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Phoenix Suns Need Playmaker; Boris Diaw Available. Parlez-vous Francais?

Use your right hand to push your jaw back up off your lap and into place. Yes, the BSotS writer who cringes every time someone laments the loss of a former "7 seconds or less" player and/or the good ol' days is right now setting the bait on the hook.

Reportedly, Charlotte is finally so tired of the buttery croissant named Boris Diaw that they are making him available to anyone who wants him, as long as the return is not a bad, long-term contract (Warrick + Lopez works).

While Diaw may better resemble Oliver Miller these days than Hakim Warrick, he is still supremely talented. It's painfully obvious that he would be the second or third most talented player on this 2011-12 Suns roster. He would put up 15, 6 and 6 at the PF spot. Frye would switch to backup C, while Diaw and Morris would share PF. And, his contract expires in 3 months, which still allows the Suns to enter the offseason with a clean slate.

The upside? Diaw always performs very well after a trade (to the Suns in '06, then to the Bobcats in '08), he is always healthy enough to play, and he would need no adjustment period to the Suns' offense or defense. In fact, he would be the Suns' second-best playmaker, one of their best shooters AND their best post defender. He has even added the 3-pointer to his arsenal since joining Charlotte. The Suns would instantly become more entertaining to watch, with two (two!) guys able to generate open shots and/or score as needed.

The downside? He is soft as a roll of Charmin. And yet his playmaking and defense might just make the Suns a good enough team to fight for 10th place in the West, resulting in a bad combination of no playoffs and no top-5 pick for next year.

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Diaw..really..?

Apparently it’s come to this now…

Oh well, I guess if they toss a pastry clause in his contract, I guess it can’t hurt…

STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!

by Daryl Ray on Jan 18, 2012 8:07 AM MST reply actions  

lol. I know, right?

I liken bringing in Diaw to giving morphine to a dying patient. Whatever it takes to make the last days of this season more pleasant…

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 18, 2012 9:24 AM MST up reply actions  

Exactly what I am thinking

First we get like 50 Dorris comments last night now we get a post about it? I say NO thanks to Diaw returning.

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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by Airwave on Jan 18, 2012 1:00 PM MST up reply actions  

How about.

I know this seems terrible but I’m ready to call it a season.

Let Nash rest until next season (LOL), Get a top 5 pick, sign a good free agent, re-sign Nash for 2 years at a lower contract and let him retire a Sun if he chooses and dont we get Brooks back?.

You know if any of that is possible that is.

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by Revkrazy on Jan 18, 2012 8:14 AM MST reply actions  

I think if Nash doesn’t play anymore, it won’t be “resting” him. He’d have to have some “season ending surgery.”

Nevertheless, I think anyone at any time can find something on their body that a doctor will operate on.

Brooks is restricted FA, so when he gets back there’s no guarantee he is a Sun.

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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 18, 2012 8:43 AM MST up reply actions  

the way the Suns are playing, they’ll get a top-5 pick whether Nash plays or not.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 18, 2012 9:25 AM MST up reply actions  

This.

We can suck with or without him….

No longer trying to light Vince Carter on fire.

by Scott Howard on Jan 18, 2012 9:35 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

suck hard.

or suck less….

Tough choice for management.

STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!

by Daryl Ray on Jan 18, 2012 9:45 AM MST up reply actions  

Well you know

Trying to stretch his life span…. LOL

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by Revkrazy on Jan 18, 2012 10:27 AM MST up reply actions  

Oh I don't really care about resting him.

Because as previously discussed – we can suck just as bad with him playing.

No longer trying to light Vince Carter on fire.

by Scott Howard on Jan 18, 2012 10:32 AM MST up reply actions  

That was directed more at Revkrazy

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by East Bay Ray on Jan 18, 2012 10:36 AM MST up reply actions  

YIKES!!!!

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by Revkrazy on Jan 18, 2012 11:13 AM MST up reply actions  

Ha.

No longer trying to light Vince Carter on fire.

by Scott Howard on Jan 18, 2012 11:17 AM MST up reply actions  

Oh, go screw yourself, Scott.

