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Phoenix Suns Roster Decisions: Who'll be Wearing Purple and Orange Next Season?

We all are very certain that Steve Nash and Marcin Gortat are stirring the flat, decaffeinated soda beverage that are the Phoenix Suns. Without the two, there is a very good chance this team could be 1-22 or 2-21, which could be good as far as draft positioning goes, but would kill us true fans hoping for a reason to watch this team this season.

The Suns have constructed a roster of one year deals in order to free up the Benjamins for this coming off-season. However, the Suns may not have much to spend on players other than Steve Nash. This puts the Suns in a position to make a big transaction and hopefully grab 2-3 players that can make a difference.

But I want to focus on the parts we have now. Who will be holdovers from this 2012 squad next season? That is, who will survive the trade deadline, waivers, or a sacking (as it applies to coaches). Blast off:

Star-divide

Current Suns: Who Will be Around in 2012-13?

With Certainty

  • Marcin Gortat and Steve Nash: No brainer, obvious two choices. The Suns will not deal Nash unless he somehow gets into a war with the FO and asks to leave. But Steve is a pacifist, and everything we have heard from the FO and Alvin Gentry indicate if anything, he may be extended for 2 more years. While Gortat is probably the best trade asset the Suns have, he's finally the big man they've been searching for the past 20+ years. He goes nowhere unless the return is obscenely wonderful.
  • Markieff Morris. He's having a fairly typical season for a rookie. Inconsistency, turnovers, confusion. But the fact the kid has been in the starting lineup as opposed to the D-Leagues like his brother tells us Gentry and the FO like this kid a lot. The fact that he can stay on the floor longer than Earl Clark ever did bodes well. It's also a commentary on how bad Channing Frye is playing and how undersized Hakim Warrick is. Like Gortat, you don't deal what could be a key piece of your core unless the return is unreal. And Morris hasn't been good enough to get an unreal offer, and it would be terribly unwise to toss him in as a sweetener in a smaller deal unless the return is a beast.

Probable

  • Jared Dudley. You don't find many like him in the league. He's smart, he's capable of shooting 40+% from beyond the arc, and he scraps and scraps and never gives up. Last year I would have put him in the "with certainty" category, but I get the feeling that he could be had for the right price. Just one of those guys you want to see in a Purple and Orange forever, but hell, even Dan Majerle got dealt as did Larry Nance. (Just two off the top of my head). Bottom line, it's a business.
  • Josh Childress, Hakim Warrick, Channing Frye. The Suns have saved their amnesty choice, so it is possible that Chill or Hak get waived, but let's face it, these guys are getting paid way too much and performing way too poorly for them to get dealt unless the Suns take a bath in the deal. I still think Frye can turn it on and has value, but if his shot isn't falling, who wants a big man who doesn't have an inside game or rebound? (def not New York or Portland)
  • Sebastian Telfair. I like what I've seen from him the past several games. I'd sign him up for two years. There, I said it. He's quick, tenacious, and his shot is improving. A stable coaching staff and consistent playing time could turn this kid into a viable backup PG. I mean he's not going to turn into CP3 or anything, but viable backup, perhaps.

Good as Gone

  • Robin Lopez. No surprise here. Inconsistent play, the ugly double T (prompting AG to utter the "S" word in public), no offer of extension from the org. If he wasn't in his final year, I'd say he'd be buried on the bench still from the latest outburst, but he's probably auditioning for other teams.
  • Shannon Brown. I'm reaching here a bit. The Brown experiment hasn't exactly worked for the Suns. He's averaging below career averages in nearly every category. He's been inconsistent and out of control for most of the season. Nevertheless, he's young, explosive and capable of scoring in bunches. Oh and he's on a one year deal. I could see him being a sweetener in part of a larger deal. May as well get a little something out of him while he's still here.
  • Grant Hill. I'm 89% sure Hill is playing his last season. He's nursing knee injuries and fighting off father time. Like Nash, unless he wants to go, the FO won't ship him out this season, that would be plain disrespectful to the man.What I would love to see is Hill retiring a Sun, then moving up to the FO and restoring some sense and respectability to this franchise.

