Suns Trade Deadline Moves
by wedge1039 on Feb 20, 2012 10:36 AM MST
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PrintWith the trade deadline coming up in a few weeks, what are some moves you think/hope the Suns will make? Let's assume for this discussion that they are not going to trade Nash and blow up the team (since the front office continues to say that is the case). I think we can all agree that the Suns' main problems are not having a go-to scorer, and the backup point guard situation. Without messing up next summer's cap space, I think the backup pg would be the easiest to address right now. Mainly because anyone they could get, regardless where he comes from, would be better than Sebastian Telfair.
Personally, I would like to see them move Lopez for a point guard and maybe a late draft pick. Lopez is a young 7 foot center who has been moving better this year, but needs more playing time to be effective, and he's not going to steal minutes from Gortat right now. I find it hard to believe there's no one out there willing to take a chance on FroLo if they can get him fairly cheap. Maybe Lopez to Houston for Johnny Flynn and a pick? Houston needs a center, and has Lowry and Dragic already at the point...
What are some other realistic moves you think we could pull off in the next few weeks?
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Like you daid a backup point would be nice
Maybe moving lopez to golden state for rush.
Maybe throw in other small player to make it work.
He is a stanford man.
Depends on if we get brooks back from china in time.
Id also try to see us to aquire picks anyway possible the doesnt involve nash gortat morris and mayyybe dudz.
Also lets get marcus morris. Houston isnt using him and if theyll take lopez id say for for it.
Especially if his SF forward game has developed. A morris morris gortat line up! Talk about playing big
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by phxpurple on Feb 20, 2012 11:35 AM MST via Android app reply actions
I was about to say Marcus Morris
We tried to acquire him on draft night but didn’t want to give up a future 1st. I bet Lopez and Brown would be enough for Morris and Flynn. It gives the Rockets a bit more cap space in the free agency and with Morris behind about 4 players in the depth chart I can see them moving him.
Besides Lopez and Brown, I can’t see us making a trade. Maybe something for a late first round pick and an expiring contract.
And if we don’t trade for a PG or sign Brooks, we might sign Earl Boykins or another free agent.
I would do that deal in a heartbeat
I feel like Houston would not move Marcus this early after drafting him, even if he was behind some other players. I would love to get him though, and I really like Flynn as our backup point guard (not our point guard of the future, just our backup for right now.
Tom Leander doesn't understand what "rock bottom" means.
you don't want Flynn
Trust a MN fan on this one. His is the anti-Nash, picks up his dribble where he shouldn’t, throws terrible passes (to be fair he can find open shooters, but can’t feed the post) often jumps without having anywhere to go with the ball, and regularly dribbles off his own foot.
Do you have a link to that?
It’s news to me.
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by East Bay Ray on Feb 20, 2012 2:17 PM MST up reply actions
Found it
“On draft night, the Suns explored the possibility of trading for Houston’s No. 14 pick to draft Marcus as well as Markieff. The cost of a future first-round pick was too much.”
Crazy
we need to get him lol even if the cost is a little ridiculous. anybody but Nash, Gortat and Morris are expendable. and no giving away DP’s
I think this team just cares about selling tickets
and having twins will do that.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
would you pay to see Iverson sit on the bench?
if Vince Carter didnt sell tickets and Michael Redd doesnt sell tickets then neither would Allen Iverson. aging stars are not what people want to see
That's because they haven't had the foresight
to put them into steel cage matches during halftime.
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You honestly don't think having twins would be great for marketing?
I mean who in their right mind would give our first round pick for Marcus Morris? And I agree with what miketheboss said, Allen Iverson wouldn’t even get off the bench.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
I was being sarcastic about Iverson. Having twins would be good for marketing, but it isn’t going to make anyone who currently doesn’t come to games now come to games. If that makes sense :/
Yeah, if they do well it would be
Twin-sanity.
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by Suns R Us on Feb 20, 2012 9:52 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec for that!
