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Phoenix Suns Fourth Quarter Execution Falls Short, Again

There's been several times this season the Suns have lost games in the final quarter of play. That's really not a surprise, actually, as crunch time is what separates teams and where talent deficiencies really show up the most.

In the Warriors loss on Monday the Suns had a lot of issues. They gave up 17 second chance points in the first half to let Golden State stay in the game. In the third quarter the defense fell apart and they blew a 12-point lead and have up 25 points in 6:46 of play.

But it's the fourth quarter where things are always most telling. You learn exactly who coaches trust and you can see where teams need to improve from both a talent and execution standpoint.

In the fourth quarter of this game, the Suns were very much in the mix, down just three points with 12 minutes to play and again down three points with just under two minutes to play. Some things worked really well like Nash and Hill getting the ball in to the post against Nate Robinson after switches, and other things didn't work well like Ronnie Price running the offense.

After the jump there's a detailing of every Suns offensive possession and some general thoughts. No Jeremy Lin mention at all.

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Suns down 76-73 to start the fourth

1. Motion offense, Redd curling off screens. Catch, pump, shoot, miss.

2. Price/Frye p/r. Warriors switch. Frye goes to post w/ Nate Rob on him. Price tries to go to Frye but throws the ball away (horrible pass).

3. Frye posts up Rush, Chill cuts baseline, Ellis leaves to try for steal, Frye hits Chill for open layup.

4. Play designed to get Redd in the post but well defended by Klay T. Redd gets ball too far out, calls Morris over for screen, Warriors switch. Morris w/ clock down posts Klay for bucket.

5. Warriors switch cross screens early end up with Nate Rob on Frye. Price ignores and goes to Chill in the corner. Chill goes to Morris in post on Rush. Morris fouled.

6. Play starts are #4 above. Redd catches on wing, calls Morris over for side screen and roll. Warriors trap Redd and force him high. Play falls apart, Redd gives back to Price with 5 sec on clock. Price uses Frye screen, Warriors switch and Price drives on Udoh, tries to hit cutting Morris but pass dropped. Turnover, run out layup for GSW.

7. High p/r w/ Price and Morris. GSW switches. Morris dives down lane. Nat Rob flops so Rush moves in to lane to cover Morris w/ Nate on the ground leaving Frye and Chill wide open on weak side. Price doesn't recognize, gives to Redd in mid-post vs. Klay. Redd turns down shot, kicks to Price for open three. Miss. Chill tap miss to Morris for put back.

8. Play goes to Morris in the post on David Lee. Morris goes middle, shoulder fake then turns over his left shoulder and hits hook from five feet.

9. Price turns down entry pass to Morris in post. Price drives middle, sucks in some help defenders, Morris floats to arc, gets open three, miss. Chill back tap OReb.

10. Free lance play w/ Dudley driving, kick to Frye, drives on Udoh, miss.

Nash, Gortat and Hill come back in at 6:50. Morris and Dudley stay on the floor. GSW up 88-82

11. Suns run some motion but end up with Nash / Morris high p/r. Morris slips screen and Nash hits him. Help comes and Morris hits Gortat for four foot hook.

12. Quick high p/r w. Nash and Gortat. Nash goes to Morris for open three. He doesn't take shot, passes to Dudley on weak side wing. Dud drives, draws defenders, kicks back out to Nash for wide open three. Miss.

13. Nash runs off a few screens in the paint and curls, but GSW defends well. Nash to Dudley on weak side, Dudley drives and kicks to Nash, runs quick screen w/ Morris who ends up with wide open three, miss. Gortat OReb.

14. Nash/Gortat high p/r. GSW switches Nate Rob on to Gortat, Nate hands Gortat off to Lee but then is left defending Morris on weak side post. Ball to Dudley, back to Nash high then down to Morris in paint on Nate. Nate pokes ball away, after scramble, Morris hits three at buzzer.

15. Nash/Gortat high p/r. GSW switches Nate Rob on to Gortat, Udoh pressures Nash who kicks to Hill on wing who lobs to Gortat being fronted by Nate Rob. Easy lay up.

16. Hill steals pass, misses lay up, Dudley pushed on rebound w/ no call. GSW up 94-89.

17. Suns run series of p/r with Warriors sucking in, Dudley passes up open three, leaves Nash w/ ball just a few seconds left. Forced to take tough three w/ Lee in his face. Miss.

