Lopez To Test Value On Open Market... Yikes!
An article just posted at the Arizona Repugnant details the contract status of Robin Lopez. In the article, Lon Babby is quoted:
I am not sure which way to take that. Does this mean Babby isn't interested in locking up Lopez at all, or does it mean they want to do a deal, but for a reasonable amount?"We have talked to see if there was any common ground worth pursuing and I'd say it's unlikely at this time," Babby said. "It's been a completely amicable process. There really isn't any basis for doing a deal and we'll look at it again in the summer."
In any case, I think some of the points in the article are worth noting.
First, I am not sure it is such a great idea that Babby is discussing contract extensions [or lack of them] with the media. Let's face it, Lopez's time with Phoenix is quickly running out. There are only a few ways this can go:
A] He improves his play, does really well and he will get offers in restricted free agency we are not willing to match.
B] He improves his play, does really well and we leverage him in a trade to obtain players/picks.
3] He plays well enough to entice someone to inquire about him and we trade him at the deadline
C] He continues to play as he is currently, we look to dump him at the deadline.
D] He continues as now and we let him go to RFA and do not match anyone's offer sheet
5] His hair spontaneously combusts
In any case, i think it is highly unlikely he is in PHX much longer. Babby said as much. the funny thing is that I believe it is a mistake to say that. It would be in the Suns best interest to lie through their teeth and say how much they love Lopez and how valuable he is to this franchise. How else are you going to leverage any value out of trades for him? Telling the entire league that you aren't really interested in re-signing Lopez means they will all be on a bargain hunt.
The article also suggests that Lopez is interested in seeing what his value is on the open market. Obviously someone is going to overpay a 7 footer, so he ultimately will get offers in the 4 year 4-6M range, which I don't believe the Suns should mess with.
He is worth $1-2M over 3 years, with 2 guaranteed and a team option for the third - AT BEST. Lou Amundson was far more consistently effective than Lopez, despite being 5" shorter. He was a far superior defender, rebounder and wasn't that far behind Lopez offensively.
All-in-all, enjoy Lopez for the next two months, because at the trade deadline, he is all but a goner!
And welcome to our new 2nd round draft pick.
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I agree 100% with you , for whatever reason Lopez just can’t be consistent with us maybe a change of scenery will do him good. you never show your hand , but in their defense I think everybody and they momma knows we ain’t paying Lopez ish … I remember when they were talking bout Lopez for maynor and I thought we were crazy what a steal it would have been
And Thats Real!!
by MrSunsRealDeal on Jan 24, 2012 1:26 PM MST via mobile reply actions
The nets didn't offer Brook a contract either...
Maybe we could snag Brook instead. In my opinion, we should just have a rotation of Gortat, Morris, and Frye down low. The fro, hak, and chillz should be sent off for a casserole.
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by Snowbird on Jan 24, 2012 1:28 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
Both suck.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
Babby did not handle that well
You have to be a little more savvy then that. Seven footers are valuable trade chips. Don’t show your cards before the hand is over.
by oLLiE Boombayay on Jan 24, 2012 1:41 PM MST reply actions
Maybe..
They are trying to light a fire under his butt to see if he will respond and play better? I don’t know…
We all know that he has never been the same Lopez since that injury though for whatever reason.
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I think it is too late for that
He already had that abysmal season last year and now he is being buried on the bench again. Something is not right here.
"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!
Try to get something for him
I don’t see bringing him back as a huge priority since we have Marcin who already takes most of the minutes. If the price is right, sure, but otherwise don’t bring him back.
"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!
And Gortat could NEVER get hurt, right?
"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."
For the price Lopez will most likely be getting
They can find a cheaper option.
"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!
Wow Babby
granted Lopez isn’t the player we all expected and wanted him to be but he’s a decent back up. cant imagine signing a better one anytime soon. and wouldn’t really want to given the minutes and productivity from Gortat.
All very good points about lopez and his inconsistencies. I think babby probably shouldn’t have talked openly to the media about this.
As someone said above, it can only diminish his trade value(even lower than it is now,if that’s even possible. My biggest concern is that we"ll let lopez walk in free agency with out getting anything in return. There has to be some potential trade scenario that"ll work for both the suns and whoever wants lopez.
It wouldn’t be a wise decision to get rid of lopez with nothing in return, even though he’s injury prone and terribly inconsistent, he’s our only legitimate backup to gortat. I’d really hate to see channing as the backup center again!
The question we really have to ask ourselves is What teams are desperate enough to trade for lopez and what could we get in return?
Some trade scenarios we might consider
Lopez to the bobcats for either dj augustine or bismack biyombo.
Augustine might be available because of his injury and kemba’s improved play. He could be a solid starting pointguard for us with his ability to score and pass.
Biyombo is an intriguing talent, he’s had a pretty disappointing season so far, but his defensive potential and athleticism are top notch. If we did move frye to the backup center position (assuming this trade scenario happens) biyombo would be a pretty good backup to markieff.
Lopez to the warriors for either brandon rush or klay thompson. The suns were high on both of these players before they were drafted.
Rush offers more from a defensive standpoint, while klay still has alot of potential as a pure scorer with a very soft shooting stroke.
Thompson has struggled as a rookie but could excell spotting up and waiting for the assist from nash. He’s also a very good free throw shooter, which is kind of a lost art now days.