That was a response for you. Better?

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by East Bay Ray on Jan 18, 2012 11:24 AM MST up reply actions  

Much.

XOXO.

No longer trying to light Vince Carter on fire.

by Scott Howard on Jan 18, 2012 11:29 AM MST up reply actions  

I think all this Boris Diaw talk has us being overly dramatic and emotional

It’s so French. I think I won’t work today, and will instead sit at the outdoor cafe drinking coffee and smoking cigarettes, unshaven and unshowered.

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by East Bay Ray on Jan 18, 2012 11:50 AM MST up reply actions  

In my mind Boris spent Game 5 of the 2007 Western Conference Semifinals....

Sitting on a heart shaped bed with his shirt off, drinking wine and eating a baguette.

No longer trying to light Vince Carter on fire.

by Scott Howard on Jan 18, 2012 11:51 AM MST up reply actions  

With this song playing on a loop in the background:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLuCfWEZ_hQ

(I just saw Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy…thus the only reason I know this exists)

No longer trying to light Vince Carter on fire.

by Scott Howard on Jan 18, 2012 11:58 AM MST up reply actions  

I dunno..

the thought of Daw sitting on a bed eating baquettes brings up memories of “Fat Bastard” from the Austin Powers movies.

All them crumbs wedged up in Boris’ fat rolls…Ugghhhh…

STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!

by Daryl Ray on Jan 18, 2012 1:31 PM MST up reply actions  

You obviously are not a big fan of Wil's work.

I'm a glutton for punishment. That's why I love the Phoenix Suns.

by NashMV3 on Jan 18, 2012 4:45 PM MST up reply actions  

If they took back either Chilly’s or Warrick’s contract then I would would happily give them Lopez.

by BritishSun on Jan 18, 2012 8:36 AM MST reply actions  

Hmmm

I was about to go off like a teenager with a hooker before you posed that interesting tidbit!

I really, Really, REALLY hate Diaw. HATE. Yes HATE. I hate 3 things in the world and diaw is one of them!!!!

The other two: LOPEZ and BROWN.

I can deal with losing, while watching Morris get playing time and develop. I can’t watch Lopez and Brown anymore. So, I would deal with trading Lopez and Brown for Diaw, as long as Morris plays.

So, trade Lopez, Brown, Childress for Diaw and Magette and their pick.

They won’t take the deal unless we take back Magette. Diaw is UFA, Lopez is on his QO next year, Brown is UFA, Chilly’s deal sucks, but hey, wtf, try anyway. It costs us only $4M in cap next year, but clears Chilly off the books and saves us a ton.

by hubertdavisfor3 on Jan 18, 2012 11:38 AM MST up reply actions  

Maggette?

Noooooo

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Jan 18, 2012 2:20 PM MST up reply actions  

I would totally do that, esp if Maggette is expiring. Haven’t looked at his contract, but he goes to the hole and gets points. We seriously need that. We could do a lot worse with the players we’d be giving up.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jan 18, 2012 2:29 PM MST up reply actions  

This situation calls for a stupid, and futile, gesture on somebody's part.

And this would do it.

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by suns68 on Jan 18, 2012 8:48 AM MST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Let's examine a few different angles.

Does this make the Suns better now?

Most likely. Some people already think the rotation needs shortened. This may help facilitate this. Diaw’s numbers are down this year, but it seems logical to assume that returning to play with Steve might vivify Boris. The contribution that Diaw has shown he can make is greater than the combined contribution that the Suns can expect to get out of Lopez and Warrick this season. Is it a guarantee? No. But Lopez has been horribly inconsistent and can’t get regular minutes behind Gortat (this might actually net Gortat more minutes) and Warrick has already seen his minutes evaporating this season.

Do the Suns want to keep Lopez?