18. After series of screens and passes, Nash drives, draws help, dish to Morris, great block by Udoh.

19. Quick p/r w. Nash and Gortat. GSW rotates well from corner to cut off Gortat. Nash to Hill who takes advantage of rotations and hits pull up J.

20. 1:51, Suns down just 94-91. Quick p/r w. Nash and Gortat. Warriors trap and recover. Ellis pokes ball from Nash, Nash recovers, drives to baseline, finds Gortat for open 15 foot J. Miss.

21. 1:12, Suns still down 94-91. Timeout, Suns. Hill gets ball at high angle right, Nash pin down screen on Udoh to try and free Gortat but Udoh fights through and breaks up play. No pass. Nash back out high gets ball, Hill dives, Nash passes, Hill kicks to Dudley for semi-open three. Miss.

22. 36 sec, Suns down 96-91. Dudley uses Hill screen to get open three. Miss. Game over.

General thoughts:

The Suns used 10 offensive possessions with Nash, Hill and Gortat on the bench. The Suns scored nine points and were -3 in that stretch which wasn't horrible but Price on offense was pretty bad and Redd didn't get anything done as the second option. Morris played well.

  • On three of ten possessions, Price doesn't take advantage of tiny Nate Robinson switching on to a big. On another he can't get a simple entry pass into Morris in the post.
  • The Suns tried running Redd off cross screens to get him good post position but the Frye screens were poor and Klay Thompson defended well forcing the play all the way out to the arc.
  • Morris only got one designed post touch, he scored, He scored again in the post on a broken play. Price couldn't get him the ball on another designed post play. He had 7 of the 9 points before Nash came back in.
Nash came back in with the Suns down six at the 6:50 mark.
  • Nash twice takes advantage of Nate Rob switching on to bigs which forced the Warriors to pull him despite the two big threes he hit in the quarter. Ellis covered Nash in crunch time w/ Curry on Dudley.
  • Dudley missed two open threes, Nash missed an open three, Gortat missed an open 15-foot J. If the Suns make some of those shots, it's a different ball game.
  • But, with Nash in the game, at no point did the Suns try and post up. They ran their pick and rolls and a few different actions to get guys moving towards the rim. The Warriors rotated well and forced the Suns to kick out and take jump shots. This isn't anything new for the Suns in the fourth quarter.
  • Klay Thompson defended well and hit a big three. Nate Robinson hit two big threes. Ekpe Udoh was very good. Even with Ellis, Curry and Lee doing almost nothing in the fourth, the Warriors bench came through and won the game. Tip your hat to them for winning at home and making some big shots.

I'm not sure how much we actually learned here. The Warriors did defend pretty well but the Suns weren't horrible in their execution in the fourth either other than Price not getting the ball in to the post against Nate Rob.

A lot of these close games are going to come down to making jump shots b/c the Suns are a jump shooting team.

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JEREMY LIN!

Never lowercase the SUNS in Phoenix SUNS!

by sidepart on Feb 15, 2012 10:29 AM MST reply actions  

No but seriously...I am first and we should get it out of the way.

Redd and Morris were looking pretty good during the game.

Redd is starting to get his legs but his execution just seems a little out of sync. Imagine when those drives and short buckets start falling… unbelievable.

Really we just needed a competent point guard last night. A lot of the passing was forced, and went straight into a Nuggets player. Really we just need Jeremy Lin…right? Lin’s the answer, right?

Never lowercase the SUNS in Phoenix SUNS!

by sidepart on Feb 15, 2012 10:32 AM MST up reply actions  

Jeremy Lin is the answer to every question, the solution to every problem

He is clearly the most important human being to ever live and everybody must speak of him at all times, no exceptions. Nothing else in the world matters.

Blogging Suns basketball for Bright Side of the Sun from California wine country.
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by East Bay Ray on Feb 15, 2012 10:41 AM MST up reply actions  

Jeremy Lin's story gives me hope for Sebastian Telfair.

Well, not really. But it sounds good.

I'm Michael Beasley's imaginary friend.

by suns68 on Feb 15, 2012 10:49 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Praise to Jeremy Lin. I agree with you, good sir.