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"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."
Don't trade Beavis
After reading that I hope we can get Marcus..I still think he can play
by Lebrontophx2010 on Feb 20, 2012 7:25 PM MST up reply actions
I still think a Lopez for Bledsoe trade
with the Clippers is worth exploring. I’m not sure what other pieces would have to be part of that for it to work.
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love it
but not sure if they are willing after Mr. Big shot went Ancient Greece on them…
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by Piotr Szczesniak on Feb 21, 2012 8:48 AM MST up reply actions
Aaron Brooks
Bring him back, and problem solve
by Penny Hardaway on Feb 29, 2012 3:27 AM MST up reply actions
Jonny Flynn? That would not be a good move at all. Giving up Lopez to get him is similar to giving up the 1st rounder with Dragic for Brooks: overpaying for what is at best a marginal improvement and may not be any better at all. He truly has been horrible in the NBA.
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In my scenario we would GET a pick in the deal
That is what I want to see the most. Turn Lopez, who isn’t offering us much right now, into another draft pick. And we might as well try to add on another backup pg candidate if the other team has one available. Not saying it would need to be Flynn, or that he would be great, but anyone would be an improvement over Telfair.
Tom Leander doesn't understand what "rock bottom" means.
Is his contract that bad?
I can’t imagine Houston would have given him so bad of a contract that it would limit our moves significantly. Besides I would be okay taking on a little bit of salary in exchange for another first round pick.
But my main point actually wasn’t that they should go out and get Flynn, it was that I think they should use Lopez to address the point guard problem, and maybe get another pick. Flynn was just a name I threw out because I figured he would probably be available.
Tom Leander doesn't understand what "rock bottom" means.
They didn't pick up Flynn's option
So he is a UFA at the end of the year, he is only on his rookie contract. They do have New York’s pick which they might give up as well.
No chance
They aren’t moving picks or players – they are building cap space / expiring contracts for a run at a star (Pau is still on Houston’s radar I am sure).
In the NBA, you need to get stars, and trading terrible bench pieces isn’’t going to help a team like Houston. The Suns, however, maybe.
Rockets need size
I would love to see a rolo morris swap,However if d. moray sucked a first rounder out of babbs and blanks in the dragic brooks deal god only knows what they would throw in for this one.
skitsophrenics are never alone-Just ask scott howard
Flynn is TERRIBLE
Just awful. He benefits from the “former lottery pick” syndrome – where guys drafted high retain perceived value, despite being out played by, lets say, Jeremy Lin.
With Flynn it is weird, because he wasn’t considered a lottery pick until a week before the draft, when KAHN took him 6th. He was never as good as Lawson, or any of the other 5 PGs to go 1st round that year.
Flynn is an unrestricted FA next year – why would we trade anything for him?
And for reference
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/flynnjo01.html – Flynn has a career .402 FG% and .340 4FG%, but he has got worse every year. He’s just not NBA caliber, and we’d be better off with Blake Ahearn, JamesOn Curry of another D League try-er.
THIS.
I’m tired of the “we need a backup poing guard” cry. Yes, we do, but it’s because ours is in China. Do we not have Brooks when he’s done over there? I’ve been trying to defend the guy ever since he got here, because I strongly believe he is one of, if not THE best backup point guard in the league.
Chasing some fringe/possibly rising backup PG right now would be pointless. I honestly believe Brooks is the perfect backup for the team we have right now. Our bench needs a leader, someone to control the game, and most importantly, someone to provide an offensive threat. Brooks is capable of that. I’m not sure there’s a more perfect backup poing guard for our current roster.