Gray Areas

  • Michael Redd. The Suns cheap, reclamation project has shown some signs of life. But he's not his old self and may never be again. Unless he all of a sudden starts playing like an All-Star, there won't be interest. And IF it were to happen, it's more likely the Suns would want him around for a playoff push. If there was one.
  • Ronnie Price. He's an excellent defender, a high energy guy, a great locker room guy. Which is why he's valuable. Like consistent scorers, excellent defenders are difficult to find. He's cheap and dedicated, which is probably why the Suns would want to hang on to him. Still, he could be NutraSweet in a larger deal.
  • Alvin Gentry. Everyone has an opinion on Gentry. Is this season his fault? Is he a coach best suited for a bunch of talented veterans? Are his rotation choices poor? How much of the Suns offensive woes can be attributed to Gentry? Are he and the FO getting along? I don't think there is any guarantee Gentry finishes this season as Suns coach and there's certainly no promise for next season. It is this writer's humble opinion that Gentry won't leave money on the table. The same can be said for the FO, who hopefully learned from the Terry Porter debacle.
  • Elston Turner. The "defensive coordinator" of the Suns received plenty of credit at the outset of the season when the Suns ranked high atop the NBA in defense. But what has happened? Have the players tuned him out? Are they just not executing? How much of the Suns defensive trouble can be attributed to Turner?

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I don’t like how the offseason is starting to look from this side of the season. The big Free Agents have, for the most part, been snatched up by their respective teams in contract extensions.

by lixuec on Feb 6, 2012 12:16 PM MST reply actions  

What about Aaron Brooks?

With the new CBA I don’t think we can sign and trade him during the season, so i’m pretty sure we will sign him. I can’t see Babby being able to explain why he let a guy leave for nothing after giving Dragic + a 1st rounder for him.

by BritishSun on Feb 6, 2012 12:23 PM MST reply actions  

Sunk cost.

If the FO believes they made a Mistake with Brooks, they have to admit it and move on. If they still feel like he can help the team, they should sign him to a reasonable deal. But it has to be a basketball decision.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 6, 2012 12:25 PM MST up reply actions  

correct

Sign-and-trade deals are no longer allowed once the season starts.

Per Larry Coon

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by phxuk: Ap on Feb 6, 2012 12:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Your groupings are right on the money IMO.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 6, 2012 12:23 PM MST reply actions  

Nash, Gortat, Dudley, Morris and Warrick are returning.

Not so sure about Gentry. I don’t think he’s the coach we want to rebuild with.

I’m going to assume that we re-sign Nash for about 8 million, 1-2 years (player option). Knicks want him, but they’ll only offer the MLE.

If we can land Batum and Augustin on longterm deals for about 6 million each, that’ll be a steal. That’s 20 million total with about 14 million more to spend on another free agent like Gordon or sign a couple other guys to one year deals. It’s a shame because Dragic/Brooks and Childress were suppose to be what Batum and Augustin are.

If we can deal Redd and Lopez for a 1st round pick even if it’s late, then go for it.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Feb 6, 2012 12:23 PM MST reply actions  

Absolutely! i love Augustin!

roses are red violets are blue, Michael Redd is coming for you!

by Lino Canaan on Feb 6, 2012 12:53 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

I would throw a bone to Redd/Lopez/Price

They to me are capable of doing their work as bench players and in some occasions step up as starters, I would give them both 2 years min deals.

And probably work out a trade to get rid of Warrick and Brown to Minny for Luke Ridnour and 2nd pick.

Finally Amnesty Chilly, Sign Batum and Nick Young.

roses are red violets are blue, Michael Redd is coming for you!

by Lino Canaan on Feb 6, 2012 12:51 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Lopez is a RFA and will get offers most likely. There won’t be a min deal.

