Robin Lopez Still an Enigma as Phoenix Suns Frontcourt Finds Early Success
The Phoenix Suns sure are putting together an interesting early season for us fans.
So many new and interesting things are happening on the court: rookie Markieff Morris has been making the Suns front office look good for once, Channing Frye is finally finding his range (4-4 last night from 3!), and Steve Nash is reminding us yet again why we come back year after year to watch the Phoenix Suns play ball. That said, one thing has remained unchanged: fourth-year big man Robin Lopez remains an inconsistent enigma.
Last year, Robin struggled with a persistent back injury, eventually conceding his starting position to new acquisition Marcin Gortat. During this season's training camp, Robin displayed a new positive mindset and an optimism about his renewed health and energy level, saying that he "feels bouncier". He put this new trait on display in the first game of the season against the New Orleans Hornets, breaking out for 21 point on 8-12 shooting, including a confident 3-5 from beyond 16 feet and 7 boards.
In the next five games combined, he had 21 points, 16 rebounds and his usage rate dwindled from 30% to around 16%.
I bring out these statistics only to show that even in a microcosm of 8 games, it's plain to see that there are still consistency issues with our big guy. My preseason hope that the "big 4" of Robin, Marcin, Markieff, and Channing Frye coalesce into a cohesive, complementary front court has yet to be realized. Gortat, as the Phoenix Suns' current breadwinner in the block, is earning 30% more minutes than Lopez. Markieff Morris, the best surprise of this early season, is outperforming the rest of the Suns front court in every category per 48 minutes, and Channing has been getting it done on the boards as well as from behind the arc. The only thing missing is a little bit of production from Robin Lopez.
I'm being a little too harsh here, of course. As strange as it is to say, the Suns have a small embarrassment of riches at the 5 spot. Gortat has been solid so far, and Robin, though inconsistent, has shown flashes of being he enforcer and finisher that he revealed two seasons ago that he could be.
Where does he go from here? With the Suns at 4-4 and Gortat holding the line at center, I can only expect the contribution from Robin to continue increasing. Last season, he was under extreme pressure to perform as the focal point of the Suns' frontcourt. With a solid partner at the 5, he doesn't have to carry that burden and can focus instead on improving his overall game. What we saw flashes of in Game 1 of the 2011-2012 season, I think we'll see much more of as the season goes on.
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hope so
I am usually very optimistic, but his temper seems to take him to dark places.
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Keep Hoping…Bynum is injured i think but he has been playing beastly
Blind enough to believe on Pudgemonster.
I know
20 and 20 doesn’t suck
but he is still a prick, and fropez is one of the few centers that’s big and strong enough to bang with him.
Enough Bitchin' lets do this
by 2NASHTY on Jan 9, 2012 7:56 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
amen to that
No longer a disadvantage for us on the front court, lets hope Frolo can get under the skin of Bynum.
Playing time
will be the problem for Robin as long as Gortat is healthy. Gortat is an above average center, and potentially allstar worthy so I expect him to get 28+ minutes a night. I don’t see any scenarios where we want Gortat and Lopez on the floor at the same time, so Lopez is going to be limited in his opportunities and his numbers will fluctuate. I personally think Robin will continue to improve and find ways to contribute, and that the Suns have a good problem at the center position.
Maybe Lopez isn't playing his natural position.
Just sayin. He likes to stay low to the floor, as seen by his posture, and it seems that he likes to try and bring the ball past half-court. Maybe he should get some of Price or Telfair’s minutes at point guard. I mean, look how greatly Hakim Warrick has improved by sliding to the 3.
Channing Frye would NEVER catch flying french fries with his left hand!
by Will Slaven on Jan 9, 2012 6:42 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
all this time he've been looking for nash's hier
and he was way above our noses the whole time.
Enough Bitchin' lets do this
only under our noses when he hunches
Channing Frye would NEVER catch flying french fries with his left hand!
speak for your self Will
if he touched his toes I’d still have to look up at him.
Enough Bitchin' lets do this
Nevertheless, keep him
Beginning last year and this Summer, I thought despairingly about him and his skills. Already this year, my mind’s been changed about trading him. IMO, he is like a bi-polar who falls for the negative pressure. Perhaps appreciating him with a simple, stable job on the bench is what he can handle. In basketball terms, he’s too big to give up on. Not my kind of player for he is naturally animal-violent and sort of dim: opponents act afraid for their careers when around him. I predict he can get better at basketball over time because he’s challenged by bigger things every day, like keeping his shit together. A case in point, he handles the ball like it were a baseball. God help him., Amen.