I believe that all thoughts and opinions expressed in the comment section of BSoTS should begin with an homage to Jeremy Lin for he is truly worth noting in any conversation.

Never lowercase the SUNS in Phoenix SUNS!

by sidepart on Feb 15, 2012 10:56 AM MST up reply actions  

Ekpe Udoh played a key role in shutting down the Suns post game late.

The Suns were exploiting the mismatch when the Warriors went small with Lee at center and Ellis, Curry and Brandon Rush all in the game. As soon as Udoh came back in to patrol the paint, it was jump shots galore for the Suns. On-court/off-court is a very inexact stat, but Udoh’s team-best +14 was well-deserved on Monday night.

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by East Bay Ray on Feb 15, 2012 10:49 AM MST reply actions  

I was wondering why we see no post plays

Like Seth said in the article ‘with Nash in the game, at no point did the Suns try to post up’. So, is this saying anyone with talent equal to or greater than Udoh will take any interior play away from the Suns? Is this a decision Nash makes on the fly or is this what Gentry has them do, because he has no trust in our PF/C players? This frustrates me cause our shooters are just not that good. Man, this is like, hopelessness.

by rdgroce on Feb 15, 2012 12:06 PM MST up reply actions  

im starting to get REALLY frusterated with this team

im starting to think about routing against the suns so they either A) get a better draft pick or B) management wakes the fuck up and realizes this team sucks and there is no point in holding on to these pieces and getting nothing for them and still having a crap product. if we dont trade away pieces (especially nash) right now when there is value, this team has NO hope for AT LEAST 5 years. or C) both, this is preferable. What a stupid team

by Berecki on Feb 15, 2012 12:34 PM MST reply actions  

i may even consider divorcing this team if nothing is done

Maybe you dont bow it all up, maybe u make a blockbuster trade and bring in peices to make it competitive. I dont think its possible, but who knows. but if they do NOTHING it shows me management dosnt care about winning and just wants to make the last buck they can off of nash. and if they do something stupid like trade one of our role players for a crappy pick and a ham sandwich that does nothing for me. something big needs to happen soon

by Berecki on Feb 15, 2012 12:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Something big is happening

They’re tanking for next summer, just not all the way. It’s why Shannon Brown and Telfar were signed when that cash could have been spent on a much better player.

Believe me, I don’t like their plan so far either as there may not be so many good free agents available. They should have just added a good role player for this year instead of waiting till next summer to add a couple. I don’t get their logic.

Maybe they’re secretly developing a plan to recruit Dwight Howard? For all we know, they could be planning to set up a trade near the draft to land a star forward or SG for Gortat. That could help with recruiting him, however it’d only be a done deal until Dwight signs with the Suns. If not, deal off.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Feb 15, 2012 12:56 PM MST up reply actions  

if were tanking, its not good enough

were still only the 9th worse team out there, not good enough to get an impact player in the draft, unless we get really lucky

by Berecki on Feb 15, 2012 1:02 PM MST up reply actions  

“Our position has been the same all along, which is I’ve told him that he has earned the right to stay with our franchise as long as he wants provided that he believes in what we’re doing, and provided that he’s all in and wants to do that,” Babby told SI.com.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/sam_amick/02/13/nash.suns/index.html#ixzz1mTzlV7PQ

I wonder what it is they want him to go all in for?

Seems like our FO is being very secretive with us, but then again, that’s what we thought last summer when they were going after Shumpert. Turns out, that wasn’t a smokescreen.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Feb 15, 2012 1:07 PM MST up reply actions  

steve nash is the kind of guy who will never ask to be traded

steve nash is not bigger than the suns. the suns need to grow some onions and make the move.

by Berecki on Feb 15, 2012 1:11 PM MST up reply actions  

By the way

I’m serious about that Dwight Howard scenario. I don’t see why a Franchise should admit they’re not good enough to land a superstar and so not pursue him, especially when they’ve said they’ll get one.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Feb 15, 2012 1:10 PM MST up reply actions  

howard wouldnt sign here. hes shown his true colors this year

when hes on a good team, and is constantly talking about where he would like to play in every city not named orlando. he wants to go to a big market city, we dont have a chance

by Berecki on Feb 15, 2012 1:12 PM MST up reply actions  

We do have a chance

We got to see what I kind of offers we can get for Gortat this deadline.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Feb 15, 2012 1:14 PM MST up reply actions  

im affraid howard is going to be a laker some way some how.

i dunno if you have read some articles about him, but he has become a bigger diva than Aretha Franklin this year. howard wants to be in a city where he can be a celebrity as well, trust me

by Berecki on Feb 15, 2012 1:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Nah, we can't accept a losers mentality

We have to try. Our FO wouldn’t be doing all they can unless they try.

