Thunder Make 29 More Freebies To Storm Past Phoenix Suns in OT, 112-118
by Alex Laugan on Mar 6, 2011 8:30 PM MST
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PrintI have never, in all my years watching NBA basketball since the 80s, seen a younger team get SO MANY FOUL CALLS while shooting layups.
Unbelievable. I mean, they don't even have to fall down on the shot (like Wade) or yell out "And 1!" (like Amare) or flop like there's no tomorrow (like Manu). All they have to do is take the shot and the ref jumps in there like Uncle Diddles to protect the little shooter.
41 free throws for the Thunder (not including the 6 at the end when the Suns were fouling on purpose) vs. 3 "clean" blocks by the Suns.
11 free throws for the Suns (not including 3 on a 3-pointer) vs. 9 "clean" blocks for the Thunder.
Those Thunder, with the middling defense and laregly unaccomplished players, are AMAZING at getting clean blocks on one end and drawing just enough contact to make the shot and draw the foul on the other end. Kudos to the coaching. (oh, and how's the separated shoulder on that non-foul, Channing?)
That's the story of the game.
But of course, that's not the WHOLE story.
The Suns allowed exactly what I said they COULD NOT do, which was to allow more than 1 guy besides Durant and Westbrook to have career games.
James Harden is a really good player, but the Suns allowed him to have basically the game of his career tonight. 26 points, 6 rebounds, 4 blocks, 2 steals. He was all over the court, and just might become the 3rd guy in the NBA's next Big Three. But did it have to start against the Suns?
And then there's Nick Collison. His stat line wasn't incredible (11 points, 9 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 steal), but he made a big difference in this game in the middle. When I think of the second half near the basket, on either end, I think of Collison. He's one of those guy you absolutely hate unless he's on your own team.
And now for the Suns' players of the game:
Channing Frye had 15 rebounds before NOT being fouled by Durant while yanking his own shoulder out of its socket on a shot attempt. Nice defense, Kevin. Here's hoping he heals quickly, though I'm skeptical. Dammit. Again, thanks KD.
Steve Nash survived his "down there" pain long enough to tally 11 points and 14 assists. He was mugged on a turnover toward the end of regulation that the refs deemed solid upstanding gang-tackle defense by the Sooners (OKC ball!), but missed a couple gimmees that could have really helped in crunch time. Not bagging on Nash, but I do wish he was healthy.
And then of course there's Vince Carter. Despite his missed free throws at the end, the Suns ARE NO WHERE near that far in the game without Vince Carter hitting some sick, sick shots when the Suns really needed them. He just needed some big-shot help on the court with him and no one stepped up besides Dudley once.
That's enough for me.
Great game, sad finish. But still a 4-2 trip. Go Suns!
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We got royally screwed by the Ref's
This will hopefully fire up the team. I can see us in the 8th spot in the next five games.
Go Suns!
What upsets me the most is the refs being unfair to Nash basically his whole career. Guy doesn’t deserve that at all.
Twitter: @FredLegittt
by modernage13 on Mar 6, 2011 8:35 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Bill Kenedy…go back and look at all lopsided officiated Suns games and I bet you find that guy…he’s the one person on the planet who hates Steve Nash.
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Billy wasn't even the worst offender tonight
But he was responsible for the Harden phantom call
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RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Mar 6, 2011 8:49 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Found this site…time do to some research
http://www.phillyref.com/basketball/nbarefs/nbarefs.html#
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That's way better than mine.
I’ve had this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Basketball_Association_referees Favorited on my phone/computer all year. I like to yell by name.
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
I have a theory
That when refs call a suns game they are blinded by the suns. Nothing else could explain how we routinely get called for breathing wrong on guys and then get absolutely no calls on the other end. Our suns give off such intense light when they go up for baskets, the refs have sun spots in their eyes keeping them from calling fouls that would get a hockey player tossed from a game.
I pictured Sun-Bear Lopez in a bear suit with his fro sticking out of the bear hood, towering over the headless Duncan snarling a-la wolverine while ol’ crazy eyes Hill just stares at him whispering "damn he’s crazy."
Dies Natalis Solis Invicti
by HelioSuntric on Mar 6, 2011 9:58 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
thats quite a CV point..
graduated cum laude, PHD in astro physics…the only guy on the planet who hates Steve Nash…Rhode scholar..member of presidents council…recipient of Guggenheim genius award.
Wow, he went to Saint Mary's and ASU
maybe he screws us just to prove he has no hometown loyalty
Channing Frye would NEVER catch flying french fries with his left hand!
I wasn't too upset with us losing
cause everyone played hard…until I saw that Memphis beat Dallas. That’s when I lost it.
Man, we’re so close to the 8th seed yet so far. I’m a little afraid with the game against Houston since they’ve been winning games and then we have Denver on Thursday. I hope Channing is fine and props to Carter for doing work.
Twitter: @FredLegittt
by modernage13 on Mar 6, 2011 8:34 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
beat San antonio earlier this week to. those are the top 2 seeded teams
if it was us that won against those 2 teams in one week, we’d be going crazy, so without bias im saying they have a lot to feel good about, and like their chances.
Alex, you and the Suns got Stern'd out of a win.
How far below .500 are you now?
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
Very, very tough loss
But we really can appreciate Suns’ remarkable attitude.
Long road trip, the starters looked exhausted..
Courageous performance, this is really hopeful.
I hope Frye is OK and will come back soon.
And above all… I hope we’ll make these freaking Playoffs. We need to, seriously..
"After the game, my teammates congratulated and joked around with me. Alvin came to me and said, "Kid, you see? Every game you can play like that!" The players were joking around with me, calling me Goran Jordan"
yes, the team played hard for 53 minutes
extremely hard
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the thing I am most impressed with...
is how we regained the momentum with 5 mins left in the game…
Honestly, we made a lot of shots but through 43 mins, I thought they were the slightly better team…But we showed amazing resilience and actually got stops and a bunch of easy buckets, down the stretch.
and really we should/could have beaten them, in their house with terrible officiating at the tail end of a 6 game trip, with some very bad bounces as well, and with our newly annointed go to guy on the bench injured. I would not have expected this, but after this game, I now actually think we may be better than them over a 7 game series.
2000+comments in the
game threads give yourself a clap boys and girls
"Da Suns’ Bench. Call them Victoria’s Secret — all kinds of wonderful support."
The refs pretty much gave the Suns the Clap.
By butt-raping them with so many BS calls.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
On a Sunday.
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
Sunday butt-rape sunday?
"Getting over the 8th seed humpback whale..."
by Larfleeze on Mar 6, 2011 8:42 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Lol, general reaction to this game is ref hatred.
I love it.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
certainly not without soap on a rope
Channing Frye would NEVER catch flying french fries with his left hand!
by Will Slaven on Mar 6, 2011 8:49 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
9-11
Channing Frye would NEVER catch flying french fries with his left hand!
by Will Slaven on Mar 6, 2011 8:50 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
and I'm not a guy who blames refs
but there were so many KEY plays that were horrible calls.
the nocalls in OT on the Suns end, then the phantom call on Harden’s dunk to put them up one…
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Channing's disclocated shoulder
Steve getting pushed in the thigh.
Jared Dudley getting physically abused on one play.