I don’t think so. He hasn’t shown enough to merit the type of financial commitment the Suns would most likely have to make. As an RFA, Rolo will count against the cap unless the Suns renounce his rights (at which point they get nothing for him if he walks) so I can’t see it coming to that. The Suns have appropriated so much cap space in order to make a splash in free agency that I really can’t see them gambling some of it on Rolo based on his performance. I think they may be trying to wait as long as possible to make the most informed decision they can on the matter.

What else can the Suns get for Rolo?

This is important and speaks to the Suns strategy moving forward. Is there another deal to be had that nets the Suns a low first rounder for Robin? If so, would it be more prudent to explore that avenue and build for the future instead of putting a fluffy, buttery band aid on a struggling team?

This trade would most likely improve the team now, for one season. This trade wouldn’t compromise the cap space the Suns have created. In fact, it would absolve the Suns from Warrick’s contract. This trade doesn’t return picks or assets that may help moving forward. I don’t think it’s a terrible trade, it just depends on the ambitions of the front office.

I would also like to thank Alex for his concinnity and apologize in advance for any reproduction or duplication of the original and brilliant content comprising the original story. :)

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by Jim Coughenour on Jan 18, 2012 8:57 AM MST reply actions   2 recs

I would also like to thank Alex for his concinnity and apologize in advance for any reproduction or duplication of the original and brilliant content comprising the original story. :)

but you say it so much better than I do, so I can’t possibly get mad.

And you hit the nail on the head with another reason not to do the deal. The Suns get no rebuilding assets back for Lopez. It’s just like letting Lopez walk. of course, Omer Asik is a UFA this summer as well, and might be a better backup…

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 18, 2012 9:28 AM MST up reply actions  

+1 for

“Fluffy, buttery band aid”

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by Ceek on Jan 18, 2012 9:59 AM MST up reply actions  

well said

Couldn’t we push for a low first rounder from the Bobcats too? I mean, they are going to have one this year. but maybe they don’t want to give up the next Kwame Brown to play along side Byombo (what a bust again!). Or, couldn’t we get a third team to throw in a first rounder for cash or Telfair or something?

On the other hand, getting rid of Hak’s contract might be worth it too. And if we keep Boris for cheap, that could be another plus.

Grant Hill for prez.

by sun-arc on Jan 18, 2012 10:59 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

I don't think you can call biyombo a bust

Just went 5-5 scored 11 points, 10, rebounds and 4 blocks in 21 minutes agianst orlando.

Fan of the TEAM not a player.

by Suns Fan For Life on Jan 18, 2012 11:31 AM MST up reply actions  

Thank You haha

He is a working progress but has a lot of talent

by TS BOBCAT on Jan 18, 2012 11:58 AM MST up reply actions  

Whoa

Missed that one. I’ve been checking up on him for most games, and he hadn’t done anything that I saw. Four blocks, huh? Well, I’ll wait and see.

Grant Hill for prez.

by sun-arc on Jan 18, 2012 12:48 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

He had 5 blocks in 12 miniutes a few games ago

He is very raw and last night was the first night he got good miniutes.

by TS BOBCAT on Jan 18, 2012 1:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Plagiarism! We need to contact Congress and get all of your websites shut down, thief!

Ha. What a bunch of crap.

by BringBackBarkley17 on Jan 18, 2012 2:31 PM MST up reply actions  

make the Suns a good enough team to fight for 10th place in the West

so what’s the point for getting a 3-month rental if we’re not actually gunning for a playoff bid anymore? Is his expiring contract enough to want the trade regardless of whether he even helps us or not?

We should be positioning ourselves for 2012, even if not totally giving up on this season.

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by PHXgp on Jan 18, 2012 9:09 AM MST reply actions  

We should be positioning ourselves for 2012, even if not totally giving up on this season.

but that’s what Diaw would provide. a 10th-place finish IS is playoff “run” much like recent seasons. The point I was making is that anything better than 13th-place finish is really just a kick in the lottery balls.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 18, 2012 9:29 AM MST up reply actions  

And if the lottery balls don't roll our way...

