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Suns Win Season Opener over Sonics 106-99

Boxscore NBA.com Recap

Well, it wasn't pretty. In fact, the Suns looked downright rusty at times in their season opener, and Seattle rookie Kevin Durant looked like he had been playing in the NBA for a lot longer than a week. The Sonics played like the team that wanted it more for the better part of three quarters, but ultimately, the Suns' experience prevailed. The Suns broke out a 10-point lead in the fourth quarter, and won the game by seven.

The Good: Marcus Banks made four of his six shots, including 4-5 three pointers. In addition, many of his shots came at critical times when the Suns really needed to score. Brian Skinner made the most of his limited time, nailing both of his shots, and playing much better defense inside than anyone else on the team. Amare Stoudemire, Grant Hill, Steve Nash, and Shawn Marion also made some nice plays in key moments to help seal the win.

The Bad: The Suns were out-rebounded by six, and gave up 11 offensive rebounds.

The Ugly: Turnovers killed the Suns in the first half. Amare picking up his third foul in the first half was pretty ugly too.

Player of the Game: Marcus Banks. He didn't have the best +/- (that was Boris Diaw), he wasn't the highest scorer (that was Amare Stoudemire), and he wasn't the guy making the big shots at the end of the game (that was Steve Nash). But I'm giving this honor to Marcus anyway tonight because (a) his spot-on three point shooting kept the Suns in it earlier in the game, and (b) it may be the only time all year I get to type the words "Marcus Banks was Player of the Game".

Runner-Up: Chris Wilcox. Kevin Durant will get most of the props in the media and they are well deserved. But Wilcox hurt the Suns more with 23 points on 11-17 shooting, and 11 rebounds, including four of the maddening offensive variety. He also had three steals.

Grading the Game: All total, I'd give the Suns a B- tonight I think. Not their best work, but enough to get it done against a young, inexperienced Seattle team. One down, 81 more to go until the playoffs.

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Ralph Banks
I was thinking that Marcus' twin, Ralph, must have stolen his uniform and started playing.  Who was that guy?

Note, though, that his misses occurred when he tried to pull up for a jumper off the dribble.  I said this last year, too:  He needs to spot-up for his jumper or drive.  He doesn't have the game (at least yet) to create his own jumper.

Boris showed flashes of 2005-2006, but also some frustrating flahses of his non-agressiveness last season.  It was nice to see him taking, and hitting, the open jump shots.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Nov 2, 2007 12:16 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Stats
Some quick hits on some stats.

Things I like to see:

-Diaw with 6 assists. That's a good capacity for him  in the offense. 7 points and 2 steals.

-Nash with 7 turnovers. Nash pushed a lot of cross court passes that the Sonics looked like they had prepped for.

-Pace was 107.0, right where the Suns need to be. We ran as much as we always have, but ran with more precision and control, thanks a lot to Hill.

-56.5% in eFG. The Suns shot better as the game wore on, which is a good sign.

Not so much...

-We gave up a 22% OREB%. Yikes. 1 out of every 5 rebounds was an offensive board for them. That's a very, very bad thing.

-Turnover, obviously. 18.7% TO% is UGly. Gotta clean it up.

by Ridiculous Matt on Nov 2, 2007 12:17 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Banks and Defense - tell me you predicted that!
Any game that the Suns win on Banks and 4th qtr defense is an ugly game. But the point is they won when they weren't playing well and that's one sign of a great team.

To bad Marks didn't play b/c of injury (no idea what he injured? His hair?) but it was good to see Banks get some key minutes and make the most of them and great to see Diaw hit some open J's. And while Diaw did pass up some layups I watched him close and his D was solid and passing was outstanding.

I still would like to have seen one more player in the rotation but the Sonics are a pretty big team so I guess there's not much room for DJ or AT to play in game like this.

In a few more weeks the Suns will be beating down teams like this by 20 pts. Heck w/ 50% less turnovers and 50% more 3's - both well within normal ranges - the Suns win this game by 20 even w/ the rustiness and Amare's foul trouble.

Oh - and yes, Durant is a stud. Is there anywhere on the floor this guy can't score from? He's a combination of Dirk's height and outside J (without Dirk's dirkiness), T-Mac's slashing and finishing, and Kobe's mid range game. In a few more years w/ some man meat on him...

by Seth Pollack on Nov 2, 2007 12:26 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Ralph Banks
The thing that got me with Banks was the clutchness of his shooting.

The TNT commentators kept saying that D'Antoni's plan was to "play whoever's playing well," and I kept thinking that Banks might play more of the 4th.

