Los Angeles Lakers Ownership Mess Provides Plenty Of Schadenfreude
by Seth Pollack on Feb 21, 2012 9:54 AM MST
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PrintPhoenix Suns fans are not alone in deriving extra special pleasure in seeing the Los Angeles Lakers fail. Kings fans, Clippers fans, Trail Blazers fans and, of course, Celtics fans all share in the joy that comes with beating the Lakers on the court or seeing them struggle off.
There is no word in the English language that expresses this feeling better than "Schadenfreude" which roughly translates from German to: "to observe or think about something with triumphant and often malicious satisfaction, gratification, or delight"
That pretty much sums up the feeling non-Lakers fans get when reading about the mess that has become of the Los Angeles Lakers ownership and front office.
Enjoy:
Kobe's frustration a reflection on Lakers' deteriorating front office - NBA - CBSSports.com News
The Lakers are a mess, have been decaying for a few years now. Once one of the finest and classiest organizations in sports, it is no longer a fun place to work, to put it mildly. From the Odom salary dump to nearly the entire scouting staff being thrown overboard, pennies are being pinched at a time when the Lakers have entered a 20-year regional cable deal worth a reported $3 billion."For such a storied franchise, supposedly first class and all that, it's not what you think behind the bars there," said the person who has dealt with the Lakers as a longtime executive with other teams. "It's overrated."
You really need to read the entire article to get the full sense (and pleasure) of the situation.
It's a good day to be a Laker-hater.
Here's how the Lakers fans are seeing things (in case you needed more reason to smile):
The Los Angeles Lakers And The Fall Of Empires - Silver Screen and Roll
You don't need to read between the lines to see storm clouds gathering around the Los Angeles Lakers. You need only observe the negativity surrounding all facets of the franchise.
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Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.
Mark of a Beast, baby. Mark of a Beast.
by NashMV3 on Feb 21, 2012 10:15 AM MST reply actions 7 recs
I don't really care for the franchise itself
I SEVERELY DISLIKE their fans…99% of them along with Matt Barnes, Metal World War, and Josh McRoberts, and Bynum. Kobe will be Kobe so i dont care about him. The fans are the type of fans that will rub it on your face when they’re winning and then jump off the bandwagon when they’re losing and root for another team coughClipperscough. Most of them are Asian too which I’m embarrassed about when I see the way they act.
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by modernage13 on Feb 21, 2012 10:41 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
One of the worst fan bases in sports IMO
Even though they have so many “fans”. I hate their fans so much.
"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!
The part that upsets me the most
is half of them don’t even know the game of basketball. They just buy the jerseys cause they think they’re cool or girls wear them to impress their guy friends.
Twitter: @FredLegittt
Yep.....
I think the only team I find comparable to them are the Yankees in terms of shitty fans. But there are just so many of them everywhere!!!!!!!
"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!
I don't even watch baseball
and even I know Yankee fans suck!
Twitter: @FredLegittt
by modernage13 on Feb 21, 2012 10:04 PM MST up reply actions
One of the many plagues
"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!
ἐπιχαιρεκακί
The philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer mentioned Schadenfreude as the most evil sin of human feeling, saying famously “To feel envy is human, to savor schadenfreude is devilish.”
Alea iacta est!
And a few more!
Other researchers have found that people with low self-esteem are more likely to feel schadenfreude than are people who have high self-esteem.
A 2006 experiment suggests that men, but not women, enjoy seeing bad people suffer. The study was designed to measure empathy, by watching which brain centers are stimulated when subjects inside an fMRI observe someone experiencing physical pain. Researchers expected that the brain’s empathy center would show more stimulation when those seen as good got an electric shock than they would if the shock was given to someone the subject had reason to consider bad. This was indeed the case, but for male subjects the brain’s pleasure centers also lit up when someone else got a shock that the male thought was well-deserved.
What did we do before Wikipedia? Libraries?
Alea iacta est!
by PolishHammer on Feb 21, 2012 10:41 AM MST up reply actions
but hate is such a healthy part of sports!
It’s an outlet for our negative aggression and keeps us civil in the rest of life
Twitter me at: @sethpo
by Seth Pollack on Feb 21, 2012 10:43 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I just felt the need to quote some wikipedia
But I totally agree. Sports is a great replacement for war.
