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Phoenix Suns Vs. Dallas Mavericks Game Preview

[Note by Wil Cantrell, 01/30/12 5:48 PM MST ]

Per Paul Coro tweet: "Gentry just confirmed that Nash will not play tonight. Price likely will start."

Tonight, the Phoenix Suns are posed with the task of taking on the defending champion Dallas Mavericks at U.S. Airways Arena.

The Mavericks are coming off an overtime victory versus the Spurs last night as Jason Terry led the scoring with 34 points. While the Mavericks do not currently resemble the team that won the NBA Title a year ago, they are leading the Southwest Division, winners of four of their last five.

After giving their big man a four game break to "rest," Dirk Nowitzki has returned to the hardwood for the Mavs. Jason Kidd is out tonight with a sprained right calf.

Star-divide

And now, as a special treat to you, my faithful reader, Mavs Moneyball manager, Lisa Rotter was kind enough to answer some Maverick and Suns related questions, including their reasoning for allowing Vince Carter on the team.


WC: After a slow start, do you think the Mavs will again be title contenders?

LR: The team is still way too inconsistent to say with any certainty if they can make it to the finals again. I do think that Coach Carlisle is desperately trying to limit minutes for the older guys to keep them fresh when the playoffs roll around, but it's going to take some major gelling to be finals-ready. We definitely have the offensive pieces to be a contender again, but as you have all seen, it's taking more time for those pieces to fit in the puzzle than we anticipated.

WC: Why Vince Carter? Wasn't there anyone else out there the Mavs could have signed? Derek Harper? Jim Jackson maybe? Obviously we Suns fans have a nasty taste in our mouths from his performance last year.

LR: The Mavs fans were split on Carter when we heard he was coming. Many people assumed we'd be getting the Magic/Suns VC who would be useless and fail to fit in with the team. Then there were those of us (myself included) who gave him the benefit of the doubt and hoped we would get old school Raptors/Nets Vinsanity. Lo and behold, he has been contributing really well and really quickly. He was relatively cheap and doesn't necessarily have to be long term, so he was a low risk, high reward acquisition along the same lines of Lamar Odom and Delonte West. He's a veteran who has good basketball sense and has made an immediate impact.

WC: OK, let's get down to brass tacks here. Is there any desire among Mav fans and or perhaps the FO to bring back Steve Nash? If so, what do you think the Suns could obtain in return?

LR: For sentimentality's sake, Mavs fans will always wish for Nashty to come back. But the fact is, the direction of this team is such that taking on Nash to fill Kidd's eventual vacancy seems a bit redundant. Better to start looking for younger talent to take over when the old men of this team (Kidd, Terry, eventually Dirk) can no longer produce. Before the championship, the mentality was to find pieces that fit and give us an immediate shot at the title. Nash would have been one of those guys. Now that the Mavs are looking for long-term changes, he doesn't make as much sense.

WC: What are your thoughts on the Suns? If you were the Suns ownership and front office, would you trade Nash this season and begin the rebuild in earnest?

LR: If Nash is still producing at his high level, I see no reason to get rid of him just yet. It seems like the best results come when there's a transition period between the old and new. I am not personally fond of the overhaul tactic... I think it makes better sense to replace and start over a little bit at a time. It's always painful to watch your team struggle and the temptation to start from scratch is pretty strong, but patience is a virtue. Trust us on that one.

WC: As a Maverick fan, you had to deal with a few years of misery as Mark Cuban and Co. rebuilt the Mavs back into a contender. What advice do you have for Suns fans as we near the abyss?

See above... Be patient. Rome wasn't built in a day. And other such cliches. The Mavericks proved that once you have your centerpiece, all it takes is tweaking here and there to get the chemistry right before a deep run is possible.

WC: Bonus question: What's your prediction for tonight's contest? Sounds like both Nash and Kidd are out for this one.

LR: The Mavericks are doing better without Kidd at the moment. We are getting good burn from Beaubois and West, and Dirk had an abysmal night against the Spurs so he's about due for some improvement. I never predict scores, but I'm thinking that Dallas has a pretty good shot at this one, despite coming off an overtime win into a back-to-back.

Special thanks to the lovely Ms. Rotter. You can follow her on Mavs Moneyball and via twitter at http://www.twitter.com/LJRotter

Worth Pointing Out

  • As of 11.30 AM AZ time, Steve Nash is questionable for tonight's game. Obviously that puts a damper on thoughts of an upset over the Mavericks.
  • Will Robin Lopez ever suit up for the Suns again? Do we care? That guy isn't in the doghouse, he's in the friggin' pound.
  • In the last matchup vs. the Mavs, the Suns out-rebounded their opponent 52-42. Nevertheless, some timely 3's by Shawn Marion, coupled with 37% shooting doomed the Suns to a 93-87 defeat.
  • The Phoenix Suns are 6-4 when Jared Dudley scores in double figures. The Suns are 4-1 when Dudz scores more than 15 points.
  • In 36 games vs. the Suns, Jason Terry averages 17 ppg and shoots 41% from beyond the arc.
  • Dirk Nowitzki has played 50 games versus the Suns, averaging 23 ppg, 9 rebounds per game, while shooting over 40% from beyond the arc.