The Lakers may very well be the Favorites and they do have a great asset in Bynum who’s playing incredibly well. However, so did we in 2008. We had Marion and Amar’e to deal. We were the favorites to land KG. He even said he wanted to play here. We were his top choice. He said he didn’t want to play in Boston. Then, the Celtics out of nowhere land Ray Allen and suddenly he changes his mind. We could do the same thing.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Feb 15, 2012 1:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Disney decides to move their offices to PHX

and BAM! He can be a superstar here!

Voted most likely to say "I told you so"

by jc79 on Feb 15, 2012 1:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Of course
im starting to think about routing against the suns

It’s the least a true fan could do.

BAMF goes HAM.

by brian13 on Feb 15, 2012 12:50 PM MST up reply actions  

if everyone wants to just keep their pom poms out and think everything is fine. then i guess thats your prerogative

i think part of the problem is no one has any expectations. every suns fan it seems has the attitude of “oh well, we have been competitve and fun to watch” and puts no expectations on the team. no one puts expectations on the team, the team then has no pressure to perform and simply smiles taking checks to the bank. have expectations people, other wise their is no hope

by Berecki on Feb 15, 2012 12:55 PM MST up reply actions  

I am with you Berecki

Not giving up on my team, but frustrated as a fan could be. So many players were passed up on for what, this team of d-leaguersers? I do not see any plan and am at the point of hopelessess. This coming from a 30+ year fan.

by rdgroce on Feb 15, 2012 1:10 PM MST up reply actions  

so your kind of with me...

heres the thing. u either do nothing and have no plan. or you get something in return for these guys. whats the better scenario? I think u can get a lottery pick and a good prospet player for nash right now in a 3 team deal. better than in 2 years having nothing. some of these other role players have some value too

by Berecki on Feb 15, 2012 1:16 PM MST up reply actions  

A risky alternative, although I doubt they'd want to take it

Is to trade Nash and Gortat to the Celtics for Rondo and a 1st round pick. They were dealing him earlier in the season, so they might consider this.

The only reason I would do that trade is so I could have a young all-star guard to help land Dwight Howard in the summer. Very risky though. I think I’d rather go with my plan above.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Feb 15, 2012 1:23 PM MST up reply actions  

not a bad plan

though i really dont think there is anyway we get howard. if im wrong ill be the happiest man alive, but i really doubt it

by Berecki on Feb 15, 2012 1:26 PM MST up reply actions  

even if the suns somehow convinced dwight to come here (which would be awesome, but astronomically unlikely), and even if we signed nash for another couple of years,

i still don’t see the suns as better than a 5 or 6 seed in the west without a wing who can score. D12 is great, but i don’t know if he’ll ever be the best player on a championship team. The second-best player? definitely. he’s got a little too much lebron in him: he likes to win, but he’s never become a stone-cold killer when it mattered (like kobe, for instance)

now, here’s an unrealistic-but-still-fun-to-imagine scenario:

sign dwight to a max deal, bring back steve, draft wisely, then go after james harden in the summer of 2013.

it’ll never happen, but still.

Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."

~Jack Burton, "Big Trouble in Little China"

by u_must_chill on Feb 15, 2012 1:55 PM MST up reply actions  

so i did...

as long as we’re fantasizing, how ’bout eric gordon?

Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."

~Jack Burton, "Big Trouble in Little China"

by u_must_chill on Feb 15, 2012 2:30 PM MST up reply actions  

We've already fantasized about him quite a bit.

It’ll all depend on the price. With his injuries, he may come cheaper, but his boss is David Stern, so I don’t know really.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Feb 15, 2012 4:33 PM MST up reply actions  

I think Sarver bet on a hard cap and lost

We had cleared all this room thinking we could pick up good players from teams having to shed players. And it didn’t happen.