So many, and yet the Suns kept it close.
Was that the Dudley "turnover" where it "went off his leg"?
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
and how about the
turnover on Brooks where Westbrook ripped it away from him on the drive to the hoop, early in the 4th?
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That was a legit "turnover" though =)
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
Of course not!
The refs would’ve called a foul if there was, wouldn’t they?
I am finding it impossible to keep a straight face as I type this.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
alax needs new batteries for his sarcasm meter
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
by 2NASHTY on Mar 7, 2011 12:23 AM MST up reply actions 4 recs
The phantom Harden call impacted every possession for the remainder of the game
I just cannot believe they could call that.
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
Refs have always seemed to be scum towards Arizona teams...
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Phoenix Suns/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I think we can just agree that NBA refs are scum, period.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
by NashMV3 on Mar 6, 2011 9:16 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Any of you want to join
The “I hope the Thunder never win a Championship until the Ref’s stop screwing other teams in favor of them”?
Referee calls need an edit button.
"Getting over the 8th seed humpback whale..."
by Larfleeze on Mar 6, 2011 8:41 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
fuck flags, just look at the big ol' jumbotron. im sure the refs can do that.
"Getting over the 8th seed humpback whale..."
Upside down, I believe.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
by NashMV3 on Mar 6, 2011 8:46 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Lol, ever since the Decision, LeBron has stopped being the poster boy
of the NBA.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
Now he and the Heat are losing and cyring.
Perfect time for them to suck it up too. We need them to beat Memphis.
Don't trade Dudley!
Asking LeBron to stop being a whining crybaby is kinda...
well that’s like asking Steve Nash to stop being awesome. It can’t be done.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
Dude is hurt, and he is balling out double doubles...
with cheese.
"Getting over the 8th seed humpback whale..."
what kind of shots did Vince make?
i couldn’t watch it here, but from the yahoo game thread i knew something was wrong with Frye. How did they manage to make it into OT?
Incredible 25 year old Vince Carter shots.
I was pleasantly surprised.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
lol
i hope this game fires him up.. i also hope if Frye (i hope not) gets injured he would take ownership of being the go-to guy
I hope Frye comes back soon
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
He told Coro he was alright.
So here’s hoping he comes back quickly.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
Unfortunately, that says nothing about his return
He might feel alright, but they might still take him out for a month or two.
My educated guess (as a PT)
would be a minimum of 1-2 weeks, possibly as long as 6-8 weeks, depending on the seriousness of the initial injury.
Damn, right when we needed him the most too..
Faith Focus Finish
its a dislocation, not a separation...
totally different things, and one is serious, the other is not. I know its a different sport, but we would come back into games after putting the joint back in place in hockey games… I know it probably would impact his shooting motion and probably be more painful with that motion, but I don’t see him being out more than a week. If he is, then its more serious than a dislocated shoulder (which was no longer dislocated within 5 minutes of the injury)…
What more than likely happend is a subluxation.
Which is where the joint rolls out of the socket (in the same manner you would expect from a dislocation) but rolls back in. I have had this happen to be basically on the same motion if football. (except to both of my shoulders at the same time). Depending on swelling, never damage, and how fast he is capable of strengething muscles around the joint will depend on how fast he returns. Also there is risk of tearing the cartalidge as with any joint injury. So it’s relaly up to the MRI and the Suns Docs / Training staff to put a date on it.
TO THE NBA - " Yeah, you have created a rift within me ; Now there have been ; several complications ; that have left me feeling nothing ; I might say, you were ; wrong to take it from me ; Left me feeling nothing " - Disturbed, "Numb"
And the initial prognosis is 2-3 weeks.
Meaning it’s close to the best case scenario I suggested for this injury. And yeah, it’s going to be harder to come back from it when it’s an injury to the shooting hand of a professional basketball player than when it happens to a hockey player..
Faith Focus Finish
IF Frye is out longer than we expect it's on Lopez to step up his play
We needed him to play like an all-star to be a contender and near all-star to make the playoffs. He and Dragic both have regressed. It’s like Robin hasn’t learned anything. He still plays with one arm and whatever happened to his “I’m the Enforcer” attitude. I’m not blaming him for the loss. I’m just saying with Frye getting hurt this is his time to step it up. If he doesn’t I’m totally for trading him in the off-season.
Don't trade Dudley!
yeah
I was thinking about this. Lopez and Gortat will HAVE to share the court some, while Frye is out.
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That doesn't excite me much.
Will need more from Warrick, Pietrus and Carter.
"How do you know I wasn't bragging, numbnuts?"
~Steve Nash
That's what she said.
A little levity is called for now.
"How do you know I wasn't bragging, numbnuts?"
~Steve Nash
your sig
when did nash say this?
Hey- Don't Blame ME
On Twitter.
Replying to our own Migonads.
"How do you know I wasn't bragging, numbnuts?"
~Steve Nash
lol I need to see this
Hey- Don't Blame ME
HEY!
for once no one was blaming you
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
by 2NASHTY on Mar 7, 2011 12:26 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
u mean the grain silo?
Hey- Don't Blame ME
yep, all the grain you could eat Mr. Goat
i still blame you for this loss.
"Getting over the 8th seed humpback whale..."
Mr. Goat was my father
you can just call me asshole
Hey- Don't Blame ME
I've been lying this whole time about being a goat
in fact, I am a Zebra
Hey- Don't Blame ME
I have a confession to make too.
I am not Beavis! I’m Butthead and I’ve been using his account for the past few weeks…
Don't trade Dudley!
no man, just showing my true stripes
Hey- Don't Blame ME
I don't care.
We’re sacrificing him all the same.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
Coro on Frye
@paulcoro Paul Coro
Frye has a dislocated rt shoulder. A Monday MRI will set his timeline. He said it felt like hitting a curb but thinks he’ll be OK.
"How do you know I wasn't bragging, numbnuts?"
~Steve Nash
You know....
Even if he’s only out a little bit I’m a bit concerned about him banging around with a bad shoulder. Ugh.
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
The loss and the shitty refs bug me.
But Frye’s injury really hurts.
"How do you know I wasn't bragging, numbnuts?"
~Steve Nash
This!
add in that shitty Memphis huge come from behind against supposedly tough mavs= not so great either…
but despite all of that we are ok, with a healthy Channing. anyone have further news?
True to form for the Mavs.
They’re always really good, until the time comes where they need to be great, at which point they revert to shit.
I smell like the vault. I'm so PAID.
by RMason on Mar 6, 2011 10:33 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I do think Dallas are WAY better than last year,
but who knows that may not be enough to get them anywhere anyways..they have made a lot of nice adds, and just seem more solid and way less likely to truly suck by comparison to last year’s team.
Its just that if the lakers have been kinda farting around and are now starting to actually show up, as we saw today vs. the spurs, they are once again the team to beat and arguably, much better than anyone in the west…
After watching OKC today and the Dallas melt down (in between games) and the way we battled, I do think the Suns may have a shot against anyone but the Lakers, so long as Channing is basically ok.
Jamison
had a dislocated shoulder last season and wasn’t the same the whole year. I’m really hoping Frye’s was very slight.
but his whole shooting motion is F’d now, and all contact will really hurt.
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perfect timing too..
he is really shooting pretty well behind the arc + the clutch.