It’s like having them smashed repeatedly in the hopper machine

STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!

by Daryl Ray on Jan 18, 2012 9:33 AM MST up reply actions  

Funny thin, Fat Diaw is a better rebounder and defender than Skinny Diaw who already is a better rebounded and defender than Robin Lopez

Aside from scoring he’s doing better than ever TBQH. It’s his best rebounding season since forever and he’s averaging almost 5 assists a game to boot, despite playing less than 30 minutes.

If Charlotte want to let him go, we shouldn’t hesitate. Out 2nd unit has NOTHING so this would be a hell of an update. I don’t care, I don’t wanna see this team tank.

by rzyn on Jan 18, 2012 9:14 AM MST reply actions  

Thin!

ha, I see what you did there

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by AcucracK on Jan 18, 2012 1:27 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m sure the Bobcats will be hoping for better deals than getting Warrick And RoLo. The book on those two is prettty written – they’re not very good. The Bobcats would have to hate Boris a lot to want Warrick and RoLo’s inconsistent performances.

by jj24 on Jan 18, 2012 9:28 AM MST reply actions  

lopez at center

for them isn’t too bad with a position they suck at, and they could use the scoring that Hak brings them. But, yeah, they’ll take the best option for them, and this might not be it.

Grant Hill for prez.

by sun-arc on Jan 18, 2012 11:01 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

No Easy Solutions for SUNS

It will take years for the SUNS to be amongst the top teams in the west. They have only 2 current NBA top notch players, Gortat and Nash, and Nash is not a young man. The organization needs new management starting at the top and working down, and a much more competitive and talented roster of players.

by Catamaran1 on Jan 18, 2012 9:29 AM MST reply actions  

I remember this guy Boris Diaw playing with the national team of France against Greece in 2005.
Now at age 29 should be a good player at his peak.

by to-win on Jan 18, 2012 9:38 AM MST reply actions  

I wouldnt vomit....

But id wonder what the point was. I’m effectively resigned to our fate this year. There are much worse things than having a Top 10 pick and cap space for 2 Max free agents. Could be a rapid rebuild with some luck.

No longer trying to light Vince Carter on fire.

by Scott Howard on Jan 18, 2012 9:42 AM MST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Exactly

That’s the way I view it. This season is down the drain anyways. A high lottery pick and lot’s of cap space would definitely help speed up the process

by NashtyNash on Jan 18, 2012 9:44 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, the word that came to mind for me was "pointless"

This would be the classic “re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic” move. Worse, it would have the foul stench of pathetically trying to regain some sort of long-gone glory.

Pass.

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by East Bay Ray on Jan 18, 2012 10:15 AM MST up reply actions  

I don’t disagree.

Just thought posing the question would provoke some fresh new content for the site. ;)

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 18, 2012 12:29 PM MST up reply actions  

oh that’s coming. In 54 parts. ;)

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 18, 2012 12:43 PM MST up reply actions  

We need to break down every possible angle of it.

Definitely need a multi-part piece.

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by East Bay Ray on Jan 18, 2012 12:43 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m thinking one part per day…

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 18, 2012 12:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Nice. One for every game for the rest of the season...

plus a final one to put us out of our misery..

STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!

by Daryl Ray on Jan 18, 2012 1:34 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm of the opinion

that at this point in the season, when we’ve already seen the product we’re putting on the court, the only course of action is to weather this collective sh*t storm with the cast of players that we currently have, and hope for big moves and high draft picks in the very near future.

There is also always a chance that a contending team will have a big man go down, which would up Lopez’s stock significantly, and possibly give us a late 1st or early 2nd round pick for him, which isn’t too shabby, especially if we get it for this years draft which last I heard was considered one of the deepest in years by most experts on the matter.

My grandma (and yours probably), always said, “You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig”…with that in mind, Boris Diaw, in my honest opinion, is nothing more than a cheap shade of french lipstick that will do nothing for our team in the long run…

Then again, my grandma was a drunk.

