With the 13th Pick in the 2011 NBA Draft the Phoenix Suns Select: Markieff Morris
by Eutychus on Jun 23, 2011 6:18 PM MST
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PrintWith the 13th pick in the 2011 NBA Draft the Phoenix Suns select Kansas Forward Markieff Morris. Markieff is the older brother (by 7 minutes) of Marcus Morris who also played for Kansas and was drafted by the Houston Rockets with the 14th pick. At 6'10", 240 pounds and with a 6'10" wingspan Markieff Morris is the bigger of the two brothers and he is also a basketball player with an established position being the Power Forward. This in contrast to Marcus who is a few inches shorter, considered a 'tweener' (between positions, the PF and the SF) and plays a more finesse type of ball. Markieff is a powerful big man that likes the mix-it up down in the paint, but also he can step out and shoot from distance with skilled precision, an attribute that makes him an understandable and a wise choice for the Phoenix Suns.
But imagine that, for the 3rd time in the last 3 years the Phoenix Suns have drafted a twin brother. The third time's a charm right? Well, that's what we hope since the first two attempts have not panned out for the Suns. Taylor Griffin is somewhere in Europe playing 'really hard', and Robin Lopez is being shopped all around the league as we speak after disappointing seasons here in the valley.
But I have a feeling that this situation with Markieff may be different. For one thing - this will be the first time in 3 tries that the Suns will receive the higher drafted brother... It's funny that the one prospect that we didn't preview here at Bright Side of the Suns ends up being 'the guy'. With that being said, let's go ahead and take a look at what we have here with Markieff Morris.
Hear it from his mouth yesterday - a lot of the questions you might have are answered here.
And here's a clip of him working out that shows off some good footwork and a little about his game.
I'd also suggest you check out his bio page at Draft Express and scroll down to see the video on his Strengths/Weaknesses.
Some of the strengths listed are his athleticism, his interior scoring, shooting (shoots well from mid-range and shot 42% behind the arc averaging almost 3 attempts per game last year), his rebounding (offensively rebounds at a high rate) and his good individual defense and defensive positioning.
Markieff definitely addresses a need for the Phoenix Suns that hasn't quite been taken care of since Amare Stoudemire left a year ago at the Power Forward position. We've needed a scoring PF that can defend and also score on the block or at least off the pick and pop so we can keep the floor spaced. Also from watching video on Morris he seems very comfortable finishing on the break at the rim and handling alley-oops and other interior passes from his teammates. That is something that will be very important for him here with the Phoenix Suns.
Another positive I can find is his toughness. He's scrappy, get's excited after making big plays and he isn't afraid to speak his mind. From this article he's quoted on talking a little trash to the number 2 pick in this year's draft, Derrick Williams -
"I didn't think he was as good as advertised," Morris said. "He got the benefit of the calls from the ref and we had to guard him different. He definitely had a good game against us, because we couldn't guard him how we wanted to guard him, and that's what happened."
So when he hears that Williams is a lock to go in the top two, Morris said, "It's still surprises me. What he did to Duke, he wouldn't do that to me or my brother [Marcus]. I'm dead serious. He wouldn't. At all. He's good. But if we was to work out, I would go at him and I would be able to stop him more than people would expect, you know what I mean."
I like. We need some attitude. Some toughness.
The draft isn't over yet as I write - but I suspect this might be our only takeaway from tonight's actions. I hope I'm wrong because we can use all the help and mojo we can get. If I had to grade the pick at this very moment - I would say it's a good choice... though the fact that Kawhi Leonard was also available for the Suns at 13, and the fact that the San Antonio Spurs just traded away George Hill to the Pacers to take Kawhi - those things make my belly ache just a little bit.
But we needed a PF that could rebound/defend and score and our FO stuck to their guns and took the best available option. Only time will tell the real story.
This humble blogger approves of the pick and is excited to see just how well he can spread the floor and operate in the pick and roll. Maybe we can gets some authoritative dunks from someone other than Hakim Warrick.
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They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
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I like that Marcus was on the board and the Suns still went with Markieff
I'm Biwinning, I win here and I win there!
They stuck to their guns and went with the player they liked more, and I like that.
I'm Biwinning, I win here and I win there!
What a mistake....
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
He'll be okay.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I don't know enough about him to be furious
But Scott said he’ll be a solid bench player for the next 10 years, and I can live with that.
backup powerforward
We drafted our backup power forward of the future! If Gani Lawal doesn’t work out that is.
I would have rather had us draft Vesely's girlfriend.
by omnicious on Jun 23, 2011 6:23 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
We still have Nash and Gortat
So I consider this a good Draft Day.
by Toon Army Sun on Jun 23, 2011 6:24 PM MST reply actions 14 recs
Forever!
Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!
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I like the pick it fills a need for the 4 position.
We’ll just have to wait and see how he pans out, but lets give him a chance too before we judge him.
I was never high on Clark when there were questions about his desire.
by Sunderstruck on Jun 23, 2011 6:48 PM MST up reply actions
his DX Profile
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Markieff-Morris-5179/
"SIR ALEX FERGUSON" Greatest Manager of all time
Stronger Ersan Ilyasova
who the hell is that?!
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He’s pretty damn solid.
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by hcblankscreen on Jun 23, 2011 6:27 PM MST up reply actions
Illyasova is a beast
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
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Had to slightly change the silly fan post I wrote last night
But other than that, I’m OK.
He’s probably better for the team than Marcus because he’s more of a banger, and we could use that. He’s also the better three-point threat.
New York, the other Planet Orange.
bangs, rebounds, and shoots an open 3. not too shabby, really.
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by Alex Laugan on Jun 23, 2011 6:33 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes.
What did people expect in a weak draft at #13? This is actually a good pick. Sure, we already have a weak PF who can shoot the three, but I think Markieff is a little more physical than Frye and is being judged too harshly.
San Antonio traded for Kawhi Leonard...
That tells me we probably should have picked him.
I like Leonard more than Hill
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Agreed
Leonard will come back to haunt us. Everything I hear about him I love. Hard worker, gym rat, constant improvement. I think we really missed here.
by spf13 on Jun 23, 2011 10:34 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I agree
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I've never watched Markieff play,
but based on all descriptions of him, he sounds like exactly what we needed – or at least the best we could have expected to get at 13 in this draft. I’m going to go ahead and be happy with the decision.
At least we have a defensive PF
Frye is fine with the offence but defence is his weakness, and Warrick….well, let forget about him for now..
with Morris, hopefully we can have better rebounds and defense in tight games like the one against Lakers last season, so our defense should be improving
I am dissapointed
…Leonard, Jordan Hamilton, Chris Singleton, Kenneth Faried were still there.
The Spurs are going to get great rookies as usual, and for that, I hate them.
Sometimes I think that we are not interested in winning. I hate to say it but a major free agent is not coming here to play. We have to be agrresive during the draft and hope to get an impact player. Hopefully they can get another pick and draft either Jordan Hamilton, Josh Shelby or Jeremy Tyler..Or Marshon Brooks
Only now?
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Maybe it only just happened.
And the last few months have been a dream. Or is it a dream within a dream?
Grant Hill: where making MVPs look like wannabes happens.
Stand your ground men! Stand your ground!
"We never tried Amar'e, Nash, and a live Grizzly bear." -Scott Howard, January 18, 2010
The only thing i am disappointed if they wanted Markeif all along...
…they should have just traded down and got something in return. Markeif would have been on the board either way.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
he would have been gone by 16 at the latest
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 23, 2011 8:25 PM MST up reply actions
As Eagle Sun would say
Forget about the twin aspect. We just drafted Karl Malone 2.0!
Re-sign BAMF.
by brian13 on Jun 23, 2011 6:41 PM MST reply actions 3 recs
I challenge the assumption some make that "we picked the lesser twin"
As others have already said, Markieff is a legit-size PF with a PF’s game, while Marcus is a tweener. Sure, Marcus accomplished more in college because he’s more of an all-around scorer, but he’s a bit undersized. I’ve seen Marcus projected as more of a SF.
I wonder what this means for Hakim Warrick and Gani Lawal. Right now we have Channing Frye, Hakim Warrick, Morris and Lawal at PF. Frye and Morris likely aren’t going anywhere, so what becomes of the other two?
Taylor wasn't a twin, was he?
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
The reason I’m upset is because I think this pick could have been used to get a power forward from either Utah or Minnesota because they are both overcrowded.. I’d rather have Beasley, Randolph, Millsap, or Favors than Morris
Hmm...
You’d rather have high lottery picks and a proven NBA vet than the 13th pick in a weak draft? Me too. Unfortunately, I doubt the other teams feel the same.
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by Omaha Sun on Jun 23, 2011 9:57 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Please refresh the page and vote on the poll homies!
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If you have 5 then you get a free one.
You haven’t seen the NBA Power Forward punch cards?
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by Scott Howard on Jun 23, 2011 6:54 PM MST up reply actions
Is that the reason for the PGs as well?
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At least your boy Faried was picked ahead of the pick we gave to Houston
Otherwise, you’d be pissed!
by East Bay Ray on Jun 23, 2011 6:52 PM MST up reply actions
haha sooooo true
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
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I know it's fun to say, but it's wrong.
But imagine that, for the 3rd time in the last 3 years the Phoenix Suns have drafted a twin brother.
Taylor Griffin is not Blake’s twin. He’s 3 years older.
