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Congratulations Suns Fans! You Just Survived The Worst Of The Lockout + Link Dump (Boylan, Morris, Gortat, Siler)

Thanks to the lockout, we don't have to spend 2 months arguing over Hedo Turkoglu!  (Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images)

In most summers, nothing happens for the Phoenix Suns after the first week or so of free agency until training camp starts. We might get 3-4 more pieces of Suns news (low-end free agents, coaching staff) over a 2.5 month span, but that's in a GOOD summer.

So, you've survived the worst of the lockout, Suns fans! In fact, the rest of the offseason should be a piece of cake.

Usually, we spend the next two months poring over sports stories, googling 'suns' news, fretting about other teams' better signings, arguing about the "fit" of new player X, lamenting the loss of a bench-warmer or two, and rolling eyes at fellow BSotSers' horribly-conceived trades (while our own ideas are genius!).

Basically, two months of high frustration.

Yet this summer is BETTER than that. Thanks to the lack of a CBA, we can't even propose trades with any comfort level. Thanks to the iffy season, we're not even debating keeping/trading Steve Nash ad naseum.

This summer you can relax and enjoy the time off. Get two months of good sleep. Am I the only one who would get up in the middle of the night to check Suns news for any late-breaking rumors or signings. Heck no I'm not. Cuz the one time I missed a midnight signing, there were 600 comments by 7am!

And guess what? There's still the same amount of Suns' related "news" as any other summer after the first week of free agency.

Star-divide

 

Take a look

BUCKS BEAT: Boylan sticking around

Looks like the Suns' top choice for their defensive coordinator job was Jim Boylan. Milwaukee is reporting he turned down the Suns offer to take a one-year extension with the Bucks. Oh well. It's not like I knew anything about Boylan.

 

Jason Kidd is finally a champion thanks to Mark Cuban

More Sarver piling-on. He deserves it. While I'm hopeful the new CBA will help the Suns compete more with the big-market teams (Dallas is 4th and Cuban makes gobs of profit on the Mavs every year), Sarver doesn't help himself with the local fans at all. Gotta give him credit for a few things, however small: (a) the Suns refund policy, (b) authorizing expansion of the coaching staff, (c) fighting for what he believes in, as a key owner in the labor deal, (d) keeping complete front office intact during lockout.

 

Armen Gilliam is the latest Phoenix Suns power forward to meet with misfortune

Wow, I had not connected those dots. Four, count em: 4, former Suns power forwards have met with extreme misfortunate in the past year. Sad.

 

Marcin Gortat's Phoenix Suns improvement video

ValleyoftheSuns.com is starting a series of instructional videos on what Suns players need to work on this summer. Gortat is first up. I'm really glad he's playing for Poland this summer to practice any new moves he picked up from The Dream last month.

 

Former ASU Star Garret Siler Talks NBA Lockout | ABC 6 WJBF-TV

And here's a video interview of Garret Siler. Getting player interviews is going to be hard this summer, since most of the media access was dictated by team policy.

 

NBA: Projecting rookie stat lines for Kyrie Irving, Jimmer Fredette, Kemba Walker and other top picks - ESPN

Take a look at the bottom of this list of potential ROYs. Markieff Morris makes an appearance for his highly efficient scoring. Factor in the unmentioned high rebound rate and defensive acumen, and you've probably got yourself a 15-year NBA player. No idea yet how good Morris will be, but he'll fill the box score at least.

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by N8lol on Jul 8, 2011 8:01 AM MST reply actions  

Congratulations!

I don't know what to put in my sig.

by shawndy on Jul 8, 2011 8:54 AM MST reply actions  

So playing PF for the Suns is like playing drums for Spinal Tap?

Wishing you a long, healthy life filled with many points and rebounds, Markieff.

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by East Bay Ray on Jul 8, 2011 9:30 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

excellent use of simile, EBR.

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by Wil Cantrell on Jul 8, 2011 2:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Feel sad for Yao.

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by Spit_Fire on Jul 8, 2011 11:08 AM MST up reply actions  

Wow.

Hopefully taking a year or 2 completely off from basketball will help his feet to heal so he doesn’t have to deal with this for the rest of his life.

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by Omaha Sun on Jul 8, 2011 11:40 AM MST up reply actions  

It's too bad most Asians are lactose intolerant.

He could have drank milk a lot as a child growing up to keep his bones strong. I bet that’s one of the reasons his foot is so fragile along with his heavy weight.

