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Steve Nash Hits Game Winner, Suns Victorious 107-105

Happy Birthday, Steve Nash, you hit the game winner tonight on the road against the Milwaukee Bucks.

How fitting.

The Phoenix Suns were 35-5 against the Milwaukee Bucks since the '91-'92 season entering tonight's game. It looked as though they were in for their 36th W after two quarters of play when something typical happened. After scoring 67 points in the first half, the Suns suddenly lost momentum, putting up 40 in the final two quarters while giving up 55 to the Bucks.

What should have been an easy road win turned out to be a nailbiter for the Phoenix Suns. But none of that matters when it's Steve Nash's birthday.

Star-divide

In the first half the Suns were looking a bit like the 7SOL Suns. They ran, they made shots, they scored 67 points on 62% shooting. Michael Redd scored 12 while Nash went for 13 and 5. The Suns went 5-9 from beyond the arc and befuddled the Bucks for 24 minutes. Even the Suns' defense stepped up, limiting the Bucks to 20 second quarter points.

But in the 3rd quarter, the Suns gave up runs of 12-0, 8-0, and 6-0. The Suns' 17 point lead dwindled to 7 at the end of the third. In the fourth, the Bucks continued on a 17-2 run. The Suns helped the Bucks out by missing 9 of 10 field goal attempts in the first four minutes of the final stanza. Brandon Jennings took his second shot of the game, a 3, and promptly nailed it to give the Bucks a 3 point lead.

Of course it was Nashty to the rescue for the Phoenix Suns. After an incredible save off a Channing Frye block, Nash hit a running 3 to give the Suns a 2 point lead. After 2 Bucks free throws, the game was tied with 5 ticks left on the clock.

Enter the Nashty who drove to to the right side of the hoop for a running 6 footer. GAME OVER. A fitting climax to what must have been one of the happiest 38th birthdays in recent history. Thank you, Steve Nash

Worth Noting

  • Josh Childress: 12 rebounds, 3 assists in 16 minutes. Just watch the guy. He's everywhere, a pest with a nose for the ball. We may just get our money's worth out of this guy. Hopefully
  • Jared Dudley: 7-9 from the field, 19 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists
  • Marcin Gortat 21 and 9
  • Channing Frye: 14 points, 5 rebounds on 6-12 shooting
  • Grant Hill: 13 points, 4 rebounds, 5 assists
  • Michael Redd: 14 points, 4 rebounds on 7-14 shooting in 20 minutes of play.
  • Phoenix Suns: 48 points in the paint against 22 Buck points in the paint

Thoughts, Opinions, Observations

It's never nice to lose a 19 point lead and have to eke out a W in the final seconds. But any win on the road is a good win. The Bucks were 7-3 on their home court, and even if Scott Skiles refused to let Brandon Jennings take a shot (to prove some insane point or what have you), a W in the W column is sweet especially on the second night of back to backs.

The good news for the Suns is Josh Childress is contributing in that Lou Amundson kind of way. Getting his mitts on rebounds, playing D, being the dirtworker the second unit needs. But wait, there's more good news! Channing Frye's shot is starting to fall. And as many of you posted yesterday, when Frye hits shots, the Suns transform into a much better team. OH WAIT, there's even more good news! Michael Freakin' Redd is starting to gain confidence and hit shots. He's 16-35 from the field in the last three games which is an incredible improvement. Even Robin Lopez is contributing without throwing any hissy fits.

Heck, if this continues, we might all start feeling a tad optimistic.

Enjoy, Suns fans, the Suns have won 3 in a row and return home with a score to settle against the Houston Rockets.

Quotable:

Steve Nash

"It was a pretty formidable win under pretty formidable circumstances."

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Quarter by Quarter Notes

1st

Drew Gooden scoring at will

Gortat feeling it

Bucks start off 7-12

Nash aggressive on offensive end

Every Sun starter has scored

Michael Redd enters to applause. No SO. Just applause

Suns 11-2 run in 2 minute span

"They're cookin'" says Eddie Johnson, one of my personal idols.

Suns playing confident, with excellent pace

Redd cant play defense. no big surprise. Delfino makes him look like a statue

Morris and Chill enter. Flagrant on Gooden for being a dick. "meltdown effect," says EJ. Totally

Redd could be a hero tonight, feeling comfy with the floor and rims in MIL.

Really thought Nash would go bald. I wish I had his hair. Not gonna lie.

