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NBA Draft Grades: Markieff Morris Rates B- Amongst National Pundits

Well, at least we didn't get another C- from good ol' Chad Ford.

In fact, the funniest thing (to me) about the morning's grades is the collective surprise that the Suns actually made a move to fill every need in one player.

Markieff Morris is not a savior. In fact, he won't even be an All-Star.

But he will likely be, at worst, a 10-15 year rotation player like a Dale Davis. At best? Maybe Carlos Boozer. Or, as Draft Express puts it: Rasheed Wallace without the crazy.

I'll be thrilled with the worst case scenario there. The man rebounds, fights, plays tough, finshes at a high rate around the rim, and makes open jumpers. And he's a pure PF who can slide into C in a small lineup.

Drafting Morris is like eating oatmeal for breakfast. You know it's good for you and the right thing to do, but it doesn't have pizzazz of chocolate-covered sugar bombs.

Here's a really good breakdown on SBNationAZ, from our own Seth Pollack.

Phoenix Suns Pick Markieff Morris 13th In NBA Draft - SB Nation Arizona

Seth gives us a really good breakdown of Morris' offensive game, which isn't too shabby. Biggest takeaways: he likes the left side of the floor, finishes at a really high rate, and doesn't take bad shots.

Hit the link for the grades I found...

 

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NBA Draft Grades: Phoenix Suns Rate Solid 'B' - SB Nation Arizona
The Phoenix Suns new front office triumvirate of Lon Babby, Lance Blanks and John Treloar made the safe choice with the 13th overall pick in the 2011 NBA Draft. It was their first draft running the Suns and they absolutely couldn't afford a bust so you can understand why they went with a safe, if not exciting, choice who will likely be an NBA role player for many years but is almost certainly never going to develop All-Star potential.

Shumpert was the high-risk, high-reward pick and this was not the time for the Suns to be making that kind of choice.

2011 NBA Draft Team Grades - CBSSports.com

CBSSports gave the Suns a B- for Markieff. Not bad, considering the grader is long-time BEdger Ben Golliver. Score one of the Suns.

Phoenix Suns: Markieff Morris. Grade: B-. The Suns went against the grain in terms of which Morris twin was expected to go first, and Markieff brings a physical presence that is currently lacking. He's probably the better fit. The Suns addressed a position, but did they put themselves back on a positive trajectory? Seems like they're facing the same problems as a franchise that they were yesterday.

2011 NBA draft results: Draft grades - ESPN

The Suns decided they needed size and another defensive presence, and to get those qualities, they may have reached just a bit for Morris here.

A year ago, scouts would've laughed at the suggestion that Markieff would go ahead of twin brother Marcus. But after a stellar junior season, he leapt ahead on some draft boards.

Morris is a solid rebounder and defender and he's tough. He can also shoot the ball, a big bonus in Alvin Gentry's system.

Grade: B-

NBA Draft Grades 2011: Suns Confuse Markieff Morris' Family, Get Tougher - SBNation.com

Synopsis: Morris immediately becomes Phoenix's toughest power forward. I'm really going out on a ledge here, considering that Hakim Warrick and Channing Frye are the competition. But still. The Suns now have two brawlers in the frontcourt (Morris, Marcin Gortat), and the team's famously bad rebounding should improve, provided that Alvin Gentry gives Morris lots of early minutes.

Chris Singleton or Kawhi Leonard would have been better value picks and also met the defense/toughness need. But that's more a quibble than a demerit. A for effort, C for execution, which averages out to ...

Grade: B.

Markieff Morris among top 15 NBA draft sleepers - NBA - Yahoo! Sports

Before the draft, Yahoo Sports actually listed Markieff as a major sleeper.

A scout said Markieff's twin brother, Marcus, is expected to get drafted about five spots higher than his sibling. Markieff is projected to go as high as the middle of the first-round.

Unlike his brother, Markieff is focusing on playing power, not small forward.

"A lot of people are sleeping on me, but it is what it is," Markieff said.

An NBA scout's take: "One of the most undervalued guys in the draft. His brother gets all the headlines. He's a legitimate power forward cut from Dale Davis cloth who can defend, rebound and can make passes from the post. A winner."

 

There you have it. Let's talk.

