Game Preview: The Phoenix Suns At The Chicago Bulls
by Eutychus on Jan 17, 2012 1:29 PM MST
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PrintSo I have this problem. Every time I sit down to think about reigning NBA MVP Derrick Rose, I can't help myself from singing the old 1994 Seal classic (who am I kidding... his only classic) "Kiss from a Rose". Man what a great song. Why do I love that song so much? Maybe it's because I was a huge Val Kilmer as Batman fan... but more it's probably because I had a huge crush on Nicole Kidman, who was 'mmmmm mucho caliente arriba arriba' in that movie.
But the better question is - why does that song pop into my head when I think of Derrick Rose? I have to believe it's because there is a message from the past intended for our present Phoenix Suns team and their game tonight hidden within the lyrics. For Serious. You don't want to miss this so jump it fools.
As we've all seen and said and yelled and cried - the Suns are in a dark dark place right now, dare I say, a gray and mystical land of darkness shrouded in more gray and gloomy mystery.
Watch the video - it will cheer you up... but pay attention to the lyrics
Did you hear it?
Let me break it down for you. Clearly, when Seal sings,
"Now that your Rose is in bloom, a light hits the gloom on the gray"
What he's referring to my good friends, is your Phoenix Suns and their gloomy and gray current state. And the Rose is of course Derrick Rose. So herein lies the message. Now that the Suns (4-8) are facing Derrick Rose and the Bulls (12-3: the 'blooming') this is the time for a light to shine on this dark state the team is in. Now is the time for a win! Great news my fellow Bright Siders!
Back to Reality
The Bulls are ranked number 1 in the NBA in just about every Power Poll out there. (SBNation | ProBasketballTalk | ESPN.com | NBA.com.)
For the Suns to get a win tonight would be nothing short of a miracle. But guess what? We have some hope. The word on the streets is that Derrick Rose might not play. Rose has been playing through a 'turf-toe' type injury and was held out of the Bulls game last night.
From Bulls.com writer Sam Smith,
"The Bulls have two days off after playing Phoenix at home Tuesday, and there would seem no reason to play Rose against the Suns at this point."
Rose was held out of the Bulls 102-86 loss to the Memphis Grizzlies last night and that was the 2nd time in 4 games that he missed. Like Smith says, with two days rest after today and a big 5 game road trip on the schedule ahead for the Bulls, it might be wise for Tom T. to rest Rose against the 'lowly' Suns. That's great news for us! Especially since Rose averages 25 points a game against Phoenix, his highest average against any team. (we seem to say that a lot about players amiright?)
Also - the Suns are coming in off a no-practice day off yesterday in Chicago, while the Bulls played a physically draining rout loss last night and will tonight suit up for their 4th game in 5 nights. We should have the energy and rest advantage on that front... but this season that hasn't been a proven advantage for nearly anybody.
Notes
- No Rip Hamilton for the Bulls. Apparently he signed with them in the offseason... but has yet to play with some groin injury. Maybe he caught Steve's Pelvic Instability.
- Containing Noah and Boozer - I think our bigs will match up quite well with the Bulls bigs. Our biggest test will be if Channing Frye can body up Noah and contain that freak on the glass. He might pull a Varejao on us tonight if he can't.
- Read Coro's write-up on our Shooting - good stuff, 8 players on our team this year are shooting at %'s that are lower from last year. Can't have that.
- Steve looked like he was in A LOT of pain for whatever reason (was it the back? The quad? His groin? His ribs?) a couple nights ago on the bench in the 4th - not sure who else caught that... let's hope he's okay and was just having a cramp or something.
- Gotta stop that Deng Luol. He will light us up - looking to Dudley and Brown - or even Redd to step up defensively tonight against Deng. With Rose out, I would imagine Deng will try to load the offense on his back.
Again like I said - A win tonight would be a miracle, especially since the Bulls at 12-3 are off to their best start in 15 seasons at home (5-0) and holding opponents to something crazy like 34% shooting on their home court. But guess what? Crazy ish happens. Teams bond on the road. Our guys could come out of this lull and a light could indeed shine on our gray. Beating a team like Chicago would do wonders for our teams chemistry and overall psyche.
I love me some Suns - they are in fact ♪"My Power, My Pleasure, My Pain!!"♫
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hoping redd and Brown to step up and play D is, like, wishful thinking?
So Hill’s still out, yah?
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i've come to realize
that michael redd would make an absolutely AWESOME addition to an intramural basketball team. a true difference-maker. on a struggling NBA team hoping to turn its fortunes around? not so much.
Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
~Jack Burton, "Big Trouble in Little China"
by u_must_chill on Jan 17, 2012 12:33 PM MST up reply actions
No official word yet
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Adam West.