"he is naturally animal-violent and sort of dim: opponents act afraid for their careers when around him."
um, isn’t this part of why we love him?
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Ummm, Robin is not dim.
Weird, but definitely an intelligent guy.
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Even to play sports.
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by East Bay Ray on Jan 10, 2012 11:12 AM MST up reply actions
It amazes me how many people believe him to be dim simply because he’s big and has a deep voice. Probably one of, if not the smartest guy on the team and that’s saying something because I think this team has it’s fair share of smart guys.
by Chris_Coffel on Jan 10, 2012 2:29 PM MST up reply actions
Robin had a 3.76 gpain school
At stanford. Nuff said
coincidently his brother brook went on academic probation for having a 1.8 gpa at one time
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by phxpurple on Jan 10, 2012 2:47 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
I wonder what Childress had. Close to that I bet.
by Chris_Coffel on Jan 10, 2012 2:59 PM MST up reply actions
I will honestly lure him to a 3 year contract 4 mil each year
He is playing crappy, he will feel like we are backing up his hard work and then we wouldn´t have to worry about he leaving next year so we can spend our money on two çm superstars???, above the average FA.
4 mil and 3 years might be a little too much of time, but i would try to pursue that deal now…
Blind enough to believe on Pudgemonster.
I would be extremely surprised if he agreed to that.
He is 7’1" or so, apparently healthy, 23 years old. He will get more money on the open market this summer.
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Kwame got $7m for one year. Darko got $16m for 3 yrs (4th yr team option).
Robin is going to get at least $20m from someone….the question is if the Suns want to spend that on a backup center and if not, they should trade him at the deadline. They can’t let him leave as an RFA and get nothing back.
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 10, 2012 6:59 AM MST up reply actions
Says the voice of reason.
It was only called the mildly irritated house on McDowell until I showed up.
by Jim Coughenour on Jan 10, 2012 11:05 AM MST up reply actions
They can and should
If the price of keeping him is that high. Better to trade him now, but he isn’t worth big money.
When it is all said and done,
Lopez will not be with the Suns.
He will either play his way into a contract the Suns will not want to pay [to keep cap room for other deals], play his way into some team believing he has upside and value and offering him with the Suns either sign-n-trade or letting him walk [so they don’t overpay him], play inconsistently and suns trading him at deadline, or play very poorly and suns don’t offer him his QO.
I believe this as well
"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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he's kind of victim of circumstances
Last year, and the season before, really, he was hampered by injuries. This season, he’s showing much more promise than last, but Gortat is clearly more consistent and will remain the starter. And so he’s playing off the bench with people that don’t pass the ball, so he can’t be as productive as possible. He’s in a tough spot.
There are moments when he relapses to last year- but, darn it, his confidence would be so much better if that 2nd unit used him effectively by giving him the ball in the right circumstances instead of chucking up mostly bad shots (i’m looking at you, Brown).
All in all, I’m happy he’s here this year. I agree wtih the comment above that we’ll probably lose him at the end of the year. And, that’ll be ok if we replace him with someone decent- but I’d like to see him become a real threat this year either way, for the good of this year and for his career.
One more thing… people get down on our draft picks, but Goran’s looking good, Lopez can be good, Morris is obviously good. That is better than a lot of team’s picks for the past few years. I think they’ve done ok. Morris looks like the best pick since Amare, and you can’t complain about that. With all the big men coming out of next summer’s draft, we could get another nice pick if Lopez leaves.
Grant Hill for prez.
by sun-arc on Jan 9, 2012 8:35 PM MST via mobile reply actions
I'm mostly pissed we gave away draft picks
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Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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I'm mostly pissed we gave away Silo
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by suns68 on Jan 10, 2012 6:07 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
definitely sucks we gave away picks.
wasn’t that during the Mike D era? He never played young guys anyway. And now, in NYC, he’s playing Shumpert and last year played a rookie or two. What gives?
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by sun-arc on Jan 10, 2012 8:47 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
He plays his best players.
Doesn’t like to use a large bench.
When he was the coach in Phoenix this was his modus operandi. It sitll is in New York.
D’Antoni prefers to give extended minutes to 7-8 players instead of spreading them between 9-10.
He plays rookies and young players in New York because they have no depth. Fields and Shumpert have been top 7-8 players on that roster the last two years.
Shumpert actually looked good in the limited action I saw from him against the Bobcats last night.
It was only called the mildly irritated house on McDowell until I showed up.
by Jim Coughenour on Jan 10, 2012 11:13 AM MST up reply actions
Who Shumpert or D'Antoni?