"Getting over the 8th seed humpback whale..."
That worries me
I think it’s time for Frye to shave his head, get some tattoo’s and play the Rodman role for a while. Just go for the rebounds and let nobody mess with ya.
Don't trade Dudley!
well if that is the case..
than its a whole different story and all bets are off…if you feel this way, how can u be confident about the rest of the season?
Ugh
What a game. Horrible interior D at the start of the game. Bad defense on the 3pt line.. Daequan Cook had open 3 after open 3 (not that he hit that many but thats all he does).
In the end, I’m sort of surprised we were still on it. The refs were not very kind but we still hung in there and led most of the game and forced an OT.
And I don’t want to take tooooo much away from Carter (cause without him we dont make OT) but he is just mentally weak. There’s no way he should be missing 2 FTs like that at the end od the game.. And i still can’t believe Memphis won. Ugh
Re-sign BAMF.
Grant's missed free throws like that before too. Everybody does.
Remember the Warriors game last year? Grant and Nash missed huge free throws, but Amar’e bailed us out by making his and dunking over Tolliver.
Don't trade Dudley!
So has J-Rich (Chicago game)
And Frye (Memphis game) – both overtime losses.
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
I wonder if we had won that Memphis game if the Turk trade still happens?
Because that was like a huge confidence booster for Hedo when he hit that 3 up until Frye missed the free throws.
Don't trade Dudley!
Grant also missed a wide-open 3
that would have put the Suns up 118-113 in OT.
So we can’t blame anything on Vince in this game that we wouldn’t blame on anyone else.
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As I said in the game thread
I really wish we would have called a TO and drew up a play up 2 with a minute to go and the ball. Grant – who at the time was 0/5 and 0/2 from three – was the last guy on the floor I wanted shooting.
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
I never want Grant Hill shooting 3's
Wide open, in practice, on a paper waste basket, etc.
He never shot 3s before he signed with Phoenix because it is out of his range. It’s a really bad habit he picked up from D’antoni, who will let anybody shoot a 3. His form is awful. It looks like a frog in slow motion.
Old man Hill used all his energy on Durant, the leading scorer, and it was an impressive job.
by oLLiE Boombayay on Mar 7, 2011 10:57 AM MST up reply actions
Agreed on his 3s
He’s alright from the corner but it looks like such a painful effort for him. His awkward uncomfortable three point stroke is an outlier in what’s an otherwise smooth game.
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Mar 7, 2011 11:23 AM MST up reply actions
mentally weak is right
i would know, im from Toronto . he never had the balls to come big in big games, especially in the playoffs. u can ask fans of New Jersey, or Orlando as well, he hardly ever came up big.
i loved the dudes talent tho, very talented, not to take away from that.
on that note, it felt liek i was watching the Old VC days in Toronto tonight, it was refreshing to see.
but the free throws made the cold dark reality sink in, that he really hasnt changed all that much i guess, and ya gotta take the good(his talent) with the bad(his lack of mental toughness)
He played well in the playoffs for New Jersey
And for Toronto as well. He scored 50 in game 3 vs Philadelphia.
Anyone who disagrees with the non-call on KD is biased; clearly KD just ripped Frye’s shoulder out of its socket, No big whoop!!
Let Josh Childress play
I thought Westbrook hammered down on it too.
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
pssh... only a wimp would get injured on that kind of mauling, the call was so obvious that the refs became oblivious
Let Josh Childress play
by Bkj on Mar 6, 2011 9:03 PM MST up reply actions
Honestly, you would have to be reallly stupid or really well paid to miss that kind of contact.
A retarded blind monkey could have called a foul on that play, but the refs wanted to be original
Let Josh Childress play
by Bkj on Mar 6, 2011 9:05 PM MST up reply actions
It should have been a foul on Frye.
How dare he get in the way of the new chosen one. In fact, Channing should be fined and suspended. The NBA must protect it’s new “Chosen One” at all costs. In fact, the Thunder should just be allowed to just shoot free throws before the ball is even tipped.
My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.
by OCBlazerFan1 on Mar 8, 2011 10:06 PM MST up reply actions
the only way we have a shot at the playoffs
is with a fully healthy steve nash. the only way we have a fully healthy steve nash is to let him rest for a game or two. AB and z-man need to run the show for a few games. nash’s poor late-game play has GOT to be connected to injury.
Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
~Jack Burton, "Big Trouble in Little China"
So long as we dont see a 33 ft discrepancy I'm good
Let Josh Childress play
by Bkj on Mar 6, 2011 9:06 PM MST up reply actions
I don't believe Steve Nash thinks with his crotch.
If he did, I can understand how it impedes his decision-making.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
by NashMV3 on Mar 6, 2011 9:08 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
read your own username, dude
and take a breath. Suns went 4-2 on the road with “shearing” going on down there. He’ll be fine.
Blogging Suns Basketball at Bright Side of the Sun
by Alex Laugan on Mar 6, 2011 9:07 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
This.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
Those.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
the other
Channing Frye would NEVER catch flying french fries with his left hand!
Yes, but his injury may get worse.
last year when he was hurting at this time we have a 6 day break and that really helped him.
Don't trade Dudley!
we all agree that nash's shot has looked off at the end of games
and that, more generally, he just “doesn’t look right.” i’m just saying that may be the result of playing through pain or playing too much. gentry has ridden him pretty hard this season.
Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
~Jack Burton, "Big Trouble in Little China"
yea, too bad Gentry will play until he shatters into pieces...
Overall: Refs Suck, Losing Sucks, Dallas Suck, and Cleveland Suck.
"Getting over the 8th seed humpback whale..."
by Larfleeze on Mar 6, 2011 9:07 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
CP3 left on a stretcher and the hornets expanded their lead
Let Josh Childress play
by Bkj on Mar 6, 2011 9:08 PM MST up reply actions
Yep you can't count on anyone these days.
Zebo hit that buzzer.
"Getting over the 8th seed humpback whale..."
I wish the jazz accepted our deal :( We should have blackmailed either utah or memphis into giving us their pf's
Let Josh Childress play
by Bkj on Mar 6, 2011 9:11 PM MST up reply actions
Still, the Jazz are looking to trade Milsap and our FO seems to want him
I believe they’ll try again in the off-season.
Don't trade Dudley!
Hopefully they will; I want the jazz to sink into the lottery so that they will become a team desperate to clear cap and that where we swoop
in and snatch milsap, or favors
Let Josh Childress play
by Bkj on Mar 6, 2011 9:13 PM MST up reply actions
i don't see Uncle Lon and his Lackey blackmailing anyone.
"Getting over the 8th seed humpback whale..."
Open your eyes then.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
well whaddya know, it worked.
Vince Carter made himself relevant!!!?! WTF is going on!!?!
"Getting over the 8th seed humpback whale..."
In my mind, I can totally see babby getting on the phone and screwing with peoples minds to get what he wants;
wasnt he a lawyer before? Cussing people out and telling them things that they dont wanna hear. That would be Hilarious
Let Josh Childress play
by Bkj on Mar 6, 2011 9:15 PM MST up reply actions
with the way he talks too, and his voice - noone would see it comin.
"Getting over the 8th seed humpback whale..."