Twitter: @MikeLisboa
What about
But imagine that, for the 3rd time in the last 3 years the Phoenix Suns have drafteda twinthe lesser brother.
Don't trade Dudley!
Also, not a dig at Euty.
Everyone’s been saying it all day. We’re better than this. Taylor Griffin was a Sun. This is Bright Side of the Sun. Not only should we have known that Taylor was 3 years older, we should probably know his favorite Underoo (Aquaman, duh).
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minor details...
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I'm going to leave it because he will always be a twin in my heart
… a twin that was in a horrible accident… and grew shorter because of it, and less athletic… and a wizard came and took some of his basketball skills away..
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by Eutychus on Jun 23, 2011 6:55 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
And his hair. He lost all his hair in that accident, too.
by East Bay Ray on Jun 23, 2011 6:56 PM MST up reply actions
minor details...
leave the guy alone, it’s bad enough he didn’t grow as tall – no need to bring up sensitive subjects
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
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LOL.
Taylor Griffin was a Sun
Still funny.
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by Scott Howard on Jun 23, 2011 6:57 PM MST up reply actions
maybe they started as twins
and blake used the three years to work on is game…and is hiar line
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
where eff you been!
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
Don't be so selfish man.
We deserve more monkey on this site. In fact, we DEMAND it!
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I'm not bummed by this at all
He solves a definite need, and he is a real, proper, born to play 4 big. We could really do with one of those!
Make sure you refresh and vote!
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It's been so long since we've had a Suns-related thread.
I had forgotten how neurotic and apocalyptic everyone is. I’m going to miss them.
by East Bay Ray on Jun 23, 2011 6:58 PM MST up reply actions
We're the worst.
But hey we have fun.
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by Scott Howard on Jun 23, 2011 7:00 PM MST up reply actions
Lol. Agreed. Personally I love the pick. I said this morning he was going to be the best available for us at 13 and was going to be our pick. I think they took the right guy. A lot of you are going to be eating your words. He is going to contribute for us next year and far into the future. We need his defense, rebounding and toughness. Love it.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 23, 2011 8:28 PM MST up reply actions
Because we need a power forward with all-star/starting potential
we got a role player.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
I know, but the FO is not going to sign or trade for a good PF now
since they have Frye, Warrick, Morris, and Lawal.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
Cut them some slack
What if they trade VC for an all-star 2? Lets see how everything plays out before we totally panic! If they move Lope, Markieff should be a fine pick.
Or what if they trade VC and one or two pf the PFs for a stud PF?
Then sign a good SG?
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We got a guy who can contribute day one
That means we likely keep Nash – call me crazy, but I;d rather have Nash and Markieff than no Nash.
There was only one in this draft, and he went #2
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 23, 2011 8:28 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah I'm actually stoked
I’m positive Robin Lopez is going to be moved, my magic eight ball told me. So I’m excited to see how our front court turns out – Frye and Gortat are pretty solid if you ask me. add the potential of Morris and Lawal and maybe some other acquisitions… we could be solid.
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Does your Magic 8-Ball get DX twitter updates?
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I actually don't follow him. Not a big fan of the dude.
Though I visit and enjoy the content of the website frequently
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12
I don't follow anyone on Twitter.
But I did check out the site od D-Day and it had all his tweets displayed on the page. One of the early ones was about the Suns shopping Frolo.
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where did he say that?
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Does anybody have any info on why Vince Carter’s deadline got extended? Are we trying to trade him or are we going to keep him?
by Lebrontophx2010 on Jun 23, 2011 6:58 PM MST reply actions
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
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no problem amigo!
And welcome to the bright side
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
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z
Gentry talking about the pick on ESPN NBA home page.
I would have loved Suns getting...
Kemba Walker of Jimmer to backup Nash/ future starter. But with them gone i’m ok with Markieff Morris – he can still spread the floor ala Frye while paired with Gortat but can play tough inside defensively I would have been ok with Faried to, but not Marcus Morris!
This does not inspire confidence
Asked about the choice of Markieff over his twin brother Marcus, Blanks was a bit unclear in his response, “I think the draft’s a funny thing. You never know why teams do what they do…As to why Markieff over Marcus, who knows.”
What the fudge? Wow. Who knows? Who knows, guys? Who knows!
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Jun 23, 2011 7:01 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
God, Lance Blanks is a terrible GM.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
LOL
You guys are so funny. Give the guy a break. This is only the beginning and its his first draft with us. The comment sounds more metaphysical than anything. He is probably blowing smoke to hide something.
"We never tried Amar'e, Nash, and a live Grizzly bear." -Scott Howard, January 18, 2010
partially true
but shouldn’t he know why he picked the dude? Its alright for us to say we don’t know but we aren’t the GM.
I’m thinking Blanks was referring to the other teams – as to why THEY didn’t draft Marcus in the top 13. There’s a dozen other interviews where Blanks clearly explains the needs of the Suns, and Markieff fits them a lot better than Marcus.
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nice try
but no….he just flubbed the question.
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by Seth Pollack on Jun 24, 2011 7:27 AM MST up reply actions
Not like it's his job to know that stuff dude.
Lay off.
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by Scott Howard on Jun 23, 2011 7:02 PM MST up reply actions
I'm just going to come out and say it
I think Lance Blanks kind of sucks. I know, he knows 123098324x more than me, but that’s my opinion.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Kind of sucks?
No, he really sucks.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
HAHAHAHAH
(cry)
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by Eutychus on Jun 23, 2011 7:05 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
I'm still laughing at "who knows"
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Best takeaway from the draft so far?
METTA WORLD PEACE.
We could have drafted an Otter Pop (not really) and this would have gotten me through the day. I really can’t say enough that Ron Artest is just the best thing ever.
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Funny you should mention Otter Pops
Because Sir Isaac Lime was Artest’s second choice for a new name.
by East Bay Ray on Jun 23, 2011 7:03 PM MST up reply actions
Besides my general despise of everything University of Kansas....I'm cool with the Morris pick.
He’s solid. Won’t be great, won’t be a bust. I can live with that out of this draft.
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RIP Seasons of Discontent
Thats the problem
What is a player who “won’t be great, but wont be a bust” do for us right now? We’re still going to be a fringe playoff team.
Not saying that anyone available would have definitely made us a contender, but I think even Markieff’s ceiling wouldn’t improve us that much.
Re-sign BAMF.
And he can contribute ASAP
Rebounding, toughness and defending. Pretty much what we needed.
Now we just need ONE more move…
OMG. We have Scott Howard on board? Damn. Now, I know he will be an all-star. Always pick the over on Scott’s comments!
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 23, 2011 8:31 PM MST up reply actions
That's not the real one
This is the twin brother.
Alea iacta est!
by PolishHammer on Jun 23, 2011 9:23 PM MST up reply actions
When will we trade Robin!!!
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
He can barely walk!!
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
Seriously kid. Relax.
"We never tried Amar'e, Nash, and a live Grizzly bear." -Scott Howard, January 18, 2010
we could have snagged him if we had ORL's first rounder
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
lol
I would dig up the threads after the the trade and say “I told you so” except it sucks all the way around.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
The ending hasn't been written yet.
Brooks has only played 25 games in Phoenix. And, maybe I’m wrong about Hamilton and he will suck. Still gotta wait and see how it plays out.
by East Bay Ray on Jun 23, 2011 7:11 PM MST up reply actions
East Bay Ray
I noticed that too..It makes us not drafting him that much worse. Hopefully we make a deal with Dallas
by Lebrontophx2010 on Jun 23, 2011 7:09 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah. Too bad he’s not going to play. Poor guy.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 23, 2011 8:31 PM MST up reply actions
He ended up in Portland via trade.
Must have been some serious red flags teams saw when they worked him out and interviewed him. I saw him projected as high as top 10.
by East Bay Ray on Jun 23, 2011 8:34 PM MST up reply actions
Okay. He will play then. Good for him. Potential steal for Portland.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 23, 2011 8:56 PM MST up reply actions
Denver, not POR.
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Why is ESPN so slow on reporting the trades?
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
not watching, what trades have transpired since the draft started?
"I'm a nobody." - Steve Nash in 1997
by PHXSunsRunNGun on Jun 23, 2011 7:06 PM MST up reply actions
a ton, check Woj's twitter
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
Nothing really blockbuster though.
The biggest trade so far seems to be the threeway by the Bucks, Kings, and Bobcats.
Grant Hill: where making MVPs look like wannabes happens.
i think DX's best case scenario of Markieff is spot on.
i definitely see the potential in him to be Rasheed Wallace without the crazy — good post game, ability to knock down the 3, good one on one post defender. but i think he will probably end up being a better rebounder than Sheed because he simply has better work ethic.
"I'm a nobody." - Steve Nash in 1997
AND without the bald spot!?
BINGO!
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*Vitiligo
Achievement is its own reward, pride obscures it.
by hcblankscreen on Jun 23, 2011 7:31 PM MST up reply actions
That would be high praise
even better than Rasheed. Lets see if the Suns is patient enough to develop him
So.....
What do you guys want to talk about for the next 6-12 months?
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How about that weather?
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
Pretty sweet. Pretty sweet.
Though I’m in England right now where it rains every fucking day.
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by Scott Howard on Jun 23, 2011 7:08 PM MST up reply actions
You're still there? What the bloody hell?
