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Phoenix Suns vs. Boston Celtics Game Preview

Grant Hill will be the oldest player on the floor tonight, but he'll see plenty of fellow 30-somethings when he looks over at the other side.

When we previewed the Suns current 5-game road trip, the fourth game of the trip against the Boston Celtics looked to be one of the more difficult matchups. After all, in the four seasons since the Celtics acquired Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett to complete their new "Big Three", they've won at least 60 games twice, at least 50 games in the two other seasons, won the Finals once and narrowly lost in another Finals appearance.

This has been one of the league's elite teams. But the key phrase in that statement might just be "has been", as the aging Celtics are off to a slow start at 5-8, and talk of "blowing up the team" is swirling after it took a game against the lowly Raptors for the Celtics to snap a 5-game losing streak.

The Suns broke a 5-game losing streak of their own with a win over the stumbling New York Knicks at Madison Square Garden Wednesday by holding the Knicks' wannabe dynamic duo of Amare Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony to a combined 12-44 shooting from the field. Before that the Suns were in a free fall, dropping from the doorstep of the Western Conference's top 8 teams down to #13, losing to good teams and bad alike along the way.

Which of these old, floundering teams is ready to gain a little momentum with a second consecutive win?

Follow the jump for more.

Star-divide

The Suns and Celtics split their two games last season, with the Suns laying waste to the Celtics 88-71 in Phoenix last January 28th in one of their best performances of the season. When the Suns went to Boston, the Celtics returned the favor with a 115-103 blowout win.

Marcin Gortat led the Suns in their win with a 19 point, 17 rebound outing and Vince Carter scored 17 (yes, he did have a few good games for the Suns), but the most memorable event in the game was Kevin Garnett's classless low blow to Channing Frye's nether regions as Frye was landing from a jump shot. In case you have forgotten, watch this. (Take special note of that blowhard jackass former ESPN analyst and current Warriors coach Mark Jackson inexplicably defending Garnett):

Last season was mostly of the soul-sucking nature for Suns fans. There wasn't much to get too excited or disappointed about. It was just bleh. But this....THIS!.....My blood was boiling watching this go down, and I remember that game as one of the sweetest victories of the season. I might have even used a few naughty words in the game thread to describe my feelings about Garnett, and those feelings have not gone away AT ALL. His team is getting whipped and his response is to punch a defenseless opponent in the groin? Garnett might be a future HOF-er, but he's a punk for moves like that. He's one of the players I hate the most in the NBA and I'm frothing at the possibility the Suns can stick it to him again.

Channing's mother Karen Frye wasn't happy about Garnett's cowardly act either, as she explained to our own Eutychus when he asked her about the incident on Suns media day last month.

The Celtics got us back in that second game last year. This is the only time we face them this year, and could be the last time we ever face this core group of players. So, win this F@*#-ing game, Suns. Win it for Karen Frye, win it for all of us. I want Kevin Garnett to walk off that court completely pissed off.

Now, on to the game details.

This year's version of the Celtics continues the slow, grinding style we're accustomed to seeing from them, as they're 27th in the league in pace and the average score of their games so far is 90.2-91.0. All of the numbers show them to be a thoroughly average team: they're 19th in O-Rating and 16th in D-Rating. For a team that's been a championship contender, that is quite a drop. As Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen age deeper into their 30s, point guard Rajon Rondo has become more of their true franchise player. Rondo leads the team in assists and is second in scoring.


