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Marcin Gortat on Robin Lopez

The translation I got from a RealGM poster is this:
Quite interesting what Marcin said about Robin Lopez: "our relations with Robin Lopez were not good from the beginning. First day I came to Phoenix I've asked RoLo where do we start training - at gym or video room? And he said "I don't know I haven't found out yet", Gortat went to gym and after two minutes Robin Lopez went to video room. Coach came to the gym and said- "Where are You, you're five minutes late" Gortat asked " I didn't know where do we start, I've asked Robin and he didn't know either, he didn't tell me, coach said" how he didn't tell you- everybody knew" And Gortat said- aha I know where are we (himself and Rolo). Gortat promised himself that Rolo won't even catch the ball during training and revealed he was waiting more for a training than for a game (to try Rolo). At the and of a day he said that Rolo didn't take his 2 years big chance (of starting five) and he came and took this opportunity (which he was dreaming about behind Dwight)
Can anybody else confirm this translation? And if it's accurate....what do you guys think?

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Yes that translation is correct

He seems really pissed at Lopez that Lopez had the chance to start in PHX and yet he didn’t try.

I have mixed feelings about this. Ofcourse one can critize the work ethic of a team mate, but these things should stay indoors.

This is the 100th time Gortat has said something stupid on camera. He should be aware that people will record this and post it online.

Now he has destroyed the relationship with a team mate. How are they ever supossed to play together after the things he said?

Sad, sad Marcin, I thought you were a better person.

Alea iacta est!

by PolishHammer on Jul 22, 2011 6:38 PM MST reply actions  

that may be true, but I can’t fault him for “asserting his dominance” at that point in time. After 4 years in Howard’s shadow, Robin Lopez had to look like a 90-pound weakling by comparison. And that 90-pound weakling was still starting ahead of Gortat.

He sees himself as the underdog fighting for every scrap he can get. Once he settles in and realizes he’s a leader, and recognized as someone who needs to have positive influence on the team, hopefully he will mature. Certainly, a true leader doesn’t make those comments.

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by Alex Laugan on Jul 23, 2011 6:58 AM MST up reply actions  

I don't think it's that bad.

I mean, Lopez probably knows very well what Marcin’s attitude towards him is, it’s not like Gortat’s revealing some hidden secret. Plus, it’s hard to talk about proper and improper work ethic without giving specific examples, and I do think that Gortat’s biggest beef with Lopez is the latter’s work ethic (or lack thereof).

Also, I think that Gortat might have some info from the owners that Lopez is getting traded as soon as the trade window opens, so in this respect, he might be speaking about a guy that’s as good as gone.

And lastly, if it takes a public bashing to light a fire under Lopez, I’m all for it. I mean, it seems the Suns have tried everything else.

by ilintar on Jul 23, 2011 2:18 PM MST up reply actions  

if it takes a public bashing to light a fire under Lopez, I’m all for it. I mean, it seems the Suns have tried everything else.

hard to argue with that

"Maybe I’m old school," Nash said, "but I signed a contract to play here and I want to honor it. I feel like I owe it to my teammates and the city and everybody to keep battling until they tell me it’s time to go." STEVE (God of Basketball) NASH

by 2NASHTY on Jul 23, 2011 4:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Good points. He probably is gone.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jul 23, 2011 8:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Now I want to see some video of Robin laying down some back talk smack talk in Spanish

All I can say is Gort’s lucky he’s not an arcadia door.

And why the hell is he telling this to a bunch of polish kindergarteners who obviously don’t give a shit?

I'm Michael Beasley's imaginary friend.

by suns68 on Jul 22, 2011 10:50 PM MST reply actions  

Because someone asked him the question.

The exact question was “how have your relations with Robin Lopez changed?”.

by ilintar on Jul 23, 2011 2:21 PM MST up reply actions  

the exact question was

"Have you relations with Lopez change after you had bitten him out?"

sry for double post but here you can’t delete your post

Greetings from Poland, chn.

by chn on Jul 23, 2011 3:08 PM MST up reply actions  

or this:

“Have your relations with Lopez changed after you had beaten him out?”

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jul 23, 2011 8:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Damn, now they're biting!