"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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Hmmm...as much gel as he uses in the locks...
This could be a nice little bonfire…
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Yeah they were chanting his name apparently
In one of the recent games. Funny stuff in NY.
"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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That broke the camels back
For sure.
"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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TRADE HIM
while there is a belief in his upside…mark my words… that lunk will have an injury to blame for his poor play with in 25 games
by good like a-1 beer on Jan 9, 2012 11:13 PM MST reply actions
there’s already been mention of a foot strain. Offhand note last week by Coro.
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I would like to see some numbers on his effect with the starters.
Remember that Lopez is playing with people he has never played with in a system that only HE is familiar with. Morris does well because, frankly, the kid doesn’t know any better. He is barely playing Suns system ball, he is just super good at the fundamentals and his shot is great. But you stick Lopez out there with one person who has been here more than 2 months – Warrick – plus 3 BRAND NEW guys and you are bound to have foul ups.
There is a reason, I think, that he did so well the first game – he was with the starters.
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Not callin u out bro
Just curious to how u think Morris is not playing within our system?
by SmokinKieff on Jan 9, 2012 11:19 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Morris isnt the problem
Hes hirt as nad a lopez by the poor guard play. the difference is morris has other skills that counter the guards suckage. Rolo will improve when the guards improve. Second unit needs to run through our bigs
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by phxpurple on Jan 10, 2012 2:54 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
I know Morris isnt the problem
I was just curious as to how Morris isn’t playing within our system. And what exactly is our system? Seems like we are in transition
by SmokinKieff on Jan 10, 2012 7:39 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
so why isn’t it Lopez job to make others look good, instead of everyone else’s job to make him look good? After all this time?
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b/c his primary role is on defense….kind of like a Tyson Chandler but less experienced
It’s not unusual at all for bigs to be underused on offense these days. Dalembert. Okafor. Perkins. Jordan. Bogut for the first few years of his career, Camby, Diop and Mohammed before they got old (and after they got paid).
Perkins, btw, has a lower PER than Robin this season, FWIW.
I wish there was a rebounding +/- stat…
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 10, 2012 7:06 AM MST up reply actions
Robin's per 48 stats are actually decent
it’s the 10-15 minutes a game and low usage rate that worries me more. He’s “looked” better at rebounding so far this season, but the numbers don;t back that up because he isn’t playing as much as he would be if Gortat weren;t doing so well.
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None of that his his fault
Low usage rate when Brown and Price (and Telfair) take every available shot is to be expected. I wish we could get a new backup PG, someone who can play.
rebounding +/- would be nice
Because I fully believe Lopez would be a big plus is this department. Maybe it’s all in my head, but I really feel like the team as a whole rebounds better with Lopez on the floor. Even though he doesn’t get the boards, he creates enough space for his teammates to grab them.
And he’s definitely being used poorly on offense. When he gets the ball its in a bad position. And he has no chance to grab offensive boards because Brown is jacking up thirty footers before Lopez has any chance to get in position to grab them.
Also, I just like Lopez a lot.
by Chris_Coffel on Jan 10, 2012 2:38 PM MST up reply actions
He played the whole last quarter against Milwaukee and we were massively outrebounded.
Lopez is slow and cumbersome, so he looked great against Portland when he was basically anchored to the paint, but against a smaller, quicker Milwaukee group of bigs, he struggled to recover and get in position to rebound.
Wwll then we gota play to his strentghs
Like you said against smaller but fast bigs he gets out.played. Thats what Gortat is for.
But gortat to has his limitations. Againat biggers bigs gortat struggles, but lopez can hang better. Thata why we must keep both
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by phxpurple on Jan 10, 2012 6:43 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Or like Gregory Echenique at Creighton.
(Yes, I’m going to bust out the CU comparisons whenever I can)
Gregory is a 6’9" 270 pound center in a league not known for big men. He has struggled mightily to finish around the basket on offense (especially earlier in the season) and plenty of fans were growing frustrated with him. But Coach Mac continued to play him because of what he gives the team on defense. With him in the post, we don’t have to worry about sending double-teams. There isn’t a player in the league that can back him down because of his size, strength, and defensive instincts. So while he wasn’t [putting up the stats we expected, he was still contributing in a big way.
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I was bored
Robin’s REB+/- for the season is -4. The team on the year is -20.