Sign Brooks to an extension, re-sign Nash, spend the next 8 months doing everything possible to acquire the best player to put alongside Nash and Gortat. Preferably a shooting guard.
by iwasneveryoung on Feb 20, 2012 4:47 PM MST up reply actions
I would be okay with Brooks coming back
I liked him when he was at Oregon, and felt he would improve with the Suns once he got more comfortable. That said, I personally don’t expect to see him back in Phoenix after he returns from China. He is not under contract with us, and I don’t have the feeling that the front office is going to match an offer made from another team. They didn’t appear to be that impressed with his attitude at the end of last season. We’ll see though. Like I said, I have no problems giving him a second chance. Sounds like he is tearing it up in China.
Tom Leander doesn't understand what "rock bottom" means.
Everything I have heard from Seth and others
Says they are NOT going to re sign Brooks…. “they don’t like his attitude or play”
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This just doesn't make any sense to me.
I literally can’t think of ONE prospective backup PG who would be better for our needs than Brooks. Last year’s injured-half-season doesn’t warrant such a conclusive judgement of his play. And fuck attitude, who cares. He had some stupid little outbursts, big deal. There’s much worse players out there. Most of the league’s most dominant players have horrible attitudes. As long as it’s not poisoning the team, I don’t think we should complain about attitudes at all.
I’m confused tho… is he not already on our team for the remainder of the season? My understanding was that he’s under contract with us this year.
by iwasneveryoung on Feb 20, 2012 5:18 PM MST up reply actions
He is not under contract
I believe he is a restricted free agent, so we could match an offer made by other teams. I’m not positive though
Tom Leander doesn't understand what "rock bottom" means.
Yes.
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Does anyone know
if there are other teams who are expected to make him an offer?
by iwasneveryoung on Feb 20, 2012 6:05 PM MST up reply actions
Effort matters, therefore attitude means something
Having a player here, who absolutely doesn’t want to be here, and is going to half-ass his way around the court isn’t going to be beneficial.
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If that is the case
And he doesn’t want to be in PHX, then I hope he sits out the season so we can sign and trade him
I guess I just didn't see that as the case last year,
and I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. He never seemed like he wasn’t putting in the effort. He just got frustrated sometimes. That’s excusable. I mean I guess I don’t know very much about the situation but I think we, especially as Suns fans, tend to look too much into this kind of thing. I think Suns fans have been especially harsh on Brooks. I just can’t stand that we complain about him when the reality of the alternative is Sebastian Telfair…
by iwasneveryoung on Feb 20, 2012 6:03 PM MST up reply actions
I am just telling you what the organization said man
I would like him back too but if they feel that way I don’t see him returning
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Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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Yeah for sure, I know.
I’m just expressing my disagreement with that whole argument they seem to have.
by iwasneveryoung on Feb 20, 2012 6:14 PM MST up reply actions
Who are the others?
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
Brooks is key, Scorer is goal
Suns need to bring back Brooks, and get a freakin’ scorer. And when I mean scorer, not the likes of Shannon Brown, but the likes of J-Rich. Beasley & Ellis are two on the trading blocks
by Penny Hardaway on Feb 29, 2012 3:29 AM MST up reply actions
Marcus Morris and Michael Beasley!
and sign Brooks. I dont how but they should try and find a way to make it happen
For what?
Beasley is awful, and Morris is not going anywhere.
out of curiosity what does Beasley offer that you need
and would Beasley + Ridnour work for Dudley??? (please)
A lot of people here still love his potential as a go-to scorer.
And hands of our Dudz.
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not bad
my idea was Ellis & Beasley for Warrick, Brown, Price, Telfair, Childress, Lopez, and Brown, and Brown
by Penny Hardaway on Feb 29, 2012 3:31 AM MST up reply actions
To old
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by phxpurple on Feb 20, 2012 9:31 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
If we want to contend and not rebuild then we should do it.
Only assets we have is our 1st round pick and Gortat.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
*are
not is, I meant to originally write asset, but then I included Gortat and changed it to assets, never fixed the is.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
The only way I do this deal
But hoe does it help us? its more of a layeral mobe for both teams. Lakers lose a a PF for another center unless u put gortat at the 4.