FG 3PT FT Rebounds Misc
G M M A Pct M A Pct M A Pct Off Def Tot Ast TO Stl Blk PF PPG
Ray Allen 12 34.9 5.2 10.3 50.0 2.8 4.9 55.9 2.5 2.8 88.2 0.6 2.4 3.0 2.3 1.9 0.8 0.0 1.4 15.6
Rajon Rondo 13 36.3 5.8 11.2 51.7 0.2 0.7 33.3 3.2 5.4 60.0 1.5 3.5 5.1 9.4 3.8 1.7 0.0 2.5 15.0
Paul Pierce 10 31.5 4.6 11.9 38.7 1.8 4.1 43.9 3.9 4.7 83.0 0.7 4.2 4.9 3.9 2.5 0.7 0.3 2.0 14.9
Kevin Garnett 13 30.6 5.4 11.4 47.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 2.7 3.2 83.3 1.5 6.0 7.5 2.5 2.1 0.4 0.8 2.2 13.5
Brandon Bass 13 27.5 4.8 10.1 48.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.7 2.3 73.3 1.6 4.6 6.2 0.6 0.7 0.3 0.7 2.2 11.4
Mickael Pietrus 5 19.6 2.8 6.4 43.8 2.2 5.4 40.7 0.4 0.8 50.0 0.0 1.2 1.2 0.0 0.2 0.8 0.2 2.2 8.2
Keyon Dooling 9 18.3 2.1 4.6 46.3 1.1 2.8 40.0 1.7 1.9 88.2 0.1 0.8 0.9 1.2 2.0 0.2 0.1 2.2 7.0
Jermaine O`Neal 12 22.7 2.3 5.5 42.4 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.2 1.6 73.7 1.5 4.1 5.6 0.3 0.7 0.4 1.6 3.3 5.8
Marquis Daniels 11 16.0 1.4 5.0 27.3 0.0 0.4 0.0 0.5 0.7 75.0 0.6 1.9 2.5 1.5 0.8 0.6 0.3 1.5 3.3
Sasha Pavlovic 6 11.5 1.2 3.0 38.9 0.5 1.3 37.5 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.8 0.8 0.3 0.5 0.5 0.3 1.5 2.8
Avery Bradley 12 9.3 1.0 2.6 38.7 0.1 0.8 11.1 0.3 0.5 66.7 0.3 0.7 1.0 0.5 0.5 0.3 0.0 0.9 2.4
Greg Stiemsma 11 10.5 0.8 1.5 56.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.6 0.9 70.0 0.9 1.8 2.7 0.5 0.5 0.2 1.5 2.3 2.3
JaJuan Johnson 8 2.9 0.6 1.3 50.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.4 0.5 75.0 0.3 0.5 0.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.1 1.6
Chris Wilcox 7 7.6 0.7 1.3 55.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.6 25.0 0.9 1.0 1.9 0.0 0.4 0.0 0.4 0.7 1.6
E`Twaun Moore 9 7.2 0.7 2.4 27.3 0.2 0.8 28.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.3 0.4 0.8 0.1 0.4 0.0 0.8 1.6

The good news for the Suns is that Rondo is doubtful to play after injuring his right wrist against the Raptors on Wednesday night. Journeyman combo guard Keyon Dooling would be a prime candidate to replace Rondo, but he missed practice on Thursday due to injury and is also unlikely to play. Second year pro Avery Bradley, he of the 81 points and 18 assists total in his career, looks to be the next in line, so this should give the Suns a great opportunity to control the Celtics offensive output. Update 1/20/12 10:53AM MST: Rondo's MRI results were negative. He's now a game-time decision and says he expects to play, according to the Boston Globe.

Questions remain about the Suns lineup as well, although the team is reasonably healthy. Alvin Gentry inserted Ronnie Price and Markieff Morris as starters Wednesday night. The pair wasn't particularly effective and one of the players sent to help bench production, Jared Dudley, went scoreless, but the Suns did have steadier production throughout the game. They didn't lose any of the four quarters to the Knicks, so a similar lineup can probably be expected tonight. Update II 1/20/12 12:25PM MST: Paul Coro reports that the starting linueps will be:

PG: Steve Nash vs. Rajon Rondo

SG: Ronnie Price vs. Ray Allen

SF: Grant Hill vs. Paul Pierce

PF: Markieff Morris vs. Kevin Garnett

C: Marcin Gortat vs. Jermaine O'Neal

Note: Our esteemed contributor Jim Coughenour did BSotS proud Wednesday in an appearance on New Hampshire ESPN affiliate WGAM. His brilliant piece analyzing the Suns early season results gained the station's attention and he participated in a telephone interview, the podcast of which can be found here (go to about the 3/4 way mark). Great work, Jim! Brightsiders, post high quality fan posts and this could be you!

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So I have to just rec this instead.

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by East Bay Ray on Jan 20, 2012 11:23 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

i try to do my part

to elevate the level of discourse on the thread :)

Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."

~Jack Burton, "Big Trouble in Little China"

by u_must_chill on Jan 20, 2012 11:33 AM MST up reply actions  

You completely captured the tone I was conveying.

Plus, I added “Big Trouble in Little China” to my Netflix queue.

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by East Bay Ray on Jan 20, 2012 11:41 AM MST up reply actions  

best film of the 80's

kurt russell as a sarcastic truck driver who fights ninjas. epic.

Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."

~Jack Burton, "Big Trouble in Little China"

by u_must_chill on Jan 20, 2012 1:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Something tells me

that ‘Keiff wouldn’t take any shit from KG..

Faith Focus Finish

by b0rd3rline on Jan 20, 2012 1:51 PM MST up reply actions  

That’s cause
Markieff Morris is a BAAAAD MAN!

BAMF goes HAM.

by brian13 on Jan 20, 2012 2:45 PM MST up reply actions  

I AM SO PUMPED

I shall be in attendance tonight, proudly wearing my Suns shirt. A win would make me ever-so-happy. C’MON SUNS!!!

by Bostonian Suns Fan on Jan 20, 2012 4:03 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

And a Rec for you, Sir!

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 20, 2012 4:09 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

If Morris gets suspended for decking Garnett

he will be remembered as a hero along with Raja Bell.

borderline adequate

by waxmonkey on Jan 20, 2012 4:47 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Start Brown instead of Price please

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Jan 20, 2012 10:20 AM MST reply actions  

Good stuff, Ray..

To be sure, the Suns shuldn’t consider it easy just ‘cuz an opposing team’s best player is out…We’ve had a few of those games already which prove differently…

The battle cry tonight needs to be “Remember the Low Blow…”

BTW….Proud of JIm Bob…Doing BSOTS proud as always! Twenty years from now when all you guys are prime-time players, I’ll say I used to be on the same blog where it all began…We’ll probably have President Scott Howard invading all kinds of thrd-world countries…

Let's do this...!

by Daryl Ray on Jan 20, 2012 10:31 AM MST reply actions  

Alas, Sun God is dead...

Have to make a clean break to keep on the wagon…

I’m still a jackass, though…

Let's do this...!

by Daryl Ray on Jan 20, 2012 12:23 PM MST up reply actions  

OhPleaseGodNoScottHowardAsPOTUS!!!!!

Although…
If he nationalized the NBA, and took a few billion from the Pentagon budget for player’s salaries, and had the Joint Chiefs coach us and the Supreme Court referee the games…

No, it ain’t worth it.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 20, 2012 12:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Agree.

Paid for by the Committee Not to Elect Scott Howard as President….

Let's do this...!

by Daryl Ray on Jan 20, 2012 12:25 PM MST up reply actions  

I'd Vote for him

but I’m a disturbed and twisted individual.

by 2NASHTY on Jan 20, 2012 12:26 PM MST up reply actions  

2012 is a wide open field, but not that wide open...

Paid for by the Committee Not to Elect Scott Howard as President nor have 2NASHTY Vote for him….

Let's do this...!

by Daryl Ray on Jan 20, 2012 12:30 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm 2NASHTY and I suport Sco Ho for president

Paid for by by the coalition of deranged muhthuhfuhkas.

by 2NASHTY on Jan 20, 2012 12:37 PM MST up reply actions  

It's less of a coalition

and more of a grass roots movement.

Voted most likely to say "I told you so"

by jc79 on Jan 20, 2012 1:25 PM MST up reply actions  

That’s why I can’t coordinate with him.

by 2NASHTY on Jan 20, 2012 2:10 PM MST up reply actions  

My cabinet would be filled with members of the late 90's wrestling stable "NWO"

Is that not enough to convince you I’m the right choice? Scott Hall as Secretary of the Treasury? XPac as secretary of defense? Buff Bagwell as Secretary of State? Eh…eh???

No longer trying to light Vince Carter on fire.

by Scott Howard on Jan 20, 2012 1:59 PM MST up reply actions  

ya but

that’s why we don’t always listen to the things he says.

by 2NASHTY on Jan 20, 2012 1:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Exactly.

If I’m right I’m right.

No longer trying to light Vince Carter on fire.

by Scott Howard on Jan 20, 2012 2:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Rec

For Superballs. Great movie.

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 20, 2012 2:17 PM MST up reply actions  

How did you know

That is what I really meant

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 20, 2012 3:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh my

LOL my bad on that one. Oh geez

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 20, 2012 3:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Was some

Superfail on my fart

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 20, 2012 3:27 PM MST up reply actions  

chuckle

BAMF goes HAM.

by brian13 on Jan 20, 2012 3:46 PM MST up reply actions  

That's amazing

I have the same combination on my luggage. :)

by Sunderstruck on Jan 20, 2012 5:17 PM MST up reply actions  

What's the matter, Colonel Sandurz?