How Can the Suns Win Tonight?

Well, that's quite a question, now isn't it? Nash may be out for the Suns. But Kidd is out for the Mavs. Dirk is back for the Mavs, yet appeared a smidge rusty last night against the Spurs. The Mavs are playing a second night of back to backs after playing a good Spurs squad who took them to overtime before losing.

But none of that matters to the Suns, with the exception of Nash possibly missing this one. Nash is more important to the Suns than Kidd is to the Mavs. Dirk's crappy statistical evening against the Spurs most likely means he's going to light it up tonight...So it's the usual for the up and down Suns....PLAY D, REBOUND, COMPETE ON YOUR HOME COURT, oh and maybe shoot better than 30%, hit some 3's, limit the turnovers. Yeah, mostly things the Suns haven't done all season.

Yet anything is possible, right? Check out the Suns numbers. Just think if a few normally dependable players can reach career averages (yeah Channing, I'm thinking mostly of you):


FG 3PT FT Rebounds Misc
G M M A Pct M A Pct M A Pct Off Def Tot Ast TO Stl Blk PF PPG
Marcin Gortat 19 31.4 6.6 11.8 56.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.6 2.6 61.2 2.4 7.6 10.1 0.8 1.5 0.6 1.6 2.2 14.8
Steve Nash 18 31.4 5.7 10.7 52.8 1.1 2.8 39.2 1.9 2.2 85.0 0.3 2.0 2.3 9.9 3.5 0.6 0.0 0.6 14.3
Jared Dudley 19 29.7 3.8 8.7 43.6 0.9 2.9 32.7 1.6 2.1 77.5 1.2 2.9 4.1 1.8 0.9 1.0 0.2 1.5 10.2
Grant Hill 18 26.8 3.7 9.5 39.2 0.3 1.3 21.7 1.7 1.9 88.2 0.6 3.1 3.7 1.4 1.6 0.7 0.8 1.8 9.4
Shannon Brown 18 21.3 3.6 9.1 39.0 0.8 2.5 31.1 1.5 1.8 81.8 0.5 1.6 2.1 0.9 1.2 1.0 0.1 1.3 9.4
Hakim Warrick 16 18.1 3.1 6.6 47.2 0.1 0.4 14.3 2.3 3.2 72.5 1.3 1.8 3.1 1.1 1.1 0.2 0.1 1.3 8.6
Markieff Morris 19 21.1 2.8 6.5 43.5 0.9 2.0 47.4 0.7 0.9 77.8 1.2 4.1 5.2 1.1 1.4 0.6 0.5 3.1 7.4
Channing Frye 19 21.6 2.6 7.4 35.0 1.1 3.6 30.4 0.5 0.6 81.8 1.1 4.7 5.8 1.0 1.0 0.5 0.7 2.3 6.7
Robin Lopez 17 14.2 1.6 3.5 47.5 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.5 2.1 74.3 1.1 2.2 3.3 0.4 0.8 0.1 0.6 2.5 4.8
Sebastian Telfair 13 11.3 1.4 4.8 28.6 0.5 1.2 37.5 1.2 1.4 83.3 0.2 0.8 1.1 0.9 0.8 0.7 0.0 1.5 4.4
Ronnie Price 19 16.7 1.6 4.0 39.5 0.5 1.5 35.7 0.6 0.7 84.6 0.6 1.1 1.7 2.3 1.4 1.1 0.2 2.3 4.3
Michael Redd 7 10.7 0.9 3.9 22.2 0.4 2.0 21.4 1.1 1.7 66.7 0.0 0.7 0.7 0.4 0.3 0.3 0.0 0.6 3.3
Josh Childress 7 11.4 0.9 2.4 35.3 0.1 1.1 12.5 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.7 1.0 1.7 0.6 0.1 0.4 0.3 0.6 1.9


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Nice preview Wil.

PLAY D, REBOUND, COMPETE ON YOUR HOME COURT, oh and maybe shoot better than 30%, hit some 3’s, limit the turnovers


Simple recipe.

by roby07 on Jan 30, 2012 12:33 PM MST reply actions  

Great preview Wil - rec'd

Great Q&A

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
I'm a Call of Duty Phenom, peep my YouTube.

by Eutychus on Jan 30, 2012 1:39 PM MST reply actions  

Marc Gasol is a Low Class Chump Sucking Crybaby, Send Him Back to Spain

Is there one other player in the NBA who pulls a guy who is doing a good job of boxing him out down on top of himself and then rants to the ref expecting a trip to the foul line?