Then we lose our best center in decades for a 4-5 who doesnt play D or bang down low. Maybe a 3 way trade would work in where minny gets pau, LA gets gortat,
And we get Dwill or beas and someones first round pick.
Along with sone thrown in players it could be a good deal. It makes minny a contender though
Rubio
Dudley? Price? Gadlock?(all via the trade
Beas or dwill(whoevers left)
Love
Pau
Just need a lil more depth whivh could be gotten from the trade
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by phxpurple on Feb 21, 2012 3:47 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
You suck at typing on a phone, huh?
;-)
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Fat thumbs
:/
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by phxpurple on Feb 21, 2012 12:20 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Trade Markieff Morris
I would like to see a trade of Markieff Morris and Jared Dudley for Derrick Williams.
Minny wouldn't do that.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
Minny would probably do that, but we shouldnt
Yes I love Derrick Williams, I watch UA bball religously, Derrick was a beast and unstoppable in college. But his skill set and non defensive attitude has not translated well to the NBA. He is caught between SF and PF and doesn’t seem to know where he fits. Rick Adelman isn’t very happy with him from what I have read because he gives no effort on D. He’s to small to gaurd 4s and he’s to big to hang with NBA 3s.
Kieff has totally outplayed him so far this year, and is a legit PF. Kieff has a post game, a jumpshot, defense, rebounding, passing….. He should be ROY but we all know Rubio will get it. Not only are we giving up our rookie who has outperformed DWill thus far and plays with 100% effort and heart on both ends, and is slowly pushing Frye back to the backup Center, but we are giving up our championship caliber 6th man. Dudley is a beast and does EVERYTHING.
If you said Kieff for DWill straight up then MAYBE I do this. MAYBE. There have been better college players then Derrick Williams that have not lived up to their draft status once they got to the NBA. Why give up a proven commodity in Kieff, for an unknown in Williams?
by SmokinKieff on Feb 21, 2012 5:07 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
And yes, my Screen name probably makes me look bias
But I assure you, I loved Dwill more then his parents did when he was in that Wildcat uni. And I was completely and utterly against drafting Markieff Morris. But the kid has been the best rookie in the NBA and has played better then anybody said he could.
by SmokinKieff on Feb 21, 2012 5:13 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
While I agree with a lot of what you said,
Kieff isn’t the best rookie. Irving (ROY) and Rubio have both been better, and there have been a few players on the same level as Kieff. But that’s not a slight against him. A top 5-7 rookie picked at 13? I’ll take it.
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Keiff has definitly out played all those high pick Euro guys
After the finals went dirk nowiwskti went off EVERYBODY wanted to gets themselves a euro stretch 4-5. Haha delusional owners not realizes dirk is a one in a 1000 player that took 6 years to make. So this year we had a ton of these euro guys go in the top 20. In a normal year keiff eould have gone a few spots higher(I’d have to go back and see who all was take head of him)
I was pissed off because its these shiity euro guys who keep guys like jeremy lin from going undrafted.
I remember at the 2010 fraft combine there was a report about some guy who was owning johm wall in practice. They said it was some random harvard asian kid who was taking it to him. Nobody cared. They were all " oh well john has wayyy more upside"
Today jeremy lin is the shit and john wall is a shitstain.
Moral of the story?
STOP DRAFTING SHITTY BiGS FOR THIS HIGH “UPSIDES NONSENSE” NOT EVERY TALL WGITE GUY WITH LONG HAIR IS GONNA BE THE NEXT DIRK!
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by phxpurple on Feb 21, 2012 12:29 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Enes Kanter is probably going to be a very good player. He’s still really young and didn’t play competitive ball at all last year, so he was expected to take some time.
Jonas Valanciunas is going to be a stud when he gets here.
We saw Jan Vesely last night. Hurt most of the year, doesn’t have an NBA position. He’s athletic, though, right?
Those are the lottery Euros off the top of my head. The first 2 I would take ahead of Kieff. Definitely not Vesely though. despite him having the nickname “Dunking NInja.”