That's pretty much what happened with the Dragic deal.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
i think that is how he got the job too.
he is one smooth sob.
"Getting over the 8th seed humpback whale..."
Yeah, lol, thats the image im getting alright.
It’d be something like this:
Babby: Hey Greg (Utah owner) I see you got a nifty PF on your team, what do you want from him; let me remind you Robin Lopez is related to Brook Lopez and Vince Carter was a lottery pick.
Greg:Nah, I think im okay, we have a fantastic fu…..
Babby: Alright dumbsh’t listen up, you have some one we want and your going to give him to us because once another team offers him money he’ll leave, and if you try and match that kind of money you’ll be a f’’’ing moron because you overpaid for a second round draft pick.
Greg: What if I say no? Huh?
Babby: Ok numbnuts, you are a lottery team with tons of f’’kwad players that are overpaid. You want to clear cap space jack’’’. So just take the offer and be done with it.
Greg: what were you offering again?
Babby: Lopez, carter, Childress, cash, and a couple of draft picks for Milsap. If you dont do this I’ll hunt your f’’’ing st’’’d a’’ down you hear me greg?
Greg: Yeah, deal, just please dont hurt me.
Let Josh Childress play
by Bkj on Mar 6, 2011 9:25 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Yep that'll be how its like!! Dont ask me why I had such sick thoughts in my head, just that it made me feel a little bit better
about tonites game
Let Josh Childress play
by Bkj on Mar 6, 2011 9:27 PM MST up reply actions
i just read that whole thing with Lon's voice in my head.
im tired. awful loss. interesting game. goodnight everyone.
"Getting over the 8th seed humpback whale..."
ever since
Zebo played w Coach Hollins we was a different man
I can see us winning four of the next five games
Houston-A home game, and Aaron Brooks will want to blowout his old team
Denver-We can definitely beat them. I know they’ve been winning games, but they’re definitely beatable
Orlando-This is the only one I think we’ll lose. They’re a good team, but again, if the Suns play like they played tonight, this game will be a Win. Keep in mind that I don’t expect the Ref’s to dole out 41 free FT’s to every team that the Suns play.
@ Houston-Again, we can easily beat them, and Aaron Brooks will love to beat his old team twice.
@ New Orleans-We can definitely beat them. Sure, they just beat Cleveland and Memphis, but they were on a losing streak before that. I think that if the Suns win the games I think they’ll win, the momentum will win them this game.
I virtually always give the refs the benefit of the doubt
Since it’s a hard job and a fast game and contact happens almost every play, some mistakes are inevitable.
But tonight was just effing ridiculous.
How in the hell can a guy get hit so hard that his shoulder is dislocated and have it be a no-call?
If any Suns fans are in OKC, go stake out the sports book at that casino they hyped all night on the fsok broadcast and see if the refs come in with their betting slips.
Chairman, Committee to get Vince Carter an Asbestos Sweatsuit
by suns68 on Mar 6, 2011 9:08 PM MST via mobile reply actions
I rip into the refs when they are being stupid
Let Josh Childress play
by Bkj on Mar 6, 2011 9:09 PM MST up reply actions
That is one very vivid image.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
I hate Referees so freaking much
You guys have already covered all of the bad calls. It was amazing that the Suns were able to stay in the game with how the Refs were trying to help the Thunder late in the game.
Right now, I just hope Frye is okay and that he will be able to play again soon. And even though Carter choked on the Free Throws, he had a great game and he needs to keep playing like that to pick up some of the slack until Frye comes back.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Phoenix Suns/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
Actually he did better than that.
He did an impression of a 25 year old Vince Carter.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
So i'm assuming
We got f*cked by the refs?
Anyway, who hit the three that got us into overtime anyway? Man I wished i saw the game at least…..VC with 29 points? And what’s the status for Frye?
VC made the game tying shot that sent it into ot, then buried another trile to make it 115-114
Let Josh Childress play
by Bkj on Mar 6, 2011 9:17 PM MST up reply actions
I know why the Suns are hated so much; they dont have an owner willing to pay up.
R.C buford, jerry buss, and all those guys are willing to sacrifice money for wins; sarver wants to keep it classy and refuses to buy the suns their way in
Let Josh Childress play
In rough times, we find ways to delude ourselves.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
Just wanted to remind people of a time where Steve Nash didn't suck in late game situations.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q93-af1okbI.
I needed that. Look who he drilled it on.
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Mar 6, 2011 9:19 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
His clutch license expired a last season. (Clippers game winner i believe)
Channing got his but he got totaled.
"Getting over the 8th seed humpback whale..."
by Larfleeze on Mar 6, 2011 9:22 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Ah yes. The layup against the Clippers in the season opener
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
Oh boy....
It just goes to show how old he is.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
notice how there was no pressure on him. Nowadays every team finds a way to sick to defenders on him
Channing Frye would NEVER catch flying french fries with his left hand!
And pressure him sooner in the possesion.
They allways pressure at about halfway between halfcourt and the three point line. Which isnt a problem the Suns typically always have a shooter open. The problem is they become relyant on Nash to do something. They stop moving with out the ball and he has to force up a leaner.
TO THE NBA - " Yeah, you have created a rift within me ; Now there have been ; several complications ; that have left me feeling nothing ; I might say, you were ; wrong to take it from me ; Left me feeling nothing " - Disturbed, "Numb"
All in all
No matter what, the Arizona team is always the underdog. I think the only team that doesn’t get cheated against is the Coyotes. At least we have that.
And the
Ladies…. errr and the Rattlers.
TO THE NBA - " Yeah, you have created a rift within me ; Now there have been ; several complications ; that have left me feeling nothing ; I might say, you were ; wrong to take it from me ; Left me feeling nothing " - Disturbed, "Numb"
Thanks to Seth's ref link. This comment is added without additional commentary
In 61 games the Suns attempt 23.9 free throws per game. Their opponents attempt 24.1 per game.
In the 4 games Billy Kennedy refereed the Suns have attempted 20.5 free throws a game to their opponents 35.5.
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
Wow that speaks volumes.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
Can we start a coalition to light Billy Kennedy on fire?
"How do you know I wasn't bragging, numbnuts?"
~Steve Nash
Oh, heck yeah
Or at least ban him from Phoenix. And Arizona. And all surrounding states. And the country. And Mexico. And Canada. And North America as a whole.
Send him to Britain. They can have him.
funny thing is...
he’s from az
Channing Frye would NEVER catch flying french fries with his left hand!
I hold Bill Kennedy in higher esteem than David Spade
Channing Frye would NEVER catch flying french fries with his left hand!
Best suggestion all night.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
Logo:
Channing Frye would NEVER catch flying french fries with his left hand!
SUNS showed so, so much guts in this one...
never, ever gave up… even playing 5 on 8… down 7, keep on coming… down 3, keep coming… hurting, getting shafted in calls, still played like pros…
by SteveNash, QuantumPhysicist on Mar 6, 2011 9:42 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
totally,
but for the L, this is probably one of our best games of the year. Like I said in other posts, with 5 mins left, we didn’t just die, we actually completely outplayed them, but for the terrible calls, and one very bad bounce where there was a tipped rebound that ended up a 3, we win this game many times. We were without Channing, getting raped by the reps, against supposedly an elite NBA contender on the road at the end of a tough trip, and I say we won the last 5 mins easily.
