Phoenix Suns Trade Suggestion: Robin Lopez For One Of "Houston 4"?
by Alex Laugan on Jan 26, 2012 7:26 AM MST
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PrintThere is a lot of speculation on what will happen to Robin Lopez in the next few months. Rather than create an open dialogue on a hundred different possibilities, I thought I would narrow it down to one particular, realistic scenario for us to consider in this article.
I know we Suns fans are holding out for a better deal (Houston's Courtney Lee maybe, or Memphis' OJ Mayo, or just a late #1 pick), but today I just wanted to find out which of the "Houston 4" you'd want if we had no other offers and had to choose one.
The Suns have a recent history of being able to work with the Houston Rockets. Last year's trade was a bust for the Suns - Goran Dragic and a late #1 for Aaron Brooks - but at least we know the two teams can work together.
We are not here to talk about that trade. Really, we're not. We are here today to talk about trading Robin Lopez for one of the "Houston 4" - four lottery picks from the 2009 draft who were just told yesterday that they would be unrestricted free agents this summer. These are all young guys with talent who just couldn't make their careers happen yet. Kinda like Robin Lopez.
I know there are potentially other, better trades out there for Lopez. But you have to understand that the better the trade is for the Suns standpoint, the less likely it's going to happen. It's most likely that the best the Suns can do with Lopez is to trade him for a 2-month trial on someone else who, if they play well, the Suns would own that player's Bird Rights and would have recent familiarity with their "fit". At worst, the Suns still get the cap space this summer.
Hit the jump for a rundown of each of the 4, and then vote on your fave.
2009 #2 overall pick (by Memphis): Hasheem Thabeet
Measurements: 7'3", 263 lbs. Age 24. Shot-blocking machine who, in limited minutes, has shown the ability to block shots and rebound the ball. His problem is his motor, and probably his basketball IQ. He has poor instincts on both ends of the floor and is foul-prone. No post game. Houston is DESPERATE for a C, yet Thabeet gets zero playing time. And this for 2 different coaches (Adelman and McHale). Only appeared in 2 games this season.
2009 #6 overall pick (by Minnesota): Jonny Flynn
Measurements: 6'0", 185 lbs. Age 22. Quick, reputation for pick-and-roll ballhandling, but more of a shoot-first PG with poor decision-making. Does not draw contact, poor shooter, poor finisher. Terrible defensive player due to his lack size and strength. Graduated college with a great shot-making resume, but obviously has not translated to the NBA. When he was drafted, all I think could think of was Acie Law. While he profiles like Aaron Brooks, he's not even close in NBA talent.
2009 #8 overall pick (by NY Knicks): Jordan Hill
Measurements: 6'10", 235 lbs. Age 24. Was a star at U of A and considered a potential steal by New York - then eventually traded to Houston in a package for Tracy McGrady's expiring contract. Hill is has been a part-time starter for Houston this year, though Sam Dalembert is going to take that spot any time now. Lacks strength and ball skills. Softer than he looks. Poor defensive player, poor production in his minutes, but can block a few shots (while fouling like crazy). The only power forward worse than Hill last year in +/- numbers? Hakim Warrick. Ugh.
2009 #11 overall pick (by NJ Nets): Terrence Williams
Measurements: 6'6", 235 lbs. Age 24. Probably the best overall set of basketball skills in the bunch. He's very athletic, can create shots for others, rebounds well for a shooting guard. Can do a little of everything on the court. However, he can't make shots with consistency in the NBA and is turnover-prone. And worst of all, he has shown an uncoachable attitude, getting stuck to the end of the bench in each of his stops.
All of these guys are young and talented, but every one has disappointed his current team. There's a chance that another new environment would allow them to flourish, but there's also the chance that the Suns would just let them walk at the end of the year the way Houston wants to. And that means we got nothing for Lopez.
Footnote: everyone praised Houston GM Daryl Morey for stockpiling young talent. Well, most of that young talent is being simply let go for nothing this summer. The four above, plus Courtney Lee and Goran Dragic. All acquired through trade. All young and talented. All gone for nothing.