GAME BY GAME:
1. vs NOH – LOSS
Team: -2
Lopez: -1
2. vs PHI – LOSS
Team: -9
Lopez: -10
3. @ NOH – WIN
Team: -10
Lopez: -3
4. @ OKC – LOSS
Team: -9
Lopez: -2
5. vs GSW – WIN
Team: +13
Lopez: +3
6. @ DAL – LOSS
Team: -11
Lopez: -2
7. vs POR – WIN
Team: +9
Lopez: +18
8. vs MIL – WIN
Team: -2
Lopez: -7
BAMF goes HAM.
I really want Lopez to keep up his good work
So we can trade his ass! Lol. I like him but he is injury prone n if we could get somethin decent back id do it.
Gortat is a PF/C. He’s not quite a legit center as far as his playing style or fundementals. He reminds me A LOT of Al Horford.
by SmokinKieff on Jan 9, 2012 11:14 PM MST via mobile reply actions
He's a Center
Just because his offensive game is all screen and roll/jumpers, it doesn’t mean he’s a power forward. His impact on D is massive, despite his limited playing time and injury this season he’s the 13th best defender in the league at 0,54 points allowed per defensive possession. That’s 13th in the WHOLE NBA.
Bogust is, obviously, number 1 at a truly ridiculous 0,34 ppp.
Interestingly, Dwight Howard is number 136 with 0,84. Best defensive center my balls.
He plays center
But he’s not a true center. Not just based on the pick and pop/roll. His skillset fits a PF/c combo to a tee. He is a good shooter and relies on it. He is an average to slightly above average rebounder, doesn’t have the footwork in the post, is a face up player. He’s Al Horford 2.0 seriously… The only difference is Horford has more athleticism. Would you say Horford is a true center?
by SmokinKieff on Jan 10, 2012 7:37 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
He plays center because he's 7'0/245~250 and knows how to throw his weight around
He has the offensive game of a faceup PF/C, yes, but defensively he’s a center. There’s a reason he’s the defensive anchor for the Suns and why he was so sought after as an FA.
That’s because he plays fantastic fundamental D, he’s one of the best in the league at that. He makes the opposing big men look like they’re having a bad night, every single night.
He’s listed at 6’11" and 240 lbs, and that seems about right. He’s smaller than a lot of starting centers, and it shows as he can be pushed around at times.
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Hey PHXgp
Typo in 4th paragraph “being he” should be “being the enforcer” Mistakes happen :P
Isn't Lopez the obligatory
scary muthaf*cka that every basketball team has to have? Like he’s mostly there to discourage other teams from brawlin it up. You just look at him, and you’re like… hell no, that big mofo gonna shank somebody.
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the maddening thing about lopez
is that you can literally SEE how much potential is there. as a 7-foot center with upside, he’s inherently valuable – either to us or as trade bait. when i look at other teams around the league, i can’t think of any that wouldn’t be willing to at least take a flyer on him, if not offer something more substantial.
to me, there are two main questions surrounding this dude:
1. How the hell can our coaching staff unlock the potential we all know he has, so that he can make a consistent contribution to our team?
2. If he DOES start playing well consistently, what do you do with him? I’d be tempted to sell high on him, just given his injury history and inconsistency in the past. Then again, I don’t know.
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by u_must_chill on Jan 9, 2012 11:43 PM MST up reply actions
If he plays really well
He will play his way into a contract that the Suns can’t afford with Gortat here as well.
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Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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but if he does play really well, we could get something for him in trade this season in the next 2 months. If we are going to lose him anyway, we should get something for him. At least maybe a good full season out of him. But I worry about injuries with this guy too.
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by sun-arc on Jan 10, 2012 8:50 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah
I am pretty sure he will no longer be on this team next year. There are too many logical scenarios where he leaves rather than staying.
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Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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Not really
Worst case scenario he takes a our QO and stays. There isn’t a big history of teams offering RFA huge money when the other team can match.
Maybe GSW will offer him nutty money, but really, he probably gets at best $6 million as an offer, so he will take our QO and be an UFA the year after.
We need him to go Super Saiyan
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by rsavaj on Jan 10, 2012 3:37 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
DBZ auto-rec.
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Does he have conditioning issues?
His 12 rebounds against Portland were amazing – a number were pure hustle and strength.
But 0 in ten minutes vs Dallas? 3 in 18 versus Milwaukee? Is it conditioning? Or pure lack of concentration? I dunno, but at his best Lopez looks amazing, but his average, and the standard deviation (e.g. how bad he can be), are both ongoing concerns.
i think that ultimately what this might come down to for gentry
is figuring out the combination of guys to play him with that will make him most productive. more than anyone else on our team, lopez’s production is contingent upon the other four guys he’s on the court with
Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
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by u_must_chill on Jan 9, 2012 11:46 PM MST up reply actions
Rebounding is a individual skill
It comes down to dedication mostly. Lopez’s extreme variance is just puzzling.