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 6, 2012 1:22 PM MST up reply actions  

And we're pretty much guaranteed to match nothing.

Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.

Mark of a Beast, baby. Mark of a Beast.

by NashMV3 on Feb 6, 2012 3:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Spot on.

Nash, Gorat and Morris. The rest as far as I am concerned can be moved. I like Dudley coming off the bench so I would not have a problem keeping him here.
I am hoping for another 1st round pick in this coming draft if the Suns can move some players. I think if Gentry gives Lopez some more minutes maybe, just maybe him value may increase to get another 1st round pick.

by Grockcubs on Feb 6, 2012 1:02 PM MST reply actions  

Speaking of who's wearing what....

are there any updates on the Suns uniform changes next year? No one has talked about it since the Paul Coro tweet.

by Majerle9 on Feb 6, 2012 1:07 PM MST reply actions  

I heard Sarver wants to make them even better than they are now

He’s thinking of making the collar an even bigger Y and replacing the purple with a dark pink since no one wears pink and we’d be the first team do it in the history of the NBA. This is a good move for his image. Also, there will be new rules to the dress code. No more headbands and players have to wear socks up to their knees.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Feb 6, 2012 1:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Do you think Nash may have a problem with them firing Gentry?

Also, wasn’t Bill Cartwright and Dan majerle supposed to focus on the defensive side of the ball? Why do we need Turner?

by hubertdavisfor3 on Feb 6, 2012 1:36 PM MST reply actions  

Hubert

I do think gentry leaving could upset Nash. Its not to say its the only coach he’d ever play for, but I could weigh heavily in a decision to can Gentry and or whether Nash is interested in resigning.

I think Cartwright and Majerle weren’t good enough, hence Turner?

Or perhaps the FO thought since Turner was a finalist for the HC job a few years back he could inevitably take Gentry’s spot.

Never know what those guys in suits are plotting.

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by Wil Cantrell on Feb 6, 2012 2:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Was this piece designed to depress me?

No longer trying to light Vince Carter on fire.

by Scott Howard on Feb 6, 2012 1:47 PM MST reply actions  

That is the only reason this blog is up in the internet.

roses are red violets are blue, Michael Redd is coming for you!

by Lino Canaan on Feb 6, 2012 1:51 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

No

It’s suppose to distract you from this current season.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Feb 6, 2012 1:53 PM MST up reply actions  

everything i write is dedicated to scott howard, why should this be any different.

Must suck to be both a Cardinal and Suns fan for you right now.

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by Wil Cantrell on Feb 6, 2012 2:08 PM MST up reply actions  

I appreciate that you think of me Wil.

No longer trying to light Vince Carter on fire.

by Scott Howard on Feb 6, 2012 2:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Whoa

Even Browns fans are taking shots at the Cardinals now?

BAMF goes HAM.

by brian13 on Feb 6, 2012 2:12 PM MST up reply actions  

At least the Cardinals are moving in the right direction

They just need better QB play and they could be a playoff team IMO.

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Feb 6, 2012 3:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Brooks is gone until his contract in China is up. When he returns the Suns have to make a deal with him, he’s a RFA.

Unless he’s upped his game considerably (and how would we know considering his competition now?), I don’t think he’s part of the future Suns.

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by Wil Cantrell on Feb 6, 2012 2:10 PM MST up reply actions  

if you saw and listened to Grant after games, perhaps you’d have a different impression…But you never know.

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by Wil Cantrell on Feb 6, 2012 2:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Steve Nash coming back "a certainty"?

I’m one of the biggest "keep Nash" types around here and even I don’t go that far. More like probably, I would think. Although, if the Suns do re-sign him this off-season, will the silly "free Steve Nash"/"rosterbate Steve Nash" chatter start on the day he signs the contract? Or the day after?