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I m pretty sure Dalembert is more than serviceable as a center
Especially this year.
A void? I see no void!
How about none of the above.
I would like to see the Suns make a package of players including Lopez. Maybe by luck someone will take Chilly. But to beat a dead horse, this team needs a house cleaning.
What's the point?
I’m tired of all these junk for junk moves.
Figure out a deal for Marcus Morris and I might get interested.
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by suns68 on Jan 26, 2012 8:29 AM MST via mobile reply actions
Yeah, bring the twins back together
@jatrex
is the Phoenix about to rise after burning or the ashes has been blown away
by jatrex4suns on Jan 26, 2012 8:44 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
but you can’t hold out endless hope for a junk-for-treasure move, either
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Unless ...
Unless it’s our treasure for someone else’s junk, right? We’ve seen more than our share of that sort of junk-for-treasure move in the past.
I just hope if Phoenix trades them Lopez
for Thabeet, the Suns don’t throw in a first round pick.
It was only called the mildly irritated house on McDowell until I showed up.
by Jim Coughenour on Jan 26, 2012 8:47 PM MST up reply actions
I've seen better sell jobs. None of the above.
How about Lopez for dragic? He he.
Yeah, anyway- none of these are worth it. If these are our choices, we should just let robin walk this summer if we won’t re-sign for $3-4m for 3 years.
Grant Hill for prez.
by sun-arc on Jan 26, 2012 8:38 AM MST via mobile reply actions
I’m not exactly trying to sell anyone on any of these guys. I do think that’s the Lopez market though.
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could be…I think he’s done more than any of those guys in his stretch as a starter but at this point, his value is poop
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 26, 2012 1:33 PM MST up reply actions
Great post that also points out how much of a crap shoot the NBA draft is….
For every Rajon Rondo or Tony Parkers there’s ten’s of ten’s of guys like this. Take note of that point, those of who who want to rebuild through the draft. It’s a long and lonely process filled that takes a rare combination of incredible luck and incredible skill.
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 26, 2012 8:47 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
And incredible stupidity of team that sell off all the picks
Like us. Weve helped setup alot of teams with great players
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by phxpurple on Jan 26, 2012 9:09 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
uh, you just said the opposite of Seth.
Seth was calling the draft the crapshoot; that for every gem there’s 10 duds. And that was D’Antoni’s thinking when he said he didn’t want a low first-rounder in lieu of a proven journeyman on the end the bench.
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uhhh no Im pretty sure I had it right
I was agreeing with Seth. to add on with what he said about what you need, luck and skill, you also need dumbass teams to give you their picks…..we were that dumbass team.
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excactly, phxpurple
but sssshhhhhhh…don’t tell Alex or Seth they’re wrong, because they obviously get everything right and poop on the only thing good about this blog…rosterbation.
How about we trade Alex and Seth for any other SBN NBA blogger?
I like turtles
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by phxpurple on Jan 26, 2012 2:33 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
deal
I’ll got to Miami…or OKC…or Minneapolis!
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 26, 2012 4:58 PM MST up reply actions
Wouldn't a struggling team be better?
Do other teams have as active a fan site? Seems like everyone else has comments that in low 30s, not 100s like here.
Maybe you can adopt the fan page for a struggling team?
It is crazy
I notice that bsots has one of the more active sbnation communities. Lost of ghost readers too. Awesome
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by phxpurple on Jan 26, 2012 5:55 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
I call BS
In every draft, there are only a couple of stars. But there are only a couple of duds. Everyone one in this group came from the 2009 draft, and the quality players still outweigh the duds. Let’s take it as a sample:
1 Superstar (Blake Superior)
4 Stars (James Harden, Tyreke Evans, Ricky Rubio, Stephen Curry)
7 Starters (Demar Derozen, Brandon Jennings, Gerald Henderson, Jeff Teague, Jrue Holliday, Ty Lawson, Darren Collinson)
8 Sixth Men/Quality Rotation Players (Austin Daye, James Johnson, Tyler Hansbrough, Eric Maynor, Omri Casspi, Roddy Beubois, Taj Gibson, Byron Mullens)
5 Lower Quality Rotation Players (Terrence Williams, Earl Clark, Demarre Carrol, Toney Douglas, Wayne Ellington)
5 Duds (Hasheem Thabeet, Jordan Hill, Johnny Flynn, Victor Claver, Christian Eyenga)
I count 12 players that a team could build around, mostly taken in the top twenty. Everyone in the 20+ range obviously had too good of a record to be rebuilding . . so there’s a 57 percent chance of getting a building block? Oh god, how awful.