Things have really deteriorated. =-)

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by jc79 on Jul 28, 2011 1:51 PM MST up reply actions  

lol, thought the same things.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jul 23, 2011 8:29 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't think

Robin speaks Spanish…FWIW

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by Seth Pollack on Jul 24, 2011 12:37 PM MST up reply actions  

But it's such a colorful language for cursing someone out

Especially the dialect in Central America, which is where Lopez’s parents hail from.
I’m sure they could feed him some lines. And if they can’t, I’d volunteer to help him out.

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by suns68 on Jul 24, 2011 6:34 PM MST up reply actions  

The transtaltion is fairly accurate

and I agree with othesr. He shouldn’t make personal issues with Robin public. It would never do any good for him and especially for the team.

Greetings from Poland, chn.

by chn on Jul 23, 2011 2:34 AM MST reply actions  

the exact question was

 “Have you relations with Lopez change after you had bitten him out?”

Greetings from Poland, chn.

by chn on Jul 23, 2011 3:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Completely agree

I’m fine with him telling the story if that’s how it went down, but to put Robin’s work ethic and game on blast, and to say he “took” Robin’s starting spot is pretty shitty. Even if he hates Robin they’re still teammates, and there’s nothing about these comments that benefit the team.

Achievement is its own reward, pride obscures it.

by hcblankscreen on Jul 24, 2011 2:29 AM MST up reply actions  

rolo:

1. twin brother of brook
2. polish hammer-hater

J.UST E.NJOY T.HIS S.HIT
This is Forty08.
Two goin' at once[simultaneous]
Trouble me

by big_p.a.w.z. on Jul 23, 2011 7:27 AM MST reply actions  

i'm not surprised

and i 100% agree. i love it when gortat speaks his mind because it seams like only then do the suns (players and staff) actually do something. defense and rebounding being the main example. i hope gortat bashs Babby next. GORTAT for HC!

by miketheboss on Jul 23, 2011 4:48 PM MST reply actions  

Marcin Gortat is like the new Raja Bell of the lockerroom, only his words manage to find a way to the media.

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by Beavis 25 on Jul 23, 2011 5:37 PM MST reply actions  

I think this is on Robin though

Sure, marcin didn’t have to open his mouth. But had Robin been a bit more welcoming rather than greeting Marcin with hostilitiy and trying to make him look like an idiot to the new coach, this wouldn’t even be a story at all

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by NashtySUNS on Jul 23, 2011 7:39 PM MST reply actions  

For sure. Unless he really didn’t know, in which case, he’s like the dumbest guy ever and even worse than we thought.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jul 23, 2011 8:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Agreed

That would make me worry about his bball iq

Carter having a glazed-eyes contest with Boris Diaw. Carter's winning, but Diaw might respond by eating his eyes.

by NashtySUNS on Jul 23, 2011 11:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Look at it this way

- We know Gortat likes to talk and he’s very opinionated, every time he opens his mouth he’s taking an extreme position. He shit on NYC and the Heat as a 15 minute backup and called out the Suns two weeks after he got here.

- We know Robin’s a pretty soft-spoken dude who’d rather smash a glass door than verbalize his frustrations.

From the way Gortat tells the story, this situation could have just been Robin being socially awkward rather than a deliberate punking. Even if it was deliberate, Gortat (or the translation) makes it sound like Robin shit in his locker. If this same scenario went down my first day on the job I’d think nothing of it, if anything I’d feel responsible for not finding out where the meeting was from a superior.

Achievement is its own reward, pride obscures it.

by hcblankscreen on Jul 24, 2011 2:18 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah good point

I didn’t think of it that way. But also you would like to think if you are arriving at a new team they would be welcoming and try to help you out and keep an eye out for you. Imagine if on your first day a workmate saves your ass rather than throwing you under a bus. Thats what creates good chemistry

Carter having a glazed-eyes contest with Boris Diaw. Carter's winning, but Diaw might respond by eating his eyes.

by NashtySUNS on Jul 24, 2011 2:32 AM MST up reply actions  

I have rewatched it and the last part of the translation is not 100% accurate

Gortat says: "This guy (Lopez) had such a big chance, such a big opportunity, to play in the best league. When I was Orlando, playing behind Dwight, I was praying to get a chance to play and he (Lopez) has had this chance for 2 years and he didn’t take.

So I thought, when you don’t want it, there will be 50 persons behind you, waiting to take this chance, and then I came by and I took. Sorry, that’s business, that’s life."