You need to write at least one post about your experience as a sports fan in the UK or something.
by East Bay Ray on Jun 23, 2011 7:13 PM MST up reply actions
Come home next Friday.
It’s been long and I refused to sacrifice sleep for the NBA playoffs
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by Scott Howard on Jun 23, 2011 7:16 PM MST up reply actions
Speaking of England,
where the heck is Keith?
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It just plain makes sense.
Maybe too much.
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by Scott Howard on Jun 23, 2011 7:09 PM MST up reply actions
It really is.
I’m very impressed how good they are playing.
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by Scott Howard on Jun 23, 2011 7:09 PM MST up reply actions
Plus, they were one of the few teams to be given an "A" for their Draft
Things are just working for them right now.
It makes watching a pleasure
and my eyes don’t bleed as much this year. I haven’t had to rake them with my fingernails as much.
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Mighty Ones?
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by Scott Howard on Jun 23, 2011 7:13 PM MST up reply actions
lame ones
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Rudy Fernandez to Dallas for Jordan Hamilton
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
... they want another undersized Hispanic white guard?
"I'm a nobody." - Steve Nash in 1997
by PHXSunsRunNGun on Jun 23, 2011 7:09 PM MST up reply actions
Hamilton now going to Denver
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
Goodness, Markieff has beast numbers per 40 minutes...
22.3 points, 13.6 rebounds. Blake Griffin numbers. This guy is really efficient
"I'm a nobody." - Steve Nash in 1997
wait
is that his stat in college or just a projection?
Those are his college stats per 40 minutes.
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by PHXSunsRunNGun on Jun 23, 2011 7:17 PM MST up reply actions
not bad
so why are we so down on this guy? Almost seems like a steal for us
It's knee jerk reaction
Most peeps wanted someone to fall (me included) and we ended up getting exactly who we thought we would. Not very encouraging for an organization with shaky draft history and a roiling team.
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exactly, Euty... how do you feel about this pick?
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by PHXSunsRunNGun on Jun 23, 2011 7:25 PM MST up reply actions
He will be efficient in the NBA too. That’s the perfect word for him.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 23, 2011 8:33 PM MST up reply actions
Chicago trades 28th pick to Charlotte for Michael Jordan
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Because they are perenially bad.
"We never tried Amar'e, Nash, and a live Grizzly bear." -Scott Howard, January 18, 2010
that's the only way the team get national press coverage
because they are not getting it done on the court
looks like Goran Dragic is 3rd on the PG depth chart in Houston now
unless he can beat out Jonny Flynn
"I'm a nobody." - Steve Nash in 1997
He'll kill it on the scout team.
Or in a suit.
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by Scott Howard on Jun 23, 2011 7:17 PM MST up reply actions
the latter
"I'm a nobody." - Steve Nash in 1997
by PHXSunsRunNGun on Jun 23, 2011 7:18 PM MST up reply actions
And the Suns make a trade
to Houston for Goran with Markeiff Morris
sigh
Opening the door for the Suns to trade for him to come back!
DiM, you out there?
by East Bay Ray on Jun 23, 2011 7:18 PM MST up reply actions
I say let the lefty white PG develop on a Texas team for a couple years, and snag him when he becomes a perennial All-Star.
These scenarios seem to work out for us
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by PHXSunsRunNGun on Jun 23, 2011 7:21 PM MST up reply actions
Eh,
I’d call it closert than that. Both have serious issues. But at least Goran has legitimate size.
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If he does this FO will feel really stupid
Seeing as how we wanted Flynn so badly
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
About the pick
I feel like a kid waking up on Christmas day to nothing but boring clothes. At least it wasn’t a lump of coal.
Don't trade Dudley!
Underwear.
And tighty whities. Not even the cool bikini-style animal prints I usually wear.
by East Bay Ray on Jun 23, 2011 7:20 PM MST up reply actions
get out of my closet ray
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Made me laugh
good way to look at it. Clothes are needed though.. sometimes.
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only a few of those in this draft
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
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From Gambo. There will be no trade.
@Gambo620 John Gambadoro
After taking markieff morris suns attempted to trade for iman shumpert to no avail
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
is the case
I’m walking my dogs
hit enter by mistake, sorry for double posting
In other words
that was our big plan to make a big splash in the draft. I am interested in hearing if any other deals were discussed by our FO
by Suns Fan For Life on Jun 23, 2011 10:42 PM MST up reply actions
What else could we possibly need?
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by Scott Howard on Jun 23, 2011 7:22 PM MST up reply actions
WTF, i would rather have markieff than shumpert. why we would need a 3rd string PG as opposed to a defensive rebounding 4 i have no idea
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by PHXSunsRunNGun on Jun 23, 2011 7:22 PM MST up reply actions
Preach it. That whole Shumpert dance was just puzzling
But not as puzzling as believing Hakim and Hedo could replace Amare, so there was just enough element of “could they really be so stupid” as to make it interesting.
New York, the other Planet Orange.
What are all those people standing and sitting at the podium doing?
Is there another press conference in the works?
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
Nash doesn't deserve this.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
He gets to play with Markieff Morris. Pretty sure he's on Cloud 9.
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by Scott Howard on Jun 23, 2011 7:23 PM MST up reply actions
HA. I'm actually cool with the pick.
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by Scott Howard on Jun 23, 2011 7:25 PM MST up reply actions
There's no "Why the hell didn't we pick Marcus" button in the poll
So I’ll just vote here.
New York, the other Planet Orange.
I like Markieff.
The only problem I can see with this is that if Channing Frye continues on his rebounding/defending development curve then Markieff’s skillset will be redundant
"I'm a nobody." - Steve Nash in 1997
I don't think Channing can bang like that. No matter how much he improves.
Just IMO.
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by Scott Howard on Jun 23, 2011 7:25 PM MST up reply actions
so how do you feel about the pick Scott?
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by PHXSunsRunNGun on Jun 23, 2011 7:26 PM MST up reply actions
Solid. I think he'll be a guy. Not great but far from a bust.
I can live with that.
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by Scott Howard on Jun 23, 2011 7:27 PM MST up reply actions
agreed
"I'm a nobody." - Steve Nash in 1997
by PHXSunsRunNGun on Jun 23, 2011 7:32 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, Markieff is a tough guy
He just said so himself so it must be true.
by East Bay Ray on Jun 23, 2011 7:26 PM MST up reply actions
He won't
Look at his season splits – he had two good months.
we do need another PF
since we only have 1 true PF (Channing) right now. Need another one for the 2nd unit
Frye’s likely to play half at the 4 and half at the 5 this season with Lopez gone. That will give more time at the 4 to Morris and Warrick (or Lawal or someone else if we make a trade).
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 23, 2011 8:36 PM MST up reply actions
I think Channing is very effective as a stretch 5, as long as there’s a threat near the basket. Maybe Morris can offer that.
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Do you guys think Hill will come back?
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
Hill will be here. Dead straight certain.
If they felt there was any opportunity for an opening at the 3 spot, they’d probably have taken Marcus
New York, the other Planet Orange.
Chilly will start and Pietrus will back him up if that happened.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
My wish for this off-season...
Is that Chilly learns to shoot and Pietrus learns not to.
New York, the other Planet Orange.
by suns68 on Jun 23, 2011 7:35 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
And not start the season with a broken finger which hinders that.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
Hill will definitely start over Chilly. chilly will be lucky if he gets more than 12 mins per game
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 23, 2011 8:37 PM MST up reply actions
Wow...
"I didn’t think he was as good as advertised," – Markieff Morris on Derrick Williams
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
You know what, I like Markieff next to Gortat.
Really good complements on and off the court
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by PHXSunsRunNGun on Jun 23, 2011 7:28 PM MST up reply actions
I can’t wait to see both combos. I am getting all frothy at the mouth.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 24, 2011 10:40 AM MST up reply actions
would be funny
if somehow the Suns ended up getting DW somehow some way
Alright just for kicks.....everyone predict what you think Morris will do next year (minutes per game, ppg, rpg)
Assume a full season (which I realize is quite LOL). Then after that let me know how you think he will be in his prime. Jokes are acceptable.
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Even LOLier
Since Suns draft picks have a mandatory 2 months on the bench followed by 2 months in Iowa followed by 2 months on the bench.
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To be fair, the Suns picked a lot of mentally fragile and high-risk guys in recent years.
Earl Head Case Clark, Goran Tragic, and Frolo weren’t really ready for a job in the NBA, but I think Markieff is really solid and grounded and can give us 16-25 quality minutes for us next year
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by PHXSunsRunNGun on Jun 23, 2011 7:31 PM MST up reply actions
Until separation anxiety sets in as he is separated from his twin for the first time in... forever
and he breaks into a fit of rage… then of sorrow.. then he sits and plays NCAA 11 Kansas state games on his xbox only leaving his room to eat…
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My bad - KU games not K-State
please forgive me Scott
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Never.
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by Scott Howard on Jun 23, 2011 7:35 PM MST up reply actions
It's all good Euty.
I know you meant playing games against K-State with KU.
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being a twin
Separation is actually good. You really come into your own and figure out who you are and your own strengths and actually fix your weaknesses that used to be covered by your twin. Could be very good for us.
by Suns Fan For Life on Jun 23, 2011 10:04 PM MST up reply actions
You forgot the six minutes of cleanup duty during the regular season
and playing 42 mins a night in preseason while the starters get their rest
New York, the other Planet Orange.
