What the Suns should do with #13 pick

by hawk7 on Jun 13, 2011 9:19 PM MST

The Phoenix Suns historically have been a terrible drafting team. Out of all their first round picks only 12 out of 40 of them have had successful NBA careers. Out of the 12 only 7 of them made a name for themselves in a Phoenix Sun uniform, and one of them in his second stint here (Steve Nash). The Phoenix Suns are only a few key pieces away to returning to championship form. The two key pieces they need are a PF and a SG. I believe the Suns should sign Jason Richardson for SG because face it he hated Orlando and loved it here. Now the question of PF has been tossed around between the draft and free agency. With both the draft and free agency lacking true ready now players the Suns should turn to the world of trading. Under Kerr the Suns made some great trades and some extremely questionable trades, but under Blanks it is time for him to show us more of what he knows. Blanks already pulled off the trade that sent us the Polish Hammer Marcin Gortat. Now it is time for him to make another move. The number 13 spot may be able to go with a few players to a rebuilding team for a true PF.

Trade 13th pick, Gani Lawal, Josh Childress, and Mickael Pietrus for LaMarcus Aldridge and Armon Johnson
Trade 13th pick, Robin Lopez, and Aaron Brooks for David West
Trade 13th pick, Robin Lopez, Hakim Warick, and Josh Childress for Carlos Boozer
Draft either Jimmer (PLEASE NO!!!), Donatas Motiejunas, or Tirstan Thompson (if he somehow fall to us)

We can only hope for the best.

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Ewww boozer </3

An undersized PF who did not deliver in Chicago even though he had two nice centers behind him, no thanks.

If i were to draft i,ll get Biyombo or Valanciunas.

And that Lamarcus Aldridge trade sounds pretty good but that aint happening never ever in this life.

Do not let Steve Nash and Grant Hill go away, please.
Otherwhise im not buying any tickets from you Saver.

by Lino Canaan on Jun 13, 2011 11:51 PM MST via mobile reply actions

portland is at a cross roads and if they decide to rebuild it could happen

by hawk7 on Jun 13, 2011 11:56 PM MST up reply actions

Really ?

Explain me their situation please

Do not let Steve Nash and Grant Hill go away, please.
Otherwhise im not buying any tickets from you Saver.

by Lino Canaan on Jun 14, 2011 8:08 AM MST up reply actions

They are at the point where they must choose to either make a huge trade for a superstar or totally rebuild if not they will end up like the suns playoffs every year for a few years but never make the finals

by hawk7 on Jun 14, 2011 11:31 AM MST up reply actions

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Phoenix might be giving up too much in this trade though.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4abveqw

Re-sign BAMF.

by brian13 on Jun 14, 2011 12:08 AM MST reply actions

ooh ooh!

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3ht7ney

Re-sign BAMF.

by brian13 on Jun 14, 2011 12:10 AM MST up reply actions

That'd be a good deal but I really don't want to give up Chilly. you know?

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by Scott Howard on Jun 14, 2011 4:34 AM MST up reply actions

Thats true

And I’m not sure if we should give up on Robin just yet, either. People forget how athletic he used to be. Look at this lateral quickness!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKqoe9pUEKg

Re-sign BAMF.

by brian13 on Jun 14, 2011 2:19 PM MST up reply actions

I am with you guys totally

and hence do not want to give them away in a fire sale. I have seen some people calling them real bad names as no body and totally disagree.

If we have to trade them, I would rather show case them and get better value which will be believable quickly as both have proven to be good players in the past.

by az_kevin on Jun 14, 2011 2:27 PM MST up reply actions

both of these trades will never ever happen even in dreams

by hawk7 on Jun 14, 2011 5:45 PM MST up reply actions

Keep the pick

acquire a guard/wing that can score and fits in our system. Marshon Brooks or Hamilton would work for me.

by The Suns on Jun 14, 2011 12:36 AM MST reply actions

Keep the pick and depending ondraft day trades, take
SG/SF: Hamilton/Alex Burks
PF: Tristan Thompson/Marcus Morris
or Biymbo – but SUNS will have to be very patient with him. He does not have a offsensive game and will take time to develop as he is still very raw.

by az_kevin on Jun 14, 2011 8:57 AM MST up reply actions

This reminds me of what people used to say about Amar'e

Except he has defensive prowess rather than offensive prowess.

by lixuec on Jun 16, 2011 4:22 AM MST up reply actions

I say make a trade and get them both

by marques m on Jun 18, 2011 2:23 PM MST up reply actions

Fredette please.

I don't know what to put in my sig.

by shawndy on Jun 14, 2011 1:33 AM MST reply actions

It sounds like some sort of venereal disease

Suns v Spurs in the 1st round. Make this happen.

by jc79 on Jun 14, 2011 9:28 AM MST up reply actions

lol, yea

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 14, 2011 10:41 AM MST up reply actions

But he may not be able to play for us for 2 years due to his euro buyout

by Suns Fan For Life on Jun 14, 2011 12:37 PM MST up reply actions

Numbers 1 and 3 are never going to happen. There is no way all-stars like that will be traded to us for the poo-poo platter we offered up there. Chicago is a championship contender and not going to make stupid trades. Portland would probably offer everyone on their roster, except Aldridge. Not happening. On number 2, isn’t David West a free agent? I am fine with just signing him, depending on price.