CHICKEN?

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Twitter: @EastBayRaymundo

by East Bay Ray on Jan 20, 2012 3:28 PM MST up reply actions  

I left my Schwartz

In the cereal box

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 20, 2012 3:30 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm surrounded by assholes!

Voted most likely to say "I told you so"

by jc79 on Jan 20, 2012 4:29 PM MST up reply actions  

KEEP FIRING!

SHANNON BROWN!!!!!

by 2NASHTY on Jan 20, 2012 4:31 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Rondo

Is expected to play tonight

by NashtyNash on Jan 20, 2012 10:42 AM MST reply actions  

So he says.

Thanks for the tip, I posted the update with link to Boston Globe.

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Twitter: @EastBayRaymundo

by East Bay Ray on Jan 20, 2012 10:58 AM MST up reply actions  

Ray Allen.....

…. would be a good fit on our team. It keeps us old, but he’s the perfect consistant long range guru that hustles the Suns need. Would Frye and Redd be a fair trade?

by Think about it on Jan 20, 2012 10:57 AM MST reply actions  

Ray Allen would be a good fit on any team.

Sort of comes with the territory of being one of the most accomplished shooters in the history of the game.

It was only called the mildly irritated house on McDowell until I showed up.

by Jim Coughenour on Jan 20, 2012 11:21 AM MST up reply actions  

1st all time in 3 point makes...

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by jc79 on Jan 20, 2012 1:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Exactly what I was going to say

What team couldn’t use a shooter like Ray.

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 20, 2012 1:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Suns vs Celts

SUNS need to play physical against Boston like they did in NY. I would even start Lopez and let him bruse up Garnet with a couple early hard fouls. Boston seems to have trouble with stamina late in games. If the SUNS can push the ball early it should pay off in the 4th qtr. And we cannot let Michael Pietrus have a carreer night. Need to put him in check. I’m sure he’ll be looking forward to this game. I say put Dudz on Allen and Hill on Pierce. GO SUNS!

by FourHorseman on Jan 20, 2012 10:59 AM MST reply actions  

MP

I really hope Pietrus doesn’t have a “you should of never let me go” revenge game as well. Why he didn’t excell in our system still baffles me. I guess he is just not that good and peaked in Orlando when they made it to the finals.

by Think about it on Jan 20, 2012 11:09 AM MST up reply actions  

never let me go?

He wanted OUT of there. He refused to travel or participate with them once the lockout was over. If Grant Hill gets the chance to guard him, I hope he shuts him down. It probably won’t be hard either.

Twitter: @FredLegittt

by modernage13 on Jan 20, 2012 12:32 PM MST up reply actions  

That's what I love about you, Nashty.

Everything.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 20, 2012 1:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Pretty much sums this up

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 20, 2012 1:56 PM MST up reply actions  

I hope he does have a revenge game

because I know what that would look like.

It would be Pietrus chucking 15 3-point bombs. He’ll be 3 for 10, and called for being out of bounds 5 times.

This I can live with.

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by jc79 on Jan 20, 2012 1:27 PM MST up reply actions  

like what you said about peaches

anyone but him, he will be looking to go off, and probably has greenlight. Same with Lopez on Garnett. Lopez could get under his skin easy, get him boiling. Even before the incident with Frye I hated Garnett, seems like there was something else, maybe with Amare, can’t remember???

by rdgroce on Jan 20, 2012 1:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh yeah

Amare vs. KG was one of the best PF matchups and KG would try to bait Amare with his dirty bag of tricks.

by oLLiE Boombayay on Jan 20, 2012 3:29 PM MST up reply actions  

And Amare would laugh in his face...

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by jc79 on Jan 20, 2012 4:29 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm looking forward to the game tonight.

The Celtics have so many likeable players such as the aforementioned KG

Garnett might be a future HOF-er, but he’s a punk for moves like that.

and former Suns fan favorite Mickael “the mad bomber” Pietrus (who dropped four threes on the Raptors Wednesday night).

I think that getting some high energy defensive intensity could be a key to the game. I would like to see Price out there for at least 10-15 minutes on Rondo, being as pesky and tenacious as possible – trying to get under his skin. Same for some of the other match ups, bring a constant all-out defensive assault.

This is a game where the Suns should need to have more energy than their opponent. I think that if the Suns are the more aggressive and engaged team, they win.