I feel much more confident about our chances, SO LONG AS CHANNING IS OK, after this game.
Well at least our Suns aren't crying like some people.
cough… LeBron… cough… Bosh… cough… Wade… cough….
I think I’m coming down with bronchitis or something.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
It's the only way they know how to be.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
Sorest losers in the NBA..
Kobe, Wade, Lebron (in no particular order)
Look at how they react to losing a game or series. It’s an awful example for the kids that emulate them.
by oLLiE Boombayay on Mar 7, 2011 11:06 AM MST up reply actions
Dammit, I'm getting hooked on Twitter now.
@SteveNash
Tough one. Going home. Thanks for all your support. We can do this…
"How do you know I wasn't bragging, numbnuts?"
~Steve Nash
There we go, Steve
New Suns motto: We can do this. Someone put this at the top of the page.
But I’d like to see a hate-filled tweet directed towards the Ref’s from Steve. That would be awesome.
I don't think Steve wants to get fined like crazy
just to vent his frustrations through the interwebz.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
Twitter is the best
You know NBA referee Marat Kogut? Well apparently his brother follows me on Twitter and we had an exchange about his refereeing skills this evening. Mind you this is a ref who I said the following about during a November 3rd game against San Antonio:
http://twitter.com/ScottHoward42/statuses/29636464084
http://twitter.com/ScottHoward42/statuses/29637265200
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
I still don't really get it.
I deleted mine.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
Lol. It's fun to follow all this random people.
Some have very humorous comments. Some have completely pointless ones. I not trying to butt kiss here, but Scott howard’s r very clever. I also love all the random Alyssa Milano ones..
by Aztiramtempe on Mar 6, 2011 10:02 PM MST up reply actions
Quote from "Loud City", the SB nation blog for the Thunder
Exact quote from their lead blogger, Dogburt:
“That said, I cannot deny the reffing was horrendous, and slanted in the Thunder’s favor.”
And there you have it.
Definitely props to their lead blogger.
But the stats pretty much spoke for themselves. It’s hard to argue that blindingly obvious discrepancy.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
I'm a dude :-)
And actually a bit of an outsider; I reside in NJ.
I hope ya’ll don’t mind that I pop in on your community here.
www.welcometoloudcity.com
by J.A. Sherman on Mar 7, 2011 10:05 AM MST up reply actions
not at all...
we prefer it… especially when the content adds to the discussion as opposed to the trolls we get here from the other blogs..
Of course not.
Welcome. You’re definitely a classy guy.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
Simply
I love watching great NBA teams and games. And I’ve tracked on the Suns since the day they signed Nash. In fact, one of my least favorite NBA memories involve him – when Nash got his nose wrecked in that game one against the Spurs in 2007, which probably cost the Suns the game and the series, not to mention likely their best shot at ever making the Finals.
www.welcometoloudcity.com
by J.A. Sherman on Mar 7, 2011 10:16 AM MST up reply actions
Suns still could have won that game
I also like to point out that Parker is the one who went down while Nash was losing pints of blood.
by oLLiE Boombayay on Mar 7, 2011 11:08 AM MST up reply actions
Just saying -
the Suns have been in the Finals twice :)
luvukthxgbye
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12
the more the merrier man
just follow the golden rule and everyone is welcome :)
Twitter - @ceek23
"I have to say I've worked very few days of my life. I used to have to cut the lawn, and when I was in junior high school, I worked at a concession stand at a stadium."
-Steve Nash
pee unto others as you'd have them pee unto you...?
maybe, lol
Twitter - @ceek23
"I have to say I've worked very few days of my life. I used to have to cut the lawn, and when I was in junior high school, I worked at a concession stand at a stadium."
-Steve Nash
I'll always admit when the refs are slanted in our favor
You sound like an ass clown if you just bitch when it’s bad against you.
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
Therefore, I am an ass clown.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
But we knew that already.
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Mar 6, 2011 10:01 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, I figured.
But I haven’t posted a major Duh comment yet, so there you have it.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
If you want to complain when the refs fucked us over you sure as hell better admit when the refs help us out.
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Mar 6, 2011 10:02 PM MST up reply actions
Better?
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Mar 6, 2011 10:02 PM MST up reply actions
So maybe I'm not an ass clown after all.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
You're an ass clown only as much as I'm a tool.
Oh wait, that doesn’t help you much. Sorry.
"How do you know I wasn't bragging, numbnuts?"
~Steve Nash
by East Bay Ray on Mar 6, 2011 10:07 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Tell Ray to stop having his dog defecate all over my front porch
and I’ll stop throwing insults at him.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
All in good fun.
"How do you know I wasn't bragging, numbnuts?"
~Steve Nash
by East Bay Ray on Mar 6, 2011 10:23 PM MST up reply actions
I don't mind being an ass clown.
It’s better than being a foolish tool.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
I feel like we do get help in some games in the early part
but then down the stretch we seem to get routinely fucked. The calls they miss routinely the screw us are things like hand checks on nash that force turnovers- you know, less obvious but critical things.
Channing Frye would NEVER catch flying french fries with his left hand!
Grant's last sec. block/goaltend vs Hornets comes to
by 7footer on Mar 6, 2011 10:33 PM MST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Yup. Good one
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Mar 6, 2011 10:34 PM MST up reply actions
the "foul" on vince's three this game
but that’s like re-arainging the deck chairs on the titanic
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
Yeah, no excuse for the officiating tonight.
I don’t like complaining about refs…but come on!
Seriously, this may have been the worst officiated game for us since the playoff series when Tim Donaghy later admitted to costing us those games because he was betting on them.
Earlier Im happy for seeing a blowout by Dallas,
Suns are clearly going to win the game.
I’m confident, happy and boastful.
Minutes later, tables have been turned.
A close game in Dallas, Suns are losing earlier in the 4th.
In a matter of minutes, 2 bad news struct me.
Carter failed to seal the FT’s. and Memphis hit a buzzer beater.
What a way to start my afternoon
Never Fear. Grant Hill is Here.
It's all Grant Hill's fault.
He didn’t score, therefore he should be traded.
Steve Nash missed the 3, so he blows. Trade him.
Vince Carter missed 2 FTs, so he’s gotta go.
Channing Frye got hurt, so he’s useless. Get rid of him.
Disassemble the entire team. It’s all over now.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
I'm just kidding about all this, of course.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
:( bad Sunday!!!
Both my teams loss. It better b a good week!
by Aztiramtempe on Mar 6, 2011 10:04 PM MST up reply actions
Montreal Screw Job
I feel every year there is at least one game where the Suns get royally screwed by the refs. Last season, it was a home game against the Lakers and this year, I look at this game. A lot of phantom calls that seem to be almost whenever the Thunder took the ball to the rim where called . Suns, on the other hand, a lot of ‘hard defense’ which would be called fouls anywhere else weren’t called. Due to that, a huge disparity in free throws between both teams. The fact the Suns were so closed shows a lot of heart. If this doesn’t show that we’re a team to be
PHZ-Sicks
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more I think about it
Our two losses came against Point Guards that are heavy in hand checking. I feel that if Rondo was in the league during MJ’s era, he’d wouldn’t be as anywhere near a good defender as he is today. He learned his hard nose defense from the best (Doc Rivers lived off hand checking).