Also, beautiful post. I’ll have that song in my head “Now that the Rose is in bloom…..” all day.
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holy misplaced song meanings, batman!
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Good positive preview, Eut...
Former this game is one where Gortat has to wear Boozer out. Freye can’t guard Boozer so I think Gortat will get that assignment, Boozer will get his as their regular season numbers are fairly similar to Gortat. Conzidering that Boozer may be the worse defensive PF in the NBA, I think we ought to keep pounding the ball down into him until they are forced to switch Noah onto Gortat…
This rotation of Boozer unto Frye I think will free up a lot of space for the Suns shooters and hopefully keep Noah occupied and away from the boards. Hopefully it works.
Let’s do it tonight. Feeling positive and looking for a win..
Let’s Go Suns
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!
No doubt
if Boozer guards Frye then Frye should have open looks ALL DAY. …Now if he can hit them? another story.
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Big if at this point....
"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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I've decided
That I’m not gonna come here until we win another game. We really need to to give the team confidence. I can’t really see us winning this unless Rose doesn’t play but I think we can win the Knicks game. This is my first time posting since the Bucks game so hopefully we win at least ONE game on this roadtrip or else hello lottery pick. Also, I can’t help but think that Clippers want to unload Mo Williams. Not only is he a better PG than our backup, but he can help offensively as well. He’ll probably end up in the Lakers though or part of the Dwight Howard trade if it happens.
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You love us too much...
to stop coming. Crack ain’t got nothing on BSOTS….
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!
Ok you're right
I was hoping someone from the team would read this and would be like OH NO WE HAVE TO WIN OR ELSE…
…yeah right.
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Well, I’m gonna be out with my buddies and watching the game at the Buffalo Wild Wings. So, the Suns better win this one for me. Last time I went out to watch the game, it was against the 76ers and…
Phoenix Suns and Steve Nash. That is all.
Just don't place any bets
unless it’s on who’s going to show their “No” face more to the refs between Noah and Frye.
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Gortat is likely to have a good dame, it's up to the rest of the team to step up
Noah has been horrible this season so there’s that. And Boozer struggles against everyone who is smart enough to put a hand in his face when he’s shooting his weird fadeaway.
Without Rose, we’re looking at a team that relies on Luol Deng to do even more than he usually does (and he does EVERYTHING). Thibodeau is gonna run that poor dude into the ground.
Anyway, if our shooters just hit half the open looks Nash usually gets them we can win this.
I agree Thibodeau works Rose too hard
but Rose is a hard worker – so it’s a slippery slope of desire and restraint
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It is like Steve Nash
He is so good the coach always wants/needs him on the court. It is a fine line to walk.
"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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I said Thibodeau works DENG to hard, not Rose.
Rose is jogging around compared to what Deng does every night. He usually guards the best opposing player and is their 2nd option on offense. And their 3rd best rebounder. And the only one outside of Rose who can create a shot for himself or his teammates. And he plays pretty much 48 minutes every game. Deng is the identity of that Bulls team, not Rose.
Not sure I agree with that then
" Deng is the identity of that Bulls team, not Rose."
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That's where you're wrong.
He drops 15 and 7 night in night out, while guarding the opposing teams best man, no matter if he’s a point guard, swingman or forward. Never complains. Plays 40+ minutes. Gives his all from start to finish, whether it’s the last or the first game of the season. Is always there for the clutch defensive and offensive plays. Be it a steal or a block. A crucial tip in, or shot. He does every single little thing to make the opposition worse and his team better. And he does this Every. Single. Night.
Don’t even get me started on his humanitarian efforts. Him and his father were a huge part in South Sudan becoming independent. China wanting that oil helped too, sure, but still.
Really, you can’t help but be a fan of the guy. He’s a damn good player.
Awesome
I don’t doubt he’s a great player, but the reigning MVP is a pretty big deal too and his stats aren’t too shabby!
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He is the ultimate glue guy for them
But to say he is more valuable than Rose is a stretch. He was there before Rose even got there and they were bad. And it is not like Rose is a terrible defender.
"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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Okay maybe bad is a stretch
But they had no chance at a title at all. And getting in the playoffs (until recently (and even now the West is deeper)) in the East is not the same as getting in in the West.
"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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nasty rumor about nba players
Gortat is likely to have a good dame
sign grant hill !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jump shots!
Just make half of them because you are wide open half the time! And, Michael Redd, if you are not in game shape and getting out-hustled, please take yourself out of the game. Thirdly, play more Warrick to help with 2nd unit scoring. Fourthly (is that even a word), let us marvle over a Shannon Brown dunk at least once a game!
by Think about it on Jan 17, 2012 12:22 PM MST reply actions
Preach!