Illysova drops 35 footer to end quarter. Suns 34-30, shooting 64% from field.

2nd

Lopez and Bassy two man game pays off with Lopez hook

Redd clearly finding his stroke with smooth 2

Chill picking up all the loose balls. 5 boards in 5 minutes

More Redd with a 10 footer off the boards

More Redd with a 15 footer, Suns bench going nuts. Leading scoreers w 10

Bucks not making shots and not getting second chances.

More Redd, more Redd, MORE REDD! SUNS UP BY 12

Leander calls Stephen Jackson "salty," which is a really dumb way to say the guy is pissed. Anyway, the guy is acting like a dick which is no surprise.

Redd shooting at will bricks a 3. Slow it down Miachael.

Bucks look angry. Here comes the run.

Bucks on 10-2 run (see I called it!)

Starters back in.

Frye hits 3.

Leander points out Nash shares birthday with Ashton Kutcher. uh, who cares?

Nash hits, 6-7. 15-19 in two games thus far.

Gortat bucket, Suns have scored 60 in first half. A good sign

Bucks looking confused on D

I hate commercials

Frye's shot is very very close to being normal. This is good for the Suns

Dudley 2 brings Suns lead to 17

Frye insane tip in from about 10 ft away off Hill miss

Can Suns hit 70? 65 in the second with 28 ticks left

Suns 67-50 at half, shooting 62% from the field.

3rd

Gortat gathers Dudz miss for dunk, suns up by 19

More Gortat, lefty hook Suns by 21

8-0 run by Bucks

Suns respond with 6-0 run on Hill layup off Mil TO.

Bucks on 6-0 run, 86-73 Suns

Chill all over the boards. 10 mts, 10 boards

Bucks 12-0 run 88-81 Suns

Lots of sighs, here we go again.

31-21 Bucks in 3rd

4th

Momentum shift, 17-2 run by Bucks going back to 3rd quarter

Dunleavy with 2nd 3, Suns up 90-89

Lopez 20 foot brick? Why?

Jackson 3, 92-90 Bucks 7+ mts left

Bucks can't miss now

Suns 1/10 from field in first 4 mts of 4th

J Chill is everywhere on the bright side

Anyone want an 11 year old cat?

Dudz 3 94-93 Mil

Suns cant hit a shot

Frye in at crunch time hits long 2.

Dudz 3, Suns up 98-96 with 4 mts left

Jennings second shot of the game a 3, 101-98 Bucks

Frye block Nash incredible save, Nash hits 3, 103-101 with 2 mt left

I hate my job

Gortat 2 Suns 105-103 1.21 left

Mil with 4 tries at a basket hit two FT's 105 all, 44.7 left

Hill miss, Suns off rebound. TO Suns 20.2 left

Nash hits driving layup 107-105 with 5 ticks left. HAPPY FREAKIN B-DAY!

Bucks cant get a shot off. GAME OVER MAN! SUNS WIN

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WOW, STREAKING SUN

We want playoffs not playnopes. Phoenix Suns for life.

by Christian_33 on Feb 7, 2012 9:18 PM MST reply actions  

polls make me nervous.

Crashing the [message] boards from the swamps of Louisiana, and blogging Phoenix Suns!

by PHXgp on Feb 7, 2012 9:20 PM MST reply actions  

Thats what she said

Member of the "Let’s Make FanShots Relevant!" Club

by AcucracK on Feb 7, 2012 9:46 PM MST up reply actions  

You have a stripper pole in the middle of your living room, don't you?

Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.

Mark of a Beast, baby. Mark of a Beast.

by NashMV3 on Feb 7, 2012 10:06 PM MST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frd53vbCHLg

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by AcucracK on Feb 7, 2012 10:16 PM MST up reply actions  

I read this and think…cross the line a bit?

sorry to those who might find this offensive.

by 2NASHTY on Feb 7, 2012 10:18 PM MST up reply actions  

it was ok. FB is crossing the line and Zuckerberg is doing nothing

"Steve Nash is more valuable for the Suns than Kobe for the Lakers" - Jared Dudley

by Juac on Feb 7, 2012 10:18 PM MST up reply actions  

The time"line"???

Now that was horrible.

Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.