11 mpg 3 ppg, 2 rpg
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
It'll be more than that. Lucky bastard.
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by Scott Howard on Jun 23, 2011 7:30 PM MST up reply actions
Seriously.
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by Scott Howard on Jun 23, 2011 7:32 PM MST up reply actions
16-20 min
8pts 5.5 boards. over 50% shooting
by Suns Fan For Life on Jun 23, 2011 10:06 PM MST up reply actions
I'd like to buy a 2nd rounder and pick up Jeremy Tyler
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Don't be silly, you know Sarver doesn't buy things.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
He bought Josh Childres.
And Hakim Warrick. So he just likes buying pointless things.
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by Scott Howard on Jun 23, 2011 7:36 PM MST up reply actions
like balls
lot’s of new basket balls
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
Honeycutt hasn't been drafted yet?
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Why are you talking to yourself?
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by Scott Howard on Jun 23, 2011 7:37 PM MST up reply actions
Because I pulled a Blanks.
Trapper was the inferior Hawkeye roommate. Or tentmate as it were. As for why I would have said otherwise, who knows? Please leave me and my M*A*S*H jokes to our lonely selves.
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Wait
Who is better between those two brothers ? Markieff or Marcus ?
supposedly
not the one we drafted
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
However, the fact that Markieff went first in the draft
makes him the better twin.
New York, the other Planet Orange.
oh...
well good for us then.
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
It's not as clear I guess as the Lopez twins distinctions
but Markieff is an actual PF where Marcus thinks he’s Carmelo Anthony or something like that.
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wtf!
why is the FO is always like this? We already drafted lesser twins Taylor, Robin and now Markieff
hey, taylor is a brother, not a twin
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by PHXSunsRunNGun on Jun 23, 2011 7:39 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Debatable.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
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does. not... compute
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
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Wonder if we can trade into the second round and draft Captain America.
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New season of Louie?
OR is it an old one? Anyone know?
New season.
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by Scott Howard on Jun 23, 2011 7:38 PM MST up reply actions
Serioius question though...
Is separation anxiety a real concern for this kid? You guys think he’ll have problems being separated from his brohan?
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Looked like a bigger concern for Marcus IMO.
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by Scott Howard on Jun 23, 2011 7:39 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah
He’ll send Markieff flowers and fruit, and Markieff will have to send him prozac and cologne smothered college jerseys
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I think hes crying cuz he got drafted second.
Just because something hasn't happened doesn't mean it won't happen.
For about 2 weeks until Robin is traded...
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I say we trade Channing for Marcus and not risk it
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by PHXSunsRunNGun on Jun 23, 2011 7:40 PM MST up reply actions
Yes, it's a real concern.
I hope not just for our sake, but his sake that he’ll be alright and adjust.
Don't trade Dudley!
Euty asked for a serious answer, so here goes.
I’m a father of twins and I looked into this a bit.
There are two polar possibilities and a lot of gray between, so bear with me.
Some twins, when they go their separate ways as adults, do face depression and feelings of loneliness.
Others, It’s like, good riddance. Don’t have to share my room any more.
Most, it’s somewhere in the middle.
Modern thinking is it’s best to get them into separate classes, etc. early so they can develop as individuals and there isn’t as much separation anxiety later.
My hope is that Markieff will actually blossom as a player now that he is no longer in his brother’s shadow.
He needs to know that he’s not the Avis child of the Morris brothers anymore. He’s the freaking power forward for the Phoenix freakin’ Suns. If he gets that, he’ll be great.
New York, the other Planet Orange.
I agree with the blossoming thing
I am a twin and that is what happened with my brother and I
by Suns Fan For Life on Jun 23, 2011 10:09 PM MST up reply actions
You mean your bro mde it big after you stopped holding him back?
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Something like that
He became a chiropractor and I joined the Army
by Suns Fan For Life on Jun 23, 2011 10:40 PM MST up reply actions
Oops.
Struck out on that one. You win good sir.
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It's just funny when most of us said for weeks leading up to this draft
“Whatever they do, DON”T PICK THE LESSER BROTHER!".
Now here we are with the lesser brother. It was destiny!
Don't trade Dudley!
I went to a town hall thing for season ticket holders in Feburary...
And someone asked Sarver, Babby and Welts “I only have one question….if in the NBA Draft there are a set of twins available, don’t draft the weaker one”
Then they laughed and said “well there are the Morris boys from Kansas”
Could not stop thinking about that today.
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by Scott Howard on Jun 23, 2011 7:41 PM MST up reply actions
Except he’s really the better brother, in the NBA at least. Marcus will be fine, but Markieff will be better.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 23, 2011 8:47 PM MST up reply actions
Ok, I think the Suns night is over
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Counterpoint: it might not be
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by Scott Howard on Jun 23, 2011 7:42 PM MST up reply actions
bullshit
I can hear the rooster
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
I hear Garrett Siler
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
ouch...
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
Wait, something's wrong.
If it’s draft day, how come Quentin Richardson hasn’t been traded yet?
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by Mike Lisboa on Jun 23, 2011 7:43 PM MST reply actions 3 recs
I was thinking about this answer from Lance today
http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/PaulCoro/130767
Q. Will you feel, if the Suns just stay content at 13 and made no moves at all, that you could get better moving forward?
A. With that pick? Yeah, I think this draft has got a lot of parity. I’m not one of those who get into trying to predict how good the players are or where they’re going to end up.
Between this and “who knows” I’m thinking that his reputation as a “basketball genius” is unwarranted.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Maybe Lance Blanks is like the main character of 'Catch Me If You Can'
Just a great con artist.
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by Scott Howard on Jun 23, 2011 7:46 PM MST up reply actions
Credit to Kerrsed
“I’m not one of those who get into trying to predict how good the players are or where they’re going to end up.” – Blanks
“I think the draft’s a funny thing. You never know why teams do what they do…As to why Markieff over Marcus, who knows” – Blanks
by sqloudane on Jun 23, 2011 7:51 PM MST up reply actions 11 recs
lol I love it
Kerrsed always delivers
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
That was the weirdest reply I have ever heard from a GM.
Who knows why you chose Markeif over Marcus? really?
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
Oh god no. Rockets shopping Flynn to interested teams (Suns)
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
I'm going to laugh if they trade Lopez for Flynn after trading Dragic for Brooks
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I will cry Marcus Morris style
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
but Flynn.... sucks :/
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by PHXSunsRunNGun on Jun 23, 2011 7:53 PM MST up reply actions
paulcoro Paul Coro
Markieff Morris on being taken by Phoenix: “I wanted to cry. That’s just the place that I’ve always wanted to be.”
4 minutes ago
Well, with that sentence he's demonstrated more passion than Earl Clark ever did
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Jun 23, 2011 7:50 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
Which may or may not be a good thing.
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Well what else is he going to say
“I’m f*cking pissed I got drafted by Phoenix”?
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
I asked Robin Lopez what he first thought when we drafted him.
He said, “Thank Goodness it wasn’t the Kings.”
Don't trade Dudley!
I'm excited to watch him play. I say he's a keeper
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by PHXSunsRunNGun on Jun 23, 2011 7:51 PM MST up reply actions
It’s a perfect fit for him, and I’m very glad he wants to be here!
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 23, 2011 8:49 PM MST up reply actions
I feel like every team in the West got better except us.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
The addition of Markieff Morris = the subtraction of Hakim Warrick from the regular rotation
= making us a better team on the whole
"I'm a nobody." - Steve Nash in 1997
by PHXSunsRunNGun on Jun 23, 2011 7:56 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
So the company line of addition by subtraction.
That philosophy took us to the WC championship game. I like it.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
Dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomed.
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by Scott Howard on Jun 23, 2011 7:56 PM MST up reply actions
If you're still offering hugs, Scott
I think Suns R Us could really use one.
by East Bay Ray on Jun 23, 2011 8:01 PM MST up reply actions
lol isn't that how we've felt every season since Nash came back?
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I've felt like that every summer since 2004.
I knew Nash would make that team better. I was thinking 44-49 wins. Instead we got 62.
Don't trade Dudley!
Unfortunately...
One of our better picks in the past couple of drafts. I would have liked to have gotten the guy from SD State, because he has amazing upside, but I understand the Morris pick. I am not shocked we took the “lesser” brother, but after reading a little more about him, I think I am at least two paces back from the edge of the cliff. He seems like he will be a good fit with Nash.
Markieff Morris
is going to bring a championship to the Phoenix Suns
in his association in NBA 2k12, right?
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Dang....Cho has had an amazing draft
Biyombo, Kemba, and Jeremy Tyler
Job well done.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
The Bobcats got exactly what they needed
scoring, star potential at center, youth and overall potential
"I'm a nobody." - Steve Nash in 1997
by PHXSunsRunNGun on Jun 23, 2011 8:00 PM MST up reply actions
Ugh
I know there’s no way we were going to add an 8th big to the roster(now that we have Gortat, Frye, Lopez, Siler, Markieff, Lawal, Warrick), but Tyler has incredible potential…
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
apparently, he’s a complete airhead. When he was working out for Portland, someone asked him what he thought of McMillian. he answered “thats a school or something?”
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I think they would have done better to take Brandon Knight and Leonard or Singleton. I am not sold on Kemba or Biyombo. Both of those guys have huge bust potential. Jordan is either going to look like a genius or like an idiot, again. My guess is the latter.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 23, 2011 8:50 PM MST up reply actions
Jeremy Tyler just got drafted...