Thanks for the big ups, Ray.

It was only called the mildly irritated house on McDowell until I showed up.

by Jim Coughenour on Jan 20, 2012 11:19 AM MST reply actions  

i think this is going to be a great game. even if the suns play like garbage, the odds of a scuffle are very high.

so a W is preferred, but if I can’t get that, I’ll settle for Gortat knocking Garnett on his ass.

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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 20, 2012 11:59 AM MST up reply actions  

I prefer W.

But Rondo is expected to play.It will be tough game.

by roby07 on Jan 20, 2012 12:10 PM MST up reply actions  

A Robin clothesline of Cap' Craphead....

would do me just fine, win or lose…

Let's do this...!

by Daryl Ray on Jan 20, 2012 12:26 PM MST up reply actions  

punctuated with a stare down.

by 2NASHTY on Jan 20, 2012 12:29 PM MST up reply actions  

Fuck yeah!

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by jc79 on Jan 20, 2012 1:28 PM MST up reply actions  

a KG-fropez scuffle would be epic

garnett is a fake tough guy, but robin is for-real crazy. i can imagine him having to be tased to get him off KG in a fight

Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."

~Jack Burton, "Big Trouble in Little China"

by u_must_chill on Jan 20, 2012 1:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Doc Rivers had some very high praise for Nash

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/celtics/index.php/2012/01/19/doc-rivers-compares-steve-nash-tomuhammad-ali/

"I watched him last night when I got home and you laugh because he’s just destroying people," Rivers said. "Yesterday he put a clinic on in New York. That was an absolute clinic. When you factor in his age and the speed that he’s doing it at now, it’s laughable. It’s hard to guard because he’s so crafty."

Even Rondo had to give it up for Nash. Interesting to see the perception around the league, especially amongst the chorus of ‘trade him’ around here.

by Fritzy on Jan 20, 2012 12:11 PM MST reply actions  

This is what I am so desperately hoping for

He started out rough from the field/line but he is picking it up. Stay healthy Nash!

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 20, 2012 1:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Rivers

every time I hear his name I think back to Kevin Johson brawl in NY. What a great coach he turned out to be. Talk about teaching fundamentals, and getting the most out of players.

by rdgroce on Jan 20, 2012 1:56 PM MST up reply actions  

KJ>Rivers

Don’t forget the true punk ass in that brawl. Greg Anthony.

by oLLiE Boombayay on Jan 20, 2012 2:00 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Tom Thibideau>Rivers

I’ve talked to lifelong Celtics fans about Rivers and they never give him praise. Before the Celtics acquired Allen and KG he was in line to get fired. Now he is 2nd longest tenured coach. People change and get better at their jobs, but let’s see how well he does now that the East is strong and his HOFers don’t carry the team.

by oLLiE Boombayay on Jan 20, 2012 2:18 PM MST up reply actions  

yeah KJ and Rivers were going to mix it up

but Anthony was the real wiener, coming off the bench to punch a guy in the back of the head.

I will never forget that Pat Riley was in the middle of the brawl, trying to strangle someone with his suit jacket.

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by jc79 on Jan 20, 2012 2:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Haha missed that tidbit

I did discover from watching the Knicks broadcast that Riley had his pants ripped in the scuffle. The funniest part is how the toughest players didn’t really fight: Barkley, Ainge, Mason, Ewing, Oakley. Interesting factoid, Greg Anthony attempted to get back on the court in a different shirt after he was tossed to get a little payback, but was stopped by security.

Here’s the AZ broadcast. Sure to get Suns fans fired up for the fugly game tonight.

http://breadcity.org/2009/07/13/knicks-vs-suns-1993/

by oLLiE Boombayay on Jan 20, 2012 2:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Win

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 20, 2012 2:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Yup

Here’s the Greg Anthony part.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoPvTBX0FXA&t=4m10s

I get angry any time I see his ugly ass face on TV.

BAMF goes HAM.

by brian13 on Jan 20, 2012 3:31 PM MST up reply actions  

it's not unnatural. they're a bunch of assholes.

and so are their fans.

Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."

~Jack Burton, "Big Trouble in Little China"

by u_must_chill on Jan 20, 2012 1:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Roomates GF is a Celtics fan

This should be…. fun?

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 20, 2012 1:58 PM MST up reply actions  

It's a little late to mentioned this, but I wanted to say this on the Knicks thread...