Mark of a Beast, baby. Mark of a Beast.

by NashMV3 on Feb 7, 2012 10:19 PM MST up reply actions  

No! there's something worst

ppl is putting some pics in their walls and they’re doing nothing

tonite someone in my timeline put a picture of someone who was killed and has no eyes, no sex parts and no teeth…

bad for everyone

"Steve Nash is more valuable for the Suns than Kobe for the Lakers" - Jared Dudley

by Juac on Feb 7, 2012 10:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Apparently the timeline lets people see all the people you've hooked up with in the past decade.

Engaging stalker mode.

Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.

Mark of a Beast, baby. Mark of a Beast.

by NashMV3 on Feb 7, 2012 10:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Exactly what was needed.

sixseasonsandamovie
♬P-p-pocket full of Hawthrones.♪

by noonoo on Feb 7, 2012 10:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Are they going to make everyone get that thing?

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 7, 2012 10:29 PM MST up reply actions  

It's supposedly going to be the default layout pretty soon.

It’s only a matter of time.

Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.

Mark of a Beast, baby. Mark of a Beast.

by NashMV3 on Feb 7, 2012 10:29 PM MST up reply actions  

Unfortunately.

Hateeee.

sixseasonsandamovie
♬P-p-pocket full of Hawthrones.♪

by noonoo on Feb 7, 2012 10:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Terminator is coming faster

"Steve Nash is more valuable for the Suns than Kobe for the Lakers" - Jared Dudley

by Juac on Feb 7, 2012 10:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Aaaahhh-nold is already here.

Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.

Mark of a Beast, baby. Mark of a Beast.

by NashMV3 on Feb 7, 2012 10:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Me too.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 7, 2012 10:32 PM MST up reply actions  

That will be the day I get a Twitter account and use Facebook for little more than games.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 7, 2012 10:32 PM MST up reply actions  

never been one to be PC

while funny… I’d like to take it back, too lude, too crude. (it’s a thin line)

by 2NASHTY on Feb 7, 2012 10:24 PM MST up reply actions  

where is everyone??

Nice recap. I like that you talked about that incredible save Nash had. That may have been the ball game to a degree. He looked great tonight. He won the game, for crying out loud. And when they put up the graphic of the other great PG’s at 38 (Mark Jackson averaged 2.3 pts and 2.5 assists at Nash’s age. What a loser.), and then when the real greats retired (Isiah at 32, Magic at 34 (I think)), and here we have Nash averaging 15 & 10 at 56% shooting!!! What an awesome dude.

The first half was some fun stuff to watch. The 2nd was painful, though. Glad they pulled it out. I guess they ran out of gas. But it wasn’t pretty.

Going back to the good lookin’ first half, though- Redd’s shot was so much fun to watch. Man, I hope the guy can be consistent wtih that shot. It was amazing. Such a pretty, smooth, quick release. If he really comes back all the way, we will have gotten a steal.

And, I have to retract all the bad things I’ve said about Chilly this year. I wanted him to play last year, but at the beginning of this year he was horrible. But he’s making me believe he can play again. Free Chilly.

Last tihng: Gortat, Hill, and Dudz are studs. That is all.

Grant Hill for prez.

by sun-arc on Feb 7, 2012 9:20 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Law of Averages

It happens every single game … when a team is shooting over 60% in the first half, they will always come back to the mean and when a team is shooting 40% in the first half they will always come back up to the mean. You are what you are and it’s very rare to have a 50% shooting team shoot 60+% for a game.

Only good thing is that the Suns violated Lawlers Law (first team to 100 wins). Bucks hit 100 first , Suns still win.

by LA Eric on Feb 7, 2012 9:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Good think Bradfather wasn't here.

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 7, 2012 10:16 PM MST up reply actions  

"Thing", Omaha.

Not “think”.

Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.

Mark of a Beast, baby. Mark of a Beast.

by NashMV3 on Feb 7, 2012 10:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Thannk you Eric.

And I hate you and your cursed punctuation.

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 7, 2012 10:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Erase one of those ns. I'm tired.

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 7, 2012 10:20 PM MST up reply actions  

I must ask.

Why put the comma inside the quotation when it’s not part of the quote?

Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.

Mark of a Beast, baby. Mark of a Beast.

by NashMV3 on Feb 7, 2012 10:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Good question.

I just do what the style book tells me.

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 7, 2012 10:28 PM MST up reply actions  

And I go with what I think doesn't not make sense.

Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.