Even adding the lower quality rotation players and duds together, 20 of the 30 picks were quality . . . you severely underrate the draft. As did D’Antoni
by UASun on Jan 26, 2012 10:11 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
this was one of the better drafts and I totally disagree that you can “build around” more than one or two of those guys. Three years in how many of them will be on the All-Star team?
There’s five really good players and a handful of decent players and then a lot of average players that you can always get.
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 26, 2012 1:37 PM MST up reply actions
?
The top four you can build around. I think his definition of that term is not that of just a Blake Griffin caliber. You lock up a center like Gortat and you build around him. You trade for Kevin Johnson and you build around him. That my include bringing in someone that is better, but it’s still building around an above average, borderline star. You don’t have to sign the phenom first to make your team attractive to other top tier players.
That's issue
Do you draft a solid guy, or do you take a risk on a TWIll, or an Eddie Griffin – guys with talent but long odds of making it.
Heck, Beasley has been woeful the last few years, and he looked “can’t miss”.
The draft is a crapshoot, and one where “losing” can often be a better bet than “winning”, e.g. you are better off losing on a potential guy like Earl Clark than winning on a boring rotation player like Tyler Hansbrough or Eric Maynor, who will never be stars.
Ricky rubio
Good but overated. You have him over ty lawson and jennings who are better than him and have to do more. And ty lawsons team is doing way better. People will figure rubio out. Cover everybody and make him shoot
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by phxpurple on Jan 26, 2012 2:36 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
¿Que?
Lawson and Jennings are not even in the same conversation with this kid, get outta here with that nonsense. I’ve been following the Wolves since last season and what he (and Adelman) made out of that collection of garbage time all-stars and Kevin Love is unbeliavable.
We’re talking about a guy who’s 21 yet has been playing pro ball since he was 14, this is a kid that plays with the poise of a veteran and yet still has oodles of potential.
His shooting is passable (nowhere near the turribleness of Rondo’s first seasons, or Kidd’s) and it’s not like he’s missing gimmes (most of those are bailout fadeaways and layups) or shotjacking posting 4-21 ala. Jennings. Other than that he does everything you’d want from your PG, rebounds, steals, plays great D, can create for himself and others, runs the halfcourt offense and can run a fast break too, shoots FT at a high clip, yadda yadda yadda… And obviously there’s his unreal passing ability. Those 3 games he had where he shot horribly, they won one and he still made huge impact. When Jennings or (to a much smaller degree) Lawson are off, that’s it for them. He’s shooting horribly over the last 6 games yet the Wolves won 4 of them, actually, he won those 4 games for them.
Anyway, in a testament to his ridiculousness, he’s had friggin’ Lebron and Wade guarding (and doubling!) him in his third NBA game and showed no fear whatsoever and played his game. Dude is a trooper and the Wolves are lucky to have him.
Yea and every point guard has killed his ass
Dudes weighs less than an thai anorexic supermodel. He gets ate up by oppsing pgs and all his positibrs get negated by his wrak D. Thats why despite all the fancyness in sota they still suck. Not as much ass us but ive seen pgs do more with less talent around them(nash)
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by phxpurple on Jan 26, 2012 4:43 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Rubio is definitely better than Jennings and probably Lawson. Lawson’s doing well this year but Rubio is the real deal. He looks like he could average a triple double one day the way he is going. He gets like 6 rebds a game.
by BringBackBarkley17 on Jan 26, 2012 5:35 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, but
If you can stockpile picks, you increase your odds of hitting the lottery.
That’s why I’m in favor of picks for Lopez
Free Steve Nash!
And who would give us a pick?