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by Ceek on Jan 18, 2012 10:05 AM MST reply actions  

pickle

we need to be thinking draft pick; any way to package Lopez for a draft pick seems to be the most logical, and hope he doesnt get injured while we wait; there will be some bubble teams soon, or contenders that need what we have, I think, so I say hold him, cuddle him, and nurse him so he doesn’t implode or get injured (half joking of course).

by rdgroce on Jan 18, 2012 10:17 AM MST up reply actions  

Cheer up SUNS fans, great news for all you ROSTERBATERS

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by phxuk: Ap on Jan 18, 2012 10:31 AM MST reply actions  

I would take

Boris in a heartbeat,Make all the fun you want he makes other players better and if motivated is a difference maker

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by stevedavis_ on Jan 18, 2012 10:39 AM MST reply actions  

that's a big if on this team right now

traded here or not.
Though if he wants a FAT contract next season, I guess he could be motivated. Or he could plan to retire.

Grant Hill for prez.

by sun-arc on Jan 18, 2012 11:04 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

"Parlais vous"

the right sentence is “Parlez vous français?”.
Boris is really unselfish and try to always find his teamate on the court and Channing is not really productive right now. That could be a good thing for steve he can rely on Diaw someimes and take some rest.

by JustinBridou on Jan 18, 2012 10:45 AM MST reply actions  

yeah I know. Just playing the dumb sports dude.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 18, 2012 12:30 PM MST up reply actions  

My opinion

It depends on what we’d have to give up. I’m not crazy about the idea of giving up Lopez for him because I think we could get more for Robin before the trade deadline. Lopez is a young 7’1" center playing behind a borderline all-star here, and there are plenty of teams, like Golden State, that need more size who may be willing to give up a mid to late first rounder to give him a shot.

Diaw is on a $9 mil expiring contract, so even if we traded for him it would only be a rental. I don’t think Diaw is in our long term plans, and he wouldn’t make enough of a difference to get us to the playoffs this year so it wouldn’t make much difference.

by 7footer on Jan 18, 2012 10:55 AM MST via mobile reply actions  

but what if we keep him as a backup something next year for $2.5m? he could be an interesting part of a good team… possibly.

And, what’s the difference from a rental standpoint? Price, Brown, Redd, Hill, and Telfair are all rentals. Hak’s contract is higher than we’d like, and Lopez will most likely be leaving us anyway next summer.

though, I do agree we might be able to get a draft pick for Lopez, which would be better than a rental player right now. But my point is, we have tons of rentals as it is, and if this makes us better this year (and more interesting to watch) why not do it – WITH the caveat that it would be great to get a draft pick too.

Grant Hill for prez.

by sun-arc on Jan 18, 2012 11:08 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

No problem with rentals...

Just don’t want to give up a young big man who could potentially give us more value in order to get one.

by 7footer on Jan 18, 2012 3:35 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

I'd take Diaw for Warrick + Lopez

If they throw in a 2nd rounder. I really don’t see Lopez improving that much, I still feel he is hampered by the fear of injury (not hustling on the floor, jumping high etc). Lopez will, if healthy, by todays center standards get somewhere around $6M yearly for the next year, which I hope the Suns are not willing to pay as long as Gortat plays 35+ minutes.

The deal also coincides with the FO plan of cap relief in the 2012 free agency.

by Lompe on Jan 18, 2012 11:17 AM MST reply actions  

You guys could honestly have him for just a 2nd rounder

If only the money worked, Warrick and Lopez for him would be great for us

by TS BOBCAT on Jan 18, 2012 11:58 AM MST reply actions  

that’s the problem. The money has to work, and you guys don’t want Childress’ 4 remaining years.

But I was just posting this to see the reaction. I’m personally leaning toward vomiting on the current season, rather than vomit on Doris coming back.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 18, 2012 12:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Why not both?

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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by Airwave on Jan 18, 2012 1:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Who says you can't have your cake and vomit it too...?

STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....! BTW, If positivity is a crime, I plead guilty by reason of T-Bird...!

by Daryl Ray on Jan 18, 2012 1:35 PM MST up reply actions  

What makes you feel that way?

Does he have a lack of effort? Or does he make dumb mistakes? Tired of seeing him jog around the court? Or…?