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by modernage13 on Jul 8, 2011 11:41 AM MST up reply actions  

I can't tell if this is racist or not...

A football game is basically 22 men desperately needing rest being watched by 22,000 desperately needing exercise.

by NashMV3 on Jul 8, 2011 1:35 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm gonna lean towards "ignorant".

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by East Bay Ray on Jul 8, 2011 1:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Indeed.

Milk’s not the only source for calcium, which is REALLY what’s behind strengthening bones.

A football game is basically 22 men desperately needing rest being watched by 22,000 desperately needing exercise.

by NashMV3 on Jul 8, 2011 1:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Not to mention the fact that

Enornously tall people having foot problems is hardly uncommon.

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by East Bay Ray on Jul 8, 2011 1:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Sigh... this lockout's going to be LONG.

A football game is basically 22 men desperately needing rest being watched by 22,000 desperately needing exercise.

by NashMV3 on Jul 8, 2011 1:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Vitamin D3

can be supplemented to help with calcium for the bones.

Voted most likely to say "I told you so"

by jc79 on Jul 8, 2011 3:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Point still stands that milk's not the only source for that stuff.

A football game is basically 22 men desperately needing rest being watched by 22,000 desperately needing exercise.

by NashMV3 on Jul 8, 2011 3:12 PM MST up reply actions  

We don't even need Milk.

Except when were born. We only drink it because it taste good and can be used in a lot of foods. Broccoli provides more calcium than Milk.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Jul 8, 2011 9:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Do kids still hate broccoli?

Personally it’s one of my favorite veggies.

A football game is basically 22 men desperately needing rest being watched by 22,000 desperately needing exercise.

by NashMV3 on Jul 8, 2011 10:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Broccoli is awesome.

That was just a TV stereotype. Asparagus is what’s really disgusting.

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by Omaha Sun on Jul 11, 2011 8:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Asparagus is nasty.

I don’t like it.

A football game is basically 22 men desperately needing rest being watched by 22,000 desperately needing exercise.

by NashMV3 on Jul 12, 2011 8:03 PM MST up reply actions  

I read a good article in the NYTimes about breast milk the other day

A lot of these 3rd world/developing countries don’t breast-feed as much as they should and it’s actually having some really sad consequences.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/23/opinion/23kristof.html

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Jul 9, 2011 9:50 AM MST up reply actions  

Yep, like animals that's the only time we need Milk.

Notice how the animals stop drinking it once they’ve grown past that stage and yet we don’t? We don’t need it.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Jul 9, 2011 11:54 AM MST up reply actions  

That’s a fact. That is not racist. It’s really sad how some people think any time you mention a race is “racist.” Not so. Very narrow-minded thinking, that is.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jul 8, 2011 10:14 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

what’s a fact? the lactose-intolerant part?

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by Alex Laugan on Jul 8, 2011 10:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Yep. My girlfriend is both Asian and lactose intolerant.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jul 9, 2011 10:58 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree

In biochem when we covered lactose intolerance we were actually tested over Asian populations having a large frequency of lactose-intolerant individuals.

That’s not racist…that’s just simple science and statistics.

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Jul 9, 2011 9:46 AM MST up reply actions  

Is it really?

I’m not caling modernage a racist or anything of that sort. I just don’t know what to make of that comment. I’m Chinese, and I have yet to meet any lactose intolerant Asian people.

Maybe it’s just me, but it’s a bit presumptuous to go and say Yao didn’t drink milk as a youth just because there’s a study out there that says a great deal of Asians out there are lactose intolerant and to say that might be one of the reasons why he’s got foot problems.

He’s a big guy. I’m pretty sure the fact that he’s tall happens to account for something. As Ray said, it’s not uncommon for really tall people to have foot problems. Am I missing the point or something?

A football game is basically 22 men desperately needing rest being watched by 22,000 desperately needing exercise.

by NashMV3 on Jul 9, 2011 1:24 PM MST up reply actions  

I think it’s more the 7’6" than the race that causes foot problems. Big Z had major foot issues as well.

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by Alex Laugan on Jul 9, 2011 5:12 PM MST up reply actions  

That’s my line of thinking, but I guess I blew it out of proportion.

A football game is basically 22 men desperately needing rest being watched by 22,000 desperately needing exercise.

by NashMV3 on Jul 9, 2011 5:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Racist? No. Presumptuous? Absolutely.