I think the most likely scenario is for us to trade #13 and Pietrus for a pick in the 7-10 range. There, we will probably take Thomspon, Biyombo, or Jimmer. Jimmer is shooting up the draft boards and is at #7 Sacramento on most of them now. He was really impressive in all the drills. I am starting to believe in this guy. I’m fine if we get a decent 4 in free agency and draft Jimmer.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 14, 2011 10:44 AM MST reply actions

Tristan I meant, not Klay. He is a possibility too though.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 14, 2011 10:44 AM MST up reply actions

I believe David West has an opt out clause

by hawk7 on Jun 14, 2011 11:29 AM MST up reply actions

For example, here are a couple trades I could see going down on draft night:

Pietrus and #13 to Bobcats for #9 and Tyrus Thomas (potential but ouch contract)

Pietrus and #13 to Sacramento for #7 and Udrih (could be good backup for us or even take over for a while if Nash gets hurt or is traded. Not sure they want to get rid of him tho or that they would trade down)

Or Pietrus, Warrick (or Chilly) and #13 to Detroit for Hamilton and #8. (could happen and I’d be okay with it)

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 14, 2011 11:46 AM MST up reply actions

I know this is a long shot

but the mock draft over at http://www.nbadraft.net/2011mock_draft has us getting Kemba Walker at the 13th pick. I think this is largely due to Jimmer sudden rise as they have Sactown taking him 7th and Utah taking Leonard at 12th. I think this would be a dream come true. What say you?

by Suns Fan For Life on Jun 14, 2011 1:53 PM MST reply actions

that would be cool. Like him

by az_kevin on Jun 14, 2011 2:00 PM MST up reply actions

I saw that too. If he’s available, definitely. I’m down with that. I just have this feeling we are trading up.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 14, 2011 3:49 PM MST up reply actions

I'm not really a fan of Kemba Walker

he’s a little small and made his name on the college level by hitting big shots. Sounds a lot like Jonny Flynn and Acie Law to me.

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by Alex Laugan on Jun 14, 2011 5:10 PM MST up reply actions

fair enough. Could be true. I sure don’t know.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 14, 2011 9:17 PM MST up reply actions

Kemba!

I love Kemba his smallness and speed would go perfect here in our up tempo style of play and with Steve Nash teaching him how to pass I believe it would be a success but i doubt he will drop that far but one can hope

by hawk7 on Jun 14, 2011 5:46 PM MST up reply actions

Biyombo going 20th?

I’m with Alex, Kemba seems a little too much like a college flame. If Kemba and Biyombo are both available at 13, I’d pick Bismack. Unless we could pick and trade Kemba immediately for better talent.

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by ajcarleton on Jun 15, 2011 6:11 AM MST up reply actions

Draft BPA

Or trade it for OJ Mayo or something.

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Jun 14, 2011 1:57 PM MST reply actions

Gani Lawal - have posted this on another thread as well

I have been so caught up in the draft mania that I have hardly thought of how is Gani Lawal’s game now after a year in the SUNS team? Anyone know?

He has had a chance to improve through summer camp, D-league, Suns practice and being on the team for a year.

How does he compare now to some of the forwards being discussed actively – Morris twins, Tristan Thompson and others? Any ideas?

by az_kevin on Jun 14, 2011 9:05 PM MST reply actions

well, from what I’ve heard he just started running recently.

I, too, wonder what he’s been working on. I crossing my fingers that he’s been shooting 1000 jumpers a day + 1000 free throws, like Amare did when he hurt his knee. Unfortunately, I’m guessing we would have heard that news leak by now since the Suns are starving for young talent.

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by Alex Laugan on Jun 15, 2011 7:06 AM MST up reply actions

as far as pre-draft projections (last year for Gani vs. this year for Thompson, Markieff Morris), Gani profiled very much like Thompson (lots of hustle and toughness, very raw offensive game). Thompson’s advantage is that he’s 2 yrs younger than Gani was at draft time, which allows for more natural growth to happen. Morris has a bit different profile. He can catch-and-shoot – all the way out to the 3-pt line, as well as play defense. Yet, with that extra skill he’s still rated lower than Thompson and about the same as Gani last year, so that means his defense/rebounding or athleticism must be as good as theirs.

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by Alex Laugan on Jun 15, 2011 7:11 AM MST up reply actions

Thanks

If Gani is coming along fine and is putting the effort and seems similar to some of the players mentioned in this years draft, it would be a waste of the draft picks.

One thing about the SUNS system in the last 7 years 9and to some extent before also), I have not liked is the rookies hardly get a chance to play. Landry Fields (2nd round, 9th pick last year) would not have got a chance to play for the SUNS (I am really surprised he played in the D’Antoni system). Overall, have been disappointed in the way the new players are brought in unlike what I read about how OKC or some other teams are doing.

It would be nice if the FO and the scouts have improved in their analysis for the draft and trades/FA and really get players who can play and fit in our systems (a steal would be nice, the way San Antonio or OKC have always done).

by az_kevin on Jun 15, 2011 2:12 PM MST up reply actions