the bench and Hill and Nash still can produce at this level next year. Sadly I see a lock out in the NBA which will be uglier than the NFL.
What a Game!!
I stayed up until 2 AM (east coast suns fan) and it was all worth it, even though it was a bitter ending. Great play by Gortat, Frye, Steve and who else but BAMF himself. If this happened 10 games earlier it would have been a confidence builder, however the goal is still there with 10 games remaining. Go for it SUNS!!!
Nice
Despite the loss, this was a great game. The 2 things I couldn’t take was VC taking those shots, he was horrible in the 2nd half. And Gentry continuing to play VC despite his poor performance. I love the effort coming back from 21 and rallying numerous times. I have a good feeling about his team, there is still hope.
This was such a great game to watch
especially after the crapfest that Atlanta pulled on national television before this one. Such a great game and even though you guys lost, I always respect the Suns. So much win in this game with the effort, even if it wasn’t a win in the standings. Great game guys, Nash and Hill are so awesome
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by Marty Mart on Mar 23, 2011 9:10 AM MST reply actions 2 recs
Rec
See guys, not all Lakers fans are bad. Thank you Sir!
Alea iacta est!
by PolishHammer on Mar 23, 2011 9:11 AM MST up reply actions
That was my post yesterday.
If only Suns stop Bryant (a little bit)andLopezwith Gortat stop Gasol
Steve and Frye will be able to play the same way like Sunday. andVC remind us how to score. Ouch ,I think is near impossible ,HOWEVER, I believe they can do this.
I think that was close.
Frye had career high 32 p. It is not easy to score so many points.
Everybody played at their maximum. All people even the guards MUST shoot closer to the basket for better percentages. Dont forget defence. In order to win you must score first 2-0 and then good defence 2-0 again and then good offence 4-0 etc. Its that simple.
Suns held
Lakers to 44.2% shooting. That’s very good D, especially against a team that good.
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by Seth Pollack on Mar 23, 2011 9:43 AM MST up reply actions
Gortat's flush is nr 3 on Daily Top 5 on nba.com
check out nr 1 guys.
NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT.
JAW-DROPPER…
Feed the cutter!!!
by Piotr Szczesniak on Mar 23, 2011 9:22 AM MST reply actions
For today
I am not concerned with the playoff picture. I’m just damn proud of our guys*. There should be a goddamn parade welcoming them back to town after the guts they showed last night*.
Channing Frye has balls of steel. To everyone (including myself) that has bemoaned the lack of a PF this year, our PF has arrived, and he is an ice cold motherfucker. We need a wing-scorer that a) isn’t a role player and b) isn’t Vince Carter. Don’t need a PF anymore.
SARCASM ALERT: Kobe Bryant displayed excellent, excellent shot selection in crunch time.
Even if our guys miss the playoffs, I really, really like this team*. Sarver and the front office might deserve some (or maybe a lot of) criticism, but these players* have deserved all of our support.
*Except Vince Carter
I smell like the vault. I'm so PAID.
by RMason on Mar 23, 2011 9:36 AM MST reply actions 5 recs
Personally, I don't really have a problem with this loss.
While I like the Suns more than the Lakers, I happen to like both teams (not like how I hate the Heat or Celtics), and while I think the Suns certainly needed the win far more than the Lakers, I’m also glad I got to see the Suns take the defending champions to the limit in what was a very good game (minus anything Vince Carter was involved with). Even though there’s no such thing as a moral victory, this would pretty much be as close as it gets.
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Revenge is ice cream.
Kobe Bryant
I can’t think of the last superstar, all time great, who absolutley has to have another franchise player playing alongside of him. Kobe gets all the credit becaue he is a great clutch scorer, but please he’s not Michael, not Larry, not Magic, not even Hakeem or Shaq.
Michael, Magic, and Larry didn't have other superstars around them?
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by Scott Howard on Mar 23, 2011 9:53 AM MST up reply actions
I agree, they had superstars
But I beleive those guys made “role players” superstars. Kevin Mchale I don’t think was a franchise player or James Worthy. They were superstars. They last team I can think of with 2 franchise players is this Miami Heat team
You think Pau Gasol is a franchise player?