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by sun-arc on Jan 18, 2012 12:52 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

I think we wouldnt mind having him if we havent had to overpay him

He is a great playmaker and a stat sheet stuffer but only when he wants to be, as im sure you all know. But yes he really cannot add much to our team now as im sure you guys can tell we are not very good right now and MJ is doing the right thing in trying not to take on any bad deals and rebuild with great young talent (Kemba,Bismack,Henderson).

by TS BOBCAT on Jan 18, 2012 1:07 PM MST up reply actions  

I feel for you guys

I really hope our road back is t as long as yours. But seems like MJ is getting rid of the best pieces. I suppose he is clearing space for better players, but it is painful to watch.

Thanks for the feedback. I wish you guys luck.

Grant Hill for prez.

by sun-arc on Jan 18, 2012 1:12 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Thank you

I know some people did not understand trading Wallace and Jackson but when you think about it all they were doing was keeping us mediocre and competing for the last playoff spot in the east and then not going anywhere and not being in a position to draft any good players. But trust me you guys will be back to competing for championships soon, you are definatley further ahead then us with a player like Nash. From someone on the outside looking in I would try and trade Nash for some great young pieces and draft picks. I know its hard to trade one of the best players in the league in my opinion but there comes a time to go young and rebuild. Of course I am not as in touch with your team so I could be being extremely ignorant.

by TS BOBCAT on Jan 18, 2012 2:48 PM MST up reply actions  

but when you think about it all they were doing was keeping us mediocre and competing for the last playoff spot in the east and then not going anywhere and not being in a position to draft any good players

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 18, 2012 5:37 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

Where does that sound familiar?

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 18, 2012 8:29 PM MST up reply actions  

If we want Diaw

Why not just wait until he is a Free Agent next year? Getting marginally better now doesn’t help us at all in the grand scheme of things. We can save our players for a different trade.

Like others have said, we should try to get a 1st rounder or a borderline all-star for Lopez, not a rental that doesn’t help us long term.

However, if we can miraculously get rid of Chilly’s contract, then yes please! Hak’s isn’t as bad, but not ideal for a backup player who is 1 dimensional. So Hak+Brown (+2nd rd pick maybe) for Diaw is fine, but anything more would not be worth it for us.

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by ajcarleton on Jan 18, 2012 12:15 PM MST reply actions  

If we want Diaw Why not just wait until he is a Free Agent next year?

I don’t think anyone in their right mind wants Diaw long-term. The only non-vomit option would be to bring him in for 3 months as his contract runs out, to make the current sucky season taste a little better.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 18, 2012 12:34 PM MST up reply actions  

If we are going to miss the playoffs

I don’t see the point in trying to pick up a few extra wins to get a higher draft number…. Especially for Dorris.

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
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by Airwave on Jan 18, 2012 1:11 PM MST up reply actions  

I think it's more for the fans

who pay money to go see games. If the Suns are at least entertaining but still sucking, more people will go to the games than if the team is boring and sucking even harder. It’s a money thing.

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by AcucracK on Jan 18, 2012 1:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Fair enough

If I regularly went to games I know I wouldn’t be excited to see Diaw again haha but maybe some people would enjoy that…. I would rather just get a better player for next year then rent-a-dorris.

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by Airwave on Jan 18, 2012 1:59 PM MST up reply actions  

I wouldn't get rid of Lopez

Sorry. I like Lopez, he’s doing OK this year. If we could get Diaw for Chilly and Warrick or Chilly and Brown (that chucker) or maybe Chilly and Telfair… Or mostly just Chilly… I’d be cool with it.

If we have to ditch Lopez, screw that. Just wait until he’s an FA next year.

If we do get Diaw, we just need to find a way to get him pissed off. He may be a fluffy pastry normally but any time someone has flagrant fouled him or kicked him in the nuts, he’s gone INSANE.

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by sidepart on Jan 18, 2012 12:19 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Every time you feel a game going to the crapper

You have to drink until you have to go to the crapper.

by lixuec on Jan 18, 2012 12:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Drink every time we leave a shooter open LOL

Or whenever we dunk the ball (in this case you wouldn’t be drinking haha).