Mark of a Beast, baby. Mark of a Beast.

by NashMV3 on Feb 7, 2012 10:29 PM MST up reply actions  

embrace the 2N

MAKE UP YOUR OWN RULES…

by 2NASHTY on Feb 7, 2012 10:31 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

So what you're trying to say is...

you need a hug real bad.

Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.

Mark of a Beast, baby. Mark of a Beast.

by NashMV3 on Feb 7, 2012 10:33 PM MST up reply actions  

maybe just a little one,

by 2NASHTY on Feb 7, 2012 10:37 PM MST up reply actions  

That wouldn't be good for a copy-editor of a newspaper...

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 7, 2012 10:33 PM MST up reply actions  

or maybe...

That would Be Bitch’n for a copy-editor of a newspaper..?

by 2NASHTY on Feb 7, 2012 10:37 PM MST up reply actions  

No, my editors would hate me.

They wouldn’t let me back into the room after I go get a drink.

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 7, 2012 10:38 PM MST up reply actions  

No, they just don't want to be there until 4 in the morning.

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 7, 2012 10:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Let's be honest.

You’ll be there all night.

Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.

Mark of a Beast, baby. Mark of a Beast.

by NashMV3 on Feb 7, 2012 10:41 PM MST up reply actions  

False.

I’m leaving now. Night all.

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 7, 2012 10:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Quitter.

Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.

Mark of a Beast, baby. Mark of a Beast.

by NashMV3 on Feb 7, 2012 10:43 PM MST up reply actions  

So...

I just popped open a bag of Circus Animal cookies. They are quite tasty.

Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.

Mark of a Beast, baby. Mark of a Beast.

by NashMV3 on Feb 7, 2012 10:45 PM MST up reply actions  

But I actually like them.

Well, at least some of them.

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 7, 2012 10:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh Wow

Great game to listen to on Sirius. Even though I pay for the friggin package and can only get the away team announcing crew. That’s a rant for another day. The Buck announcers were still pretty complimentary about Steve. Great win. One thing though … is it just me or does Redd have one of the oddest looking shots int he league. Sort of slings it from behind his head Jack Sikma style. Every time he winds up to shoot it I tilt my head like the dog does when I fart. Very odd.

Great win though.

by LA Eric on Feb 7, 2012 9:22 PM MST reply actions  

His shot looks really odd

I have always thought that so you are not alone haha

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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by Airwave on Feb 7, 2012 9:54 PM MST up reply actions  

when he's hitting it's slick as hell

unlike marion who shot is not only ugly but he has to be WIDE OPEN, or the defender will just swat it away.

by 2NASHTY on Feb 8, 2012 10:46 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, I remember getting blocked a lot when I tried to take those corner 3s with him on the NBA video games.

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 8, 2012 11:54 AM MST up reply actions  

"But wait, there's more good news!"

Did anyone else read that in Bill Mays’ voice?

Joe Saunders: "They Giants played a really good game, so hats off to us"

by Skii on Feb 7, 2012 9:22 PM MST reply actions  

Great win

Nash was the hero on his birthday. Redd has been knocking down shots. Maybe he was a good signing? Still too early to tell. Dudz and Frye knocking down their shots, that’s what we need. Gortat continues to shine.

Chill played well, however he’s still not worth his contract. I expected 8-12 PPG, 5-6 rpg, hustle and elite defense when we signed him. I hope he continues to perform well this season and that Gentry keeps playing him if he does, but we still need to amnesty him this summer and use that money for a more productive SF like Batum.

This was a good win despite the near choke. What surprised me is that we were even good enough to get a 19 point lead. I wouldn’t have thought that was possible a couple weeks ago. We’ve got 3 in a row. I say we keep streaking.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Feb 7, 2012 9:28 PM MST reply actions  

So many Suns players played amazing tonight

but I’m really impressed with chilly. not going to lie i have always been a part of the trade Chilly campaign but he has been impressive! 12 boards in 16 min?! damn. and ever since he cracked rotation the second unit is looking a lot nicer. now i am a proud member of the trade Brown campaign.

by miketheboss on Feb 7, 2012 9:33 PM MST reply actions  

So many Chilly haters

Switching to his bandwagon. Muahahaha he has been freed!

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Feb 7, 2012 9:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Not sure if Wil, TP, Omaha, and I are so willing to let you onboard haha.

Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.

Mark of a Beast, baby. Mark of a Beast.

by NashMV3 on Feb 7, 2012 10:06 PM MST up reply actions  

He has to pay for the gas for a while.