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Thanks for the write up

Was looking for trade rumor on yahoo when I saw this. Dale Davis, Carlos Boozer and Rasheed Wallace are names I can live with

by Ben Tang on Jun 24, 2011 8:03 AM MST reply actions  

I like!

this might go against popular opinion right now, but i actually like this pick. Morris brings exactly what we need and he sounds like he can help the team this year. It also shows the FO is actually somewhat committed to giving Nash and Hill a better chance at a title albeit they are unlikely to win one. at least they are keeping their word!

by the_realVince on Jun 24, 2011 8:59 AM MST reply actions  

The Suns went a little against the grain

With perhaps better value picks available with Singleton and Leonard they went for need. They needed a defensive/rebounding 4 and got probably the best one available. Can’t really think of a 4 that went higher that fills these needs. Thompson plays D but is not a good rebounder yet. I think draft raters need to use the system that ESPN uses for the NFL draft. Average out Value and need.
Need A
Value b-/c
Overall: a high B. He will contribute right away and could actually start for us to allow Frye to come off of the bench. If he gets 16-20 minutes per game I can see him averaging 8-10 pts and 5-7 boards and shooting over 50%. He could eventually be an upgrade over Frye. He has the defense/rebounding and interior game that Frye lacks and he can hit the 3. Plus he should be able to take better advantage of mismatches on the pick and roll. It was sort of embarassing when Frye couldn’t take a guard in the post after the big switched to Nash. This could be a real plus.

by Suns Fan For Life on Jun 24, 2011 9:50 AM MST reply actions  

Agreed, SFFL, except he definitely won’t start over Frye his first year. Second or third, maybe. This makes Frye a bit expendable though in the right trade, something like Carter, Frye, Lopez and a pick for J. Smith and Hinrich? Could happen.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 24, 2011 10:30 AM MST up reply actions  

I like Frye a lot

and I actually have him on our untouchable list. For his skillset and price I don’t think we can get much better than him. But if we are vying for J Smith someone’s gotta go. As the FO said Gortat is off limit so that sounds like Frye could be moved. If we can get Smith I suppose Frye would be a better trading piece than Gortat

It would be a sad moment for me personally, since he actually improve his game a lot and did everything we asked him to and have actually improved every year since we got him

by Ben Tang on Jun 24, 2011 11:10 AM MST up reply actions  

I wouldn't part with Frye for Smith.

Smith might be good and all, but I can’t stand the guy’s attitude. I would even be hard pressed to part with Lopez for Smith, but I know for a fact I wouldn’t give up Frye for him. If our 4 is going to be jacking up threes, I want it to be from someone that actually takes almost always only good looks and knocks them down at a very good rate.

by Chris_Coffel on Jun 24, 2011 12:09 PM MST up reply actions  

And great point about Frye’s post-up ability. Morris should be able to do that better. We really need someone to score in the post. I hope he can do that.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 24, 2011 10:32 AM MST up reply actions  

I'd agree with a B for this draft pick.

I still don’t know a ton about Markieff Morris so I don’t feel like I can give an opinion with very much authority..
I’m not in love with the pick, nor am I totally against it. So, I would give it a B too if I was being asked.
Some things sounds promising, so hopefully he can come in and contribute and we’ll learn more about him.

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by Dragic_is_Magic on Jun 24, 2011 9:53 AM MST reply actions  

B- for the pick?

Or for the Suns’ draft day performance in general? I’m not sure how the Suns really could have exceeded expectations for draft day unless they had also managed to swing a trade. With a low lottery pick and 3 pretty glaring needs (back-up PG, shot-creating SG, and PF), the best they were going to do was serviceably plug one of these holes.

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by Mike Lisboa on Jun 24, 2011 10:04 AM MST reply actions  

CBS also gave us an F on a different portion of their site

No. 13: Suns select: Markieff Morris, PF, Kansas Grade
Analysis: Even if he came attached at the hip with his more highly regarded brother Marcus (who’s still available, by the way), the pick had to be Kawhi Leonard.
F

Meh, that’s ridiculously harsh. We filled a need, and it’s not like we picked someone who sucks.