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True that
I forgot about Irving. Rubio isn’t really a rookie he’s been playing professional basketball in Europe since he was 16. This is as good as Rubio will ever be you can take that to the bank.
But besides the #1 draft pick, Kieff is basically the second best rookie. There are other guys with similar statistics (leonard, DWill) but none play the kind of D that Kieff does. He is sick on the defensive end. STUPID GOOD for a rookie PF. Hell he was gaurding Gasol and actually did a good job considering Gasol is 7’1 and a premier PF in the league.
I take Kieff over any rookie except Irving.
by SmokinKieff on Feb 21, 2012 6:21 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Minnesota wouldn't do that.
Wolves fan. Maybe you’d like to make your argument that the Wolves should consider such a trade, but no, they wouldn’t. First off, if Minnesota’s trading Derrick Williams it’s not to get a principle part back that’s a rookie PF. The whole thing with him is simply that the Wolves can’t play him much at the four because they’ve got Kevin Love beasting there; any move is largely for “fit.”
Nor are the Wolves eager to “part out” Williams, their highest pick ever, into two pieces – given their full roster, that’s not going to happen. If anything they’re wanting to “boil down” some of the talent like Williams, Anthony Randolph, Beasley…. Did you notice how all those guys are “natural” PFs, more or less? Yeah, so, trading Williams for PFs? Not high on the list.
(Your description of Derrick W’s faults is basically subject to the “I’m talking down the other team’s assets” Doppler effect when it comes to prospective trades. Adelmen basically said he was asking Williams to set aside the SF spot for now in training camp. Williams hasn’t been in the dog house, he’s mostly just on a roster thick with people at his natural spot. In the last game before the All Star break, he was in for the entire Fourth in a huge comeback as the Wolves snuck one out.)
The last thing we want to do is take long twos. It's still on our list, though.
did you miss the Dudley part of the equation feral?
We may have to amnesty Darko to make room on the roster but picking up Dudley would be great IMO (I don’t really want Morris but a big body to back up Love isn’t a bad thing).
No, I didn't miss it.
But see, a decent PF (redundant spot) and a nice wing in Dudley are what I’d call “parting out” the Williams asset.
If anything the Wolves would like to clear a slot or two by “boiling down” some talent, not slice it up more. The roster’s already full of PF types behind Love.
Not that Dudley wouldn’t clearly start in Minnesota, given the total vacuum on the wing, but that’s not the guts of a Derrick Williams trade for me.
The last thing we want to do is take long twos. It's still on our list, though.
I've never been all that high on Williams as a number 2 pick and I guess it shows in my trade proposals
I think a dream scenario would be Williams for Mathews (looks to be the odd man out in Por) or Reddick with Dudley / Rush /Morrow as secondary targets. All of these guys actually produce while Williams is still potential and I thought Valancuinas was the real upside guy in the draft.
Even if the Wolves don't value him that highly,
and even if the PF market is somewhat thick, I think you still want to deal Derrick W. for more than Wesley Matthews. Sure, Matthews “produces”… some. PER 13.3 right now? WP/48 at that .100 level? An okay, borderline starter type in the right place? You should be able to get more.
The last thing we want to do is take long twos. It's still on our list, though.
yeah Mathews is a bit low on the totem pole but
My Batum dreams have been shattered recently.
We're waiting on a potential Doug Collins blow-up there,
but maybe he’s turned the Karl corner and won’t be going there.
Or maybe, just maybe, he’ll win the coveted “Coach of the Year, Firee of Next Year” award. Yeah! Keep dreamin’.
The last thing we want to do is take long twos. It's still on our list, though.
What happened with Batum?
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I still like him
It just looks more and more apparent that Portland is going to keep him (he’s starting now at the 2 and killing it) and they were just lowballing him on the chance they were able to save some money. In short Willliams + Ridnour (they need a PG) is nowhere near what it would take to get Batum (IMO) even though he will be a RFA.