He’s certainly not a Hall of Famer like McHale, Parish, Dennis Johnson, James Worthy, Kareem or Scottie Pippen
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by Scott Howard on Mar 23, 2011 9:59 AM MST up reply actions
Yea bro
Pau Gasol was a franchise player and I beleive is the best power forward in todays game. I agree, in today’s game Gasol is not a hall of famer. Its weird how that works, but its what I think. Greg Pop after the trade was made 4 years ago was livid, he wanted an investigation, on how the lakers got him in the first place. Pau is a franchise player…Wouldn’t you want him in Phoenix?
I'd absolutely want him here.
However when he did have his own team (Memphis) he couldn’t even help them win a playoff game. I think he’s a really good 2nd guy.
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by Scott Howard on Mar 23, 2011 10:22 AM MST up reply actions
Memphis sucked
He took Memphis to the playoffs. You know thats about as far as anyone could have taken them. Gasol always had good numbers, they were never eye popping was always consistant. Gasol was a high prospect, what if he was still in Memphis now, with Rudy Gay would they up there…I think so.
He’s a good 2nd guys to Kobe Bryant, thats proven. But I think Pau Gasol was a franchise player not as great as a Lebron James, but fundamentally as good as Duncan, with talent somewhere between Kevin Mchale and Dirk.
Think of KG and the Twolves.
He bearly got them out of the first round. Then he goes to the Celtics and they win it all. Obviously getting Gasol put the Lakers over the top as well
Exactly
Thats basically what it is. I’m not hating on Kobe, but atleast the Celtics embraced how they were doing it and what they were doing. Each guy knew they weren’t the “guy” no more. Did I see Kobe try to take over that game last night and just sucked trying to do it. The game wasn’t won until again, their bigs, just being BIG wore out the suns.
@jay16 - CRAP CRAP CRAP
I am no big fan of Kobe, but he is one of the top-5 all time.
Each one of those guys had a lot of help and none could single handedly carry the team to wins. MJ had massive scoring seasons and didn’t get a ring until Scottie arrived.
Mamba is a MoFoColdBlooded killer and I at least respect that old-school attitude (copared to the new age softies Queen Crab and MeloMan)
Feed the cutter!!!
by Piotr Szczesniak on Mar 23, 2011 9:57 AM MST up reply actions
Agreed
I hate the Lakers, I hate Kobe Bryant as a player, I hate him as a person, I hate his playing style. But he is genius in the game of basketball. He is The Joker, the Green Goblin, Lex Luthor, Two-Face Bane, Magneto, Venom and Doctor Doom in one. He has a huge ego, he tough and he always wants to win. And that’s why he is so good.
Alea iacta est!
by PolishHammer on Mar 23, 2011 10:06 AM MST up reply actions
Kobe Bryant
Even has to use the same coach Michael had…Same offense. You tell me, these laker teams scare you? Have you watched those same Bulls teams under Phil Jackson? Did you see their defense?
After saying all that…This Laker team is the most talented team Phil Jackson has ever coached, its just a joke. So, I disagree. You make good points, I didn’t take it personally, its certainly debatable because of his championship rings. Kobe is a winner no doubt.
Please dont compare Kobe to Michael
I disagree….He is not one of the top 5.
1. How many MVP’s has Kobe won
2. How many scoring titles
3. How many rings without having the most talented teams in the league. The Bulls were never the most “talented”. They had some of the oldest players. Rodman was considered washed up, Steve Kerr, Ron Harper, washed up
Not every one
of those guys had alot of help. Hakeem had a bunch of role players for that first ring. No one on that team could even claim star status much less franchise player status.
It maybe just me, I'm bitter.
I sat there and watched the game last night more in awe of how Nash played then Kobe. Then I started thinking about Kobe’s rings, MVP’s and the unbelievable talent he has to have in order to squeak by the Suns last night. Gasol is the real MVP of these laker teams with Bryant. He causes a matchup problem with everyone except Dirk or Duncan. He is the “white version” of the big fundamental, only the Lakers got him in his prime in a low ball deal.
Its probably me bro. Suns play with heart, they got some guys with balls on this team. Not Carter
Here is one and I'm out.
