Phoenix Suns Player Evaluations 2010-11: Hakim Not Quite A Dream, But Still A Valuable Player

There are two essencial things keeping Hak from being what we need here in phoenix:
-He doesnt really play below the rim instead he likes shooting mid range J or just pick and roll, in order to be efficient he must get the ball under the rim and either get a foul or a 2 point, thats they way it works that should happen at least 70 percent of the time.
-He CANT D, but thats no such a big deal, his ceiling is limitied by his body, he is thin and undersized, what can he do agaisnt guys like Lamarcus Ald? i dont really know but he is going to have to figure out this summer.

Can we convince Howard to come to Phoenix or get Richardson back? About Warrick, we need size out in the west and his legs are thinner than mine. His contract is not bad i can only see him as a back up forward in a Suns uniform. There were a few games that i did like the way he threw is slim frame around and got to the line. That’s the Warrick i’d like to see more of.

All of those players that you mentioned are playing better than Warrick (minus Kleiza). Dude totally flopped in my opinion.

I can see how Warrick is a nice backup PF player at 15 minutes a game. His inconsistency in effort is what hurts him.

Are we still in the running for josh smith or not?

were from Warrick this season. I don’t think he held the Suns back. He’s paid backup money and plays as such. I’d take him over most backup PFs. he should get more blocks/rebounds with those hops. His salary doesn’t hold the team back so only trade him if there is a chance at a major upgrade. A package of Warrick/Pietrus could potentially bring the Suns an upper tier player.

Both of them are essentially small forwards that can’t shoot threes.

Warrick is stuck as a tweener 3-4 and doesn’t really fit into a well defined role on the team. Being south of 220 lbs makes him ineffective as a true 4 and his lack of longe range shooting makes him ineffective as a 3.

In essence, Childress poses the same dilemma. He definitely can’t play the 4 and he isn’t a legitimate threat from long distance at the 3.

The Suns have two of the same (albeit very different) players coming off the bench and neither really fits the Steve Nash style of play. This is problematic. I don’t think the Suns can afford to have 2 small forwards that don’t shoot threes coming off the bench.

I think that one of these players needs to go. Warrick seems like he would be easier to package in a trade. His contract is very reasonable. If Warrick wasn’t possessed of his deficiencies relating to size, shooting, and defense (wow, that makes him sound like a real prize) he would fetch more than what Phoenix is giving him. I would rather see Childress go, though, if the Suns could find some trusting rube to hoodwink into taking his burdensome contract.

And…… In a way Warrick is like a travesty (grotesque imitation or debased likeness) of Amare. If Amare’s size, strength, aggresiveness, and mid range game were all taken from him….. he would be Warrick.

Kind of like in Twins. The embryo did split in two, but… it didn’t split equally. All the purity and strength went into Amare. All the crap that was left over…

Well, you know.

During the last 15-20 games he started hitting that 14-17 foot jumper that makes him more effective.I dont think we can look down on hak too hard given the production he gives in just around 17 min a game.

Warrick is horrible and I can’t believe you’re higher on Warrick than Chill. He doesn’t deserve to start on any roster in the league.

I did a quick compare of Lou from 09-10 vs. Warrick this year. Full data can be seen here.
Some key stats:

• Warrick shot more and scored more, but at a lower%, though Warrick’s .511 FG% is nothing to be ashamed of.
• Warrick went to the line twice as often as Amundson, and shot better when he got there.
• Amundson rebounded better, by both simple and advanced measures.
• Amundson’s defense was better, as much as that can be accurately quantified.
• The sum of all this, win shares per 48 minutes, as calculated by Basketball Reference, has Amundson at .118 and Warrick at .116. Can’t get much closer than that.

None of that is earth-shattering. We essentially traded some defense and rebounding for additional offense. Unfortunately, our second unit this year was short on both offense and defense. I don’t think keeping Louuuu and not signing Warrick would have made a hill of beans of difference in the Suns this season.

Warrick is one of those guys. It just fits better with our personnel. He can’t match up against most starting 4s in the league because of his lack of size and lower body strength. However, he had the quickness to beat his man which led him being an asset off the bench. One thing I thought he improved on was his confidence on his mid-range jumper. At first I was like “Whoa, what the hell are you doing?” But then he started draining them somewhat consistently toward the end of the season. He knows that he can’t bang all night against those bigs so he helped spread the floor much like when STAT increased his range to the outside. As long as he has the hands of Amare and not Robin, the PnR could still be a threat with Nash resting. His jumper is improving, and could turn into a pick and pop situation. Still think he’s underdeveloped, and there’s definitely room to grow. Flashes of Amare came to mind when he had those thunderous slams over helpless defenders. There’s still upside with Hakeem, but like with most players on the team there needs to be a defined role so that he sees the floor consistently.