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Jun 24, 2011 10:06 AM MST reply actions  

I’m not completely sold on Leonard. He seems like a dunce. I’m scared and shocked the Spurs grabbed him. He doesn’t seem like a Spurs guy. I guess they realize they need youth and athleticism. If he pans out way more than Markieff, we are definitely going to look like fools.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 24, 2011 10:33 AM MST up reply actions  

I had the same reaction

when I heard the Spurs got him and if he somehow manage to develop into yet another Suns’ nemesis a-la Bruce Bowen

by Ben Tang on Jun 24, 2011 11:02 AM MST up reply actions  

Babby interview this morning

claimed Leonard refused to come in and workout for Suns—his camp figured he would be off the board @13. Markieff was enthusiastic by contrast.

by ninecharacters on Jun 24, 2011 11:15 AM MST up reply actions  

plus, why do the Suns need another wing.

And in 2011-2012, does Leonard deserve minutes over Hill and Dudley at the 3?

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by Alex Laugan on Jun 24, 2011 11:29 AM MST up reply actions  

Absolutely not.

Plus, I’m hoping if Childress is still here, he’s part of the rotation. I think people are unfairly hard on him. He cant help that he wasn’t playing. When he did play, I think he brought a lot to this team. He can be very valuable. Does all the little things and is a very good slasher.

by Chris_Coffel on Jun 24, 2011 12:13 PM MST up reply actions  

we need to make childress

a big part of the rotation, if for no other reason than to up his trade stock.

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by Ceek on Jun 24, 2011 1:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Agreed.

He could be both productive for us and showcase his talents if we do really want to move him.

by Chris_Coffel on Jun 24, 2011 2:29 PM MST up reply actions  

lol

Nice. +1

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by N8lol on Jun 24, 2011 12:27 PM MST up reply actions  

agreed

+another 1

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by Ceek on Jun 24, 2011 1:21 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm glad you're here Chris.

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by Scott Howard on Jun 24, 2011 1:44 PM MST up reply actions  

he will not start

but he will get a good dose of minutes. unless he magically loose his rookieness and inexperience hes wont start over a 27 year old frye whose still improving. i expect Morris Gortat and Frye(man that sounds nice) to do something similar to the lakers and there 3 bigs. gortan and frye start then gortat comes out and Fryes goes to center or fryes comes out and morris goes to 4 or gortat comes out and Frye’s stays at 4 while morris bangs down low. hes a player that wont need to start to be effective. i have high hopes for this guy.
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by phxpurple on Jun 24, 2011 10:10 AM MST reply actions  

Agreed on the rotation. I hope we can get rid of Warrick, otherwise somebody gonna be very upset.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 24, 2011 10:33 AM MST up reply actions  

yes!

Warrick has disappointed me. if you cant make it in phx with nash as a big. you fail at life. hopefully a team with no pf depth will pick him up.

by phxpurple on Jun 24, 2011 11:03 AM MST up reply actions  

I have this weird premonition

that Warrick is going to get minutes at SF this year.

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by jc79 on Jun 26, 2011 7:43 PM MST up reply actions  

I like the pick.

I wasn’t sold on it at first, but the more I read about Markieff, the more I like him. Everyone says he’s the lesser brother, but based on his skill set, I think he could end up the better of the two. Plus he fills a need for us which is huge. If he could give us a solid 10-15 minutes a night, I’ll be happy. Now, just need to find us a go-to 2 guard.

by Chris_Coffel on Jun 24, 2011 10:30 AM MST reply actions  

Frye'd!

We should try to hit the trade button on Warrick, but if he doesnt leave we’ll need to move Frye to play center, and then trade Lopez so its either Lopez or Warrick , who would you pick ?

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by Lino Canaan on Jun 24, 2011 10:59 AM MST via mobile reply actions  

Throw both out there and see which nets us the better deal.

Or ship out both of them.

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by Omaha Sun on Jun 24, 2011 12:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Warrick

I would rather be patient on Lopez and let him showcase himself next season as he had. Then we could trade him to get best value.

by az_kevin on Jun 24, 2011 1:01 PM MST up reply actions  

I also like this pick.

I didn’t understand the hate that was evident on the board last night.
 I think he projects as a solid player off the bench who could eventually start.. With this draft as shallow as it was, the Suns were limited on the choices. Another 3 did not make sense, this team needed a 4 and got a decent one.

by Grockcubs on Jun 24, 2011 11:01 AM MST reply actions  

Didn't know about Leonard refusing a workout

That’s just strange and now it makes sense as to why the Suns didn’t pick him. Morris can shoot and has a gritty Philly-style attitude, which is something the Suns have lacked for awhile. Also looking forward to him matching up against Derrick Williams.

by oLLiE Boombayay on Jun 24, 2011 12:29 PM MST reply actions  

Grade

Suns getting a B on the specific pick given where they were is one thing but overall I give the FO a D because despite the glaring holes and the lack of depth, the FO did not do anything to move up or trade anyone to improve the team as yet.