During the Shaq years….Kobe Bryant was Shaq’s “Pau Gasol”……Nash has more MVP’s, Duncan more MVP’s, its arguable when its all said and done Kobe may have not been the best in his era…
disagree
Duncan had Robinson, Parker… he wasn’t even the focal point of their offense.
I would say Pops was always the MVP of SAS title teams.
Nash, well he is a God, but no ring, no glory. Malone and Barkley were no scrubs either and they can’t be in the same sentence as Shaq, Kobe, Duncan…
Feed the cutter!!!
by Piotr Szczesniak on Mar 23, 2011 10:00 AM MST up reply actions
Parker was on that team?
I didn’t know Parker was a franchise player either, I mean does Parker go to the Pistons and re shape them into a playoff contender or is Tony Parker just a good point guard? I’m not following the Malone and Barkley reference either
You don't get to be in the sentence "the best of an era"
without a ring. so forget Nash, Iverson and some other superstars.
I wouldn’t consider Nash to be better then Charles Barkley, and you simply can’t argue Barkley was the best player of the 90’s.
Robinson and Duncan were much like Stockalone – a duo. Shaq and Kobe were pretty much the same.
Kobe is the best of his era because he has multiple rings with two very different teams, has a number of clutch perrformances in key games and has the intensity of play LeBron’s, Wade’s and Melo’s can only dream of.
He is giving his 100% always ( a little like young Iverson did ).
Combined with all the rings and his skill – I don’t see anyone taking it away from him.
And I don’t even like the guy.
In short – character wise – he is the only superstar of this era that wants is as bad as MJ did and shows it on the court. Period. Bam. For me, that’s enough.
Period. T
Feed the cutter!!!
by Piotr Szczesniak on Mar 23, 2011 10:17 AM MST up reply actions
Well
I disagree again. Steve Nash was never the reason the Suns never got a ring and he revolutionized the game. Why couldn’t I say Nash was the best in his era? He won two MVP’s and changed the game. No one will remember how many times the Jason Kidd Nets lost in the finals but they will remember the Nash led Suns.
How is Kobe close to Michael Jordan? Why don’t you pull up some stats and show me what your talking about. So far its all opinion based.
How in the hell do you think Barkley was the best of the 90's?
Was that a mistake? Jordan still played in the 90’s didn’t he?
I don't think Barkley was the greatest in the 90's. Maybe at his position.
Barkley didn’t take a bunch of losers and make them winners though like Nash did. Barkley came onto which was already a successfull team. Thats why Nash will stick out and his not smell like ass. Its an honest body of work throughout his career.
good game guys
its a shame a team like yours cant get into the playoffs while the Hawks in the east get blown out every other game and get the 5th seed.
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by shaqfor3 on Mar 23, 2011 10:02 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
What do people say about Carter?
Half man, half amazing. It is more like Half Man, Half Ass
by sunsbballfreak on Mar 23, 2011 10:05 AM MST reply actions
The half Vince - Half Mr. ORNG combo
Would probably cause me to just quit on life.
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RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Mar 23, 2011 10:57 AM MST up reply actions
FWIW
I find Mr. ORNG less tolerable than VC.
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by Scott Howard on Mar 23, 2011 11:01 AM MST up reply actions
Damn
That says a lot about MR ORNG. Can’t you invite him here on BSOTS?
I know that, deep inside, the kid in you wants him here. Be openminded. Be nice. Be a kid again. Invite him.
I think the kid in me would have hated him too
I was kind of a dick kid
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RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Mar 23, 2011 11:11 AM MST up reply actions
I bet you hate clowns
I guess that explains your dislike for VC.
by Raptorel on Mar 23, 2011 11:12 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
He looks rather young.
I’m assuming he’s a spoiled rich brat that gets to go to all of the games and even road games on his parents’ dollar because he tells them that he’s some kind of freedom fighter or something and needs funding for his covert operations.
I smell like the vault. I'm so PAID.
To be fair...
Nevermind I agree. VC is like the flu, you know it will eventually go away. MR ORNG? not so much.
He’s like 23, hardly a kid. He should be chasing tail, not bothering with that nonsense. At least dudes that paint themselves for football only do it once a week and have alcohol as an excuse.
by oLLiE Boombayay on Mar 23, 2011 12:58 PM MST up reply actions
I can't believe I missed it...
ouchie. now I need my vicodin…
Though your flirtation technique is hilarious, it's distracting.