Don't sound so surprised about the defense.  They're a mediocre defensive team and the majority of the Sonics players aren't of legal drinking age.  You know that would catch up with Seattle.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Nov 2, 2007 8:21 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and happy opening night!
Its great to be back watching the Suns and looking forward to a nice long season of exciting basketball. And looking forward to taking my boy to tomorrow's home opener!

by Seth Pollack on Nov 2, 2007 12:29 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Lucky!
You're going to the home opener, I envy thee and thy son! ;-)
Hope you guys have a great time!
If ya can't jump 'em out, then box 'em out!

by PurplePinoy on Nov 2, 2007 12:44 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not great, but not horrid
  Its evident that the Suns have the capacity to recognize their mistakes and make adjustments. STAT and Trix barricaded the paint more efficiently than the first half. The amount of turnovers went down too. To tell the truth I'm not all that worried about tonight's performance, I've seen this group over and over again, knowing what to expect out of them and feeling secure.
  I do however want to see more out of the bench. At this point, I'm more excited to see the bench just because I know its going to be a challenge and when they overcome it you can't help but feel good.
I'm not comfortable seeing two bench players accounting for 4 spots again.
LB is a competent passer, and dangerous scorer, making him prime for both the 1 and 2. Diaw is athletic and tall making him flexible in the paint. But I want to see the jobs evenly distributed this year, and for once I think we have enough GOOD men to do it.
I would like to see LB at the 2-guard because he's so deadly and Banks at the point a lot more. Not that he's a great distributor, but Banks is able in passing and plays good defense.
This way we can limit Nash's minutes.
Boris is perfect as Trix back up, accounting for agility, and height. I want to see more of Skinner though as STAT's backup, he needs to gear up for match-ups like Yao, Duncan, and Dampier. Plus with STAT's health and foul history, the 5 spot is a bit shaky. We have the depth, now lets spread the attack and utilize the new and improved weapons we have.
If ya can't jump 'em out, then box 'em out!

by PurplePinoy on Nov 2, 2007 12:40 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Bench
This was my feeling exactly. I don't worry about the Suns starters (including LB) but for me the key this season is how well the bench plays. Can they hold leads (last night they took back and expanded on the lead) and can key guys step up and key moments. Again - an A+ last night.

I been thinking all along that the Suns are a MUCH deeper and talented team then last year and I also happen to think that the loss of KT has been blown out of proportion. I don't really get how everyone says he played good D on Duncan when TD averaged about 300 ppg. Sure - he looked good getting scored on but its not like he shut the guy down. I think the combo of Skinner and Marks will be more then up to the task of filling Krazy-Eye's shoes. Oh - and did anyone else notice Skinner hit and open mid-range J?

by Seth Pollack on Nov 2, 2007 9:23 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I did.
I did see that mid-range jumper! It came while the TNT people were bashing his offensive abilities.
If ya can't jump 'em out, then box 'em out!

by PurplePinoy on Nov 2, 2007 5:51 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

A solid win
I think it was a solid win, despite not playing a great game. Suns looked a bit rusty but remained calm and made key plays in the second half.
I was really impressed by Durant (the best looking 11-23 shooting of the year...).
Great to see Banks play like that.

by Son of Steve Nash on Nov 2, 2007 3:04 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I gave them a "C."
But I used a lot of red pen.

by Jesus H on Nov 2, 2007 7:47 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm okay now.
Professor Hill, the new old sage on campus just gave me a pep talk: "Not every game is going to be a blowout. At certain times of the game, you focus, get stops and execute."

by Jesus H on Nov 2, 2007 8:06 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

From the Post-Intellegencer
..."The Sonics shot just 34 percent in the second half and committed nine turnovers while point guard Earl Watson collected just one assist in nearly 18 minutes. Phoenix forced the Sonics into a halfcourt offense, something they don't appear comfortable running at this point.

Carlesimo went deep into the bench and found Wally Szczerbiak, who came in to score seven consecutive points for an 82-73 lead.

Carlesimo's defense is designed to prevent 3-point attempts, but Phoenix insisted on launching long-range shots. Banks was critical in bringing the Suns back with three consecutive 3-pointers to tie the score at 82 early in the fourth quarter. The Suns hit four of eight 3-pointers in the period.

"The 20 turnovers that led to 22 points for them almost killed us," Phoenix coach Mike D'Antoni said. "So they shot 41 percent while getting layups some of the time, so I'm pretty pleased with that. It's just good to get out of here with a win."

Durant appeared less anxious in his second consecutive game in the national spotlight. He scored his first home bucket on a layup with 10:57 left in the first quarter and added another sprawling layup and a jump shot to give Seattle a 19-15 lead.

Durant added a scoring flurry late in the first half with six straight points, including a 20-footer for a 51-47 lead. The Suns' Grant Hill canned his lone 3-pointer of the half and Nash later tied it at 53 with a three. After a Hill miss, Damien Wilkins pushed the ball, stopped just shy of the half-court line and launched a 49-footer that splashed through the basket for a 56-53 lead at the break.

Durant led the Sonics in the first half with 18 points on 7-for-14 shooting but had four turnovers.

"I just tried to come out hard, be aggressive and help my team out as much as I could," said Durant, who has 45 points in two games. "We came up short. (The NBA) is what I expected, guys were quick and they were strong. They get up and down the floor with a quick tempo. It's two games into the year and we have 80 more left."