While I say this, the FO also has to balance the idea of overpaying and locking the saalries like Sarver did stupidly last summer vs finding value in trades.

As for trading the following I would say as I have been saying, every player on the team except Nash (purely from loyalty as he could have signed with the Knicks or could have asked for more money and he did not) are trade bait if you get the right value, including Gortat. The thoughts on some of the most named ones are:
- Hakim Warrick – trade him for a draft pick or a SG. Teams that are looking for a backup PF are Clippers, GSW, etc
- Pietrus – trade him. value his expiring contract
- Childress – trade him only if we get his value. Don’t give up much to trade him as he will be back next year when he is in the rotation. He is a intelligent player with great work ethic and character. He did not complain or spoil the locker room environment as many would have when he was not getting PT, instead was cheering for the team. That is something of value.
Lopez – we have to be patient. Check into his medical or psychological issues and boost his confidence. Showcase him and then trade him. he should fetch the best value as it could be a extend and trade.
Vince Carter – leverage his expiring contract. The fact that they have extend the expiration is a good thing, if it allows them to trade him as the new CBA gets signed and teams are in a hurry to dump salary.
Brooks – Will we get him? Is he the right player? we really have not given him much time to know for sure. He does not have good attitude and that may be a reason to trade him should the SUNS get him (a very expensive rental for 2 months).

by az_kevin on Jun 24, 2011 12:59 PM MST reply actions  

Frye is pretty tough, people need to give him a break.

The guy was our most clutch player last year and he was banging with the best of them prior to his shoulder injury. He backs down from no one, not even KG. He said he was going to put on weight over the summer, so I don’t think he ain’t gana be no push over in the paint.

I would like to see Markieff hit 3 straight, must make free throws in an overtime game.

Mark was the better twin to pick because he fits our skill-set and he seems to be more mature and have a better attitude than his brother, but he still is considered the lesser brother. I hope he breaks that curse.

Although, he was the most realistic pick, he was not the Suns first choice as they were prepared to take Kemba if he fail and I still believe they would have taken Thompson and Jimmer if they were available and just 3 days before the draft there was a good chance they would be. That doesn’t mean I’m not satisfied with the pick and neither are the Suns. They did their homework and they believe Markief was a very good pick for them. He’s just not that shiny new toy like the guys above are. He’s not a sexy pick, but neither is his brother. As I said before, he’s like getting clothes for Christmas, but we need clothes.

As for Shumpert? He’d be the lump of coal. Which is why I give our FO a C+ for the draft because they tried to trade for him. They don’t do that and I would have given them a B.

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by Beavis 25 on Jun 24, 2011 1:16 PM MST reply actions   2 recs

I was poised to jump

out of my window if they had drafted shumpert at 13.

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by Ceek on Jun 24, 2011 1:27 PM MST up reply actions  

you can’t fool us, Beav. “a while” would be, like, 15 minutes. Cuz you’d have to go back to see who commented on your rant. ;)

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by Alex Laugan on Jun 24, 2011 1:37 PM MST up reply actions   3 recs

speaking of which

is there an easy way to see reply to my comments instead of scrolling up and down?

I’m still a noob so plz bear with me here…

by Ben Tang on Jun 24, 2011 2:24 PM MST up reply actions  

The Z key is your friend

Press C to tab to new comments, Shift-C to tab backwards, X to mark as read, and Shift-A to mark all read.
The best: Z will simultaneously mark and tab forward, and R will reply to the comment that has focus.

It took me far too long to figure that out.

by East Bay Ray on Jun 24, 2011 2:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Thank you sir

but somehow it is not working :( might have something to do with my computer setup…

At least the new comments are highlighted, making the search easier

by Ben Tang on Jun 24, 2011 2:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, I've been having problems for a couple months now.

90% of the time the z key won’t work unless someone else posts while I’m on the page. It’s very annoying.

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by Omaha Sun on Jun 24, 2011 2:54 PM MST up reply actions  

oh I thought it was just me. My work PC (shhhh!) never works when I hit Z, but my Mac at home works just fine. I think it has to do with videos, and how long the page takes to really, really load completely. Cuz then after a few minutes, the Z works on the PC too.