So I doubt it was about the incident on the first day, it was more about the first few months and they Robin showed no effort whatsover, that made Gortat really more. Therefore I have some more respect for Gortat’s words, still not smart to say it, while your are still on the same team.

Put in your biography after a few years lol, but not now. I understand his frustration though.

Alea iacta est!

by PolishHammer on Jul 24, 2011 4:41 AM MST reply actions  

I'm going to assume that Lopez is as good as gone, and Gortat knows that.

I agree with you and others that nothing good comes out of Gortat saying this kind of thing publicly, but Marcin says the damnedest things and I think we’re just going to have to accept the bad with the good regarding his lack of a verbal filter. Come to think of it, it’s similar to our accepting of your lack of a filter, PolishHammer. Your handle is appropriate indeed.

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by East Bay Ray on Jul 24, 2011 8:52 AM MST up reply actions  

whether Lopez is gone or not, Gortat is establishing his dominance.

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by Alex Laugan on Jul 24, 2011 11:41 AM MST up reply actions  

Sigh, just awake

*they Robin showed no effort whatsover, that made Gortat really more = should be = then Robin showed no effort whatsever, that made Gortat really dislike him just more

Alea iacta est!

by PolishHammer on Jul 24, 2011 4:43 AM MST reply actions  

Yeah, Gortat is brutally honest.

From the first day Gortat arrived in Phoenix, Gortat was very clear about his feelings about Lopez and his desire to take Robin’s place. I remember his first interview upon arriving when asked how he found out about the trade and what his feelings were. Gortat (and I’m paraphrasing) said something to the effect of how he was excited to come to Phoenix and that he hoped Lopez was part of the trade to go to Orlando.

Gortat joined this team with every intention of taking the starting job away from Robin, and his hard work and efficiency helped him do it very quickly. Even though he wasn’t technically named as the starter until much later in the season, Gortat was already getting the bulk of the minutes at the 5 after only a couple weeks.

by 7footer on Jul 24, 2011 10:48 AM MST reply actions  

wow. Robin really responded strong. Go strong or go home, right?

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by Alex Laugan on Jul 24, 2011 2:30 PM MST up reply actions  

You’re being sarcastic; right?

The only response I see in the article is

In an email response to this story, Robin Lopez said they usually don’t know if practice is going to start on the court or the video room, “so there’s a good chance I just didn’t know when he asked me.”

That’s not strong. You can look at that as good or bad.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jul 24, 2011 2:51 PM MST up reply actions  

I think he

Alex was being sarcastic….obviously, Robin’s not going to say much

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by Seth Pollack on Jul 24, 2011 3:05 PM MST up reply actions  

yes I was being sarcastic.

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by Alex Laugan on Jul 24, 2011 4:17 PM MST up reply actions  

I know

I was being sarcastic about your sarcasm

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by Seth Pollack on Jul 24, 2011 5:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Ah. Sarcasm often doesn’t translate well over the Internet.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jul 24, 2011 7:04 PM MST up reply actions  

You need a new sarcasm meter.

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by NashMV3 on Jul 27, 2011 5:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Some would say he should stand up for himself and show a lot more fire on the court and off. In the absence of that, they would gladly say good riddance to him.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jul 24, 2011 7:03 PM MST up reply actions  

well there you go

Maybe all an accident. I guess you can’t really know until you see it firsthand

Carter having a glazed-eyes contest with Boris Diaw. Carter's winning, but Diaw might respond by eating his eyes.

by NashtySUNS on Jul 24, 2011 2:39 PM MST up reply actions  

LOL!!!

Did you see the size of his racket?!?!

by 7footer on Jul 24, 2011 5:21 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

By the way...

that was pertaining to Gortat in the tennis video at the bottom of Seth’s post. I wasn’t very clear in my original response.

by 7footer on Jul 24, 2011 5:26 PM MST up reply actions  

It has to be, with balls that big.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jul 24, 2011 7:02 PM MST up reply actions  

I dont believe marcin

Meant any malice with his comments,It just comes out without him thinking of the conseqeuences.If robin had any pride things like this would light a fire under his ass but if history is any lesson it wont.

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by stevedavis_ on Jul 25, 2011 9:13 AM MST reply actions  

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