T'Wolves and Suns Fan...Who says no?

Dudley is the only reliable SG we have, so we can’t really afford to trade him away without getting a good replacement back.

Just make it Marcin Gortat for Derrick Williams and you have a deal. Originally, I was against this trade last summer when the rumors were swriling around, but things change. I love Marcin, he’s hurt right now (Broken Thumb) , but he’s a good center with the potential to maybe be a 1 or 2 time all-star. I didn’t want to trade him because he was still a new toy and a shiny, cool one too, but I recently came to the realization that our team is in need of young talent very badly and Marcin Gortat just might be our best and only tradeable piece that can get it. Plus, he’s 27. I don’t like the idea of building around guys who are already in their prime. Also, it may have had something to do with the lockout, Derrick being an unknown and Lopez being a hopeless case. I don’t think we could have afforded to make that trade then, however we can now.

Anyway, I know you need a SG badly, but we can’t afford to give Dudley up without a replacement like Beav said. It would have to be a 3-team deal, since we both know you don’t have a SG worth acquiring.

And how do your fellow fans feel about giving up Beasley AND Williams? Shouldn’t you hold onto one of them?

sac gets lopez(and maybe some picks)

minny gets cousins(and maybe some pick)

suns get williams(and maybe some picks)

then just throw in some extra guys to make the contracts work.
that way SAC gets a quality young center to grow, Minny gets it young big man and we get our young future hometown scorer

based on potential alone.

Both Beasley and Williams have the potential to be stars. Gortat may be a borderline star very soon, but Dudley never will be one.

I saw one game agaisnt OKC where in the 4th quarter he feel like a superstar and jack up shots that only Pietrus would have shot…missing all of them and losing.

As Suns fan my biggest preocupation is the lack of back up PG with potential to be a starter, now i don´t want to get dirty, but don´t you have a Rubio guy available for Dudley/Gortat or Nash/Childress?

If they want Dudley then they have to give us Ellington and pick up Warrick or Childress

Done

I wouldn’t, it’s a bad deal. Gortat for Williams is good enough. Doesn’t need to get bigger than that.

they would fill there spots and we would need a sg and center.

I’d still of course trade Gortat for Williams straight up but I would much rather prefer to keep Gortat since D-Will and the Polish Hammer gives us a solid core for the next 4-5 years. Plus, Williams prefers to play out of the four which works out well on the offensive end but will really hurt us on the defensive end. D-Will is only 6’8 248 so even with all of his explosive athleticism he will still be giving up a lot of weight and length to the star PF’s of the west like Gasol, Aldridge, Griffin, and Jefferson.

I have to wonder though….Why the hell would Minnesota even want to trade Williams? Beasley is a free agent at years end and he is more than expendable to the Wolves with the logjam they have at the 3 and 4 spots. Minnesota could easily trade Beasley or let him walk, have D-Will play the four three next year. Also, the departure of Beasley will free up some minutes for Anthony Randolph.

Totally wouldn’t mind getting either Barea or Luke Ridnour to be our back up PG, either.

Basiically, if you gave all of Beasley’s minutes to Williams, the Wolves could easily have won 4-5 games by now. No, I’m not joking. Beasley is truly earth-shatteringly bad. To put in perspective what a selfish chucker Beasley is, he ranks 8th among small forwards the NBA in FGA per 48 minutes (50 minutes minimum), but fifty-first in true shooting. No, not 51st in the NBA, 51st among small forwards. That means that essentially all of the starting SFs and two-thirds of the back-up SFs in the league are shooting better than he is, but he’s shooting 22 shots per 48. And I don’t keep stats for “contested 22-footers per 48” but having watched every Timberwolves game I’m going to guess he leads the league by a fat margin, ahead of even Kobe (I’m guessing that’s the reason that he’s 25th among small forwards at getting to the line, despite all those shots). Oh, yeah, and he turns the ball over a shitton. In short, Beasley is the very definition of a player that shoots you out of games. Every single time they choose to iso Beasley instead of just letting Ridnour or Rubio create off the dribble / pick-n-roll, a Timberwolf pup dies in the wild.

Williams is as turnover prone as Beasley, but I can chalk Williams’ TOs up to rookie mistakes and a general rookie “over-eager” attitude, which he may learn from. Most of his TOs come from ill-advised passes. Beasley, however, is a third-year player; the vast majority of his turnovers come from him trying to “create a shot” (a phrase that I guarantee I’ll be ranting about in a future article) and I don’t expect him to change anytime soon.