A friend, who played pool at a high amateur level, told me once: When playing, you want to destroy your opponent, you want to make him cry, never back down or go easy on it.
Alea iacta est!
by PolishHammer on Feb 21, 2012 11:25 AM MST up reply actions
Hm.
“Hate” and “healthy” somehow fail to fit really well. Or maybe I’m weird.
But, you can't spell "healthy" without "hate"
something my ol’ granddaddy doctor used to say…
by SteveNash, QuantumPhysicist on Feb 21, 2012 10:12 PM MST up reply actions
2 interesting things about all this
Thing 1: A week ago Kobe was proud to let everyone know how much he enjoyed beating the Suns due to 2006-7.
Two nights ago Kobe was beat by the Suns, which would normally have caused alot of questions by the press about getting beat by the team he hates the most. Totally coincidentally, he chose that night to address an an issue which had been going on for the entire season, and on a night when Gasol played perfectly fine(17/12), even earning more time than Bynum down the stretch. Gosh, what are the odds.
Things 2: 5 seasons have passed since the last season we’ve knocked them out of the playoffs. Although he’s briefly mentioned the issue previously, he didn’t make a point of it until now. Not when we still had all out SSOL crew, not when we had shaq, and not when we were playing them in 2010. No, not until it was clear we were a safe target devoid of our past glory, in the bottom of the standings, did he bravely decide to stick it to the suns organization. Bravo Kobe.
Oh and btw: Suns 102, Laker 80. Chew on that you jackass.
by Fritzy on Feb 21, 2012 11:11 AM MST reply actions 10 recs
I really like your two things.
"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."
Don't trade Beavis
by haremoor on Feb 21, 2012 1:41 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Cannot be rec'd enough
Fuck the Lakers
"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!
Schadenfruede makes the list
for my top 3 avocations along with narcissism and misanthropy.
If there’s anything more satisfying than pointing out the shortcomings of others, it is deriving pleasure from their misfortunes.
Sometimes it’s best to take the high road. That way objects you drop on your adversaries have time to gain momentum and inflict more damage.
This mirthful glee should be probably be tempered by the fact that, in a way, the Suns are still the punchline to the joke that nobody’s laughing at.
The Lakers are a greasefire, in part, because they lost to the lowly, pathetic Suns. Their imbroglio interwines with our incompetence. Lose to the Suns = time to blow it up. At least to a certain degree, I see this angle of the story.
Wouldn’t it be easier to be sated if the Suns were in the playoffs and the Lakers were in the cellar?
The best revenge is living well, not wishing ill. Time for the Suns to step up to the plate and give the fans here something to cheer about besides the possible demise of the Lakers.
It was only called the mildly irritated house on McDowell until I showed up.
by Jim Coughenour on Feb 21, 2012 11:37 AM MST reply actions 2 recs
wait a minute! You guys had me feeling guilty for feeling happy about the Lakers mess…BUT HOLD ON
it’s not like someone got injured or something, right? We’re talking about the wealthy Buss family doing silly things that can only hurt a LONG time division rival.
I am NOT GOING TO BE GUILTED INTO TAKING THE HIGH ROAD HERE!!!
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by Seth Pollack on Feb 21, 2012 2:55 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Please don't let someone as petty and shallow as me
prevent you from indulging in your harmless diversion.
Sometimes I just need a break from casting stones beacuse my arm gets tired. After all, situationally, a little evil can be good.
It was only called the mildly irritated house on McDowell until I showed up.
by Jim Coughenour on Feb 21, 2012 3:06 PM MST up reply actions
I'm just curious...
Joey Buss, another son of the owner who runs the team’s D-League franchise, has moved into Jackson’s old office. Jesse Buss, 23, who was arrested for alcohol intoxication in Lexington, Ky., on a “scouting” trip in December, has moved into Lester’s former office.
Is this why you never send Wil and me on “scouting trips”?
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by East Bay Ray on Feb 21, 2012 4:05 PM MST up reply actions
no…it’s b/c you don’t know what you are doing. We have higher standards than the Lakers
Twitter me at: @sethpo
by Seth Pollack on Feb 21, 2012 4:41 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Hey Seth..
I just liked the way Jim put it, but like you I was quite happy to read that article and see how screwed up that organization is.