Westbrook against Nash tonight did a lot of hand checking to keep Nash near which led to turnovers on Nash part. If one of those were called, he’d most likely be out the game.
I’ve noticed that the NBA has kinda backed off hand checking for certain players, but if the NBA doesn’t want bad ref jobs like this, the whistle has to be blown.
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They really seem to let teams get away with hand checking Nash
when they trap on the pick and roll. Portland, San Antonio and now OKC, they all hit Nash hard out on the perimeter from the start of the game and by the end of the game he’s just beat.
Achievement is its own reward, pride obscures it.
by hcblankscreen on Mar 7, 2011 12:35 AM MST up reply actions
I watched Goran with Houston
Looks really bloody comfortable and good!
No more messin' around - time to rise from the ashes!
by Frye (of Victoria, Canada) on Mar 6, 2011 10:39 PM MST reply actions
interesting..
didn’t see a lot of him, but what I did see, he hit a ton of 3’s, which he wasn’t doing here…and which I contend was one of the biggest problems. last year as a 3 point threat it ended up getting him a) a ton of points on 3’s and b) opening up the floor for him particularly but also for the rest of the team.
My one biggest concern about trading Goran was that he was out for so long and when he came back I could kind of see an improvement in his body language and his confidence. I will always wonder whether we traded him like 1 week too early and that if he’d had just a few games to show what he had after the injury, it might have been a different story.
Can’t really complain about AB too much so far, so it might go down as yet another win/win where both guys needed a change of scenery.
Loud City had 4 comments in their game thread.
And they were all by Dogburt, one of their staff writers and the person who posted up the game thread. Compared to the combined 2000+ comments in our game threads, we are fucking awesome.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
Might as well call the gamethreads "Quiet City" amiright????????????
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Mar 6, 2011 10:52 PM MST up reply actions 4 recs
Truly, you guys ARE awesome
I know I’m envious. Hopefully we can figure things out and get some more energy on our site.
As for the game itself, obviously I’m biased in commenting here, but I know that it doesn’t do any team any good for officials to botch games the way they did last night, even if it was to the Thunder’s benefit.
www.welcometoloudcity.com
by J.A. Sherman on Mar 7, 2011 9:01 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Thanks for being a good sport.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
I play some numbers
I generate all scheds of teams numbers 5 to 10
and this is what I’ve got
5.Portland 47-35
6. Phoenix 47-35
7. New Orleans 46-36
8. Denver 46-36
9.Memphis 44-38
10. Utah 43-39
*not sure with 7 and 8. who is the season winner
Never Fear. Grant Hill is Here.
Denver controls their future
they will play a lot of games against teams 5th to 10th.
Memphis has a very tough schedule ahead
There will always be some biasses for the Suns.
Never Fear. Grant Hill is Here.
by sun_equalizer on Mar 6, 2011 10:56 PM MST up reply actions
my bad. not denver but new orleans will
Never Fear. Grant Hill is Here.
by sun_equalizer on Mar 6, 2011 11:12 PM MST up reply actions
not nearly enough wins for Memphis...sorry...
they are very for real.
and I can see the suns getting 47 W’s but only of Frye is ok…its seems hard to prognosticate too far without more info on that.
next 5 of Memphis
vs
Oklahoma City
vs
NY Knicks
@
Miami
vs
Los Angeles
@
NY Knicks
they will also face Boston-Chicago and San antonio
Never Fear. Grant Hill is Here.
by sun_equalizer on Mar 6, 2011 11:01 PM MST up reply actions
I got it..
but they just beat the spurs and Dallas…
so at home to the Knicks looks like a W plus maybe at home to OKC. Hopefully by the time they get to Miami, Miami will be seething and looking to extract a vengence on them. (same for playing the Knicjs @ MSG).
but thanks for the sched!!
I slept really bad last night
And dreamed VC had 5 points against the OKC Thunder. I really did. I was like “oh man he’s so slow”. And woke up at 5 AM and I was like “hm… let me get back to sleep, I don’t want to wake up in the middle of the game” (I wanted to sleep and watch the game from the NBA LP archive).
But man, those missed free throws really did have a Nick Anderson effect on VC. I’m talking about those that he missed against Boston in the ECF. That game-tying three point shot at the end of the regular time was the FIRST (yup, the first) shot I’ve ever since Vince shot, since the New Jersey trade to Orlando, that looked very close to 100% his shooting mechanics. All the other are far away from his normal shooting stroke.
He acted purely on instinct there, no time to fail mentally. Instead, at the free throw line, you could see he was worried… man I hated that.
But this game was lost in a series of turnover, bad referee calls and some missed easy shots.
The 3 former Magic-players combined for 69 points last night
Not such a bad trade after all? Or will VC slump back to his usual single digit performance? Questions, questions, questions….
Alea iacta est!
I'm blaming Lopez too
If he would have actually made a couple of layups that he missed we might not have gone into overtime.
By the way, you messed up Vince's name in the thread picture
He’s not a “Cater”, he could be, but he’s not yet in the catering industry.
well, if it didnt make things worse...Memphis beat Dallas last night too.
I mean, they beat the Spurs and Dallas all in one week of ball…
they seem poised to take that playoff spot , and they’re doing it without Rudy Gay.
We’re almost 2 games back now
My favorite moment of the night...
Was when the team was honoring the kids for their Black History Month essays.
So Fox Sports Okla’s big-hair-blonde sideline reporter is gushing about how great the essays were and says:
“One kid wrote about peanut butter. I don’t know what that was about.”
… Thereby proving she has never heard of George Washington Carver.
Talk about “Are you smarter than a fifth grader?”
I guess “Are you smarter than a Fox reporter?” would be the easiest game show ever.
Chairman, Committee to get Vince Carter an Asbestos Sweatsuit
by suns68 on Mar 7, 2011 7:29 AM MST via mobile reply actions
Fox and all Fox related things make me lol
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
This is the part...
…where I do that thing where I remind everyone to thank the refs the next time the Suns are the beneficiaries of some bad officiating which no one ever remembers when it happens because every fan base in the history of the NBA has been screwed over by the refs but has never benefitted from one bad call ever because the refs obviously hate [insert star player/franchise here] forever and ever amen.
After all, remember that time the Suns beat the Wizards a couple of months ago and shot 20 more free throws than the Wiz, but ZOMG, that must have been the most perfectly officiated game ever cuz no one sent sympathy cards to the DC area for getting “raped by refs” or offered to give that win back or play a rematch in Steve Nash’s backyard because that would be he classy thing to do?
Is it just that much easier than pointing out Steve Nash’s rapidly decreasing ability to perform in the clutch? Point out the gaping black hole on offense that was Grant Hill? Note that both Lopez and Gortat missed a handful of shots at the cup? Perhaps ask Alvin Gentry why, when the Suns were getting to the rim unguarded on the pick and roll he maybe didn’t give Hakim Warrick another minute or two since he was basically born to do one and only one thing and that’s roll to the basket and dunk?
Bad calls happen and can’t be helped. Bad execution can.
Love you guys, but… Suck. It. Up.