I can’t help but think that if we never traded Dragic, that we would still have the Orlando 1st pick. We could have used that to get Shumpert, who seems to be playing better than Price or Telfair (so far). Not sure if he’s a better defender than price since I’ve only seen him play twice. So we could have had Morris and Shumpert AND Dragic who I would rather have than Telfair any day, and doesn’t sign contracts to go to a different country…he was this one guy that used to be good but then got injured. Sad days for us.

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by modernage13 on Jan 20, 2012 12:44 PM MST reply actions  

You are assuming...

Suns draft well. Not worth agonizing over because they have sucked in the draft ever since Sarver became owner. Hopefully Morris is a sign they are turning a corner.

The Suns passed on Deandre Jordan in favor of a college backup Lopez when everybody thought they would take Jordan because “he had a bad workout.”

by oLLiE Boombayay on Jan 20, 2012 1:12 PM MST up reply actions  

It is pretty safe to say

The Suns WOULD have drafted Shumpert if they had the opportunity.

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Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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by Airwave on Jan 20, 2012 1:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Tough call

Because logic would say that Suns would have drafted a backup PG years ago and groomed him to start, but they never did. Also if they were high Shumpert why not draft him at #14? It’s only 3 spots difference. The true steal of the draft thus far is Norris Cole.

Shumpert does look solid though. After missing out on Curry and Rubio, the Knicks finally drafted a quality PG.

by oLLiE Boombayay on Jan 20, 2012 2:08 PM MST up reply actions  

True

But they wanted Shumpert probably more than everyone other than Morris. I have yet to see Norris Cole play.

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Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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by Airwave on Jan 20, 2012 2:19 PM MST up reply actions  

He's pretty good for a late 1st rounder

Sometimes a good draft pick is just picking a player who can fit in.

Marshon Brooks is getting a chance to shine so he is probably the best draft pick so far.

by oLLiE Boombayay on Jan 20, 2012 2:41 PM MST up reply actions  

I liked him

Brooks that is. He did really well against us.

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by Airwave on Jan 20, 2012 2:46 PM MST up reply actions  

trade Nash

For Shumpert and Fields. Come on Mike D make it happen!

by oLLiE Boombayay on Jan 20, 2012 2:52 PM MST up reply actions  

That would be great for us, lol

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Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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by Airwave on Jan 20, 2012 2:56 PM MST up reply actions  

I hate Norris Cole

Dude already has an ego and goes on ball hog Kobe mode sometimes. Then again, that probably automatically happens when you’re in the Heat roster with LeBron mentoring you.

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by modernage13 on Jan 20, 2012 11:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Or MarShon Brooks

Dragic trade keeps looking better and better

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Jan 20, 2012 1:14 PM MST up reply actions  

If we had Dragic still

I’m guessing we wouldn’t have drafted another PG…

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by jc79 on Jan 20, 2012 1:29 PM MST up reply actions  

Shumpert was drafted at #17

The pick we traded was #23.

BAMF goes HAM.

by brian13 on Jan 20, 2012 3:37 PM MST up reply actions  

I am feeling the Price start

I get what gentry is doing. Yeah why not let someone else chase after the the speedsters on every team. If we could clone Hill we would. But since we can’t price is the perfect little pesky defensive compliment to Nash. I want Rondo to play so we can get the true results of our rotation changes.

I say bring Frye and Lopez in to make the hard fouls when needed.

by Wolf Make-Shift on Jan 20, 2012 12:50 PM MST reply actions  

Rondo will play

It was a bad fall, but having an aching wrist doesn’t keep you from stat padding assists or gambling on steals. Plus you gotta factor in that PGs always get amped to play against Nash.

Garnett is the dirtiest player of his generation. His favorite move is to give you a cheap shot in the back or stomach when you’ve already beaten the team for a layup or dunk because the ref rarely calls a foul at this moment. If you’ve ever see him live you will see twice as many dirty plays as on TV. He tries to act tough, but really is just a sucker punch artist.

by oLLiE Boombayay on Jan 20, 2012 1:07 PM MST reply actions  

Plus

They are struggling and the team is trying to pick up wins. Thus, Rondo is a gamer and will play.