One other point…while Kobe may have not stated his hate that clearly till recently, lets not forget that his almost off the charts play in the 2010 series (combined with an almost off the charts shooting display by the rest of his team) was the only reason we didn’t win that series. Yes we weren’t a great defensive team, but the lakers needed an other worldly shooting performance to eliminate us that year, and really have not been able to score the ball or shoot at that level since.
Great quote
Sometimes it’s best to take the high road. That way objects you drop on your adversaries have time to gain momentum and inflict more damage.
Where’d you get that from?
Voted most likely to say "I told you so"
That's all me.
Every once in a while, amidst the incoherent rambling, something salient and sapient slips out.
Call it the Wile E. Coyote morality principle. That would probably be the first example of the mechanic being employed which I witnessed.
It was only called the mildly irritated house on McDowell until I showed up.
by Jim Coughenour on Feb 21, 2012 1:55 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Sorry, Jim.
For today, anyway, Lakers suck. Suns rule.
That is all.
"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."
Don't trade Beavis
by haremoor on Feb 21, 2012 1:43 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Scads and scads of schadenfreude...
If I delight in seeing Sigmund fail, is that schadenFreude?
If I delight in seeing Ochocinco fail, is that sChadenfreude?
If I’m glad when a certain hobbit gets his finger bitten off, is that schadenFrodoe?
If it makes me happy to see Toucan Sam get fricasseed, is that schadenfreuteleupe?
If I want TNT’s biggest commentator to get fired, is that schaqenfreude?
If I want to see NYK’s new PG get karate chopped, is that shaoLinfreude?
If I cheer for Professor Moriarity, is that sh’lockenfreude?
If you all want me to please stop, is that ShNaQePhreude?
by SteveNash, QuantumPhysicist on Feb 21, 2012 10:39 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
Limpid. Laconic. Love it.
Lakers suck. Suns rule.
It was only called the mildly irritated house on McDowell until I showed up.
Marcin is laughing at the Lakers right now
I submit the following for our more negative denizens...
Scheissenbedaurn
Scheissenbedaurn is the vague sense of disappointment that something thought to be really bad or in awful taste turns out to be not as bad as expected. (From the German, meaning literally: “shit-regret”)
"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."
Don't trade Beavis
Someone actually has the full game on YouTube.
In case anyone missed the action (I am among the few), check it out here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvAACiFaKcs&feature=related
Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.
Mark of a Beast, baby. Mark of a Beast.
by NashMV3 on Feb 21, 2012 4:17 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
wow…never seen a full game on YouTube
Twitter me at: @sethpo
by Seth Pollack on Feb 21, 2012 4:43 PM MST up reply actions
In response to the poll
How about “A regular season win over the Lakers that proves to be the watershed moment in turning their organization into a mess.”
Hail to the 'Kieff!
Lol at the rumor of Lakers trying to trade for Beasley
Makes a lot of sense…his favorite past time is legal in California haha.
Twitter: @FredLegittt
“Yeah, it’s legal, but it ain’t a hundred percent legal. I mean, you can’t walk into a restaurant, roll a joint, and start puffin’ away. They want you to smoke in your home or certain designated places.”
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by East Bay Ray on Feb 22, 2012 10:21 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
You know
I am probably going to get killed for this, but I did not like that movie. Which is strange, because I can usually enjoy anything Jackson is in a movie (outside of that TERRIBLE movie where he is a cop and harasses his next door neighbor, I don’t remember the name).
But still, that is a great quote.
"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!
Imagine him getting high at home before leaving for a game.
He comes to Staple Center with bloodshot eyes and all haha.
Also, they’re trying to make a deal with the Rockets which will most likely involve Dragic to the Lakers as part of the deal. Nothing worse than Dragic playing against you well on a team that we lost the WCF to:(
Twitter: @FredLegittt
by modernage13 on Feb 22, 2012 10:34 AM MST up reply actions
Any former Suns on the Lakers is a sin
Unless you are Matt Barnes
"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!
He doesn't count
he’s a douche.
Twitter: @FredLegittt
by modernage13 on Feb 22, 2012 3:23 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
rec
Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!
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by Omaha Sun on Feb 22, 2012 5:34 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I am a very, very positive guy.
But if Dragic goes to the Lakers, I just may have to take a week or two to be deeply, deeply depressed.
"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."
Don't trade Beavis
I'll just no longer like the guy
Although it would look weird when a Laker comes to the Phoenix bench hugging everyone.
Twitter: @FredLegittt
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