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by Alex Laugan on Jun 24, 2011 3:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Not for me.

It usually either works as soon as the page loads, or it doesn’t work at all. Or it works after somebody else posts like I said.

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by Omaha Sun on Jun 24, 2011 7:14 PM MST up reply actions  

My seems to work fine.

But as long as there’s yellow on the page, Z should work. At least for me it does.

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by NashMV3 on Jun 24, 2011 7:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Thank you.

You just activated my z.

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by Omaha Sun on Jun 24, 2011 7:14 PM MST up reply actions  

It works

on my laptop at home

hah

by Ben Tang on Jun 24, 2011 9:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Hmm. Works for me too. I’d die without the Z.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 24, 2011 10:48 PM MST up reply actions  

wow

i didn’t know that. This website has magic

by hear_seeker on Jun 26, 2011 8:11 PM MST up reply actions  

+1

People are waaaaaaay too hard on Frye I think. Just because he prefers to shoot the outside shot, doesn’t mean he’s soft. He plays hard and battles. He’s not a great defender, but his defense is underrated. He competes and does a solid job. Plus, after getting his big contract, he continued to work hard and get better, rather than just take the money and run. You gotta love that about him. And then he gets bonus points from me for being a local product.

by Chris_Coffel on Jun 24, 2011 2:37 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Frye Plays better

with a big down low that can bang
Rolo- no bang
Morris- Bang
Gortat- Polish Bang
thats why he improved in the second half of the season. hes not a dirty work player hes a scorer, but he needs a more versatile scoring game to make up for the flaws if hes going to break even

by phxpurple on Jun 24, 2011 4:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Bang up job!

Bismack Biyombo or Bust!!!

by jc79 on Jun 26, 2011 7:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Markieff Morris

2012 NBA ROY

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by Ceek on Jun 24, 2011 1:22 PM MST reply actions  

We did the right thing, that's what I am taking from this

We took a safe player and didn’t do anything too crazy given the lockout situation, we played it safe and I’m more than fine with that. I would be a lot more upset today if we’d have drafted Shumpert.

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by Ceek on Jun 24, 2011 1:24 PM MST reply actions  

Ok.

I’m done being mad over no Leonard…
Shooting guard who can get his own shot now, please.

by Spacemodulator on Jun 24, 2011 3:08 PM MST reply actions  

what how tall is markeiff morris?

NBA draft vid on the site says 6’7 3/4
web source on here said 6’10
another source said 6’ 8
?

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by phxpurple on Jun 24, 2011 7:03 PM MST reply actions  

6'9.25" and 240 lbs according to DX.

Solid enough PF size.

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by Omaha Sun on Jun 24, 2011 7:21 PM MST up reply actions  

ah alrighty

was scared we had another tweener for a sec

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by phxpurple on Jun 24, 2011 7:25 PM MST up reply actions  

definitely not a tweener. He’s a real PF – could even play some C in a small lineup.

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by Alex Laugan on Jun 24, 2011 9:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Agreed. He is the most true, polished, well-rounded PF in this draft. Two or three others have higher ceilings, but this boy gonna be all right.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 24, 2011 10:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Very few teams have two true centers

Most have at best one, and the backups are 4/5 combos. And even when they do, the second center can rarely punish you for going small (like Chandler Haywood in Dallas).

Between Frye and Markieff, we’ll have a pretty solid backup 5 against most teams, even if we don’t play Lopez or Siler.

by MMotherwell on Jun 24, 2011 11:29 PM MST up reply actions  

Chandler SLASH Haywood

As i that combo won’t punish you.

by MMotherwell on Jun 24, 2011 11:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Who's SLASH?

And is he available as a free agent? That guy sound crazy tough!

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by jc79 on Jun 26, 2011 7:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Height is always listed twice...

Without shoes and with.

Without shoes is usually 1.5" shorter than with. So a 6’10" guy is usually between 6’8 and 6’9. Height is only one part of being a tweener, as huys like Hak (right height, too light) and a guy like Matt Bonner (right height and weight, wrong skillset) show.

by MMotherwell on Jun 24, 2011 11:26 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Great Pick.