We’d all LOVE a 1st rounder, but no one’s going to offer that. No one.
Jonny Flynn
I watched him a lot at Syracuse and he’s never been a great shooter, but was a very good penetrator and finisher at the rim. When the defense collapsed he could kick it out to one of several very good 3 point shooters the Orange had, which is sort of the way this Suns team is structured. When Jonny got drafted by the Wolves they threw him into the Triangle which even handicapped Jason Kidd as a point guard and I think hurt Flynn’s development. I’m not saying he would be good, but I think he might be the best of the options and certainly has at least as much potentially as Bassy.
I really liked Jonny at Syracuse.
But he’s just not a good NBA player. You’re right about him playing in a bad system, but the problems he had there will translate to every other system as well. Perhaps he could be as good as Bassy. Why would we want two of him?
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I'd rather sign Ben Uzoh from the D League
Player of the week and a good defender.
Or Blake Ahearn.
We’d have the best FT shooting PG duo in basketball history.
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Ahearn would be good as well
At least he CAN shoot threes this year. Never got why we didn’t give him a chance. 3 point shooter plays questionable D? Screams suns.
Good passer to.
Plus he’s a MVC alum. That’s always a plus in my book.
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no way
might as well hold on until the deadline when more injuries happen. plus trading him without getting another center in return effs us over big. and if we get another crappy center then what was the point? only a draft pick or a package that nets us a starter 2 3 or 4 is acceptable
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btw whats the word of the street ,if any, of potential FO moves
I mean legit moves not just rosterbation. Its seems like were the only team with major personnel needs and money and that isnt openly going after guys and putting guys on the block. the pacers on the other hand are making moves trying to go after Mayo and publicly expressing major interest in going after Gordon. Are we just going to sit back and let the nerd ask the cutest girl to dance at prom? We got be more active and turn some stones.
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sure but I don’t know that ‘active’ and ‘leaks to media’ are the same thing. Suns have been really tight-lipped lately. We had no wind of any in-season trades or signings until they happened (Gortat, Brooks, Redd).
I’m not saying the Suns FO is being active. I have no idea. I’m just skeptical of media in general. Media make up a lot of stuff and/or they rely on a source that’s giving them info out of context because it’s juicy. that’s all I mean.
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by Alex Laugan on Jan 26, 2012 10:48 AM MST up reply actions
Example: “the Knicks are interested in Dwight Howard”
well no kidding. Some guy who works with the Knicks probably heard some other guy closer who works a little closer to the GM who speculated that it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world to have Dwight Howard on their team, especially right after a few bad losses. Then the media guy looks up the handy-dandy trade machine as realizes there’s only 3 big contracts on the entire Knicks roster (literally, everyone not named Amare, Melo and Tyson makes diddly), so two of them (their incumbent C has to be 1 of them) have to be packaged to get Dwight under the current salary cap rules.
and BOOM – “Knicks want Dwight for Amare and Tyson!”
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by Alex Laugan on Jan 26, 2012 10:53 AM MST up reply actions
Damn, well we could at least try a little harder.
They wont even openly say they wanna trade lopez, just stalling for idk what. Maybe something big? Maybe they just have no negotiation skills. Idk if we have the skills to eben pull off a trade for a houston 4 guy without getting ripped off like last year with our 1st rd pick. I think some said we could have gotten norris cole…..man
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by phxpurple on Jan 26, 2012 2:46 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
What does publically saying it help?
I’m sure every GM in the league calls every other team at least monthly.
I bet every call tho Phoenix starts with “How about a packet of chips and some ketchup for RoLo?”
Except in America
chips come in bags and ketchup comes in packets (or bottles) and not very many people enjoy that combination… (unless by chips you mean fries, but they still wouldn’t come in packets)
So I’m pretty sure the conversation doesn’t go EXACTLY like that even though you’ve probably captured the overall tone.
It was only called the mildly irritated house on McDowell until I showed up.
by Jim Coughenour on Jan 26, 2012 8:43 PM MST up reply actions
Exactly
Which is what I reckon every team thinks Lopez is worth!
Good job, Alex.