I was hoping we’d buy into 2nd round for him. I still have hope though…I’d love it if we got David Lighty.
by 7footer on Jun 23, 2011 7:58 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Golden state just bought him..
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
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Wouldn’t mind picking him up as a 12th man.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 23, 2011 9:43 PM MST up reply actions
Anyone else feel like Blanks has no idea what he's talking about
He said “who knows” as to why they drafted Markieff over Marcus.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
I get the feeling that Blanks has no voice in Suns operations whatsoever
"I'm a nobody." - Steve Nash in 1997
by PHXSunsRunNGun on Jun 23, 2011 8:01 PM MST up reply actions
Warriors bought Jeremy Tyler
smh
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
Seems like the plan is based on
Sign Frye, get Shaq out of here and hope Amar’e recovers from injury. That got us the 2010 WCF’s.
Now?
Sign Morris, get VC out of here and hope that… Pietrus recovers from injury? Crap!
Don't trade Dudley!
by Beavis 25 on Jun 23, 2011 8:00 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Subdued lol
Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!
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So after reading all the freakin news...did we get better¿?
I don’t think so, but i would reserve my judgement on Markieff
I think that now we can get a a good shooting guard…and maybe then we can try to get back to the post season
"Steve Nash is more valuable for the Suns than Kobe for the Lakers" - Jared Dudley
no, we didn't loose Stevie or Marcin
that’s the only and real good thing of the nite, I think
"Steve Nash is more valuable for the Suns than Kobe for the Lakers" - Jared Dudley
I would REALLY feel good about our roster if we get J-Rich back and buy out V.C.
"I'm a nobody." - Steve Nash in 1997
by PHXSunsRunNGun on Jun 23, 2011 8:02 PM MST up reply actions
Then we got quality depth at all positions
"I'm a nobody." - Steve Nash in 1997
by PHXSunsRunNGun on Jun 23, 2011 8:03 PM MST up reply actions
and high-character guys
"I'm a nobody." - Steve Nash in 1997
by PHXSunsRunNGun on Jun 23, 2011 8:04 PM MST up reply actions
J-Rich a high character? mmm i like him, but....
"Steve Nash is more valuable for the Suns than Kobe for the Lakers" - Jared Dudley
Because he was the only one available.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
Overlord Seth was just on the radio
@sethpo Seth Pollack
I’ll be on @Xtra910 radio talking about the Suns draft..in…5 mins ago. Sorry
Draftexpress on Markieff
-Like his twin brother, Markieff Morris had a very efficient season on the whole, scoring 1.08 points per-possession on the year (4th). Though some of that had to do with the development of his perimeter shooting ability, Morris’s offensive abilities are still grounded in the fact that he’s a terrific finisher.
Nearly 41.2% of Morris’s shots came at the rim, and he converted a terrific 69% (3rd) of them. With roughly 40% of his touches coming from roll man situations, cuts to the basket, and offensive rebounds, Morris’s aggressiveness at the point of attack is just one bright spot for him here.
On top of his ability to catch and finish, he also showed marked development with his back to the basket and away from the rim. With some 34% of his possessions coming in the post, Morris scored on 51% (5th) of them. Though he’s not as prolific or versatile as his brother, Morris was able to score one-on-one down low at a fairly consistent level.
Anyone who watched Kansas this season knows that Morris emerged as a competent jump shooter. Nearly 20% of his total shot attempts were jumpers, and he hit them at a second ranked 43% rate. Though he was attempted just 1.5 per-game, the development of his scoring range has Markieff a situational versatility moving to the next level that he simply did not have as an underclassman.
-Marcus Morris is not an elite physical specimen, but he did register a positive wingspan to height ratio (6-10:6-7) at a solid 230 pounds. While he’s still slightly short and not as long as the average power forward in our database, his mature offensive repertoire should help him overcome those limitations early in his career. Considering that many thought he would come in with a shorter wingspan than his height based on measurements conducted last summer, he probably helped himself in this regard, as he joked about in an interview with us. With that said, Morris would have the shortest wingspan of any power forward drafted in the first round according to our database.
-Much like his brother, Markieff Morris didn’t blow anyone away with his measurements, but he did measure ¾ of an inch taller, 10 pounds heavier, and with arms 2 ½" longer than his twin brother. His measurements are almost identical to those of fellow Kansas alum Darrell Arthur.
Last time we checked in on Markieff Morris in late December, he appeared to be coming into his own as a terrific complement to his twin brother, Marcus, on the offensive end. Though he committed 6 first half turnovers as the Jayhawks fell victim to VCU’s improbable Final Four run, Morris’s body of work since our last update has continued to impress scouts, to the point that he’s now viewed as a consensus first round pick.
A strong, explosive, and physical power forward with a readymade NBA frame, Morris has come a long way since his freshman year at Kansas when he shot just 44.8% from the field. Now able to match his athleticism with a number of promising offensive tools, the junior appears to have turned the corner as a prospect.
Perhaps the biggest change in Morris’s game this season has come on the perimeter, where he’s emerged as a reliable spot-up threat, especially when left open. Though Morris knocked down 52.6% of his three-point attempts as a sophomore, his jump shot had not emerged as a significant part of his offensive arsenal, as he only attempted 19 3-point shots all season. Attempting almost two jumpers per-game this season, and connecting on 42.4% of them according to Synergy Sports Technology, Morris has been consistently making the shots he’s getting when defenders collapse on his teammates’ post-ups and drive-and-kicks, something that makes him a valuable offensive cog in many NBA offenses as a floor-spacer.
Around the basket, Morris has continued to improve as a finisher. Progressing steadily with his skill-level in recent years, Morris’s coordination has caught up with his aggression and athleticism around the basket, as evidenced by his near 70% shooting in finishing situations this season and highly ranked 62.5% two-point field goal percentage.
The same can’t necessarily be said for his post play, where he continues to get by on his ability to pin his man on the high-side and finish the lob passes subsequently sent his way. Considering that he connected on 51% of his post-up opportunities according to Synergy Sports Technology, it is safe to say that Morris wasn’t hampered by his lack of a go-to-move on the college level, but it will be important for him to refine his post-game if he wants to see touches consistently in one-on-one situations with his back to the basket on the NBA level as he doesn’t create shots for himself from the midrange.
Though Morris still has a ways to develop, and could stand to cut down on his turnovers and improve his overall decision-making, the progress he’s made this season has been overwhelmingly positive. Looking at his freshman season alone, Morris seemed bound for a basic catch-and-finish role predicated on hustle and defensive toughness that would have him spending virtually all of his times at the rim or in the paint. His offensive skill set now fills a variety of roles that fit nicely with the ever-increasing versatility of the power forward position on the NBA level.
Defensively, Morris has clearly improved on paper, cutting down on his fouls and rebounding the ball at an impressive rate. However, it is his toughness and the way he takes things personally on the defensive end that are most intriguing. His wingspan won’t allow him to be a big factor as a weakside shot blocker, but he’s got the mentality to be a solid one-on-one defensive player and a quality area rebounder early in his career.
While Markieff Morris may not have a tremendous feel for the game or superstar potential, he has all the tools and versatility to enjoy a long NBA career and be a solid contributor on both ends of the floor. Considering his steady ascension over the course of his three year college career, he could clearly continue to improve if given the minutes necessary to feel out his game in the NBA. With a number of highly touted power forward prospects electing to return to school, the recently declared Morris will surely look even more attractive ond raft day.
And a good video breakdown of him: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Markieff-Morris-Video-Breakdown-3738/
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
It's turrible
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
That's crazy rsavaj... I don't think I linked all that above...
*Sarcasm.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
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by Eutychus on Jun 23, 2011 8:57 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
So crazy!
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Sounds good--no great!!-- to me!
very, very excited about this pick
Portland lands Hamilton and Felton
for Andre Miller and Rudy Fernandez?!?! WTF come on Suns get off your asses!!!! Just letting teams around us to get better. Why couldn’t we have picked up Tyler at least. Just shows our FO is not near as smart as others, and aren’t as serious about improving the team. I’m not surprised… just…. disappointed.
"The Knicks with the swiss cheese defense.
...Vince Carter likes cheese." -Walt Frazier
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I dont blame the pick since all other options were taken (except Kawhi)
but it was definitely a letdown seeing his name called. We needed a bit of luck and didn’t get any at all. Now our only hope of competing next year is a miraculous trade by our obviously inept Front Office. I don’t see us spending money on any worthwhile FAs this year.
"The Knicks with the swiss cheese defense.
...Vince Carter likes cheese." -Walt Frazier
Draft's finished for suns anyway
Gambo620John Gambadoro
Unlikely phx gets a 2 rd pick now. Once reggie jackson went late 1st there was no one suns deemed worthy of trading in for
he was right about markieff,might as well believe everything he says now. apocalypse
So our roster right now looks like this
Assuming we keep Brooks
Nash / Brooks / Dowdell
Pietrus / Dudley
Hill / Chilldress
Frye / Warrick / Lawal / Morris
Gortat / Lopez / Siler
Massive logjam at the 4 spot
No starting-caliber 2 guard
No solid backup PG(our FO doesn’t seem to think Brooks is the guy, and ZB is nice but not ready yet IMO)
We have to somehow consolidate our pieces to address those concerns. If Warrick/Chilldress/Pietrus/Brooks could be moved to upgrade our roster, then we should go for it. Of course….who the hell wants those players?