Twitter: @MikeLisboa
thanks Mike
but shut up. ;)
Blogging Suns Basketball at Bright Side of the Sun
by Alex Laugan on Mar 7, 2011 8:48 AM MST up reply actions 4 recs
Thank you Alex.
My sentiments, exactly.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
Sorry, next time I'll just say
BSOSTS, stop freakin’ hating on the Refs. It’s freakin’ stupid and it needs to freakin’ stop.
I’ll skip that whole “logical defense of my argument/attack on yours” portion of the proceedings. :)
Twitter: @MikeLisboa
by Mike Lisboa on Mar 7, 2011 9:44 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Too many S's there Mike.
I think a simple “You’re all idiots.” would suffice.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
Seriously...
Is Mike dating a Ref or something?
TO THE NBA - " Yeah, you have created a rift within me ; Now there have been ; several complications ; that have left me feeling nothing ; I might say, you were ; wrong to take it from me ; Left me feeling nothing " - Disturbed, "Numb"
Wrong.
It was ghosts.
Founder of the Coalition to Light Vince Carter On Fire (CTLVCOF)
RIP Seasons of Discontent
rabid fandom calls for blind love and devotion
…..not logic
I just want them to win a title before I die!
by sunsfansince1980 on Mar 7, 2011 9:31 AM MST up reply actions
Yea, but nobody cares about the Wizards; it's not like they have a shot at the playoffs anyway:)
We have much more in stake than they did. I see your point though. The refs helped us out that game, but I’d much rather them not screw us when were trying to make a run for the playoffs.
Don't trade Dudley!
So....
that win 2 months ago doesn’t apply to our record now? That win doesn’t apply to the total number of wins that would help us get into the playoffs.
The run to the playoff is 82 games long. Win early and you don’t have to win late.
Twitter: @MikeLisboa
The Skirvin Hotel strikes again
It’s no mystery why the Thunder shot so many FTs and Frye’s shoulder got bludgeoned. Nash tweeted the team stayed at the haunted Skirvin Hotel.
See for yourself.
http://www.ghosteyes.com/paranormal-news-espns-bill-simmons-skirvin-hotel-experience
man...
what a tough game to swallow! The refs were awful but we still should have won that game…in the end we just didn’t play well enough to get it done, no sense blaming the refs cause it doesn’t change anything.
shit
Twitter - @ceek23
"I have to say I've worked very few days of my life. I used to have to cut the lawn, and when I was in junior high school, I worked at a concession stand at a stadium."
-Steve Nash
Tough game..but why did Steve Nash shoot the 3 with 7 secs to go??!??
I really thought we had a chance. Must’ve been Gentry’s play call. We got a really tough schedule coming up too..but at least wer back home.
I officially hate Memphis for winning on a lucky shot.
I fear for our play off run with Channing Frye's injury
I just want them to win a title before I die!
by sunsfansince1980 on Mar 7, 2011 9:26 AM MST reply actions
From The Loud City Blog
The Officiating
I’d be remiss if I did not address the officiating in the game. In a word, it was bad. There were numerous missed calls, the offensive charge/defensive block calls seemed extremely arbitrary, and of course there was the massive free throw disparity (Thunder 47, Suns 14).
The worst though were two calls that quite possibly tipped the scales in the Thunder’s favor:
1. The no-call on Steve Nash. With 14 seconds remaining in the game and the Suns with the ball trailing by a point, Westbrook quite clearly pushed Nash in the back, which caused Nash to lose the ball. The lead increased to three points, and in the end the best the Suns could do was tie (which they did).
2. The phantom foul on Steve Nash. With only 34 seconds remaining in the OT and the Suns up two, James Harden dunked the ball on a fast break play. Nash had stuck out his arm, but clearly pulled it back before there was any sort of contact with Harden. In fact, nobody hit Harden at all as he dunked the ball. The refs however seemed like they were anticipating the foul and called it anyway, despite the lack of contact. Harden hit the free throw, the Thunder took the lead, and the Suns never caught them after that moment.
I’m happy the Thunder won, and they still had to make the plays necessary to hold on, but these calls were so bad, and came at such critical points, that it is hard not to sympathize with the Suns faithful for using the word “referee” as a curse word this morning. The league needs to do better than this.
Much Respect ^ At least they know they got the benefit of the doubt and won.
thanks classy post
I just want them to win a title before I die!
by sunsfansince1980 on Mar 7, 2011 9:44 AM MST up reply actions
Definitely written by a classy guy.
Is that Dogburt’s work? Cuz I’m starting to like that guy.
Eric's list of freakin' demands:
1. Jordana Brewster, freakin' marry me.
2. Steve Nash, sign my freakin' jersey and win a freakin' championship already.
3. All powerful being that may/may not have been responsible for the creation of our universe, please just freakin' remove the atrocities known as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers from the NBA. I'm freakin' serious.
4. BSotS, stop freakin' hating on Vince Carter. It's freakin' stupid and it needs to freakin' stop.
Not classy - the only Thunder fan who commented on that post
“really?
refs have good days and bad days like everybody else, its part of the game you got to play threw it and i think suns got the best call of the whole game with that 3-pointer carter supposely got fouled on. we got more foul calls because are guards drove the ball and all the suns did was shoot so I dont sympathize at all with them THUNDER fought hard and deserved it”
I didn’t see the game but based on the comments, the Suns were nearly as aggressive without the benefits of the calls. Regardless, it still shouldn’t matter if one team is being more “aggressive” by going to basket more, while the other team is shooting more jump shots – a foul is a foul and it should be called as such.
That being said, it happens to all teams. The Suns just need to regroup and go out and beat the Rockets. Here’s hoping that Frye is okay.
by Nate_Sun86 on Mar 7, 2011 10:41 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
How can you not call a foul when someone dislocated an arm....
At least the OKC fans aknowledge the home cookin..
If Frye didnt go out we could be talking about three game winners..
Did you guys finally LVCOF?
I'm good with VC@ the moment
tough free throws to miss but we wouldn’t have been in the game in the first place if it wasn’t for him.
Twitter - @ceek23
"I have to say I've worked very few days of my life. I used to have to cut the lawn, and when I was in junior high school, I worked at a concession stand at a stadium."
-Steve Nash
I think free throw shooting is the only thing you just gotta take
There’s nothing you can do about it than shoot and live with it. It’s not a matter of lack of effort, careless, lazyness etc. He just didn’t made the shots.
I’m 100% sure those missed free throws vs. the Celtics that he missed just “blew his mind”. That’s why he’s a 75% free throw shooter this season as well, vs 84% last season and 80% per career.
vince is an enigma to me
I was going through this season thinking that he’s def a baller but crumbles when the pressure’s on, then he makes that three last night to send it to OT and blows my whole pre-conceived notion of him into the water…only to choke at the FT line…can’t figure this dude out.
Twitter - @ceek23
"I have to say I've worked very few days of my life. I used to have to cut the lawn, and when I was in junior high school, I worked at a concession stand at a stadium."
-Steve Nash
That's because it's a game of centimeters (or fraction of inches for you American guys)
Think about it: you shoot a spherical object towards a target that’s at a distance. Even an extremely small deviation equals a miss. There as much luck into any shot (good or bad luck) as you can have, so if you get lucky, you make the shot. If you don’t get lucky, you don’t make the shot.