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by Airwave on Jan 18, 2012 1:12 PM MST up reply actions  

drink

every time shannon brown takes a shot when he’s not open.

alcohol poisoning

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by Ceek on Jan 18, 2012 1:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Other team grabs an offensive board – Drink

For every minute the Suns can’t score in the quarter – Drink

Anytime they cut to a portion of Gentry talking to the team and says “Kay?” – Drink

If the team switches to a zone defense – Drink

For every point scored after we are down by 20 already – Drink

WILDCARD!! – If Childress some how makes it into the game – Drink entire bottle of whiskey

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by AcucracK on Jan 18, 2012 2:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Jesus.

Not sure if I will be able to keep up with all that…BTW, who keeps score?

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by Daryl Ray on Jan 18, 2012 2:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Your liver, probably.

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by Zavada's Moustache on Jan 18, 2012 4:00 PM MST up reply actions  

If you manage to keep score, you are losing.

borderline adequate

by waxmonkey on Jan 18, 2012 4:53 PM MST up reply actions  

A shot for every turnover.

You’ll be out by halftime.

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by NashMV3 on Jan 18, 2012 4:47 PM MST up reply actions  

How about everytime SB takes a jumper instead of driving we take a shot?

should be hammered before the 3rd quarter.

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by Revkrazy on Jan 18, 2012 12:25 PM MST reply actions  

lol

posted mine and then read yours.

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by Ceek on Jan 18, 2012 1:39 PM MST up reply actions  

But, seriously

If the Suns could’ve got 15, 5 and 5 out of him on a consistent basis, he would never have been traded. His inability to go for the Full French is what doomed him the first time around.

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by JSun on Jan 18, 2012 12:29 PM MST reply actions  

Hilarious, Alex…and I’m a big Diaw fan.

The ONLY way I see this working is if the Bobcats take Frye and in that case, why not. Boris is expiring and would be happy here. He does some nice things.

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by Seth Pollack on Jan 18, 2012 12:37 PM MST reply actions  

yeah wha-what?

What’s Frye got to do with making it work? You mean in terms of playing rotation on the Suns? Or salary matching (which isn’t true; Warrick/Lopez work)? Or what?

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 18, 2012 12:44 PM MST up reply actions  

I am not saying anything (as in, I have no info on this)…but

1) If you are taking Diaw back for the rest of this year he needs to play like 25 mpg. So that means some one’s minutes has to go.

2) Frye has a big contract but still also has value unlike Warrick or Childress

3) Long term, Morris can be the stretch four so a rotation of Gortat, Diaw, Morris and Lopez (w/ Warrick as an extra) works while a rotation of Gortat, Frye, Diaw, Morris doesn’t

4) Lopez is still worth far more than an expiring contract.

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by Seth Pollack on Jan 18, 2012 1:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Why trade a trade asset

For an expiring contract of an inconsistent player? No thanks

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by Airwave on Jan 18, 2012 1:17 PM MST up reply actions  

you cant trade Lopez

his is SETH’s Favourite

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by phxuk: Ap on Jan 18, 2012 1:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Actually, I wish they would trade him at this point so he could play consistent minutes somewhere…but he’s worth more than an expiring contract.

I am hoping they package him somehow to get another RFA from his class. OJ Mayo for example.

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by Seth Pollack on Jan 18, 2012 1:28 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm with you, Seth.

Lopez is a keeper.

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by haremoor on Jan 18, 2012 5:03 PM MST up reply actions  

or at least trade bait for much more value than Boris Diaw’s expiring contract

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by Seth Pollack on Jan 18, 2012 5:20 PM MST up reply actions  

let’s hope they can get future value out of Lopez. I guess I’m just not convinved the FO won’t just let Lopez walk.