Shift happens, caps lock is on purpose.
Addendum
I think it’s more likely they pay for a year then release Wallace (who will be 32?) and sign Batum long term.
Shift happens, caps lock is on purpose.
Do you think Wallace picks up his option or goes for his next contract now before he gets too old/injured?
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I always expected them to keep Batum. They absolutely love the guy up there.
But with the minutes he was getting early on, I started to think there was a chance.
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interesting question
I’ve been assuming he’ll pick up the option on the assumption that no one else will pay someone his age what he’s making now, but I’m starting to reconsider since getting a 3-4 year contract at $8mil/year could be much more valuable to him.I still think he picks up the option and goes to FA the year after that hopefully still effective.
Shift happens, caps lock is on purpose.
I think I might test the market, especially with the way the Blazers have been playing lately.
D-Will and Dwight are unquestionably the top targets, but there’s a strong chance neither are available. Who’s the next unrestricted guy? Most of the other top FAs are restricted. So theoretically, the market for Crash could be pretty expansive, and he could lock in a 4 or so year deal now.
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yeah the guys I've been looking at are the RFA
Lee, Batum, Mayo etc. … not in that order.
Shift happens, caps lock is on purpose.
Id hate this trade
But why wouldnt they. They get a solid backup D instead of a SF tweener.
Also a solid guy in duds to play the wings.
Althiugh I think it eould be wise to wait until FA and snag beas since him and Dwill are the same minus the head problems.
Beas is still very young and could use a fresh start.
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by phxpurple on Feb 21, 2012 9:00 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
Because
A role player + a prospect do not = a #2 pick.
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I would do that
I’ve wanted Dudley on MN all year. Our 3 position is a giant vortex of gruesome play. Either we roll with Johnson who defends alright but can’t chuck a ball into the ocean, Webster who hasn’t been the same since his back injury or minimal defense Beasley who stops the ball on offense and runs iso plays for himself. We’re I Kahn I would give you Williams straight up for Dudley.
What about a shooting guard?
Would anyone be interested in Stephen Jackson from the Bucks? He’s got two years left at 9 million per, but I think he would provide some of that scoring we need. What about a trade for Robin Lopez and insert small forward not named J.D. here (Childress or Warrick, perhaps)?
by spf13 on Feb 21, 2012 1:23 PM MST via mobile reply actions
No.
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ATTITUDE!!! No
Fan of the TEAM not a player.
by Suns Fan For Life on Feb 22, 2012 10:06 AM MST up reply actions
Definitely not
He is good when he cares, but he is not worth the trouble.
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Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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Vin"I'm not gonna try and I'm too old to be good"sanity
all over again…
"Nash is 25 and Hill is 27. It doesn't matter what it says in their birth certificates. Lies, all lies."-Scott Howard Cooper, NBA.com
Lets just sit pat
Unless someone offers us a backup 1/2 who can defend and a pick.
Otherwise, we are what we are, and next year’s FA extravaganza is the goal.
THIS IS THE SOLUTION
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7rxt9f5
Why wouldn’t it work for both teams?
The Clippers get a backup for DeAndre and relieve the logjam at PG and get rid of a roster filler 3rd string PF (which can help us out a little bit if we move Frye to backup C playing some minutes with the bench).
I can’t see any wrongs in that. Bledsoe is the shizzle – and would be getting better if not for extremely limited minutes.
Suns FO – lets do this!!!!!!!!
Feed the cutter!!!
by Piotr Szczesniak on Feb 21, 2012 3:10 PM MST reply actions
Love that trade
I think Bledsoe is a good young player, but I dunno if LA does it. I’m all for it tho
by SmokinKieff on Feb 21, 2012 6:26 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
HOW does Cook get negative PER???
"Nash is 25 and Hill is 27. It doesn't matter what it says in their birth certificates. Lies, all lies."-Scott Howard Cooper, NBA.com
Here is my idea
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7nypws8
Thoughts?