Now we have “flexibility” whatever that means.

Voted most likely to say "I told you so"

by jc79 on Feb 15, 2012 1:50 PM MST reply actions  

the key this offseason is going to be prudence and caution

i cannot imagine a worse scenario than banker bob doing a repeat of the summer of 2010 (except on an even larger scale): overspending on marginal players just because we have the money

Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."

~Jack Burton, "Big Trouble in Little China"

by u_must_chill on Feb 15, 2012 2:03 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree

I definitely think Sarver was counting on that hard cap. I still remember his presser that had him saying how he wanted to be ready for how the new landscape of the NBA was going to be after a new CBA (In the Amar’e departure summer).

I am, however, glad we have so much cap flexibility though. We just have to learn from last offseason and not spend money just to spend it. Make sound decisions.

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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by Airwave on Feb 15, 2012 2:56 PM MST up reply actions  

We can't tank either

Not if they re-sign Nash. So no more signing a Shannon Brown to a one year deal. At least bring in a couple good role players for a reasonable price and save the rest for a star player the following summer(s). Hopefully, that’s the worst case scenario. Best case scenario, we get Dwight Howard:)

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Feb 15, 2012 3:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Why did this turn into a group rosterbation?

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Feb 15, 2012 3:29 PM MST reply actions  

It's simple
A lot of these close games are going to come down to making jump shots b/c the Suns are a jump shooting team.

Good article and thanks for breaking the late game execution down for us Seth, but we all knew the Suns would live and die by the jumpshot since last season. Steve Nash said it best, “We need more talent”. That is the only answer to our problems and so we’re now trying to figure out how to get Dwight Howard. If anything, we’re actually staying on topic. You cannot write a post specifically about the Suns failures and not expect rosterbation to follow.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Feb 15, 2012 3:41 PM MST up reply actions  

some people sooth themselves with rosterbation, others break down Ronnie Price’s inability to get the ball in to the post against Nate Robinson. To each his own.

Twitter me at: @sethpo

by Seth Pollack on Feb 15, 2012 3:58 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Even the optimists

It’s weird for me, because at the beginning of the season I was pretty negative about our team, however I was just being honest. Now I’m being optimistic, yet still honest.

By the way, this response isn’t targeted at you Ray or haremoor. It’s for everybody to see.

I’m the one who started the group rosterbation. My response was to someone who was being sort of negative. I didn’t tell him/her to be optimistic about things. I told him the truth. Something big is going to happen this summer. I expect this team will either become playoff caliber, maybe even championship caliber or they will rebuild. To me, any of those scenarios is better than where we’re at now and that’s something to look forward to. Nothing wrong with speculating those scenarios no matter how unrealistic they seem.

I understand getting Dwight Howard would probably be the biggest miracle that’s ever happened to this franchise and that it is highly unrealistic. Although, It can happen, it happened to the Celtics as I explained above. I’m not counting on getting the guy. It’s just that we haven’t really talked about it. We’ve immediately shot it down as if there is 0 chance. That’s not optimism, yet all the optimist were telling me and others at the beginning of the season to be a little faithful.

Seth said it best above, we deal with things differently. I rosterbate, he breaks down games, others joke… This is our hobby, we got to make it fun and I’m just having fun. On an article like this, we have to expect people to have their fun in different ways and we’ve had some good conversation, so I’d say it was a success.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Feb 15, 2012 4:30 PM MST up reply actions  

This
On an article like this, we have to expect people to have their fun in different ways and we’ve had some good conversation, so I’d say it was a success.

Twitter me at: @sethpo

by Seth Pollack on Feb 15, 2012 5:32 PM MST up reply actions  

I think the bench did its job

9 pts in 10 possessions isn’t good, but for the bench it isn’t horrible.

I’d rather look at what we did with Nash in during the final minutes:
9 pts in 12 possessions… =-(
3 open 3-pointers (0/3)
3 contested 3-pointers (1/3)
2 mid-range jumpers (1/2)
4 short-range shots (2/4)

We lost because we missed all our long range shots, and didn’t get any free throws at all.

Voted most likely to say "I told you so"

by jc79 on Feb 15, 2012 5:00 PM MST reply actions  

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