Like Gasol did with Dudley?

His cheap shot on Nash at the end of the game should have been a flagrant level 1 foul. (Gentry: what is Nash doing in the game with 3 seconds left, Suns up, when you have 1 timeout left, and Ronnie Price available for D (told NOT to foul!) and Price has never met a screen he could not squeeze through?)

Looking forward the the transformation of Dudz. To become a go to the hoop passing forward, who can also shoot well inside and out. He is already a good passer (unlike Frye), he has hustle (unlike Frye), and with better shooting and the development of a few new moves he could be our own (slightly?) less gifted version of Larry Byrd, who was also glued to the floor for most of his career.

by Catamaran1 on Jan 30, 2012 2:29 PM MST reply actions  

Dudley is not athletic enough

To be someone who drives to the hoop consistently. I see many turnovers and blocked shots. He could pass out but teams don’t have to respect a Dudley penetration like they do for so many players in the league. I love JYD but he is what he is. Byrd was not playing against the kind of athletes that exist in the league today. And even then Byrd was a much better version of Dudley…

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 30, 2012 3:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Well

Comparing anyone that is not athletic to Byrd is kind of a blanket statement.

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 30, 2012 6:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Sigh...

It’s Larry Bird.

Let's do this...!

by Daryl Ray on Jan 30, 2012 6:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Hahaha

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 30, 2012 6:14 PM MST up reply actions  

You missed my funnies =(

Oh well. That was the first time I had seen it spelled like that.

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 30, 2012 6:17 PM MST up reply actions  

I will admit

It was not easy to catch and was not my best, and with that I stop talking to myself haha

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 30, 2012 6:20 PM MST up reply actions  

lol k

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 30, 2012 6:33 PM MST up reply actions  

OK, But Can We All Agree on Gasol Being a Nasty Oversized Baby Huey?

On Dudley, I am trying the power of positive thinking. If he could only develop that Bird L/R hand 6-8 foot hook shot.

by Catamaran1 on Jan 30, 2012 6:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Can't fault the positive thinking

This is BSOTS

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 30, 2012 6:53 PM MST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQRbDSwZIME

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 30, 2012 6:55 PM MST up reply actions  

As long as we can score more than 9 points per quarter, I say we have a shot.

Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.

Mark of a Beast, baby. Mark of a Beast.

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2012 2:45 PM MST reply actions  

Statistically speaking, we have an 80% chance to win if Duds sores 15+.

He should do that. So should Frye.
Oh, and positive, clean, win!

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 30, 2012 2:55 PM MST reply actions  

*scores. Jeebus.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 30, 2012 2:55 PM MST up reply actions  

lern too spel rigth

gosh!

"Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose"

by phxpurple on Jan 30, 2012 3:02 PM MST up reply actions  

It's teh fryed fngrs.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 30, 2012 3:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Deja vu.

Here we are another Monday, with the Suns playing at 8 against the Mavs, and I have a night class until 9. I’ll see you guys after class and hopefully I avoid locking myself out of the computer lab this time.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

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by Omaha Sun on Jan 30, 2012 3:04 PM MST reply actions  

If Nash plays

I think it’s a Suns win…but then I have had a few beers this evening.

I just like the rotation adjustments we saw and think they will work well going forward.

by Toon Army Sun on Jan 30, 2012 3:21 PM MST reply actions  

woah

Someone hijacked Toon Army’s SB account. No way in hell did he just write that.

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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 30, 2012 3:23 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m sure I’ll look back at it in about 7 hours time and wonder what the hell I was thinking. It’s just one of those days where I have a hunch that it’ll be a Suns W.

Based on absolutely nothing at all, obviously.

by Toon Army Sun on Jan 30, 2012 3:29 PM MST up reply actions  

It is that

Liquid courage.

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 30, 2012 3:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes and also...

Blind stupidity.

by Toon Army Sun on Jan 30, 2012 3:59 PM MST via Android app up reply actions  

Good post Wil...

A key for me if the Suns want to win is to not only limit what Dirk and Terry do (Keep them reasonable), but we can’t let guys like Marion and Mahimi go slam off on us like they did the last time we played. I think if we play as hard as we did the against the Grizz, we can do this…

Let’s Go Suns…

BTW…I get the cold shoulder from the coach for the ejection the other night, but what has Robin done so terrible to warrant being shoved out in the cold like this…?

Let's do this...!

by Daryl Ray on Jan 30, 2012 3:34 PM MST reply actions  

playing.

by Toon Army Sun on Jan 30, 2012 3:36 PM MST via Android app up reply actions  

Breaking news

The Suns now have 3 players average double figures in scoring. 2012 THE WORLD ENDS!