This is definitely a good list of possibly trade candidates the Suns could get by trading Lopez. Not sure I’m sold on any of the guys, but you have to be realistic and this is currently about what Lopez is worth.
That being said, I really wouldn’t be against trading Lopez for any of these guys. I actually like Lopez a lot, but I don’t think there’s anyway he can succeed here. He needs a change of scenery. I don’t think we’d be any worse with one of these guys, and who knows, one could actually turn out to be good here. Worst case scenario, we’re in the same exact spot this offseason, so there’s no risk really.
I would prefer though to find someone that has only been with one team, but contact wise is in the same situation. Sometimes young players just struggle in certain situations but they go somewhere else and find success, which I believe will happen with Lopez. All these Houston guys have already received their second chance and haven’t really gotten better.
Hmm...
I really liked Terrence Williams early on. He’s a tremendous athlete with excellent size and is a good playmaker form the wing. But his IQ is so low it makes it nearly impossible for him to utilize those gifts positively. I might be willing to give him a shot and see what he can do, considering our other wing options and our back-up PGs.
Jordan Hill would leave us in about the same spot as keeping Robin.
The other 2 are terrible.
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They all have a lot of untapped potential and maybe houston just isn’t right for any of them. I thought i read an article last season where the suns mentioned having interest in flynn, so he may be a possibility.
If i had to choose though, i’d take thabeet or terrence williams. I like jordan hill also, it’s just that we’d have a need for a backup to gortat a little bit more and williams(despite his issues is very athletic,strong,tough and could be an elite perimeter defender for us off the bench.
If we took thabeet, we’d need to send him to hakeem’s camp and see if anything could be done to improve his game quickly. We’d also need to find a better bigman coach than cartwright to help his development.
All i’d want from thabeet is for him to focus entirely on blocking or intimidating every shot and then boxing out and using his superior length to grab boards. He needs to be taught how to take advantage of his physical gifts which obviously wasn’t taught to him by the coaching staff in houston.
I would use the same approach with terrence jones(maybe make him majerle’s project as majerle had a similiar build and was considered one of the better defensive big guards when he played) i’d want him to put all his effort to shutting down whoever he’s told to guard on the perimeter.
Using his great physical profile and versatility to help the suns become much stronger on defense in the backcourt(maybe partner him with hill so he can learn to reign in his attitude and emotions) it doesn’t really matter to me right now that williams can’t score, his shooting will improve in time, his ability to defend positions 1-3 would be very valuable on this team though.
Both thabeet and williams are high risk/high reward type guys and we don’t really have all that much to lose this season anyway. Sometimes a change of scenery will invigorate players and improve their attitude.
If we roll the dice on one or both of these guys we could become much better defensively in the paint and on the perimeter, if they don’t work out we can let them go at the end of the season just like houston plans to do and we still have our lottery pick and free agent money to try and pursue gordon,mayo or batum.
Players that don;t play can;t help
I doubt any of those guys would play. TWill has hit .319 from 3 hius career. 7/16 this year, but most years he sux. If he could crack our rotation he;d be a great signing, because we need a defensive, athletic wing. I just doubt he could.
I would use the same approach with terrence jones
Wow, the draft really is included in every one of your posts ;-)
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If I have to pick one of them, I pick Jordan Hill
I think that coming back to Arizona would perhaps be a scenery change he would appreciate enough to become something.
But in reality, none of the above, and I think you’re selling too low.
Lopez is a rotation player, and we should be able to get a rotation player back.
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A bit like Channing Frye
another fellow U of A star. I could see that happening
and I agree that we could get a bit more in return for Lopez.. I’d hate to see the Suns make another dumb move out of sheer desperation
I could see that
Maybe we can package lopez with one of our expirings and get Jordan Hill.plus anither on of those guys. Probably another guard
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by phxpurple on Jan 26, 2012 4:47 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Truth is, we wouldn’t have to give them lopez for any of those guys. If we’re willing to wait, we can just as easily pick any one or two of them up in free agency since their going to be unrestricted free agents anyway.
all 4 are free this summer. But people want action NOW, dont you know?