It’s also a matter of ability, especially when you don’t have the time to think about it and shoot it instinctively, so natural talent plays a big role (besides luck) – that’s why he’s bad with free throws – weak mind, has time to collapse into the moment, and fails.
I guess
as a fan I crave consistency, good or bad…just not something he’s into it would seem :/
Twitter - @ceek23
"I have to say I've worked very few days of my life. I used to have to cut the lawn, and when I was in junior high school, I worked at a concession stand at a stadium."
-Steve Nash
74% FT shooter
gotta hit 2/3. No excuses. It was a gift of a makeup call and VC blew it. I’m not dwelling on it because the way that the refs called that game they would have just given the Thunder another phantom call.
by oLLiE Boombayay on Mar 7, 2011 11:13 AM MST up reply actions
The worst part about the non-call on KD vs. Frye
was that the ref was right there just a few feet away.
by oLLiE Boombayay on Mar 7, 2011 11:18 AM MST up reply actions
My two cents
Definitely a frustrating game to watch and officiating did seem to affect it.
BUT – what pisses me off most about the game is that nobody was enforcing the paint.
What happened to “The Wall” that Gortat and Lopez were supposed to be? What happened to dealing with “two big guys” down in the paint?
Russel Westbrook (I love the guy, he looks like a frog and frustrates the crap out of me when he’s abusing Nash… but i would love to have him as our PG) was just man-handling Nash all game long.. and not once did somebody reach in and just knock him to the floor one time. That’s what I was looking for – didn’t need to be dirty, but seriously put a hit on him to make him think twice about uncontrollably driving the lane like he does.
The only times I saw Westbrook hit the floor hard was when he was the one initiating the contact and running into guys trying to set screens or take charges. Hit the kid, rough him up – take pride in not allowing the opposing team to drive the lane like it was the San Tan. I thought we learned all this from Tony Parker – just knock the dude down and he’ll pass it off more.
That’s what i was most disappointed in – our inability to push back. Our guys got beat up by a younger and stronger team.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12
Well I did see some push back, starting in the last 5 mins in the game, and carrying on through the..
OT. They definitely weren’t able to score at will as they had…maybe we weren’t beating them up, but we were defending better, definitely.
But you are right to say age is an issue. We can’t beat these young and athletic teams with Nash and Hill playing 35 mins +. In these games, against say OKC, Memph, Philly…maybe there are others, (Denver?) we simply must use the bench more to “equalize” the athleticism, imo. And maybe that is a general issue, as Nash and Hill are definitely showing signs that more rest for them would be beneficial
more on age -
watching the Suns you can tell the switch in pace when the bench comes in as opposed to when Nash is floor general – yes he used to be the king of 7SOL and the best a pushing the floor… but I’m not sure that’s the case – he walks the ball up more than he used to. Just saying
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12
agreed..
but some of that is because, there is an overuse problem.. We bungled too many games early in the year, when we had the various problems created by the FO (some of that actually is parity as well finally rearing its head). And so we needed a lot of Nash and Hill just to stay competative.
So we created a situation where we don’t have much room for error and it seems to me, we’re playing with Nash and Hill a bit burnt out (and now we need to worry about Frye), and as a result pace is being sacrificed.
Its too bad, because we now look like we can be a really good team if we weren’t facing a ton of must win games with no rest, and some guys overworked and now dealing with the concern about Channing. And I think to maximize how we play these last 5 ish weeks, AG is going to have to rely on the bench a bit more than he seems to be comfortable with.
Agreed on Westbrook
Rose and Wade get fouled hard all the time and they play the same style. You just can’t let a PG do that. It’s something you have to take personal if you are a big man. It’s worth the risk of a flagrant.
I was disappointed to see RoLo get benched after the two fouls. Gortat and Frye had great games, but RoLo was playing well too. Even after Frye went down gentry went to Dudley and Pietrus. Their 3s were crucial, Pietrus has been on fire of late, but the Suns needed a presence in the middle.
by oLLiE Boombayay on Mar 7, 2011 12:05 PM MST up reply actions
Lopez was failing HARD offensively...
He was getting hammered and his shot blocked what seemed like everytime.. not saying I agree with benching him so much, but I will say I was yelling in frustration and shooting finger guns at his lack of finishing ability last night.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12
by Eutychus on Mar 7, 2011 2:01 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
He isnt as effective....
If he fouls out of the game for putting his shoulder into every player that steps in front of him….
TO THE NBA - " Yeah, you have created a rift within me ; Now there have been ; several complications ; that have left me feeling nothing ; I might say, you were ; wrong to take it from me ; Left me feeling nothing " - Disturbed, "Numb"
really? I remember at one time he was self-title "the enforcer"
What happened to that? The dude is allowed 6 fouls a game – In the last 25 games the highest number of fouls he’s committed is 4 and he did in on only 4 occasions.
Last I checked he’s only averaging something like 16 mpg and he’s not playing late in games…
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12
Also... I dont think we got beat up...
that freethrow disparity was pretty tough to overcome… I think they showed some serious fight and class… Fight for not losing by 40… Class for not promptly shoving the ball up Kennedys ass in the parking lot after the game.
TO THE NBA - " Yeah, you have created a rift within me ; Now there have been ; several complications ; that have left me feeling nothing ; I might say, you were ; wrong to take it from me ; Left me feeling nothing " - Disturbed, "Numb"
We didn't get beat up?
Frye dislocates his shoulder – Nash is continually bludgeoned to the ground, Hill reopens his stitches… Hill later was seen on camera spitting blood into a cut and having Aaron Nelson swab and clean a cut in his mouth – Robin Lopez was continually hammered blocked and even flagrantly fouled at one point… Gortat was getting knocked to the ground blocked all game, Westbrook and Harden were repeatedly barreling into stationary defenders and either getting charges or blocks called, Westbrook was physically molested/stripped on a few plays and we didn’t get beat up?
You must watch a lot of WWE.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12
*Into a cup - not cut
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12
I thought they fought hard.
When it comes to fouling guys hard as they get to the paint we just don’t have anyone on our team with that personality. Raja had it, Shaq had it and Pietrus has got it and even showed it last night. His game was pretty physical. He picked up 3 quick fouls and Gentry likely told him to calm down.
Don't trade Dudley!
I agree they fought hard
just not hard enough obviously.
Sometimes you have to be ruthless.
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Suggestion to the NBA..
Since it is clear the league doesn’t give a crap about decent officiating (witness the SUNS game, take downs of Nash, ‘no touch fouls’, Frye etc), and the transformation of the NBA into a cross between WWE and hockey is now complete, why not have the Ref’s dress up in costumes, and have ‘Game names’ like ‘Killer K’, ‘Blindeyes Bill’, “Animal” or ‘BarnDoorBarnaki’?
Fans could hoot and holler at the ref’s and would be better able to recognize the chump ref’s, and also would know which team say ‘Animal’ usually hates or call fouls for, or whether a particular ref just makes crappy calls on anyone at anytime.
The few remaining referees who still try to officiate fairly could still wear the striped shirts, and could get into fake WWE type arguments and fights with the bad boy refs.
It might boost ticket sales and revenue, which is all the NBA seems to care about, hows about it?
by Catamaran1 on Mar 8, 2011 12:37 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
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