Yeah well, I watched it and I need Vicodin.
Are you OK? What happened?
"Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!"
~Admiral David Farragut
by East Bay Ray on Mar 23, 2011 10:28 AM MST up reply actions
Drunk asshat slammed into me. I got a radial fracture. Need to go to an ortho later today and get a cast.
Other than the busted arm, I’m physically fine. Car is probably totaled.
Though your flirtation technique is hilarious, it's distracting.
Sorry to hear, but glad you weren't hurt worse.
The drunk asshat was obviously a Lakers fan. Typical!
"Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!"
~Admiral David Farragut
by East Bay Ray on Mar 23, 2011 10:41 AM MST up reply actions
I slept on it, I've stewed over it this morning.
And I just can’t put a happy face on this game. Sure I appreciate the hell out of the effort and the fight they showed against a great opponent on the road, but it’s gonna hurt not making the playoffs and that loss was a huge dagger in our chances. The time for moral victories passed awhile ago.
We’ll see what we show tonight, but a loss like that seems like one that crushes us. I have to think they’re physically and emotionally exhausted. So much so that they lose to the terrible Raptors? I hope not, but wouldn’t be surprised. I have the white flag washed and pressed and ready to run up the flagpole.
"Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!"
~Admiral David Farragut
Yea the time for moral victories passed when....
-We blew a late lead against San Antonio
-Rudy Gay drilled a contested corner three pointer to send us to overtime
-J-Rich missed a FT against Chicago that would have extended our lead to 3 instead of 2 in OT
- We couldn’t finish a 4th quarter against Portland….3 times
- We lost to the Clippers
- We lost to the Kings on Sacto by blowing a huge lead….and then lost again at home a few weeks later
-We blew an enormous lead against Detroit in Detroit
-We couldn’t finish at home against OKC (or on the road in overtime)
-Dudz couldn’t hit a wide open three to beat Houston.
You know, those games.
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RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Mar 23, 2011 10:44 AM MST up reply actions
Yup.
If they had taken care of the business they should have, then a gritty loss to a superior opponent is easier to take. When they’ve already pissed away all their room for error, not so much.
"Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!"
~Admiral David Farragut
by East Bay Ray on Mar 23, 2011 10:46 AM MST up reply actions
Then again, I'm kind of glad I missed it.
I probably would have been livid and broken things
Though your flirtation technique is hilarious, it's distracting.
Glad you missed possibly Nash's last "classic" game as a Sun?
Or probably the best regular season game this year?
Achievement is its own reward, pride obscures it.
by hcblankscreen on Mar 23, 2011 10:45 AM MST up reply actions
Grant Hill
That it I think, other then rookies
by oLLiE Boombayay on Mar 23, 2011 1:01 PM MST up reply actions
I hear you
I was at a home game a few years back when the Suns and Wizards had an epic battle. Gilbert Arenas dropped like 50 points and Nash was insanely good as well. Suns lost, but still one of the best games I’ve ever seen live.
Sometimes, you have to take off the homer hat and just appreciate a great game.
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by Seth Pollack on Mar 23, 2011 11:41 AM MST up reply actions
This is the game Mr. Pollack is talking about.
http://espn.go.com/nba/recap/_/id/261222021/washington-wizards-vs-phoenix-suns
Absolutely insane. Suns had come in on a 15 game winning streak
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RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Mar 23, 2011 11:45 AM MST up reply actions
BTW....2 games later the Suns went on a 17 game winning streak
Remember being good?
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RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Mar 23, 2011 11:48 AM MST up reply actions
33-2 over 35 game stretch.
That’s comical.
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RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Mar 23, 2011 11:50 AM MST up reply actions
that 06/07 team defined BAMF
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
the funny thing is that dallas was a better regular season team than us somehow
they had three 10 game winstreaks before the all star break…ridiculous
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
And we beat them in a double 0T thriller and than Crushed them while making history by shooting about 70% against them.
When Amar’e returned to form that 07 team became really good. Had Boris Diaw managed to play as well as was capable of the Suns would have beaten the Spurs and won the title.
Don't trade Dudley!