Lopez Can Play
But that goofy sweeping hook shot has got to go! How can he work out with all these great centres in the off season and still be allowed to throw that junk up?
Okay, I’m getting kind of negative here, but even Channing can put up a pretty decent little jump hook. Imagine if Fropez extended his endless arm up above himself while turning sideways to the hoop and even just going up on his toes? Unblockable and not silly looking.
He’s also quite a happy guy sometimes and always positive on the bench, first one up when there’s a nice play or JD gets a dunk.
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by Frye (of Victoria, Canada) on Jan 10, 2012 12:46 AM MST reply actions
I vote for trade
That was what I was thinking b/f reading the comments. Channing can slip to the 5 when the Suns “go small” and Gortat deserves to be first team and more minutes than Lopez. Where is there room?
Regardless of everything else, there is simply not much room for him to play and grow, so it will be hard for him to work into whatever more potential he may have. Any 7-footer that can walk and chew gum at the same time plays for 10+ years, and he’s got more than that. Seems like he has some trade value — picks, expiring contracts, Price’s/Telfair’s replacment(s) for next year.
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from the way it's been shaking out so far
I can definitely see that. The only problem (potentially) is that I think Lopez actually has a higher ceiling based on his physical attributes…..I’m just hoping he improves in whatever time is granted him this season by Gentry so that his value keeps going up.
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Mmmmm ... Guinness
This is where somebody's brilliant suggestion
to incorporate rest days could be invaluable.
If Gortat, Frye, and Morris all had a day off every 10 games it would give Lopez a start (time with the starters) and two games with extended minutes every 10 game interval, while still keeping him fresh by allocating a day off.
Hard to evaluate a guy in a contract year and see what he’s made of (or showcase him for a trade) when he’s playing 18.3 minutes per game (9th on the team). Unless maybe they’re intentionally trying to keep his numbers low (6.1 ppg and 4.8 rpg) to suppress his earning capacity on the free market….
I would say that four years into the Rolo experiment that it’s time for the rubber to hit the road or to cut bait and switch. I think the best way to test the mettle and fortitude of a player is to put him in a position where he has a chance to succeed and let him prove his worthiness. Playing a fourth year player who was drafted with the hope of evolving into a franchise center 18 minutes a night off the bench is not putting him in a position to succeed.
I think that Lopez will be too expensive of a back up and doesn’t mesh will the Suns offseason plans for free agent domination. The Suns already have Gortat, Frye, and Morris on team friendly terms. Lopez is expendable. If they don’t plan on re-signing him they should deal him at the deadline.
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by Jim Coughenour on Jan 10, 2012 12:20 PM MST reply actions
Yeah, I think you've hit the bottom line of it right here
I think that Lopez will be too expensive of a back up and doesn’t mesh will the Suns offseason plans for free agent domination. The Suns already have Gortat, Frye, and Morris on team friendly terms. Lopez is expendable. If they don’t plan on re-signing him they should deal him at the deadline.
I hope he shows enough by the deadline that he brings some value back.
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by East Bay Ray on Jan 10, 2012 2:28 PM MST up reply actions
What does an underachieving back-up center draw nowadays...?
Where’s David Kahn when you really need him…?
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I think Lopez only gets those numbers
Because of the blowouts. All the backups have higher minutes because they have played 4th quarter minutes in a few games.
He might get lucky and continue to get 18, as we play a few blowouts, but I doubt it.
Playing a fourth year player who was drafted with the hope of evolving into a franchise center 18 minutes a night off the bench is not putting him in a position to succeed.
Surely minutes are earned? Who is he playing better than out of Gortat, Frye and Morris? I think you play players teh minutes they deserve, and RoLo is getting slightly more than that, because of the blowouts and Gortat’s finger splint.
Nice write up PHXgp!
I think Looez just has to find his rhythm again in our offense. I got really excited about him after the first game, probably too prematurely, but I still think he can be a big contributor especially against 2nd string centers.
Speaking of 2nd team, I think that’s another reason for his struggles. So far neither Price nor Telfair has done very well in setting up our players. Lopez would greatly benefit from playing with a more capable back-up who can find him inside or run a P&R effectively.
by 7footer on Jan 10, 2012 5:41 PM MST via mobile reply actions

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