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Why exactly would Portland do this?
Give up talent and take on two bad contracts? Are you kidding? I think the -9 wins for Portland should have given you the hint its not a good trade for them.
by Fakers Stink on Feb 21, 2012 10:30 PM MST up reply actions
I don't think that's very good for the suns in the short term.
Giving up two big men and not receiving any in return. Limits our bigs to kieff, warrick, and tat.
Wow
Some of these “let’s do anything, we are desperate” trades mentioned here are scary. Come on all, lets accept what we are at this point, a below .500 team. A miracle run to the playoffs just yields a quick exit. We aren’t bad enough to get top lottery positioning, but a #10 pick this year should be pretty good talent. As bad as some of these players have been like Telfair and Brown, the FO wisely saw the need to just try things with low risk contracts and hope 1 or 2 work out. Looks to me like Redd may be a low risk that works out without hurting the budget. If we make trades we should do the same, take low risks and see if anything works out. Lopez or Warrick for an underachieving bench player in his first few years wouldn’t be a bad deal.
BEST PLAN EVER
Sign Brooks, make trade with Lopez, and possibly, if Blazers amnesty him, Oden.
Blazers just signed Pryzabilla and they are gonna have to amnesty someone for Joel’s contract. Possibly Oden. If they do, Suns should IMMEDIATELY sign him, I know the guy has insane physical problems, but think about Hill. Hill’s career was gonna be over, the once almost triple double averaging guy done. But the Suns picked him up and revived his career, and now he is playing AMAZING for a 39 yr old. Think about what we could do with the young Oden, a former number one draft pick. He. Has. Potential. He is a great player if he could just stay healthy, if we sign him, we can revive him just like we did to Hill and Redd. Oden could first be a backup center, and then sometimes we could put him at the 5 and Gortat at the 4 because I heard Gortat would be fine playing at the 4. I know that Oden as a backup 5 would be better but just sharing ideas. Oden is a defensive beast, he can block insanely. He would give us the presence we r missing from Lopez, also Oden is good offensively. He wasn’t chosen number 1 for nothing. If we can, lets revive him.
"Nash is 25 and Hill is 27. It doesn't matter what it says in their birth certificates. Lies, all lies."-Scott Howard Cooper, NBA.com
Very much worth trying
but I think the PTL already has that plan in progress.
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I'd be all for Oden
Our medical staff is amazing, and Redd seems to be doing fine reviving his career here.
Joe Saunders: "They Giants played a really good game, so hats off to us"
If by PTL you mean Portland
I’m not really good with abbreviations so I don’t really know, but if u are talking about them, I think they are fed up with Oden, they’ve tried so hard but can’t seem to get him to be healthy. They need to shed a contract, oh look they have an injury prone player that can’t seem to get on the court for more than 30 games, GREG ODEN! That would be much smarter than shedding other younger, less injury prone players. We should take that chance because we don’t have a very good future in front of us besides Gortat and Kieff, we can afford the risk to have an all star potential center.
"Nash is 25 and Hill is 27. It doesn't matter what it says in their birth certificates. Lies, all lies."-Scott Howard Cooper, NBA.com
They already amnestied Roy, didn't they?
I don’t think they will just waive him for the amount of his contract. I think they’d certainly entertain some trade offers for him, though.
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That they did
No more amnesty for Portland.
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No I though roy just retired so they didnt have to use the amnesty?
Thats why they were pushing for him to retire
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by phxpurple on Mar 1, 2012 1:12 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
Deadline moves?
Sure, in response to Gentry’s “We got to get mad” speech a few days ago, this trade is actually bound to happen.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7s7lklq
Yes, we would be giving up our 2012 1st round pick to Milwaukee.
Don't trade Dudley!
Mad as in angry, not insane.
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Well so much for my "Alice in Wonderland" plan for the roster...
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