#practicalhazing

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 7, 2012 10:13 PM MST up reply actions  

haha

i’ll pay. but seriously, Hakim and brown < Draft picks. of course knowing our luck as soon as we trade brown Redd gets injured

by miketheboss on Feb 7, 2012 10:27 PM MST up reply actions  

That's fine

I can be on my own because I always wanted him to play haha

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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by Airwave on Feb 7, 2012 10:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Really wanted to watch this game

Unfortunately, I had Anatomy class. I was doing the play by play though and started to get sweaty when we lost our lead. Glad Steve could bail us out. He kept his words

What happened to Morris by the way? Just a bad game?

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by modernage13 on Feb 7, 2012 9:34 PM MST reply actions  

he had a couple of nice moments

but really wasn’t playing along with the game much.

Grant Hill for prez.

by sun-arc on Feb 7, 2012 9:37 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

When the opposing team doesn't even get a final shot off, it just makes the win that much more satisfactory.

Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.

Mark of a Beast, baby. Mark of a Beast.

by NashMV3 on Feb 7, 2012 9:34 PM MST reply actions  

Yeah

Mostly because we usually suck at those situations. It was nice to see the role reversed.

"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
Cardinals, Suns, D-backs for life!

by Airwave on Feb 7, 2012 9:55 PM MST up reply actions  

if they don't gel even more, there's rough times ahead...

The rest of Feb isn’t bad, but March and April are brutal. They’d have to become one of the very best teams in the league even to make it to the playoffs, given where they are now.

Is it what people were worrying about? Nash will make us good enough to get a bad pick without making the playoffs? Or will the team end up being really damn good, overachieving expectations with chemistry and unbelievable shooting by a by-gone star named Redd and two really old guys in Nash and Hill, along with a resurgent Chilly and brash up-and-coming rookie named Morris? We’ll have to see…………

Grant Hill for prez.

by sun-arc on Feb 7, 2012 9:36 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Here is, if not an unbiased, at least a very balanced thread I found comparing Steve Nash and John Stockton in their primes.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=160438&page=7

Besides the obvious Nash-hating Laker fan or two, this thread had a surprisingly objective view from fans of all NBA teams. I’d say it’s split 50-50 whether NBA fans would take Nash or Stockton in their respective primes.

"I'm a nobody." - Steve Nash in 1997

by PHXSunsRunNGun on Feb 7, 2012 9:40 PM MST reply actions  

That greymatter kid seems to know what he's talking about.
Purely from an offensive perspective, Nash is clearly better. They’re about equal as distributors, but Nash is just an all-around better shooter.

PG defense has very little impact on the defensive side of the ball. It’s why garbage like Fisher and Jameer Nelson can be starters and still play on teams which have given up 42-43% shooting over the past few years.

Though Stockton was clearly a better overall player, it’s not necessarily easy to say you could more easily build a team around him. For one thing, all but one of his seasons he had Mailman; so there’s no actual sample to compare. Nash has had to deal with different pieces coming in and out and up until last year was still able to play at an elite level, proving that he can take any cast and elevate them on the offensive side of the ball (just like CP3).

I totally agree with this.

Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.

Mark of a Beast, baby. Mark of a Beast.

by NashMV3 on Feb 7, 2012 9:44 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah greymatter had some great points.

And LOL at the guy who said Stockton was better solely because he was #1 in assists and steals. Stock also played about 4-5 more seasons and STARTED 8 more seasons than Nash did.

"I'm a nobody." - Steve Nash in 1997

by PHXSunsRunNGun on Feb 7, 2012 9:50 PM MST up reply actions  

And don't forget...

In his prime, Steve Nash’s championship-contending teams suffered severe roster turnover. From 2005-2010, Steve remained the only constant. Many players came and went and it’s surprising to see him still carry this team when there was so much turnover in the roster. Not to mention the injuries that Amare suffered and yet Nash still managed to persevere through that.

Stockton had Malone since the beginning. Even though bits and pieces of their roster changed, they remained at the core of their team for a good 17-18 seasons (I don’t remember exactly). John managed to have some continuity while Steve has kept his teams relevant with practically a different roster every season since he’s returned to the Suns.

I’m not taking anything away from John Stockton but what Steve Nash has done in Phoenix can’t be taken lightly.

Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.