Le sigh.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
yep
only way we make the playoffs is by a miracle trade. Gotta love those odds suns fans! At least we’ll have a high pick next draft. Lets get started scouting those twins!
"The Knicks with the swiss cheese defense.
...Vince Carter likes cheese." -Walt Frazier
I remember a couple of seasons ago...
People said we would never make the playoffs and we made the WCF. Good times.
That was when we had an All-NBA 1st team PF
Now we have Markieff Morris
"The Knicks with the swiss cheese defense.
...Vince Carter likes cheese." -Walt Frazier
Since the Suns didn't get their #1 or #2 choice
I think Morris will be shopped around in a package with Lopez and Pietrus which is why I’m not ready to accept him with open arms, but at the same time I don’t mind the pick, but he could still be traded.
Don't trade Dudley!
fingers crossed
someone please take out our garbage and give us an all-star!
"The Knicks with the swiss cheese defense.
...Vince Carter likes cheese." -Walt Frazier
and if not
at the same time I think they’re satisfied with him enough to sign him if a trade fails.
Don't trade Dudley!
really? I don’t see that happening. I see Morris here longterm.
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More like, Warrick and Lawal:
You are now on notice.
by East Bay Ray on Jun 23, 2011 8:31 PM MST up reply actions
? Markieff was our number one choice all along. I told ya all that this morning and said he will definitely be our pick.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 23, 2011 8:54 PM MST up reply actions
Lol. Well, I said it before him. :)
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 24, 2011 10:41 AM MST up reply actions
I hope we give Morris enough PT to develop
I don’t want this to turn into another Earl Clark sort of situation.
I even wouldn’t mind a trial-by-fire sort of thing….if he doesn’t suck in training camp, what if we started him and moved Frye to the bench? Frye makes the bench so much better.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Playing time wasn't Earl Clark's problem in Phoenix
Earl Clark sucking was Earl Clark’s problem in Phoenix.
by East Bay Ray on Jun 23, 2011 8:26 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with you there
But Orlando seems happy with him as a future defensive stopper…they’ve given him some minutes(not many) and he hasn’t been too terrible.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
he can carry the team when D12 bolts
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
He's a free agent. Let's see where he ends up.
The Magic talked a lot of noise about how much they liked him, then they quietly pushed him down to the end of the bench just like the Suns had done.
by East Bay Ray on Jun 23, 2011 8:29 PM MST up reply actions
totally
"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
Anything on the trading front?
Just got back from walking my dogs and hope to see something get done via trade. The VC issue along with the surplus SF has got to be resolved somehow
They're still waiting for us to offer Carter, Lopez, Pietrus and a bag of chips
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I'd throw in a Dillard's gift card or two
they are having a sales on July 4th
I hope the Suns are working on a deal
to try and bring him over, now that the draft is over
If we get Smith
Frye can be move to C and Hak can be package as another trade piece if he isn’t part of the deal to get Smith in the first place. Frye excel at C once upon a time and he could space the floor
okok. so Frye will be the back up c next to Gortat ? how about Markieff can he get some PT if Jsmooove is here?
I'm going out on a limb here
Frye can switch his time as C/PF, depending who’s on the floor with him. Gortat starting and so is J Smith. Markieff probably will see limited playing time. If memory serves Suns aren’t huge on giving rookies big minutes
VoTS scouting report
http://valleyofthesuns.com/2011/06/08/markieff-morris-under-the-microscope/
He’ll be okay for us.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Glad you’re starting to come around.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 23, 2011 8:55 PM MST up reply actions
We can all just pray...
for the best case scenario to happen. That he’ll be a solid pick. a stat line of 8 & 8 will be a success for me.
that is, as long as Marcin gets 17 & 11. :D
committed to players proudly wearing their Suns jersey..
Something like that is very possible. He’ll certainly do that by his second or third year if not his first.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 23, 2011 9:01 PM MST up reply actions
Anyone else thought about the other smith?
J.R Smith who is leaving the nuggets. He can score in bunches but is a bit of a headcase and not too clever from what I heard. And I think he us a UFA so we wouldn’t have to give up anything for him.
Euty or Scott what do you guys think (I’m not rosterbating I’m just asking do you think he would fit. Actually thats rosterbating pretty much but meh I do what I want. WHen my mum lets me)
Carter having a glazed-eyes contest with Boris Diaw. Carter's winning, but Diaw might respond by eating his eyes.
He'd be pulled over and arrested in Scottsdale less than a week here
Then he’d punch a baby on his way out of jail and crash his car accidentally into a bank….
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
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by Eutychus on Jun 23, 2011 9:12 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Not a fan
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12
by Eutychus on Jun 23, 2011 9:12 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanx Euty
Thats what I thought the answer might eb along the lines of. He is the only 2guard I can see being an available FA that can create his own shot. Any others come to mind?
Carter having a glazed-eyes contest with Boris Diaw. Carter's winning, but Diaw might respond by eating his eyes.
Yeah and JRich was squeaky clean before his move to Scottsdale..
Imagine somebody who’s already been to jail a few times hitting the cobblestone of old town…
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12
That guy says
“You know” more often than Gortat, yet according to the NBA he “Handles all the blue-collar post game duties with consistent efficiency”
I am already looking forward to the Gortat-Morris interview.
Marcin, you have been playing here in Phoenix, you know, for almost a season, how is it, you know, to be a Sun?
Well Marky Morris, you know, it was a good experience, I learned a lot, you know on ehmm, you know the pick and roll with Nash
OMG
Alea iacta est!
I’m thinking that too.
Other comps: Dale Davis, Rasheed Wallace
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or “Frye with toughness” like if Frye had constantly worked on his big-man skills and bulked up from the beginning instead of just shooting 3s
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 24, 2011 10:42 AM MST up reply actions
and i do like the best case scenario again..
that he’ll be rasheed without the crazy.
committed to players proudly wearing their Suns jersey..
not heavier. Maybe stronger. definitely supremely talented. R Wallace > Morris. But that doesn’t mean Morris is a bit pick, either.
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Start Markieff right away
Do it.
Let him find his way, and allow Dudz, Frye to bring back the electric bench squad.
I tend to agree.
Even If Frye plays more minutes (he will). Need taht spark
by Suns Fan For Life on Jun 23, 2011 10:22 PM MST up reply actions
I'm happy with the choice.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Phoenix Suns/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
HAIL TO THE 'KIEFF!
I have a very, very good feeling about this guy as a Phoenix Sun!
by raxado on Jun 23, 2011 10:00 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Talk about a team wheeling and dealing!!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2011/news/story?id=6698564
is the link but here is the essential story:
The Rockets sent the rights to Nikola Mirotic, the 23rd pick, and No. 38, along with Brad Miller and a 2013 first-round pick, to acquire Flynn and Montiejunas.
The Timberwolves then turned around and dealt the rights to Mirotic to Chicago for the rights to Cleveland State guard Norris Cole, selected 28th, and the 43rd pick.
In yet another deal, Minnesota traded the rights to Cole to Miami for the 31st overall pick, a future second-round pick and cash considerations.
Houston initially sent the 38th overall pick to Minnesota, then bought it back to take Florida forward Chandler Parsons.
Kahn's creating a smokescreen
Hoping we’ll forget how bad a GM he is.
Achievement is its own reward, pride obscures it.
by hcblankscreen on Jun 23, 2011 10:21 PM MST up reply actions
John Wooden say...
Never mistake activity for achievement.
by spf13 on Jun 23, 2011 10:43 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Houston turned minimal assets into better assets
I don’t know how they do that every year
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Morey is great, but give our guys time.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 23, 2011 11:39 PM MST up reply actions
really, though?
In the end, they got a 3rd string PG and 2nd and 3rd string SFs on a team already full of SFs.
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For where they drafted, they got good value. Montejunas has a lot of talent. That could be one of the steals of the draft.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 24, 2011 10:43 AM MST up reply actions
I don't know much about Markieff
Except that during college his brother was the much more skilled player offensively. The most I see coming from Markieff is the 9th or 10th guy in your rotation….That’s not someone you should draft out of the lottery, however. I would’ve drafted Jordan Hamilton. I must admit I’m much more familiar with him since he played ball for a team I watched quite often but I just always thought his game transitioned very well into the NBA. Great shooting stroke, long wing span, can post guys up if need be, has NBA 3-pt range, and would’ve been the perfect wing player for this teams future. With, some time in the NBA I think he has the ability to become a great defender as well…Instead, he went to the Mavs where he’ll become Caron Butler 2.0…Except better than the first version.
I’ll support Mr. Morris but I don’t think he was the right choice for this team, especially with guys drafted below him that have a much higher ceiling.
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Hamilton did?
That sucks…Especially if they plan on bringing back Chandler and Gallinari…He’ll get no playing time.
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and, he dropped all the way to the bottom of the first round. Something about shot selection and slow feet.
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Shot selection can be fixed, but slow feet?
I never saw that and I watched almost every Texas Longhorn game. He wasn’t explosive but he was more than adequate with a great wingspan. I just thought we have a clear need at shooting guard and Hamilton was a good match for this team.
"The Phoenix Suns always get the retarded brother; Markieff Morris, Taylor Griffin, Robin Lopez, and the Collns twin."-Some dude from Twitter.
