Markieff Morris For NBA Rookie Of The Year?
by Seth Pollack on Jul 11, 2011 3:16 PM MST
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PrintThe NBA Lockout is all the rage but it's never too soon for the 2011 NBA Rookie Class to get over-hyped. Regardless of how bad this class is considered, one of them will win Rookie of the Year for the 2011-12 NBA season (assuming there is a season). Favorites to win are the obvious top picks like Kyrie Irving and Derrick Williams but according to ESPN's Kevin Pelton, Markieff Morris should at least be considered a dark horse.
The thinking from Pelton is that Markieff (aka Keef) is more NBA ready and will be an efficient scorer. It's worth noting that Pelton is an NBA stat geek so measuring value based on efficiency comes naturally to him. The rest of the basketball world, however, will stick to flashy points and rebounding totals which makes Morris an unlikely pick (Pelton did list him as a dark horse for a reason).
Las Vegas odds makers are skeptical as well but at least Markieff is on the list of possible Rookie of the Year possibilities. His odds are 18/1 compared to 15/1 for Marcus Morris and 9/2 for the favorite, Derrick Williams.
If you believe in Markieff, you at least can put your money where your mouth is.
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Markieff will win ROY, MVP, All-Star MVP, and Finals MVP.
If anyone think’s im serious then you are not the brightest person. Sorry.
I rock so get used to it.
Thanks.
i isn’t noen for my smrts
I rock so get used to it.
by Colton Dodson on Jul 11, 2011 6:21 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I think you could have just stuck with the title
And if people didn’t get you were joking then they have the problem.
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by Scott Howard on Jul 11, 2011 10:27 PM MST up reply actions
Totally agree
And with that said.. I’m packing my bags to drive overnight to Vegas right now so that I can get these 18/1 odds before they go up.
Re-sign BAMF.
You mean he was joking?
Fuck.
A football game is basically 22 men desperately needing rest being watched by 22,000 desperately needing exercise.
I figured if I didn't put that people wouldve actually thought i meant that
cuz sarcasm is hard to detect over the internet
I rock so get used to it.
by Colton Dodson on Jul 12, 2011 2:49 PM MST up reply actions
With the lockout
we can give him the honorary RoY award now. Why not?
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
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That would be nice
if Gentry can find enough playing time for him and put him in the right position to succeed. But I’ll withhold my expectation since I think that’s partially responsible for what happend to Dragic and Lopez, at least until he wins the ROY (or close to it)
It is all about the can make the biggest buzz
Markieff will be solid at worst, that´s my only wish.
Do not let Steve Nash and Grant Hill go away, please.
Otherwhise im not buying any tickets from you Saver.
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"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH
Well...
History shows we hardly ever give a lot of minutes to our rookies, but right now we don’t have a lot of options at the PF spot, so I guess it is plausible that he could see more minutes than our rookies historically have gotten. This also is depending on if we make any trades or signings to acquire a PF.
I’m torn whether it would be a good thing if we were giving a good chunk of minutes to a 13th pick in the draft.
We have plenty pf options at PF.
Frye, Warrick, Lawal, and Morris. Your point about the availability of minutes in this group still stands, however.
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I forgot about Lawal….
Warrick, not too big of a fan. Nice dunks, but I hope the guy is working on every other aspect of his game this off season.
His jump shots improved over the season
Remember in the beginning he was always driving to the basket and getting rejected?
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Oh totally
as soon as he releases the ball I’d be like NOOOOOOOOO and then he would make it in and I would just exhale out haha
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The scouting report on him before the trade was that he culd dunk and hit mid-range shots.
It just took him a while to find his stroke again (although fading away on half of his shots probably didn’t help).
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We do when they are good
I can;t think of a single rookie we didn’t play that deserved to, can you?
by MMotherwell on Jul 12, 2011 12:01 AM MST up reply actions
Wow
We really out of things to talk about…
There's so much Rosterbation on this site, it's starting to chafe.
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by Wil Cantrell on Jul 11, 2011 6:40 PM MST up reply actions 6 recs
Forget your info Zentrified?
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Did he get banned?
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
If he did it would be kind of dumb to tell us it was him.
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Brian32 told us and sunsfanfromchicago sorta told us.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
Lol, I remember the huge debate
regarding whether or not sunsfanfromchitown was sunsfanfromchicago. I assumed they’re the same person, but considering sunsfanfromchitown is behaving in a more courteous manner, I don’t really care anymore.
A football game is basically 22 men desperately needing rest being watched by 22,000 desperately needing exercise.
I guess he learned from his mistakes.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
They are idiots.
The Chicago kid especially.
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I remember he made a fanpost about a controversial subject and it got deleted.
Then he disappeared.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
Oh, he did?
I must have missed that.
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It was only up for like an hour or 2, no comments.
Then it was deleted.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
Although highly doubtful, it would be amazing if he did manage to win it. He probably won't, but
he has the talent to wrangle the starting forward spot from Channing. He is defensive-minded and a good player down low. He led his team in rebounds and was second in points, and if there is a next season, he will be playing alongside Nash.