Mark of a Beast, baby. Mark of a Beast.

by NashMV3 on Feb 7, 2012 10:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Not to bring the past up

But Amare should have taken the contract we offered him and stayed with Nash… They could have had that same kind of conjoined career that Malone and Stockton had.

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by AcucracK on Feb 7, 2012 10:15 PM MST up reply actions  

You hit the nail on the head.

Nash has proven he can succeed, at least individually, with or without stars on his team, and with or without any sort of chemistry. Stock never had to face that problem.

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by PHXSunsRunNGun on Feb 7, 2012 10:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Plus...

Steve looked like Ben Affleck when he was a rookie.

Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.

Mark of a Beast, baby. Mark of a Beast.

by NashMV3 on Feb 7, 2012 10:37 PM MST up reply actions  

uh no, I don’t agree with this

Though Stockton was clearly a better overall player

Nash is a better shooter, better passer, able to make more players look good in his career, AND played better longer.

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by Alex Laugan on Feb 8, 2012 6:57 AM MST up reply actions   2 recs

It's what happens when I skim over things...

Duly noted.

Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.

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by NashMV3 on Feb 8, 2012 12:29 PM MST up reply actions  

Ny that I think he was just weighing defense fairly heavily.

A lot of people do that.

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 8, 2012 1:19 PM MST up reply actions  

*By that

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 8, 2012 1:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Josh Freakin Childress

Nice to see him getting a chance. Just what this slow, unathletic squad needed! What I like most about this string of wins is that we are putting points on the board outside of Nash and Gortat receiving a pass from Nash. The second unit has really been the difference maker these past few games. Lopez has been assertive and really helps Telfair not go crazy with all that dancing on the perimeter. In fact, I wish Gortat was showing the moves Robin is currently displaying right now. I would feel all-in-all “ok” about things if we were getting more easy points in transition and Gortat was scoring indepently of Nash.

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by Snowbird on Feb 7, 2012 9:42 PM MST reply actions  

Great win!

This squad must keep this momentum. Its the only way we will have the confidence when our schedule hardens. Chilly with moar minutes will be great. Also what happens when aaron brooks returns? Does ye become the backup pg. and do we get rid of price or telly?

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by phxpurple on Feb 7, 2012 9:47 PM MST via Android app reply actions  

It depends what kind of offers Brooks gets.

He’s a RFA.

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 7, 2012 10:26 PM MST up reply actions  

I hated to see the lead dissipate like that

But i can’t complain with a win via Steve Nash clutchness on his birthday.

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by Airwave on Feb 7, 2012 9:57 PM MST reply actions  

yup

this W makes me more giddy then I should be but what evs, 3 in a row 2 on the road 1 BtB (on the road).

by 2NASHTY on Feb 7, 2012 10:03 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

and

is it just me, or did some guy look’n like Micheal Redd show up.

by 2NASHTY on Feb 7, 2012 10:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Last 3 games the Suns look like a real NBA team.

So glad the offense is getting back to normal. They play good defense for most of the games, but had nothing to show

because the offense sucked. That lead weight feeling in the pit of my stomach has been absent recently, and I don’t

miss it. Go Suns!

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by thedoovage on Feb 7, 2012 10:03 PM MST reply actions  

I find NBA.com's headline for Boston's victory pretty funny.

“Celtics win as Pierce passes Bird”…

I don’t even know where to begin with this one.

Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.

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by NashMV3 on Feb 7, 2012 10:13 PM MST reply actions  

I just bought tickets for the Suns game in Minnesota on April 9. Lower bowl (corner, but only $7 apiece). It truly is a happy Nash day (at least as far as all things Suns go).

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 7, 2012 10:20 PM MST reply actions  

We need a new backup PG

Copy-paste for the Nash era, but true. Telfair’s only offensive skill is the ability to get himself a semi-open 20 footer. That isn’t a skill that deserves an NBA gig. Sadly, Price is awesome but an even worse PG.

Redd looks good, but Telfair doesn’t get him the ball, pretty much ever.

We should try out a few D League guys. Ben Uzoh and Blake Ahearn have skills, and Uzoh is a nice complementary piece with solid D and nice size. It can’t hurt to try them, and they are cheap options.

by MMotherwell on Feb 7, 2012 10:23 PM MST reply actions  

I don't see how Price

Is worse than Telfair. I really don’t.