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 30, 2012 4:25 PM MST reply actions  

I think it is still questionable

Should know closer to game time.

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 30, 2012 4:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Sebastian Telfair's 0 point, 1 assist, 2 turnover, 0-4 shooting in 16 minutes game Saturday

Was good for an ORtg of 9. I’m pretty sure Nash on crutches could do better than that.

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by East Bay Ray on Jan 30, 2012 5:22 PM MST reply actions  

or in an iron lung

Steve is our only hope. Price on Terry? BAMF on Dirk? Do we dare hope for a rare Chilly sighting? Will AG let Frolo out of the pound if he promises to play nice?

go suns (lower case, no exclamation point – too tired to get excited).

by Van2010 on Jan 30, 2012 5:36 PM MST up reply actions  

With all this talk about LeBron riding his bike to work...

we all know it was Lou who started biking to work first when he was here in Phoenix. How unoriginal lol.

Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.

Mark of a Beast, baby. Mark of a Beast.

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2012 5:27 PM MST reply actions   3 recs

total rec. and remember when shaq stole his bike? didnt lou retaliate by filling shaqs diesel with those packing peanut things?

ahhhh the good ol days.

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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 30, 2012 5:38 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec for the memories.

Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.

Mark of a Beast, baby. Mark of a Beast.

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2012 5:39 PM MST up reply actions  

What a copy-cat

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 30, 2012 5:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Vince Carter is making 43% of his 3s so far this year.

Better than every Suns player except for Markieff Morris.

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by East Bay Ray on Jan 30, 2012 5:38 PM MST reply actions  

And the Mavs are paying him $3M, less than the $4M we paid him to go away.

Can you tell which organization is run more efficiently?

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by East Bay Ray on Jan 30, 2012 5:43 PM MST up reply actions  

And Dragic, another LON Babby BOO-BOO...

..was the 2nd top scorer, 16, 6 for 8, on Sat when the Rockets beat the Knicks. He also led in assists for the Rockets with 5.

by Catamaran1 on Jan 30, 2012 7:00 PM MST up reply actions  

ah shut up, ray. we’re trying to build some positivity around these parts.

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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 30, 2012 5:44 PM MST reply actions  

And....

You’re bald, Wil.

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by East Bay Ray on Jan 30, 2012 5:44 PM MST up reply actions  

per paul coro: “Nash can’t run.”

guess that answers that question

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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 30, 2012 5:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Crap.

@paulcoro Paul Coro: Gentry just confirmed that Nash will not play tonight. Price likely will start.

Well, that certainly doesn’t help our chances.

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by East Bay Ray on Jan 30, 2012 5:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Time to chalk this one up....

IN THE WIN COLUMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bet you didn’t see that one coming

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 30, 2012 5:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes.

Dallas’ win column.

Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.

Mark of a Beast, baby. Mark of a Beast.

by NashMV3 on Jan 30, 2012 5:52 PM MST up reply actions  

On a positive side note...

2N hasn’t caught anything over on on Pounding the Rock. or SS&R, But I’m keeping the Amoxycyllin close by just in case…

Somebody needs to invent a “blog condom…”

Let's do this...!

by Daryl Ray on Jan 30, 2012 5:59 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

lol what if price scor 18 pts, had 12 assit anf 11 rebounds

and telfair had a carry game as well. and chilly went off for 40. and channing frye hit a shot.

"Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose"

by phxpurple on Jan 30, 2012 6:07 PM MST reply actions  

your right.....

Frye hitting a shot would be impossible XD

"Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose"

by phxpurple on Jan 30, 2012 6:12 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

scores* Asist* and* career*

hate my phone

"Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose"

by phxpurple on Jan 30, 2012 6:13 PM MST up reply actions  

I need cheering up people..

Maybe watching this game won’t be a good thing..

The battle against the monster under my bed continues...

by Aztiramtempe on Jan 30, 2012 6:11 PM MST reply actions  

I had to choose between watching this game and tazing myself...

I’d choose watching this game…

Let’s Go Suns…!.

Let's do this...!

by Daryl Ray on Jan 30, 2012 6:15 PM MST up reply actions  

True..

The battle against the monster under my bed continues...

by Aztiramtempe on Jan 30, 2012 6:18 PM MST up reply actions  

your right.....

Frye hitting a shot would be impossible XD

"Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose"

by phxpurple on Jan 30, 2012 6:11 PM MST reply actions  

Looks like Brown should be playing since Nash is out?

Price and Telfair have to play the PG position so that means no more bench for Brown. I was hoping to see if his benching last game was for match-ups but I guess I gotta wait for that

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Jan 30, 2012 6:22 PM MST reply actions  

Well, all the people who want to get rid of Nash...

This is your future.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Jan 30, 2012 6:56 PM MST reply actions  

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