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Wrong wrong wrong
trade Lopez for my man crush Courtney Lee.
1. we get a decent Sg who can defend and hit the 3
2. he is great friends with Dwight Howard and they share the same agent Dan Fegan.
he can tell them both how this is a great city for Dwight to come to in the off season
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Yeh maybe
He is stuck behind Matin, and he’s solid. Good call!
Courtney Lee / O.J. Mayo
I like both of them – not starters, reasonable contracts,
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by Piotr Szczesniak on Jan 27, 2012 7:07 AM MST up reply actions
I wouldn't mind Lee
He could be our Raja, and we all know we need someone who can hit open 3’s AND play D.
I’d prefer Gordon or Mayo, but Lee would fit our system just fine. Although we still wouldn’t have a go-to scorer that we desperately need. That will have to come in FA, or a high pick like Barnes.
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What about Chase Budinger?
He was the starter then he had a few bad games and even then he started wasn’t used in consistent minutes, he was splitting time with Martin, Williams, Adrien, Morris, and Parsons. I know we are obviously loaded (by loaded I mean they are warm bodies who used to play basketball) but if there was ever a system that would benefit his style of play it would be ours.
Terrence Williams probably has the highest ceiling of anyone…He really, really reminds me of Andre Igoudala except a better shooting stroke than Iggy had this early on in his career. Williams has crazy long arms, explosive hops, and can use either his left or right hand to finish at the hole.
I don’t think Williams has a low basketball IQ, either since he clearly understands passing angles and lanes and the basic fundamentals of rebounding. The thing about Williams is that in order for his talent to begin to translate to the NBA court he needs to log minutes so patience is going to be needed.
I love Jordan Hill but I would just rather wait till the off-season to sign him. He reminds me of a more athletic Lou Amundson with the type of intensity and energy he brings.
I don’t know if Thabeet will ever be able to become a solid NBA center. He really, really needs to do nothing but work with someone like Ewing or Hakeem to just feed him basketball knowledge 24/7.
I have always really liked Johnny Flynn. He’s never going to project into a NBA starting point guard but I think he fits perfectly into the mold of a back up 15-18MPG point guard. He definitely can create his own shot, penetrate to get an easy lay up, is a very solid free throw shooter, and 3PT shooter connecting on 35.8% of threes his rookie season as the Wolves starting PG on a just horrible team.
If we’re not getting Brooks back then he wouldn’t be the worst guy to be a back up PG. However, I would like to try and get more for Lopez…Maybe a package of him plus Morris for Wilson Chandler or Paul Millsap?
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What about Minnesota?
They have 4,000,000 PFs, and Darko is the Mirror RoLo can look into and see his future. Darko vs RoLo would be an epic starter battle, The Battle For Worst Starting Center.
RoLo would really help Minny, and we could take back one of the Anthonys, Tolliver or Randolf. Both are on one year deals, both have strengths, Tolliver a sneaky good game and a decent 3 point shot and Randolf the P word – “Potential” – and it is a calssic “your problem for mine” swap of backups.
A-TRAIN!!!!!
Do it!
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Andrew Bogut is out with an ankle fracture
do we make a movve with our expendable center? maybe try an get jackson or somebody
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I'd love to get Delfino
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I don't like any options on the list.
Lopez for a SG is what we need but his value is so low right now so i’m not sure our FO could pull off a Lopez for Mayo type of deal.
The best we could hope for at the moment is we might be able to dump him on someone like the Bobcats for a couple of 2nd picks.
On another note i had a monster rosterbation session. For the record i don’t want to trade Nash but this idea came up to send him to the Knicks.
Nash, Lopez and Childress to the Knicks for Shumpet, Walker and Anthony. I know people are throwing up in their own mouths at the thought of getting Melo but most of the FA studs have been re-signed so we might have to trade for one.
Knicks get Nash and Amare back together along with Lopez to back up Chandler. Suns get a scoring machine in Melo and a future PG in Shumpet.
So are we doing a Lopez trade breakdown for every team in the NBA?
That would be fun! Also a colossal waste of time, but our team isn’t exactly keeping things exciting around here.
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