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i can easily see us hanging with the bulls for a solid 3 1/2 quarters
then losing because no one will be able to make a shot or contain luol deng in the final 5 minutes of the game
Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
~Jack Burton, "Big Trouble in Little China"
a real possibility
Or somebody steps up tonight – that could happen too.
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That just sounds like you're predicting the outcome of this game
based on the results from previous games.
It was only called the mildly irritated house on McDowell until I showed up.
by Jim Coughenour on Jan 17, 2012 3:16 PM MST up reply actions
Yes sir - same weird looking dude
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Did anyone watch the Dallas game last night?
Lol at VC doing what he does best…attempting a winning shot only to miss it and then limping to the bench. I would have chosen Terry instead. Also, I was surprised to see Pietrus making most of his shots last night. He even ran closer to the basket at one point instead of just chucking it. Everyone just plays better when they leave Phoenix…except maybe Joe Johnson. I wouldn’t doubt it if Frye’s shots start falling again if he gets traded.
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That's just vince being vince
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Frye comment
I wonder if Gentry gave Frye a redlight on the three, then ran some inside plays through him, consistantly,if he would respond with a decent game? Couldn’t be any worse. See if a week this summer with the dream payed off. Definately would like to see some plays ran down low through Morris also, have them setup to rebound better as well.
Yeah how much you wanna bet
that VCs foot is just fine. Any time he’s embarrassed he pretends he got injured on the play. I remember a guy in high school who used to do the same thing. No one expects you to make every shot Wince, you dont have to feign injury.
^lol
ya over the crowd and the music he heard a “pop” in his foot and didn’t bring it up until after the game. so glad he’s gone now just need to lose Chilly
He's been playing okay in Dallas
But how the heck do you hear a pop through all that noise? Maybe he’s in the zone so much that he doesn’t hear the music or crowd…just himself and the clunking sound of the rim.
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by modernage13 on Jan 19, 2012 12:10 AM MST up reply actions
Great...
We are starting to become the team you can rest your stars against…
Uggghh!!
OK, positive thoughts… LETS GET A WIN!!
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Good way for us to break out of a slump no?
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Indeed
I want to see the fire in this team. I want to see them be insulted when a team thinks they can rest their start players against us. I want to see them make teams pay for pulling something like this. I want to see the desire.
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Nice preview Euty.
Today without predictions and hopes. Just another game. I prefer “Bed os Rose(s)”
agreed
much better than my game preview
although
like myself, eutectic, you’re right on rose (sitting out), but wrong on rip. he’s starting tonight according to mybulls.
No Rip Hamilton for the Bulls. Apparently he signed with them in the offseason… but has yet to play with some groin injury. Maybe he caught Steve’s Pelvic Instability.
sign grant hill !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Couldn't have played the Bulls at a better time
No D Rose right now…. We have to take advantage of this situation on the road to save the season. Memphis beat them by about 20 last night too.
"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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Okay guys seriously WTF
How does Christian Bale win best batman? There is something wrong with this world. When he talks he sounds like a rapist or something with that low voice in costume…. I know the production is better in the new movies but no way is Bale the best Batman. I am offended! /rantover.
"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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I think for me it's a toss-up between Keaton and Bale
Val Kilmer – though I liked him is too soft-looking and soft-spoken
Clooney… just can’t take him seriously, it’s like every time he tries to be serious he looks like he’s about to bust into laughter
Now Keaton and Bale – both look like they could be dudes doing some legit shady business in the late night
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by Eutychus on Jan 17, 2012 1:39 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
The difference is
one of them is a comedian, and one of them could actually kick your ass. Dumb voice or not.
"The Knicks with the swiss cheese defense.
...Vince Carter likes cheese." -Walt Frazier
Yeah you're right. I'm going to have to say Bale. Final answer.
Besides after watching Newsies… there is no other answer.
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Keaton FTW
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
EUTYCHUS
The next time you start a post for this blog, stick to basketball. If you know more about movies,music or what ever I wish you would write about it—-SOMEWHERE ELSE. What a load of crap!
Nice to meet you too.
Thanks for voting for George Clooney btw looks like he’s slipping.
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I thought Bale had it down in Batman Begins
For some reason he didn’t sound so good in the Dark knight.
He’s done an awesome job as Bruce Wayne for all the movies.
Thing is, so did Keaton. It’s a hard to choose. Bale looks like he really could be batman. Keaton on the other hand just doesn’t look like he’d be batman, but for some reason he does when he’s wearing the suit. Perhaps that’s what would make him be the ideal batman, but I don’t know, I still love Bale. His movies were better.
