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Analysing upgrade at the PF spot; part 2 – advanced data & stats

Part 1 available here – http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2014/6/10/5797668/analysing-possible-upgrades-at-the-pf-spot-with-advanced-stats-part-1 .

Josh Smith's data is from the 2012/2013 season (Atlanta, PF spot) when denoted with a ** sign, because in 13/14 he played lots of SF in a dysfunctional Detroit front-court and wouldn't have representative data.

Ibaka is included for comparison purposes

Basic data/stats

Per ESPN.com

Age (Birthday)

Height

MPG

PPG

RPG

BPG

Kevin Love

25 (Sep)

6' 10"

36.3

26.1

12.5

0.5

Josh Smith*

28 (Dec)

6' 9"

35.3

17.5

8.4

1.8

M. Morris

24 (Sep)

6' 10"

26.6

13.8

6.0

0.6

Channing Frye

31 (May)

6' 11"

28.2

11.1

5.1

0.8

Taj Gibson

28 (Jun)

6' 9"

28.7

13.0

6.8

1.4

Thad Young

25 (Jun)

6' 8"

34.4

17.9

6.0

0.5

David Lee

31 (Apr)

6' 9"

33.2

18.2

9.3

0.4

T. Thompson

23 (Mar)

6' 9"

31.6

11.7

9.2

0.4

Serge Ibaka

24 (Sep)

6' 10"

32.9

15.1

8.8

2.7

Personal profiles

Tristan Thompson - http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thomptr01.html

Josh Smith - http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/smithjo03.html

Channing Frye - http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/fryech01.html

Kevin Love - http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html

Taj Gibson - http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gibsota01.html

David Lee - http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/leeda02.html

Markieff Morris - http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/leeda02.html

Thad Young - http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/y/youngth01.html

Serge Ibaka - http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/ibakase01.html

Shot charts

Kevin Love - http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.html?PlayerID=201567

Taj Gibson - http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.html?PlayerID=201959

David Lee - http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.html?PlayerID=101135

Serge Ibaka - http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.html?PlayerID=201586

Thad Young - http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.html?PlayerID=201152

Josh Smith** - http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.html?PlayerID=2746&Season=2012-13

Tristan Thompson - http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.html?PlayerID=202684

Channing Frye - http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.html?PlayerID=101112

Markieff Morris - http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.html?PlayerID=202693

Defensive impact

Per http://stats.nba.com/playerTrackingDefense.html?pageNo=1&rowsPerPage=25

Player

GP

MIN per game

STL per game

BLK per game

Total BLK

Opp FGM at Rim per game

Opp FGA at Rim per game

Opp FGP at Rim

Serge Ibaka (OKC)

81

33.2

0.5

2.7

219

4.2

9.5

43.9%

Taj Gibson (CHI)

82

28.8

0.5

1.4

112

2.4

5.2

45.7%

Josh Smith (DET)

77

35.7

1.4

1.4

110

3.3

7.0

47.1%

Kevin Love (MIN)

77

36.5

0.8

0.5

35

5.2

9.1

57.4%

David Lee (GSW)

68

33.3

0.7

0.4

25

2.9

5.9

49.3%

Channing Frye (PHX)

82

28.3

0.7

0.8

63

3.4

6.5

52.2%

Markieff Morris (PHX)

81

26.7

0.8

0.6

51

2.8

5.0

56.1%

Thaddeus Young (PHI)

79

34.5

2.1

0.5

36

3.2

5.3

60.2%

Tristan Thompson (CLE)

82

31.8

0.5

0.4

35

3.1

5.2

59.1%

Rebounding opportunities

Per http://stats.nba.com/playerTrackingRebounding.html?pageNo=1&rowsPerPage=25

Player

GP

MIN per game

REB per game

Percentage of rebounds per chance

REB Chances per game

Total REB

Contested REB per game

Uncontested REB per game

Contested REB Percentage

Kevin Love (MIN)

77

36.5

12.5

66.1%

18.9

963

4.9

7.6

38.9%

Tristan Thompson (CLE)

82

31.8

9.2

54.2%

17.0

754

3.6

5.6

39.5%

Serge Ibaka (OKC)

81

33.2

8.8

61.5%

14.2

709

3.9

4.9

44.0%

David Lee (GSW)