I guess I just read into this, from DX, as having slow feet. Suns already have guys who get regularly blown by…
Probably the weakest aspect of Hamilton’s game right now is his defensive presence. His fundamentals are extremely poor, as he regularly bites on pump-fakes, gambles for steals, falls down mid-possession, and is very upright in his stance, making it easy for opponents to blow by him. His lateral quickness looks average at best, and his intensity level isn’t very high to compensate for that, as he just isn’t physical enough, and doesn’t seem to take very much pride in shutting down his man.
Even though he has the offensive skills to operate as a shooting guard in the NBA, his defensive shortcomings could very well push him to the 3, where he isn’t quite as dangerous a mismatch.
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I think that’s a good point. I think he’ll be okay, but he’s definitely not someone that should have been drafted in the top 18. He slid a bit, but it’s not like we should have taken him.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 24, 2011 10:44 AM MST up reply actions
Well,
There’s always next year’s draft, when we can draft a LeBron/Kobe/Nash hybrid called:
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by troglodytes on Jun 23, 2011 10:36 PM MST reply actions 6 recs
scary thing would be if that was his name on his long-form birth certificate
prescient..
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by Pliny the Elder on Jun 23, 2011 11:37 PM MST up reply actions
Mediocrity
Go ahead type that into google. Within seconds you should see pictures of the Suns for the next several years.
by spf13 on Jun 23, 2011 10:48 PM MST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
My actual assessment
Now that I have calmed down I am willing to say that Morris is ok and is a better fit for the Suns than his brother. The idea of a better twin is silly when their games are this close. It comes down to fit and Markieff fits better on the Suns. I can see him as a Rasheed or even a Boozer. It was disappointing but none of the “steals” fell to us that some of the mock drafts had predicted so the only players you might say we should have picked up was Kawhi or Singleton and their wings to the Suns and they didn’t want wings.
What was really stupid was the Dragic trade. Dragic’s main problem was lacking Frye to space the floor for the bench so he could go to work driving. With Morris as a competent big man three point shooter we could have had Frye backup Gortat or Markieff back up Frye and would have always had a three point shooting big man on the floor. We could have kept Dragic and had the 23 pick. Hell maybe if we continued with the way we were going with Dragic we might even have had a higher draft pick but that is moot (and Nash might have wanted out if we sucked that bad).
Dragic’s main problem was lacking Frye to space the floor for the bench so he could go to work driving.
That hurt, but I wouldn’t call that his main problem.
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yes, Dragic had lots of other problems last season.
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But a steal no one predicted did fall our way and we just flubbed it. Leonard was never seen as falling to us
by Suns Fan For Life on Jun 24, 2011 8:27 AM MST up reply actions
is he really that much more talented than Grant Hill, Jared Dudley and Josh Childress? In his rookie season, I mean… He’d have been stuck playing backup PF for a year or two and realized he was way undersized…
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Potential though is what I was looking at. Plus we let him go to the spurs.. I have a bad feeling he is going to be a thorn for us some time in the future
But we did what a lot of people don’t do in a draft. We drafted for a need not for talent. So if we grade that way. I say need was an A- and talent more like a B-. So overall a B. I see him as a David Thompson with range.
by Suns Fan For Life on Jun 24, 2011 8:53 AM MST up reply actions
agreed, Alex. I would have only taken him if I knew I could trade either he or Chilly. Wonder if the Spurs called us with that George Hill offer?
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 24, 2011 10:46 AM MST up reply actions
well, Hill is a 6’2" combo guard who can give you, at best, 15 pts a game. I wouldn’t give up a lotto pick for that.
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Kawhi Leonard will probably be at least as good as Hill.
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If he ever learns to shoot
No guarantees on that.
Actually, once the Sac trade happened, people were predicting a Leonard fall, and that he may even go to 14 or 15. I didn’t believe it, but they were right.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 24, 2011 10:45 AM MST up reply actions
Yep.
Givony was all over that. His mock was ridiculously accurate.
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DX is always the mock I follow
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Same here.
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Scott Schroeder is a big fan as well, and that guy really knows his stuff.
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I think more deals are in the making
with the way they handled VC’s contract and Lopez is as good as gone. And Josh Smith is still available
I remain optimistic that some deal will get done
I think there is a better chance of obtaining Paul Millsap rather than Josh Smith.
Yes, the Hawks are in a bit of a financial pickle but I don’t think they’re in a rush to blow up the team after what they accomplished in the playoffs. I think the Jazz are ready to see what Derrick Favors can do so Millsap is going to be expendable. We’d probably have too get a third team involved in the trade though since the only piece we have the Jazz would be interested in is Pietrus.
"The Phoenix Suns always get the retarded brother; Markieff Morris, Taylor Griffin, Robin Lopez, and the Collns twin."-Some dude from Twitter.
yeah, Paul Millsap looks ripe for the taking doesn’t he?
Utah has Kanter and Favors on the front line, along with Al Jefferson and Millsap. Very few teams would want Al Jeff on talent alone, not to mention the albatross contract. Millsap’s contract is smaller and shorter, just like his body.
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Lol, he sure does. They have Okur too, though he’s likely gone. Wonder if they offered Jefferson and were willing to take something like Pietrus, Chilly, and Lopez, should we do it? I haven’t checked salaries on that. Interesting decision if they wanted to move him instead of Millsap.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 24, 2011 10:47 AM MST up reply actions
Al Jefferson
was too slow for the Suns I thought? I remember we were floating the idea of getting him when the Wolves were looking to move him but he ultimately wouldn’t be a good fit here. If we are going to make a trade with Utah I’d preferred Millsap, although J Smith and drum roll Derrick William would be on the top of my wish list
yeah no way on Al Jefferson. Utah figured out real quick he’s a seive on defense. Note that, before the Deron Williams trade, they were worse than prior seasons.
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Really?
I was under the impression that there would never be any NBA basketball again.
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Good chance NY drafted Shumpert to land Steve Nash at some pt. Shumpert does not fit into D’Antoni’s system. Defensive PG who can’t shoot
43 minutes ago
Ugh. When will it end?
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agreed that that was a dumb choice for them over guys like Singleon, Hamilton, Faried, Brooks, but if they think he will help get Nash, they are insane
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 23, 2011 11:41 PM MST up reply actions
I don't get that
Why is a defensive guard worse than a defensive wing? Especially when we are talking about a guy w off the charts athletic ability?
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by Seth Pollack on Jun 23, 2011 11:51 PM MST up reply actions
Because no one is as high on Shumpert as you, Seth. There were much higher-rated and safer prospects available. They took a big risk. It may pan out, but I am not seeing it. I thought for sure they would take Faried. Would have filled a MUCH bigger need that they have, in my opinion.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 24, 2011 10:49 AM MST up reply actions
I think it depends on if you're looking for him to run the point
You need your PG to be able to run the team offensively especially in an up and down style like the Knicks. If you’re planning on running him at SG for a while until he develops offensively, then that’s a different story.
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by brian13 on Jun 24, 2011 11:34 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
This
The player who runs your offense sort of has to be an effective offensive player.
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Oh, and a bit of good news.
Jeffrey Thompson is apparently leaving SBN, and not by his won choice.
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by Seth Pollack on Jun 23, 2011 11:49 PM MST up reply actions
Super Troll
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by Mike Lisboa on Jun 24, 2011 10:39 AM MST up reply actions
Major, major asshole.
Glad we chased him away from here. He used to drop in like a fart every once in awhile.
by East Bay Ray on Jun 24, 2011 3:27 PM MST up reply actions
I was looking at his profile
And found this
lol it’s funny reading our comments from the beginning….such hopes, such dreams!
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It's a safe pick, we didn't go for the highest talent upside.
There will have to be moves made at some point. We’re not going to make the playoff with the addition of Morris only. New York taking Shumpert has me a little worried, i can’t help but think there will be a deal with us (PHX) to get Nash or maybe Lopez.
If we gave the Knicks Lopez and we got back Shumpert and a future 1st rounder i could live with that. Let the mind games begin.
i won't change Lopez for Shumpert.
is changing nothing there. If we can get Fields too, maybe
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hmm, well , I don’t like Shumpert, but I would probably trade Lopez for him. Might even throw in a sack of chips. But for Nash? No way.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 24, 2011 10:50 AM MST up reply actions
??? What you mean? I thought they did great. They didn’t need Leonard unless they move Granger, and he is not an “Indiana” type of player anyway. He’s more corn rows than corn field, ya know. On the other hand, Collison was a HUGE disappointment last year, both to Indiana and to almost all my fantasy teams (damn him). They needed another guard. George Hill can play both spots. And he’s a high-character guy too. I am SHOCKED that the Spurs traded him. They should have gotten rid of Parker and RJ. But I don’t think anyone wanted them. Anyway, the Pacers did well.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 24, 2011 10:52 AM MST up reply actions
Haha!!!
I was going to make a nice crack about what “type” an Indiana player would be…But as I read further I see you already covered it better than I ever could have.
“More corn rows than corn field”…LOL Yeah…even though they’ve tried to shed that reputation, Leonard just doesn’t fit into Indiana’s prototypical cup of tea.
lol, yeah, agreed. That one just came to me. :)
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 25, 2011 10:59 AM MST up reply actions
Terrible pick imho
What is the point in this pick. I realize we are weak at the PF position but what does this fix? Is he going to start over Frye in his first season with no truly defined skills? No. Is he going to take Hak’s spot as backup PF this year? Maybe, but is he going to be any better than Hak on the average? Probably not, and that would lead to us paying Hak a ridiculous amount of money to not play.