There is no evidence I know of that Yao was calcium-deprived or that he’s lactose intolerant, or that any of that has anything to do with his foot problems. However, what rsavaj says is important here too. Different races are prone to different health conditions. For instance, African-American men are more prone to have untreated high blood pressure than other races or gender. You’ll sometimes see mention of this in PSAs about high blood pressure or stroke. There’s nothing wrong with acknowledging this.

And, FWIW, just last week a Chinese-American co-worker of mine told me he’s lactose intolerant, his Chinese-American wife is too, and that it’s common among Asians. It was news to me.

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by East Bay Ray on Jul 9, 2011 5:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks for the insight.

A bit premature of me to pull out the racist card. Maybe I’m ignorant…

A football game is basically 22 men desperately needing rest being watched by 22,000 desperately needing exercise.

by NashMV3 on Jul 9, 2011 6:17 PM MST up reply actions  

well, we could always get into a philosophical debate about the word ‘racist’ and how it likely wasn’t originally a bad word but has developed as such. At its root, a “racist comment” might simply refer to a factual comment about a particular race.

But then, human nature finds ways to make certain words mean something negative or positive just by uttering them out loud.

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by Alex Laugan on Jul 9, 2011 8:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Guess it doesn't help

that we happen to be having this discussion on an internet blog where it’s easy to take messages out of its intended context if interpreted differently.

A football game is basically 22 men desperately needing rest being watched by 22,000 desperately needing exercise.

by NashMV3 on Jul 9, 2011 8:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Agreed

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by Suns R Us on Jul 9, 2011 5:13 PM MST up reply actions  

yeah I was just looking for Suns links.

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by Alex Laugan on Jul 8, 2011 1:11 PM MST up reply actions  

that was so sad ughhh

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by sports_dude33 on Jul 8, 2011 3:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Wasnt jim boylen

On skiles staff when he was here?

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by stevedavis_ on Jul 8, 2011 12:09 PM MST reply actions  

I am watching Le Tour de France

Next 2 weeks should be exiting!

Alea iacta est!

by PolishHammer on Jul 8, 2011 12:26 PM MST reply actions  

totally

LOVE the TDF….

Crazy start this year. Seems more brutal than ever. Great to see Contador down almost two minutes already to Schleck.

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by Seth Pollack on Jul 8, 2011 1:19 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm a little hurt, Alex.

That you didn’t enjoy all of our pointless insightful conversation last summer on topics such as Erick Dampier, Earl Barron, trades involving Jason Richardson or Josh Smith, or trading J-Rich for Josh Smith. Throw in our attempts to rationalize how Hedo would be an effective PF, and it was a grand old time!

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by East Bay Ray on Jul 8, 2011 1:43 PM MST reply actions  

Thanks to the lockout, we don’t have to spend 2 months arguing over Hedo Turkoglu!

amen. live long and all that, alex.

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by Wil Cantrell on Jul 8, 2011 2:45 PM MST up reply actions  

lol – hey I was one of the big “Hedo WILL make it as a PF because he’s so savvy and it worked well next to Rashard Lewis and Dwight”…

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by Alex Laugan on Jul 8, 2011 4:42 PM MST up reply actions  

There was a whole lot of whistling past the graveyard going on here last summer.

And we were all guilty of it, except for Jim Coughenour. Dammit.

Well, and Scott Howard, but that sorta goes without saying.

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by East Bay Ray on Jul 8, 2011 5:38 PM MST up reply actions  

He might have

Next to Gortat. But next to Frye? Powder puff central.

by MMotherwell on Jul 8, 2011 6:50 PM MST up reply actions  

We were still assuming continued growth from Robin at that point.

I actually remember more than 1 person who said Robin was the key to the season.

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by Omaha Sun on Jul 11, 2011 9:18 PM MST up reply actions  

It's True

NBA in China is center around Yao Ming. Whenever there’s Yao there’s NBA on TV. Yi from New Jersey is nowhere near as popular as Yao and doesn’t quite capture the Chinese audience the same way Yao did

by Ben Tang on Jul 8, 2011 3:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Yi is so unpopular you forgot he plays for the Wizards now.

by troglodytes on Jul 8, 2011 5:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Really is he now

Shame on me. It really wasn’t publicize that much. Heck, even Yao Ming got hurt and sitting on the sideline generates more headline than everything that happened to Yi combine

by Ben Tang on Jul 9, 2011 10:03 AM MST up reply actions  

What abour Jeremy Lin?