And Telfair has shown me nothing to indicate he can be an effective player. Bad shooter, bad playmaker, occasionally shows hustle on defense, I guess. You could find another one like him in the D-League.

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by East Bay Ray on Feb 6, 2012 2:59 PM MST reply actions   3 recs

Unless we land Deron Williams through some form of divine intervention, I suppose you can cry "certainty".

Steve Nash is probably the best free agent PG available after Deron Williams. He may be old, but he’s still very good as we all can see. He’s already reiterated that he’s not against staying. It’s not a stretch to say he’s almost certain to be here next season.

As for all the “free Steve Nash” talk, we both know that will never end.

And Wil, I agree with all your player categorizing stuff.

Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.

Mark of a Beast, baby. Mark of a Beast.

by NashMV3 on Feb 6, 2012 3:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Steve Nash is probably the best free agent PG available after Deron Williams period.

I don't know what to put in my sig.

by shawndy on Feb 7, 2012 4:11 AM MST up reply actions  

Sign me up on your view of Telfair

I would not care if he were gone tomorrow to be quite honest haha. Him and Price are a wash to me.

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Feb 6, 2012 3:47 PM MST up reply actions  

And then Telfair goes out and plays his best game so far

Obviously inspired by your faith in him, Wilfredo.

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by East Bay Ray on Feb 6, 2012 7:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Telfair

is interesting. He probably doesn’t carry enough to warrant a significant trade, but his style of play seems to help this ballclub. My guess is he’ll remain into next season at least.

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by NASCARbernet on Feb 6, 2012 3:06 PM MST reply actions  

Josh Childress, Hakim Warrick, Channing Frye. The Suns have saved their amnesty choice, so it is possible that Chill or Hak get waived, but let’s face it, these guys are getting paid way too much and performing way too poorly for them to get dealt unless the Suns take a bath in the deal. I still think Frye can turn it on and has value, but if his shot isn’t falling, who wants a big man who doesn’t have an inside game or rebound? (def not New York or Portland)

Childress. At least, that’s who I would choose. Warrick only has 2 years left with a team option. I’m not sure what the problem with Frye is. Has he regressed? Has he gotten too comfortable (Doris Meow)? Or is he just having a bad season? I’m going with the latter for now. AK-47 had a bad season in 06-07, but got it together again a year later. Bad seasons just happen sometimes. There is still hope for Channing and he’s a much better fit here than Chill.

I said this in another post, but the contract we gave Childress is the contract a guy like Batum deserves.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Feb 6, 2012 3:15 PM MST reply actions  

I kind of agree with you here.

Warrick may be the most deserving in terms of player we want to ditch the most, but he has the most team-friendly contract of the 3. Cutting Frye after one year would be pretty quick judgment too, unless there are things going on behin the scenes that suggest it won’t get better, which I don;t think is the case.

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 6, 2012 8:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Ugh, not this Nash thing again!

He’s as good as gone people, it’s time to face it!

by forget on Feb 6, 2012 3:37 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

It is going to keep happening

It sounds like the organization would prefer to keep him around til he retires.

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Feb 6, 2012 3:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Nash will be back next year

Unless we get Deron Williams, he is the only other PG on the market i think. I’d like to keep Brooks and Price to back up Nash. Love to see Redd as a 6th man type of roll with a full year under his belt.

I’d ship Lopez out of here even for a couple of 2nd rd picks. The Bocats and Warriors could use his size. I love Dudley but i wouldn’t mind seeing what we could get get back for him. I’d keep Frye as a back up to Gortat. Morris is the best rookie we have had in a while so he stays. Let Brown and Telfair walk at seasons end.

Amnesty Childress, i do like him he just doesn’t fit and we’ll have to live with Warrick for another year or two.

Gentry is a good coach, not many could do any better with what we have at the moment. Babby, Blanks and Co need more time to be judged. Sarver ummm well i think we all know about that one.

by Sunderstruck on Feb 6, 2012 10:25 PM MST reply actions  

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