To me all this pick does is confirm that the front office has no faith Lawal will ever be a decent PF for us, which is just an admission that we wasted our picks last year. What we have essentially done is create the same log jam at PF we had at SF.
At SF we essentially currently have 3 players under contract with the expectation we will sign Hill to play out these next couple years with Nash. That gives us 4 SF on our roster with Hill being as fringe as you can get to championship quality starter.
Now look at our PF slot. I am a huge Frye fan but realistically he is not a starter on a serious team, but neither are Hak, Lawal, or Morris. We have 4 role players now at PF. Two of them are on long, untradable contracts, and two are rookies with little to no value.
My point is why. WE HAVE NO TRUE SHOOTING GUARD! There were a few guys we could have taken to fill that spot and then worked for a PF through trades or free agency. Worst case scenario we don’t get anyone but how much better is our PF lineup now that Morris is a part of it. Do we really expect him to break out in the next 2 seasons? Have we just given up on Gani?? WHY???
by DJPitz on Jun 24, 2011 2:03 AM MST via mobile reply actions
There are 96 minutes a night
Between 4 and 5. If we play Frye 30 and Gortat 30, that leaves 36. That’s 18 apiece for Hak and Markieff.
An NBA team needs between 4 and 6 bigs, with 5 and 6 being deep bench players who end up playing only in garbage time or when rotation guys get injured, and are ideally guys that you hope to develop. We have Gorat, Frye, Markieff, Hak, Siler and Lawal. That is the required 6, with 5 and 6 upside guys we are taking a flyer on. Seems like we got that about right if you ask me.
To me all this pick does is confirm that the front office has no faith Lawal will ever be a decent PF for us, which is just an admission that we wasted our picks last year.
Second rounders rarely, if ever, make NBA rosters, let along contribute. Gani was drafted 46th overall. Here are all the 46th picks in NBA history. You have to go back to 1986 when we drafted a plucky young man named Jeff Hornacek to find a 46th pick who “made it”.
My point is why. WE HAVE NO TRUE SHOOTING GUARD!
And there is FA to come. Here is the list of FA 2s, and it shows a LOT of good quality in our price range (MLE and under). I’m going to call this pick solid, and wait and see what unfolds.
I still disagree on most points
Your statement about minutes works on paper, but it also is based on the assumption we drafted Morris to play back up center in the instance that we trade Lopez.
I was going off the belief that Morris was going to be played at PF. You can’t have Frye start at PF and play 2nd center, so at some point you have to play Morris at center. If we trade Lopez then your looking at a bench with Morris at center and Hak at PF if we don’t just decide to play Silo and switch between Morris and Hak at PF.
My main point was this. We already have the role playing PF market cornered and assuming we keep Lopez then what does Morris really bring to the table now? Could he be the great steal of the draft and become an all star? Sure but he could just as easily be a perennial bench player or fade into obscurity and now the Suns are left with no real SG. Yes there are options available on the market, but what if we get none. I feel like our options at PF are really we acquire a proven player or bust, we have enough stop gaps. However if we draft a real SG then we still have the option to get a veteran player to start and the rookies minutes are almost guaranteed.
All that being said you are probably right I do have to high of hopes for Gani as a second round pick.
by DJPitz on Jun 24, 2011 4:15 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Hak is role player
but he is not filling the role we need. Our starting PFs both lack true rebounding and defensive skills. If you have a starter that is great at defense and rebounding then you can use a Warrick for pure offense. Or vice versa with defense and rebounding off the bench. We have no traditional 4’s. Well, we do now. Markieff can bang down low and pop out if necessary
by Suns Fan For Life on Jun 24, 2011 9:04 AM MST up reply actions
Number one, Lopez will be gone. You can take that to the bank.
Number two, barring other trades that shake it up, Frye is absolutely going to start at PF but also play a lot of center. When he’s out with Gortat, he’s the 4. When Morris comes in, Frye will slide to the 5.
Third, with any luck, Hak will be gone. One of the most “available” players in the league.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 24, 2011 11:01 AM MST up reply actions
and positions are a bit of a misnomer
Of Frye and Morris, is Frye the 4 or 5? IF they are playing against Bass and Anderson from Orlando, who guards who? And does it matter? You need a 4/5 combo that can rebound, defend and score. Frye/Hak and Morris/Gortat – one of each works as a unit.
faith in gani?
You cant hitch your wagon to a guy with 2 min of nba game time coming off a torn acl.
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lol, steve. Agreed. It’s almost like having faith Dragic will be an all-star, but much worse. At least Dragic has shown flashes and hasn’t had serious injuries.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 24, 2011 11:02 AM MST up reply actions
Dont get me wrong
I like gani and im rooting for him,but to asseret you would alter or plan your draft strategy based on the fact he is on your roster is illogical to me.
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by stevedavis_ on Jun 24, 2011 12:05 PM MST up reply actions
Ok. Just a little reality
Gani Lawal was teh 46th pick of the draft. How much hope can you realy put on him? How many 46th picks even last a 2 years in the league let alone make it as even a role player. At 46 you take someone with some potential but you can’t plan on anything. Plus he has defined skills. Numbers wise he was one of the best rebounders in the NCAA last year, he plays defense and he can hit the 3. So he has a similar skill to Frye plus the rebounding and defense.
by Suns Fan For Life on Jun 24, 2011 9:00 AM MST up reply actions
Dude, I agree to an extent, but you are dramatizing WAY too much. First of all, Gani Lawal was a second round pick. You don’t expect a second round pick to make your team, and you can’t be listed as “wasting a pick” if he never plays for you. The guy is okay, but he is never going to get serious minutes on our team or any other team that is not a complete doormat. Anyone and everyone should have known this from the day he was drafted.
Other than that, Frye is a solid starter. Not great, but solid. And Morris is going to be a very,very good and efficient 7th or 8th man for us that could eventually start. He will do the dirty work and things that we need. Lou Amundson everyone loved. This guy will be much, much better. There was no one better available at 13.
Other than that, I don’t think we’re done dealing this offseason, but even if we are, we will challenge for the last two playoff spots and have a good chance to snag one.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 24, 2011 10:57 AM MST up reply actions
It was a safe pick in a lukewarm draft
There wasn’t much the Suns could screw up being as that this draft class domestically was weak. It wasn’t like they passed on a future franchise player.
I have to concur with others in liking the message the FO is making by at least taking seriously the need for better front court play. Morris is not going to be “the guy” like STAT was nor will he be the face of the franchise, or any for that matter. He’s going to be a role-player at best. But what the Morris pick has is predictability. What you see is what you get. He’s not going to score crucial buckets, but years down the line he’ll further polish his inside game and be a player you can build a contender with. And as a role player he has a set of skills that current Suns big men with the exception of Gortat and Frye have not shown.
He may not have a lot of upside, but we know he can and is ready to play in the NBA.
I want JRICH back!!! Can we start a JRICH RESCUE CAMPAIGN to bring that man home?
What will it take exactly? I know the new CBA will probably determine that but hey we need something to talk about these next few months, right??
Why would J-Rich come back and play for a team that is the definition of mediocrity when I'm sure there will be more than a few contenders knocking at his door?
Also, It’s probably going to take at least a 4 year deal to nab J-Rich and I’m sorry but I don’t want a 34 year old J-Rich on our squad.
There are some younger (mostly RFAs) out there that I’d rather pursue before J-Rich.
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To clarify, I know J-Rich is only 30 now I meant I don't want to ever want to see the 34 year old version of J-Rich on the Suns in the future.
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I'm cool with that personally
Shooters and tall players are the last to fade. A 34 year old JRich – provided his contract was reasonable, could still be a player if all he could do is knock down the three.
But ignoring that, your assumption is JRich gets a 4-5 year deal. At what point is he worth it? 4 years at the Full MLE, assuming it still exists, with the 4th year partially guaranteed (ala VC’s contract this year) would be a MASSIVE asset.
The devil is in the detail, and getting JRich for 2-3 years @ close to 5 mil would be fine.
For you guys who have been around as long as me
Alot of people give markieff a comp to rasheed,But he reminds me of terry mills alot more than sheed.Which is not a terrible thing.
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by Mike Lisboa on Jun 24, 2011 11:14 AM MST up reply actions
For those that wanted guys like Jason Thompson, Brandon Bass, and Darrell Arthur so much last year, I hope you are really happy with this pick. That is the kind of player Markieff will likely be.
And another thing I really like about him is that he has the versatility to play with every other big in the rotation. He has the range the play with Gortat and the rebounding and defense to play with Frye and Warrick (against small frontcourts).
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And he is position specific
We now have a true center and a true PF for, well, the first time in forever – since maybe Rambis and West. That is 20 years ago.
ah good one. For 30 games, that was a great, great combo. And the Suns nearly went undefeated during that time.
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Rambis was a 4
and came off the bench as a backup
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I like Markieff a bit more than those guys, actually.
He might not be as good, but he seems like a tougher inside presence with good floor leadership, which is what our bench needs right now. If he progresses into a starter, even better. But right now, his defense/rebounding will help shore up a lot of concerns with our bench unit.
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