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by Alex Laugan on Jan 18, 2012 5:39 PM MST up reply actions  

I say get Diaw for the inefficient Brown & the stagnant Childress. And the Suns should try to get JR Smith for Warrick & Lopez once his contract expires offsea. Never trade Nash. The Suns will be sorry trading Nash. Point guards like Nash don’t come very often.

by Penny Hardaway on Jan 18, 2012 6:58 PM MST up reply actions  

I think so

I’ve seen him around a lot lately… must have blown all his money over the last decade.

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by ajcarleton on Jan 20, 2012 8:19 AM MST up reply actions  

Seriously, Alex...A motivated Boris is a decent player...

But I’m not even sure that would help the Suns right about now…we’d only be marginally more athletic which is one of our biggest downfalls…Diaw is a decent post defender, but hell we need somebody to stop wing players from going slam freaking crazy on us…Considering the fact that we’d have problems finding a decent croissant after he got here…I just don’t see any upside in this..

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by Daryl Ray on Jan 18, 2012 1:41 PM MST reply actions  

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Yes and No to Boris.

If our FO does trade for him and he plays really well, promise me, promise me, you guys won’t convince the FO to re-sign him.

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by Beavis 25 on Jan 18, 2012 1:48 PM MST reply actions  

Well,

this would give me the opportunity to pull my oversized, blue Diaw jersey out of the back of my closet.

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by Dragic_is_Magic on Jan 18, 2012 1:52 PM MST via Android app reply actions  

As odd as it dounds

It isn’t Boris’s playmaking we need – it is his defence.

We are 11th in oRtg, and 5tgh LAST in DRtg. That is what we need to right, because the bench can’t score, so we aren’t going to get much better on O, even with another “playmaker”, we need to get better on D.

The scheme is an unmitigated disaster, and I can’t believe that we continue to run such a complicated scheme in a season with a short training camp and NO practice time.

by MMotherwell on Jan 18, 2012 1:55 PM MST reply actions  

If we got Daiw back

Our FO would probably give the Bobcats our 1st rd pick thinking we could make a playoff run lol.

I’d be happy with Diaw if it ment we could clear more cap space for next year, or it net us picks or other players. I don’t know why the Suns haven’t made a trade for Mayo the guy can flat out score. He is buried on the bench in Memphis and it’s clear that the Grizzlies can’t keep him with all the money they have with Gasol, Z-Bo, Gay and Conley.

by Sunderstruck on Jan 18, 2012 2:05 PM MST reply actions  

There's a reason why Mayo's buried

Compared to an average shooting guard per 48, he doesn’t shoot that well – http://www.thenbageek.com/players/compare?utf8=%E2%9C%93&player_ids%5B%5D=153

We are better waiting it out for next year – that’s a solid plan, as frustrating as the season is.

by MMotherwell on Jan 18, 2012 2:15 PM MST up reply actions  

If we had more talent on the team, sure

I’ve always been one of Boris’s biggest fans have no doubt that he would come in and play very well here. We’d go from a .300 team to a .500 team pretty quickly IMO…..but that actually just brings us closer to the worst-case “not good enough for the playoffs, not bad enough for a good pick” scenario.

So I’mma vote no.

Unless they take Chilly’s contract off our hands.

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by rsavaj on Jan 18, 2012 2:24 PM MST reply actions  

I say get Diaw and trade Brown. Also get JR Smith once his contract expires oversea. Keep Nash! The only reason why the suns is beating is because of Nash. Don’t listen to the dumba$$es who wants to trade Nash. Next the Suns will be doing once they trade Nash is looking for another point guard like Nash. Goodluck if that happens. Guards like Nash comes every decade.

by Penny Hardaway on Jan 18, 2012 6:54 PM MST reply actions  

Guards like Nash comes every decade.

Huh?

by Lompe on Jan 19, 2012 1:09 AM MST reply actions  

I find it funny

Leading up to his free agency suns fans were scared banker bobs cheap ass wouldnt pony up like joe j.If wee wouldnt have given him 9 mil someone else would have on the open market maybe even more,Remember we signed him a year before he hit the open market @ the time I dont think it was a bad deal,just my opinion.

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by stevedavis_ on Jan 19, 2012 9:26 AM MST reply actions  

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