That could happen, but I seriously doubt he will leapfrog Frye this season. And there’s simply no way he will play enough to be ROY. Fifteen minutes a game will be the max unless major injuries.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jul 11, 2011 9:43 PM MST up reply actions
HE won;t score enough anyway
Every ROY is a scorer.
by MMotherwell on Jul 12, 2011 12:02 AM MST up reply actions
hey I’d just be thrilled if he made the Rookie all-star game or all-rookie team. ROY is a bit much considering, as you said, the requirement to score big which also (almost always) requires your team to suck or you wouldn’t as a rookie be getting all the scoring chances.
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I'd be happy for him to be productive
A better rebounding, more long 2 less threes Frye would be a great outcome.
but 3s are more valuable than 2s. Morris hits 3s as well.
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by Alex Laugan on Jul 15, 2011 12:20 PM MST up reply actions
Vegas has Williams as the favorite? Hmm… I personally have Irving. CLE will make room for Irving no matter what, and he doesn’t exactly have a player of Love’s caliber to steal opportunities from him. Plus he doesn’t have to try to play a different position.
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Williams will probably score more than Irving. I don’t see Irving tearing it up, esp first year. I am just not sold. I’d bet on Williams too.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jul 12, 2011 8:22 PM MST up reply actions
I'm more sold on Irving than Williams.
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Baron Davis is still gonna demand some minutes,
so Irving’s stats might take a hit from that.
Eh, CLE is not going to let Baron Davis get in Irving’s way. I expect them to do all they can to send Davis elsewehere. But even if he sticks around I still see Irving getting plenty of minutes. He showed at Duke that he was willing and able to play both on and off the ball, and Davis has also played alongside Monta Ellis so he’s used to playing next to a diminutive backckourt mate. Considering Anthony Parker is their SG, I expect to see the 2 PGs play with each other quite a bit.
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With Nash (hopefully) being on the same team as him in his rookie year, the chances of him winning ROY will go up.
I’m getting more excited about my name twin now.
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by keiththejourno on Jul 12, 2011 12:46 AM MST reply actions
He will be on an all-rookie team at best
Thats being optimistic too. 15 mpg isn’t going to get you much in terms of award winning stats, no matter how efficient. I would be happy if he was just like Gary Neal was for the Spurs this year, just a solid contributor week in week out and plays like a vet. keeping in mind I think he played overseas before he played NBA
Carter having a glazed-eyes contest with Boris Diaw. Carter's winning, but Diaw might respond by eating his eyes.
I'm a card carrying member of the "Warrick kinda sucks" club
And I’m still not convinced Markieff will beat Warrick out for the primary backup PF position this season, and it’s very doubtful he will right away. Having no summer league and only a short camp and preseason is gonna make it tough on Keef. I’m not sure he’ll be ready or get enough minutes to be a significant contributor this season.
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by East Bay Ray on Jul 12, 2011 8:45 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
Would a couple of hard slam dunks change your mind?
Oh, they wouldn’t? Well I tried.
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by Scott Howard on Jul 12, 2011 12:59 PM MST up reply actions
haha
Thats basically all he is good for. I would love to see a stat with the games he dropped a bunch of points, and of those games, how many we won.
When Warrick scores 15 or more we're 11-5
But if you look at games where he played over 20 minutes we’re probably .500.
Achievement is its own reward, pride obscures it.
by hcblankscreen on Jul 12, 2011 3:21 PM MST up reply actions
Exactly.
We know he can score. It’s just a matter of how often he does so, and even more importantly how often he outscores the guy he’s defending.
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Warrick's on-court/off-court numbers were the worst on the team.
Worse than Dowdell and Brooks, worse than Siler. And Brooks and Dowdell being on the floor generally meant Nash was off, so that’s bound to push a guy’s on-court/off-court way down (like Dragic’s horrid numbers, which were worse than Warrick before Dragic was traded).
http://www.82games.com/1011/1011PHO.HTM
This stat is hardly a be-all/end-all, especially when looked at in a small sample size like a game or two. But when a team is consistently better with one player on the bench than when he plays, it’s probably safe to assume that the player sucks.
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by East Bay Ray on Jul 12, 2011 2:55 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, he sucks.
I don’t need to see stats that prove it. The guy had a great opportunity and couldn’t capitalize on it. Maybe he did all he could? Well, I’ll give him credit for at least trying, but all that says is that he’s just not very talented.
Don't trade Dudley!
He has been the same player his entire career
I don’t know why anyone expected anything more.
Achievement is its own reward, pride obscures it.
by hcblankscreen on Jul 12, 2011 6:22 PM MST up reply actions
Stoudermire won as PF when he is a dark horse;-)
well…Our own Stoudermire used to won rookie of the year as PF when he was a darkhorse to clear favourite Yao Ming:)
So why can’t Markieff win it? It is the person himself who can make his own dream or story happen. if Markieff has heart enough to fight for it, he can write his own legacy:)
Ya never know. That’s why they play the games. Oh wait. They aren’t playing any games. Nevermind. He has no chance because there won’t be a season!
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jul 12, 2011 8:24 PM MST up reply actions
he would finish tied for 1st amongst all rookies then. Cool!
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by Alex Laugan on Jul 15, 2011 12:23 PM MST up reply actions
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