How could it be bad. In a horrible draft of role players, why not get the most polished, nba ready PF we had available, it makes sense. There was not 1 player at the 13th, perhaps even draft that would have made us better than what Markieff makes us now, and honestly if Mark can start and let Channing come of the bench, then perhaps we are better simply for that. And why cant he start? What are we hiding him from? Defending titles are we? Trying to maintain our record are we? Throw the kid in the deep end, sink or swim style. I bet he swims.

As far as Channing goes, no reason he cant come back better than last year. And if not, he’s still pretty effective. He fits this system perfectly, and because a Nash replacement does not exist on this planet, the system dies with the exit of Nash. So keep Channing at all costs, because he is one of the most important cogs in it. After Nash’s exit, who knows, but until then, you will rue the day you trade Channing Frye.

by spinifecs on Jun 25, 2011 1:13 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

One of the biggest reasons is Channing Frye will take it as a big slap across his grille if he is still on the team. You don’t want to lose your spot to a rookie. Markieff will be just fine playing 12-20 mins a game as a backup. You can even play him in short spurts with the starters. I do believe he will be a starter in this league at some point or a very, very good sixth/seventh man.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 25, 2011 11:03 AM MST up reply actions  

Im not sure Channing is that type of guy. Seems to be a team first player. We all know he is just as effective off the bench as he is a starter, but all im saying is that if Gentry thought it makes the team better to have the Ice Cold Mo Fo-ness come off the pine, then im sure Markieff could hold his own even now. Id much rather see him flounder around than any other PF on our current roster. That is of course if he isnt the biggest bust in the draft, that would be very disapointing, but considering the Suns picked him, in an actual draft, perhaps wouldnt be all that surprising lol.

by spinifecs on Jun 25, 2011 7:09 PM MST up reply actions  

I hear ya, but I think Frye liked his starting gig, and anybody would see a rookie starting over you as a huge slap in the face.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 26, 2011 11:27 AM MST up reply actions  

I agree, depends on the rookie tho lol. I dont think anyone thinks Morris is that kinda rookie, was there even any of those rookies in this draft lol, so I do think Channing more than definitely deserves to start. But i have good faith that Channing is such a team first guy, high character guy, that he embraces whatever coach asks of him without question, so I doubt 6th man again would be a problem with him.

Having said all this, if the roster stays as is then you cant afford to take him outa the starting lineup. Once they shut down the Nash/Hammer PnR, who else puts the ball in the hoop? I think we all know thats where our real problem lye’s.

by spinifecs on Jun 26, 2011 11:34 PM MST up reply actions  

You can even play him in short spurts with the starters

did your username used to be Eagle Sun?

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by Alex Laugan on Jun 25, 2011 10:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Me? This has always been my name, and I am quite offended by being compared to that dude.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 26, 2011 11:27 AM MST up reply actions  

Sure, we laugh at Eagle Sun now

But just wait ‘til Garret Siler becomes the next Andrew Bynum. Who’ll be laughing then?

by East Bay Ray on Jun 26, 2011 11:43 AM MST up reply actions  

Hahahhahhahahhah. Good one.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 26, 2011 1:14 PM MST up reply actions  

lol just having fun. Eagle Sun used to love the phrase ‘short spurts’ in describing how this combo and that combo could work…

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by Alex Laugan on Jun 26, 2011 8:53 PM MST up reply actions  

It got a chuckle out of me Alex.

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by Omaha Sun on Jun 26, 2011 10:58 PM MST up reply actions  

lol where the heck is that dude?

I’d love more Siler-Bynum comparisons.

Grant Hill: where making MVPs look like wannabes happens.

by NashMV3 on Jun 27, 2011 11:42 AM MST up reply actions  

Steven Hill = Dirk Nowitzki was my favorite,

considering Hill retired last year. At least Garrett still has an NBA roster spot.

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by Omaha Sun on Jun 27, 2011 2:15 PM MST up reply actions  

I thought for sure

They would draft shumpert or do something else stupid to send us bright siders into an eclipse,I’m satisfied with the pick

Lover,Poet,Suns fan,All around damn good guy.

by stevedavis_ on Jun 25, 2011 9:02 AM MST via mobile reply actions  

Haha. Yes. Now, THAT would have pissed me off. Let the Knicks fans boo that one. :)

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jun 25, 2011 11:04 AM MST up reply actions  

That is one sharp suit he's wearing

he’s got Amare style skills

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by jc79 on Jun 27, 2011 3:57 PM MST reply actions  

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