68

33.3

9.4

56.8%

16.5

639

3.1

6.3

32.9%

Taj Gibson (CHI)

82

28.8

6.8

57.9%

11.7

558

2.7

4.1

39.6%

Josh Smith (DET)

77

35.7

6.8

59.4%

11.4

520

2.4

4.4

35.6%

Markieff Morris (PHX)

81

26.7

6.0

58.8%

10.1

485

2.2

3.8

36.9%

Thaddeus Young (PHI)

79

34.5

6.0

51.6%

11.7

476

2.5

3.6

40.8%

Channing Frye (PHX)

82

28.3

5.1

56.4%

9.0

416

1.7

3.4

32.7%

Other stats.NBA.com advanced data

Shooting efficiency - http://stats.nba.com/playerTrackingShooting.html?pageNo=1&rowsPerPage=25

Catch and shoot - http://stats.nba.com/playerTrackingCatchShoot.html?pageNo=1&rowsPerPage=25

Drives - http://stats.nba.com/playerTrackingDrives.html?pageNo=1&rowsPerPage=25

Pull up - http://stats.nba.com/playerTrackingPullUp.html?pageNo=1&rowsPerPage=25

Passing - http://stats.nba.com/playerTrackingPassing.html?pageNo=1&rowsPerPage=25

Speed and distance - http://stats.nba.com/playerTrackingSpeed.html?pageNo=1&rowsPerPage=25

Touches/possession - http://stats.nba.com/playerTrackingTouches.html?pageNo=1&rowsPerPage=25

Some Basketball-reference.com advanced stats

Per http://bkref.com/tiny/4c64v

BLK%

TRB%

TS%

FT%

ORtg

DRtg*

PER

Real +/-***

Gibson

3.7%

13.5%

52.4%

75.1%

102

100

16.0

4.14

Smith**

3.9%

13.6%

50.1%

51.7%

97

101

17.7

1.41 (s13/14)

Morris

1.8%

12.6%

56.4%

79.2%

111

106

18.4

-0.01

Frye

2.1%

10.1%

55.5%

82.1%

111

107

13.2

5.12

Young

1.1%

9.5%

51.2%

71.2%

101

108

16.6

1.69

Love

1.0%

18.7%

59.1%

82.1%

120

104

26.9

5.08

Thompson

1.1%

16.3%

52.8%

69.3%

110

108

14.9

-2.04

Ibaka

6.7%

15%

57.6%

78.4%

115

102

19.6

4.60

Lee

0.9%

15.3%

56.6%

78.0%

111

103

19.1

1.23

*lower is better

*** per ESPN.com

Shooting breakdown by distance

per basketball-reference.com

Distance in feet

(# of FGA)

2pt overall fg%

0-3

3-10

10-16

16+ (not 3pt)

3pt

Thompson

47.8%

58.0%

42.0%

34.9%

37.1%

00.0%

Smith**

49.8%

77.1%

36.6%

18.6%

32.4%

30.3%

Frye

50.9%

61.5%

45.8%

54.7%

45.0%

37.0%

Love

50.2%

66.9%

41.2%

35.4%

40.0%

37.6%

Gibson

48.3%

63.8%

35.6%

39.9%

39.7%

00.0%

Ibaka

54.6%

73.1%

38.1%

49.0%

45.7%

38.3%

Young

49.6%

64.5%

37.4%

33.8%

32.6%

30.8%

Morris

51.2%

65.8%

40.1%

47.8%

42.9%

31.5%

Lee

52.3%

67.0%

40.8%

39.0%

35.7%

00.0%

Mysynergysports.com stats

DEF – Isolation

%TIME

NUMBER OF POSSESSIONS

Points per possession allowed

RANK

%SCORE (resulting in FGM or FTM)

Taj Gibson

24.8%

163

0.82

134

38%

Josh Smith*

16.5%

128

0.65

32

33.6%

Thaddeus Young

15.7%

119

0.78

103

37%

Markieff Morris

8.6%

47

0.98

254

51.1%

Channing Frye

13.4%

85

0.94

229

44.7%

Kevin Love

11.8%

71

0.77

93

38%

David Lee

12.5%

84

0.79

111

39.3%

Tristan Thompson

13.5%

88

0.93

219

45.5%

Serge Ibaka

17.6%

150

0.81

123

38.7%

DEF – Post-up

%TIME

NUMBER

PPP

RANK

%SCORE (resulting in FGM or FTM)