There was Donaghy and Horry too
you can’t blame the entire loss of the series on Boris
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Hell, Amare played terribly down the stretch in Game 6
It was sad times. Sad, sad times.
I remember it was either Nash or Raja who was just sitting on the floor at the end when the buzzer sounded, and they were just looking at each other like “:(”. LB was crying.
I also remember D’Antoni looked like he was going to cry in 08. Boris and LB were crying IIRC.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I don't remember that.
I just remember Nash hugging Duncan, congratulating him for the win.
I don’t remember Amar’e playing terrible down the stretch. I just remember we were down by 20 in the 3rd and the Suns made an amazing comeback that got it within 5. Amar’e had 36 that game I believe.
I also remember that beautiful wrap around behind the back pass between two Spurs players to Amar’e for a dunk over Oberto from Nash. Best play I’ve ever seen till this day.
Don't trade Dudley!
no, but he was inconsistent by choice.
I think he was one of those players just in it for the money.
Horry and the refs(yes I believe Donaghy when he said the head ref over the series wanted the Spurs in the WCF’s) played a major par tin the Suns losing. That was our year though. I just wish Boris had cared more because we might have been able to play through that.
Don't trade Dudley!
I don't think Boris didn't care
I just think he didn’t know how to play unless the ball was going through him. 05/06, amazing. 06/07, and 07/08 he’s like “ummmm”. Then 08 playoffs D’Antoni goes through Boris and it’s like Boris was resurrected. Almost recorded back to back triple doubles against Duncan and he shut down Tony Parker.
Dude doesn’t seem passionate about the game, but I don’t think his inconsistency was a choice so much as it was just a matter of circumstance and his reduced role.
Sigh…I think that could have been our year.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Yes, it sure felt like it.
7 starters, 7SOL and 07 Champions. It’s like it was meant to be our year.
Here was that play. It was over Oberto, it was over Bowen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8S7wLu9UMI
Don't trade Dudley!
Dallas is always a great regular season team.
It’s only the playoffs where they seem to lose some of their edge.
Haters gonna hate. But I still have faith. Believe in this team. It's not as bad as it seems. Go and sit down, son. Cuz these Phoenix Suns ain't done.
R.I.P. Nate Dogg. You provided some of the best hooks in rap ever.
LOVE LOVE LOVE this
quote about Arenas in that recap:
“He wants to win,” Washington coach Eddie Jordan said. “He wants to show he’s going to be one of the greatest of all time.”
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by Seth Pollack on Mar 23, 2011 12:15 PM MST up reply actions
4.5 years later he's a bench guard for the 4th best team in the Eastern Conference.
YIKES.
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RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Mar 23, 2011 12:22 PM MST up reply actions
And yet, he still gets paid by the fistful.
Though your flirtation technique is hilarious, it's distracting.
There was another crazy game Suns vs Nets
Ended up 155-145 if I remember right, with VC fouling out in the overtime. Nash made a clutch three to send the game to OT.
Watched that game live from home
Very tough loss for me. It was the last game before Christmas, so it was tough. It was sad to see the 15 game winning streak end. I remember saying to myself, “The team probably feels the same way, I bet they’ll come out strong their next game and start another 10+ winning.” They did.
Don't trade Dudley!
Why does Gentry place VC?
Carter must have photos of Gentry porking a dog or something? nothing else explains why you keep playing this moronic half-ass idiot imbecile who does not care about shit.
by sunsbballfreak on Mar 23, 2011 11:26 AM MST reply actions
Can you please stop beating around the bush and be more clear?
I’m unsure what your view of Carter is.
"Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!"
~Admiral David Farragut
by East Bay Ray on Mar 23, 2011 11:30 AM MST up reply actions
here is the strategy for 2011-2012
Buy VC out of contract for $4mm, then re-sign him at a vetran’s minimum. Go get Tracy McGrady. Plus, I hear to Starbury is ready to play again.
by sunsbballfreak on Mar 23, 2011 11:28 AM MST reply actions
Wait, no Iverson?
We could trade for Shaq.
No but really, what’s your beef?
I say leave Marbury in China.
He was lousy the first time.
- MarsupialRogue
by MarsupialRogue on Mar 23, 2011 12:33 PM MST up reply actions
Good news, though.