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by Airwave on Feb 7, 2012 10:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Price has been backing up

DWILL for years, he is more than capable of a back up job for just one year… he is not a future pg but he is a nice back up and better than bassy who brings D and drives to the bucket

by SunsASJD134 on Feb 7, 2012 10:32 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm high as a hippie on price!

although that may just be the drugs talking.

by 2NASHTY on Feb 7, 2012 10:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Imagine Price and JChill

Be pandemonium on D and loose balls.

by MMotherwell on Feb 7, 2012 11:11 PM MST up reply actions  

He can't shoot.

PG is asked to shoot of the PnR in our system – he can’t make open 20 footers or 3’s.
Simple as that.

Feed the cutter!!!

by Piotr Szczesniak on Feb 8, 2012 8:35 AM MST up reply actions  

True

But to be honest I don’t think Bassy is doing any better a job. He takes way too long to initiate the offense usually. I don’t see Telfair hitting many more shots.

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by Airwave on Feb 8, 2012 1:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Telfair's our little enforcer.

I like his toughness. He may dribble the ball more than he should, but he’s had some nice moments. I’m one of the few (maybe the only) people who like him.

Just because Steve Nash has that "dirty hipster" look doesn't mean he's in need of a shower. Steve Nash bathes in the tears of his victims on a nightly basis.

Mark of a Beast, baby. Mark of a Beast.

by NashMV3 on Feb 7, 2012 11:13 PM MST up reply actions  

I wish we could trade for eric bledsoe

Billups is out for LAC so they may need a SG. Shannon brown on that team would be a the final peice to ultimate lob city.
Brown for bledsoe ?
Or do we wait and see for brooks.

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by phxpurple on Feb 8, 2012 2:22 AM MST via Android app up reply actions  

Damnit work and damnit class

Missed yet another game. Reading this, it looks as if it was typical Phoenix Suns of the old times? Big lead, then blowing it, but finding a way to grind it out in the final moments.

A second night of a back to back, I find this win very impressive, especially considering the Bucks were 7-3 at home prior to tonight.

by iceythril on Feb 7, 2012 11:22 PM MST reply actions  

Nash's b-day is the two yr birthday of my SBNation account

I never realized until today.

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by Suns R Us on Feb 7, 2012 11:27 PM MST reply actions  

you R wiser then you knew.

by 2NASHTY on Feb 7, 2012 11:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Wow he was just turning 36 then

they grow up so fast D:

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by Suns R Us on Feb 7, 2012 11:44 PM MST up reply actions  

At this point

I wonder how much more awesome he’ll be at 40

by 2NASHTY on Feb 7, 2012 11:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Great to see Steve Nash playing at that level after alllllll these years.

He’s like a fine old wine- just gets better as he ages. He’s the original Energizer Bunny.

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by lygafe on Feb 8, 2012 1:52 AM MST reply actions  

Thundercats?

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by phxpurple on Feb 8, 2012 2:24 AM MST via Android app up reply actions  

Hoooo!!!!

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 8, 2012 11:56 AM MST up reply actions  

i missed the game

because i am sick…

is the winning shot on youtube? thanks~

by sonicking on Feb 8, 2012 4:13 AM MST reply actions  

not as of last night. i looked for it.

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by Wil Cantrell on Feb 8, 2012 6:58 AM MST up reply actions  

So does SBN.

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 8, 2012 11:56 AM MST up reply actions  

What a way to celebrate his birthday

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by JoeCB1991 on Feb 8, 2012 12:35 PM MST reply actions  

"After 2 Bucks free throws, the game was tied with 5 ticks left on the clock. Enter the Nashty who drove to to the right side of the hoop for a running 6 footer. GAME OVER."

That’s not how the game ended in case anybody was wondering. Nash hit the game winner over Gooden with 5 seconds left and the Suns kept the Bucks from getting off a shot after a timeout.

You could say that 5 seconds of defense was the Suns’ birthday present to Nash.

by oLLiE Boombayay on Feb 8, 2012 1:13 PM MST reply actions  

I agree.

That defensive stand was awesome.

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 8, 2012 1:20 PM MST up reply actions  

He did the Monster Nash ..

.. on his birthday yet! A v. pleasant surprise to see a scrappy decent Suns team suddenly show up out of the swampy nowhere. Winning begets winning. We’re finally showing some toughness and resilience – and with the condensed schedule the depth of our bench is becoming more of an asset.
Happy happy joy joy!

by Van2010 on Feb 8, 2012 1:13 PM MST reply actions  

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