Is he only a big deal among Chinese-Americans, but not in Asia? Or is he not that big a deal at all because he’s not a good enough player?

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by East Bay Ray on Jul 9, 2011 10:23 AM MST up reply actions  

Don't know much about him

I think he’s Vietnamese American but yeah, I saw some footage of him playing for the Utah D-League (I think, not entirely sure) couple years ago. He seem fairly decent but he will never enjoy the same treatment from the Chinese as Yao did

I think Yao Ming really hit it big during that one game where he played very well against Shaq some years. After that he pretty much became immortalize/idolize in the Chinese sports scene

by Ben Tang on Jul 9, 2011 10:39 PM MST up reply actions  

I believe it's Taiwanese American, Ben.

A football game is basically 22 men desperately needing rest being watched by 22,000 desperately needing exercise.

by NashMV3 on Jul 9, 2011 11:58 PM MST up reply actions  

dohhh

look what the lock out is doing to me :(

by Ben Tang on Jul 10, 2011 3:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Nope.

Lin was a rookie last year. He graduated from Harvard in 2010.

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by Omaha Sun on Jul 11, 2011 9:26 PM MST up reply actions  

You'll still have Asian American fans watching the NBA.

We may lose some China fans but those who love basketball will still watch. Just because Jordan retired didn’t mean the entire league did.

A football game is basically 22 men desperately needing rest being watched by 22,000 desperately needing exercise.

by NashMV3 on Jul 8, 2011 4:34 PM MST up reply actions  

make sense

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by sports_dude33 on Jul 8, 2011 4:46 PM MST up reply actions  

I really hate Bleacher Report

but I agree with most points in this article
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/761065-the-phoenix-suns-will-rise-again-7-solutions-to-make-the-suns-a-playoff-team
Except maybe the Warrick part.

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by Suns R Us on Jul 8, 2011 9:07 PM MST reply actions  

and AR

"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley

by Suns R Us on Jul 8, 2011 9:22 PM MST up reply actions  

It's Vince Carter's fault.

A football game is basically 22 men desperately needing rest being watched by 22,000 desperately needing exercise.

by NashMV3 on Jul 8, 2011 9:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Dan Newman, Spurs assistant

Also passed on the defensive coordinator job.

Looks like it’s down to Elston Turner and Pete Myers.

Achievement is its own reward, pride obscures it.

by hcblankscreen on Jul 8, 2011 9:38 PM MST reply actions  

Nobody wants to teach the Suns defense

Maybe it is a hopeless case:(

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Jul 8, 2011 9:53 PM MST up reply actions  

yeah I’m wondering about this. Is it really that the Suns offered the positions – twice in a row – and were turned down? If so, it would have to be money that’s holding them back. But then, how much could any one assistant make?

Or, are the Suns “dragging their heels” and these guys just had to pull themselves out of the running to get a guaranteed contract?

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by Alex Laugan on Jul 8, 2011 10:17 PM MST up reply actions  

I think you're right, it's probably the money

Everybody around the league loves Gentry, and the “defensive coordinators” have been getting a ton of attention. Pretty hard to believe they’d pass up the opportunity if they were offered the position, if the Suns end up at average or above average defensive efficiency that’d be great press for that coach.

Achievement is its own reward, pride obscures it.

by hcblankscreen on Jul 8, 2011 10:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Ive heard

myers is on board with g.s.,Even read an article where steph curry mentions him beign on the staff.

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by stevedavis_ on Jul 9, 2011 7:53 AM MST up reply actions  

I never thought Myers was a sure sign to a better defense. If he was a good defensive coach, wouldn’t he actually be someone’s defensive coach already? He’s a scout.

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by Alex Laugan on Jul 9, 2011 5:13 PM MST up reply actions  

I just hope Elston Turner doesn’t back out as well. then what would the Suns do?

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by Alex Laugan on Jul 9, 2011 8:01 PM MST up reply actions  

I think we will get Turner

he was interviewed for the Suns coaching job twice after D’Antoni left.

"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley

by Suns R Us on Jul 9, 2011 3:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Amber alert

Has anyone seen U.T.chuse?

"BALL"- Turkish poet Hedo Turkeyglue

by stevedavis_ on Jul 9, 2011 7:51 AM MST reply actions  

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