Don't trade Dudley!
by Beavis 25 on Jan 17, 2012 1:49 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
As if either one of them could have handled this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlusgU-MUZ4&feature=related
No longer trying to light Vince Carter on fire.
by Scott Howard on Jan 17, 2012 1:51 PM MST up reply actions
Learned a valuable lesson today...
Why kick a shark’s ass when you can just carry around a can of repellant…? Thanks, Scott for the enlightenment…
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That was very disturbing
I couldn’t even finish watching it. Lol, and after watching the video Euty just posted, I was thinking the 90’s were weird.
Don't trade Dudley!
But just look at those REAL swells
They are bombing those waves.
"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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I was thinking the same thing
Bale as batman is a product of what they can do now with movies.
I went with Michael Keaton myself.
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You totally whiffed here, Euty
The best Seal song is “Crazy”.
Oh darlin’
In a sky full of people, only some want to fly
Isn’t that crazy
In a world full of people, only some want to fly
Isn’t that crazy, crazy
In a heaven of people there’s only some want to fly
Ain’t that crazy
Oh babe, oh darlin’
In a world full of people there’s only some want to fly
Isn’t that crazy, isn’t that crazy, isn’t that crazy, isn’t that crazy
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Love that song
Alanis did a nice cover: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUtwxSm6uuE
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
haha Never heard it
I’m pretty sure the only song he’s ever made is called “Kissed by a rose”
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"Crazy" was defintiely bigger then "Kissing a stink rose" or whatever it was called
Also appropriate to the Suns vs. Bulls because it would be crazy if Suns could get a win.
“Suns are never gonna survive,
Unless…,
They get a little crazy”
by oLLiE Boombayay on Jan 17, 2012 4:13 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
THE definitive Kiss From A Rose cover
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ5FBwLi_as
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Seeing that picture means that I have to post this again...
Never lowercase the SUNS in Phoenix SUNS!
by sidepart on Jan 17, 2012 2:59 PM MST reply actions 6 recs
Pew Pew Pew
"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!
I just hope that the SUNS will play for fun tonight...
They don’t look happy, and they don’t look like they’re enjoying themselves.
Never lowercase the SUNS in Phoenix SUNS!
Very good point
Got to remember it’s a fun game
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La vie en Rose? (Noah is French, son of tennis player Yannick)
Let’s start a W streak! No time like the present. To use a hockey expression: First star Nashty with double double in first half; second star Channing with lotsa 3’s; third star Gortat with 20-10. Honorable mention to Redd for breakout night.
Gooo Suuuns!
Suns vs. Bulls
Once upon a time that was a riveting match up, but today not so much maybe.
The Suns are no longer a team that can score points in bunches. Gone are the days where no deficit was unsurmountable and no lead was safe.
The Bulls don’t play showtime basketball. They beat the Raptors 77-64 last Saturday. Even a person with a perverse proclivity for defense had to be appalled at that performance.
Let’s hope the Suns don’t allow the Bulls to repeat that offense to offense.
I think 90 gives the Suns a good chance to win. I think 100 seals the deal. Please don’t lose an ugly game.
It was only called the mildly irritated house on McDowell until I showed up.
Suns can win this game without Rose or Rip in the lineup.
Also it would be nice to not go winless on the current road trip.
by oLLiE Boombayay on Jan 17, 2012 4:08 PM MST reply actions
Keaton fo sho'...
I don’t have any comment regarding the Suns.
"Who are we kidding?..."
by Larfleeze on Jan 17, 2012 4:20 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Rose is Out!!
sad to say that the only time there is hope to win is if the other teams best player is out.
How long
Do you guys think till Gentry make a change to the starting lineup? Due to performance not injury?
I would put money that Frye or Duds(most likely Frye) will be benched at the next home game if this road trip continues bad. any1 else wanna guess?
The Suns are to basketball as Val Kilmer is to Batman.
No longer trying to light Vince Carter on fire.
by Scott Howard on Jan 17, 2012 5:29 PM MST up reply actions
I think it might be time
For our player to play their natural positions just to give us some balance.
Gortat, Morris, Hill, Brown, Nash to start and Frye, Warrick, Dudley, Redd, Price as the reserves. Lopez, Childress, Telfair cheerleading.
If Hill is out start Dudley and give Childress some burn time or just start Childress. Rose is out so we do have shot.
Awesome post Eutychus, voted for Adam West. West is best.
I just read that
Dwight Howard wish list has just included the Clippers. If he had half a brain how is that deal going to take place without involving Griffen or Paul.
Does he think the Magic will take back Jordan, Butlers, Bullips and a first round pick. The only way i can see it happening is if the Clippers have enough cap space to sign him as a free agent which means he’ll have to take a pay cut. Will his ego allow that?
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