Lopez for bayless or james johnson. Bayless doesn’t really have pointguard skills right now and is an undersized combo guard(albeit with tremendous athleticism and scoring potential) but could become an all-star guard for us under nash’s tutelage.
He may be a worthy gamble for the suns in a lopez trade. I remeber when the suns eventually drafted earl clark, they had a hard time choosing between him and johnson. Johnson could eventually take hill’s spot at small forward when he retires.
Lopez to the wizards for chris singleton and shelvin mack.
Singleton would provide excellent defense and athleticism at the small forward position as a potential replacement for hill.He’s not getting as much time in the wizard’s rotation as trevor booker(an amundson clone) right now, we may be able to snatch him up along with shelvin mack.
Mack resembles a bulldog physically and really abuses the man he’s guarding using his impressive strength. He’s also a good spot up shooter that could provide another perimeter threat for us on the break.
This is my opinion on getting Bayless
REJECTED! GIMME DAT SHIT!
But srsly…. Don’t want Bayless. Hard to see a team giving up on a 1st round draft pick in their rookie season (Biyombo) for a backup center with consistency/health concerns.
"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!
Forgot to include
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA9AjSnXK24
"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!
Augustine would be nice for the Suns IF the Bobcats would agree to trade him for Lopez
But I doubt they’d settle for just Lopez. Singleton would also be nice but I think Gentry will make him shoot jumpshots and 3’s just like Childress.
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warriors tarde is the only one that truley intrigues.
is there no way we could work a deal with the grizzlies for mayo. mayo for rolo and a 2nd rnd pick. hell id even take back a bad contract from them since we wont be signing any good free agents
"Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose"
What value?
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
Because Bobcats wanna trade Diaw
because hes fat. I think we can get in on him. Diaw can be a sun once again and we could also get D.J. Augustine, who is a great player and could be a really really good PG off the bench
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=832rz5l
With this, our rotation would be
Nash/D.J./Price
Brown/Redd (either one can start)
Hill/Duds
Morris/Frye(or Diaw)
Gortat/Diaw (or Frye)
"Nash is 25 and Hill is 27. It doesn't matter what it says in their birth certificates. Lies, all lies."-Scott Howard Cooper, NBA.com
Plus he has expiring contract
"Nash is 25 and Hill is 27. It doesn't matter what it says in their birth certificates. Lies, all lies."-Scott Howard Cooper, NBA.com
Don't think the Bobcats are gonna do that
maybe this?
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7z4oqw5
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Bobcats
don’t like Diaw right now, they think he’s too fat, slow, and all around unconditioned. I think Lopez for Diaw straight up would work
"Nash is 25 and Hill is 27. It doesn't matter what it says in their birth certificates. Lies, all lies."-Scott Howard Cooper, NBA.com
besides the salary though
"Nash is 25 and Hill is 27. It doesn't matter what it says in their birth certificates. Lies, all lies."-Scott Howard Cooper, NBA.com
Done.
No longer trying to light Vince Carter on fire.
by Scott Howard on Jan 25, 2012 10:03 AM MST up reply actions
The bobcats really only have one center right now giving them productive minutes in bj mullens. Diop is still a project, they might view lopez as a potential upgrade at that position.
The bobcats also have a logjam at power forward, and even though biyombo was a lottery pick, he has had an up and down season so far and the bobcats might be intrigued by lopez’s size,aggressiveness and potential.
Most gm’s would take a young, playoff tested bigman over a raw but athletic rookie given the choice. Lopez would give them another “true Center”. They don’t necessarily need biyombo, they already have tyrus thomas, boris diaw and dj white at the four spot.
They’d have a greater need for lopez instead of trying to play the 6-9 biyombo at center. I wouldn’t want diaw back(aside from his expiring contract) he"ll only help us to be good enough to barely miss the playoffs and we"ll be stuck with the thirteenth or fourteenth pick again, instead of a pick in the top 10.
The money we could potentially use this off-season by aquiring diaw would be very tempting but with the way we’re playing now, i can’t see any star free agent accepting any offer we’d give them when they could take less money to play for a contender.
We can still get young talent in a trade using lopez, we just have to put the right spin on it when our front office makes the phone call.
If we can get Biyombo for Lopez I'll sing the hallelujah chorus
but I don’t think there’s any chance of it.
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he lied about his age
he was really only 16 entering the league
"Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose"
I consider him to still be a project (even though he’s been in the league a very long time) due to his career averages of 2points 3rebounds and 1block per game. He’s athletic and a strong post defender, but he should be producing at a much higher rate for what he’s getting payed and considering that he’s a former lottery pick.
Lopez may be a headcase but when he does play,he has the ability to provide some offense to go with his defensive game(however limited it may be right now). One of the reasons the bobcats migth consider this trade is for the reasons i stated above.
Craziness and inconsistent play aside, lopez has playoff experience at a position where the bobcats are extremely raw and inexperienced at. He also is still fairly young at twenty three years of age and has shown glimpses of high scoring and rebounding potential, a change of scenery might help him finally find that consistency in his game and become better than he currently is now.
Certainly more polished and a better overall player than diop.
Where’s the option for let him bump an official like a dumbass, get ejected, get suspended for five games, and kill any shred of trade value that he had leading us to deal him for a 2nd round pick because of his attitude and distraction on the team?
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jan 25, 2012 12:59 PM MST reply actions

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