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Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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by Airwave on Jan 20, 2012 1:59 PM MST up reply actions  

W, please

I like the new starting rotation. Steve – Mr Offensive Efficiency of All Time – will conserve energy and destroy these fools. Nice to see Channing is starting to shoot better. I like Morris on KG but he’ll probably get some quick cheap fouls. Then we sic Frolo on him. We need Grant to make come early shots. Oh, I’m a little too excited.
Gooo you Suns!

by Van2010 on Jan 20, 2012 1:41 PM MST reply actions  

im not going to lie, i really want Garnett to get beat up in this one. No hopes for injuries that would damage my karma or anything, but the Suns need to straight up smack him around.

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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 20, 2012 1:55 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Ahhhh

Please win so I can rub this in to my roomate hahahahaha, Losing to the Lakers was rough so we gotta beat the Celts tonight.

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 20, 2012 2:07 PM MST reply actions  

Morris

I like seeing the post plays for him, hope there is more tonight. Even if he isn’t real effective, at least get him more accustomed to the paint, then second option at the three

by rdgroce on Jan 20, 2012 2:08 PM MST reply actions  

We will be watching

Back to the future tonight.

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 20, 2012 2:19 PM MST up reply actions  

What a coincidence...

Just like ’99 the Suns will not have an All-Star this season.

by oLLiE Boombayay on Jan 20, 2012 3:00 PM MST up reply actions  

not true

Nash & Gortat will be All-Star, u do see that, right?

by rdgroce on Jan 20, 2012 3:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Not seeing it

Coaches vote for reserves so you never know. Plus there are injuries. If I had to bet money I would bet against a Sun making All-Star team. Certainly the fans aren’t voting them in.

by oLLiE Boombayay on Jan 20, 2012 4:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Nash will make it this year

Who’s going for the west for guards? Kobe and CP3 will start. Backup choices are Russell Westbrook and Steve Nash.

At least one other still needs to be chosen.. but who? Kevin Martin (not shooting well), Eric Gordon (after missing a month of a short season), Kyle Lowry, Tony Parker, Ricky Rubio, Ty Lawson, Steph Curry, Monta Ellis (shooting horribly)?

Ginobili will still be injured and Deron Williams switched to the east. If Nash stays healthy, he’ll be in.

BAMF goes HAM.

by brian13 on Jan 20, 2012 4:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Rubio has more votes than Nash

Even Clippers were clapping for him tonight. Let’s hope his sucky 3 quarters will change people’s minds.

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by modernage13 on Jan 21, 2012 12:27 AM MST up reply actions  

I hate to be "that guy"

But there wasn’t an All-Star game in 1999……lockout.

OK I was kidding…I love to be “that guy”

No longer trying to light Vince Carter on fire.

by Scott Howard on Jan 20, 2012 3:13 PM MST up reply actions  

You are the very definition of "that guy".

Mr. President.

Sir.

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"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 20, 2012 4:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Really?

I mean we had a lockout this year and they still stuffed an All-Star game in there.

Well then… let us enjoy the first ever 1999 All-Star game!

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by jc79 on Jan 20, 2012 4:26 PM MST up reply actions  

6 from the 2005 All-Star Game

would have been 7 but Redd made it in 2004.

BAMF goes HAM.

by brian13 on Jan 20, 2012 3:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Let's get this win!

Hopefully, Steve Nash (21.8 PPG, 11.3 APG, 63% FG, 66.7% 3P over the last 4) and Marcin Gortat (16.5 PPG, 12.3 RPG, 1.5 BPG over the last 6) can continue the trends, Grant can play like the BAMF he was last game, and Frye can play like Channing and not Chandler.

Also, nice job Jim. I love that you threw conbuilding into the radio interview.. great use of BSOTS jargon.

BAMF goes HAM.

by brian13 on Jan 20, 2012 3:13 PM MST reply actions  

I remember Boston

That victory was as sweet as the pie the town was named after.

by Sunderstruck on Jan 20, 2012 3:19 PM MST reply actions  

I predict Dudz finds his stroke tonight, and pumps in...27.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 20, 2012 4:10 PM MST reply actions  

that

would be wicked Awesome ( in good will hunting accent)

by 2NASHTY on Jan 20, 2012 4:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Jim, you sound far less curmudgeonly than I thought you would

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Jan 20, 2012 4:29 PM MST reply actions  

I was at that game last year.

Lotta celtic fans there including my gf who bought me the tickets for x-mas. When KG sack tapped frye one of the celtic fans shouted “but it was all ball”. Not bad..

Insert epic quote here: "I got nothin'"

by The_Knife on Jan 20, 2012 4:57 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

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