Last season, the Suns lost a regular season game in March to the Lakers… and the postgame thread on BSOTS had 78 comments… and the team was rolling at the time.
This thread has over 300 comments after only 12 hours. Congrats, Bright Side. That’s what business folks refer to as “growth”.
I smell like the vault. I'm so PAID.
by RMason on Mar 23, 2011 11:41 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
yes
this
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by Seth Pollack on Mar 23, 2011 11:42 AM MST up reply actions
I will be
forwarding this comment to my boss btw
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by Seth Pollack on Mar 23, 2011 11:43 AM MST up reply actions
Not to mention our combined gamethread comment count is greater than 2500.
We’re so fucking awesome.
Haters gonna hate. But I still have faith. Believe in this team. It's not as bad as it seems. Go and sit down, son. Cuz these Phoenix Suns ain't done.
R.I.P. Nate Dogg. You provided some of the best hooks in rap ever.
Awesome. When do we get our share of the profit?
"Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!"
~Admiral David Farragut
by East Bay Ray on Mar 23, 2011 12:36 PM MST up reply actions
Ray, we're getting gypped.
Seriously.
Haters gonna hate. But I still have faith. Believe in this team. It's not as bad as it seems. Go and sit down, son. Cuz these Phoenix Suns ain't done.
R.I.P. Nate Dogg. You provided some of the best hooks in rap ever.
So can we agree that Grant Hill is DPOY?
Kobe smelling blood after he fouls out pretty much tells you how much respect Grant Hill commands. Ugh… if he didn’t foul out, we would’ve stood more of a chance. But this team’s best players are 37 and 38. This is just… amazing.
But didn’t Brent Barry go and say we’re one of the few teams that “know how to beat the Lakers” or something like that?
Haters gonna hate. But I still have faith. Believe in this team. It's not as bad as it seems. Go and sit down, son. Cuz these Phoenix Suns ain't done.
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by NashMV3 on Mar 23, 2011 11:59 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
LB better not get booed tonight
I would give him a standing ovation. It would be nice if they played “beep beep” when he scores his 1st basket.
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"Mishy gishy gushy gushy mishy mashy mushy VINCE CARTER!" - Lester Freamon
by Smoooth Criminal on Mar 23, 2011 12:00 PM MST reply actions
Who would boo LB? And for what?
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Mar 23, 2011 12:02 PM MST up reply actions
I'm just saying
I’d cheer for LB when comes in off the bench.
http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/
"Mishy gishy gushy gushy mishy mashy mushy VINCE CARTER!" - Lester Freamon
by Smoooth Criminal on Mar 23, 2011 12:05 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe boo him
for being traded for hedo which subsequently brought us Vince.
http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/
"Mishy gishy gushy gushy mishy mashy mushy VINCE CARTER!" - Lester Freamon
by Smoooth Criminal on Mar 23, 2011 12:08 PM MST up reply actions
breaking up Nash’s marriage? haha jk
by BringBackBarkley17 on Mar 23, 2011 12:09 PM MST up reply actions
Only the jerkoffs who believe the silly rumor would boo him.
"Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!"
~Admiral David Farragut
by East Bay Ray on Mar 23, 2011 12:37 PM MST up reply actions
I expect
he will get treated like Lou did, which was quite fondly
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by Seth Pollack on Mar 23, 2011 12:13 PM MST up reply actions
Unbelievable game!
It’s just really unfortunate that all that grit and effort went for naught at a time when every game is so crucial. I agree with all those who question Gentry’s constant reliance on VC. It makes no sense. Ugh, this hurts – but I must grudgingly tip my hat to the Fuggin Fakers. They played really hard even though the game was nowhere near as important to them. In my view this is strictly because Kobe remembers the history between the teams and respects us in spite of our dismal current record. He will not tolerate anything but maximum effort from his team. [I know. I will burn in hell for these comments in this forum. I cannot tell a lie.]
This game shows what we’re still capable of in spite of significant problems with our roster. Too bad it’s too little too late. It’s hail Mary time – and unfortunately I don’t think she cares about the Suns.
I hate the Lakers more than I hate the Spurs
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
gortat!
man the guy is so solid!!! hes the future at the 5 not lopez. we can now use lopez as a piece in a trade for a 4
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