Taj Gibson

19.7%

129

0.83

117

42.6%

Josh Smith*

24%

187

0.71

41

36.4%

Thaddeus Young

20.6%

156

0.94

204

48.1%

Markieff Morris

37.5%

205

0.7

38

37.6%

Channing Frye

35.1%

223

0.83

117

43%

Kevin Love

40%

240

0.72

44

36.3%

David Lee

37.2%

251

0.88

156

44.6%

Tristan Thompson

30.7%

200

0.89

165

45%

Serge Ibaka

27.5%

235

0.85

129

43.8%

DEF – P'n'R roll man

%TIME

NUMBER

PPP

RANK

%SCORE (resulting in FGM or FTM)

Taj Gibson*

16.3%

107

0.83

43

37.4%

Josh Smith

9.1%

71

0.92

76

40.8%

Thaddeus Young

8.3%

63

1

92

44.4%

Markieff Morris

13.6%

74

0.8

31

39.2%

Channing Frye

14.9%

95

0.81

37

38.9%

Kevin Love

10.5%

63

0.94

78

42.9%

David Lee

17.5%

118

0.79

26

34.7%

Tristan Thompson

16.7%

109

0.88

52

41.3%

Serge Ibaka

13.8%

118

0.8

31

39.8%

DEF – Spot-up

%TIME

NUMBER

PPP

RANK

%SCORE (resulting in FGM or FTM)

Taj Gibson

30.8%

202

0.92

117

38.1%

Josh Smith*

34.8%

271

0.93

133

38.4%

Thaddeus Young

47.8%

361

0.97

186

38%

Markieff Morris

33%

180

0.88

74

35%

Channing Frye

30%

191

1.05

275

44%

Kevin Love

29.3%

176

0.94

149

37.5%

David Lee

24.6%

166

0.98

200

41.6%

Tristan Thompson

33.6%

219

0.94

149

38.4%

Serge Ibaka

33.6%

287

0.97

187

41.5%

Offense

Isolation ppp&rank

Post-Up ppp&rank

p&r roll man ppp&rank

Spot-Up

ppp&rank

Cut

ppp&rank

Transition

ppp&rank

Morris

0.77(137)

0.94(39)

1.19(14)

0.92(203)

1.29(56)

1.27(51)

Frye

0.96(35)

0.95(34)

1.18(17)

0.97(161)

/

1.1(172)

Love

0.8(122)

0.92(44)

1.12(31)

1.06(101)

1.32(46)

1.29(43)

Ibaka

0.75(147)

0.85(81)

1.07(47)

0.92(203)

1.36(32)

1.31(34)

Smith**

0.76(120)

0.74(121)

1.01(59)

/

1.22(94)

1.12(166)

Thompson

0.87(83)

0.83(95)

1.06(58)

0.77(299)

1.08(168)

1.32(31)

Lee

1(20)

0.86(76)

1.01(76)

0.84(262)

1.1(159)

1.27(51)

Gibson

0.49(209)

0.78(117)

0.84(130)

0.95(178)

1.19(108)

1.16(132)

Young

0.76(143)

0.85(81)

0.98(89)

0.81(275)

1.17(123)

1.08(184)

Some articles&links on Thompson and Gibson

Tristan Thompson

- http://www.fearthesword.com/2013/10/26/5031474/cleveland-cavaliers-hype-machine-what-to-make-of-tristan-thompson

- http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1938832-tristan-thompson-not-kyrie-irving-has-been-cavaliers-mvp-thus-far

- http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/13/for-cavaliers-tristan-thompson-keeps-getting-better/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

- http://nba.si.com/2013/08/10/tristan-thompson-right-handed-left-handed-switch-canada-cleveland-cavaliers/

- http://nbatalk247.com/2013/10/30/why-tristan-thompson-will-win-the-most-improved-player-award/

- http://raptorsrapture.com/2014/05/20/clevelands-tristan-thompson-block-lets-bring-home/

Taj Gibson


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