PLAYER OF THE GAME: Marcus Banks changed the tone of the game with three consecutive 3-pointers that tied the game at 82. The Suns were misfiring badly from the 3-point line before Banks' hot streak in the third period. He scored 12 points in 14 minutes. He scored in double figures just five times last year.

PLAY OF THE GAME: Damien Wilkins canned a half-court shot at the buzzer to end the half with the Sonics ahead 56-53. Wilkins finished with 12 points on 4-for-14 shooting.

WILCOX UPDATE: There was a reason Chris Wilcox played just 12 minutes of the second half and scored two points in the Sonics' 120-103 loss to Denver. Wilcox was nauseated at halftime and vomited several times. Sonics coach P.J. Carlesimo said he became sick with an asthmatic problem, but Wilcox said he was unsure about the illness. "

The full article.

by Jesus H on Nov 2, 2007 8:01 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Hill's 3s
Thoughts on this?  Grant was 1 for 7 on three-pointers, but the majority of the shots he took were wide-open looks.  He's going to get these looks in this offense.

Coach D said he wants Hill taking about 4 a game (STAT jacked one up, too -- very disturbing but that's another post).  So, was Hill being greedy or did PJ tell his guys to let Hill chuck away?

I'd like to think he could be nailing these by mid-season, just because he does have a nice stroke.  I think patience all-around is warranted, but how soon do you pull the plug?

I'm not sure on this, but I think the logical answer is to give him a dozen or so games.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Nov 2, 2007 9:30 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I like what he brings..
..but if he goes 1-for-7 again and again (and especially if he does it as JSun said- when left largely unguarded) I think it might be time to revoke his shooting license.

Or is the glass half-full?... Other teams may play stronger perimeter D on him (and others) and that will open the lanes for our wildest Nash fantasies to come true.

by Jesus H on Nov 2, 2007 9:51 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Open 3s for Hill
I suppose the question is whether I wouldn't leave Hill open if I were on the other team.  Let him chuck it and go 1 for 7.  Why would anyone play stronger perimeter D when he's shooting like that?
Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Nov 2, 2007 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

A lion in winter?
I don't think so. Like I said, I like what he brings and I'm gonna assume that he's still got his stroke. (He just forgot to take it on the trip to Seattle last night.)

But it's an interesting premise: Do you leave him open to have his 1-for-7 nights (as long as he continues to have them)? And if you do, are you doing so because you're daring him to make his shots or because (like the Sonics) you simply don't have the experienced personnel to challenge him and/or respond when the old hand finds the open man?

by Jesus H on Nov 2, 2007 11:27 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

His stroke?
Grant Hill's a slasher and mid-range guy. He's never had a three point stroke. In his career, he's only made 66 three-points (out of 266 attempts). I don't know why the hell he's shooting seven now.

We may as well have Brian Skinner shooting them too.

G

by rosewood on Nov 2, 2007 1:38 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right.
He prolly shouldn't be taking seven in one night but with other fellas able run and slash maybe it's not a bad idea to have him out there trying to thin out the D.

However, it appears that if it was some kind of a decoy, PJ wasn't falling for it.

by Jesus H on Nov 2, 2007 2:37 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

No one was hitting open 3's
in the first half. Marion, Bell, Hill and LB all were off from deep. Yet another sign of a how good the Suns are that they can win when that shot isn't falling. That used to be a knock on the Suns but now w/ Amare in the post and I would say w/ Diaw, Hill and of course Nash all able to penetrate and create open looks just makes this team all the more dangerous.

Look out when a couple of the Suns are having hot hands - teams will be unable to pack in the paint and defend the 3 and we will see the Suns avg 110+ / game.

by Seth Pollack on Nov 2, 2007 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Patience
I am willing to wait a little while for Hill to start draining those three-pointers.  He has a nice stroke and I don't see why he shouldn't be able to his those when he's open.

And, true, everyone was off.  Wasn't Bell something like 2 for 7?  Ralph Banks carried the day with his marksmanship.  It's either a great sign of a harbinger of the apocalypse.

Remember, too, though, that you really only have to hit 1 of 3 from downtown.  That gives you the equivalent point production of hitting half of your two-pointers.

I suppose my main concern with Hill's 3-point shooting is the in the number of attempts he took.  7 is quite a bit for anyone, and his great addition to this offense really is from 18 feet in.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Nov 2, 2007 12:14 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Woohoo!!
I'm so glad the season is finally underway. The off-season seemed to last an eternity.

I thought Amare was the player of the game although Marcus did provide a much-needed spark at just the right time, so I can't argue with picking him.

Shawn and Steve were Shawn and Steve. Raja was clearly struggling, especially when he had to guard Durant (that guy will be a star!).

Boris was his usual frustrating self. Two really nice shots to start the game, then he started passing up chances left and right. Grr.

It'd be really nice if Grant Hill were a 3-point shooter, but I think he's just not. He wasn't even close on most of his long shots. Had some good slashes to the bucket, and he is obviously a savvy player, and that's a good thing.

I was happy with Brian Skinner in his limited minutes. Nice follow slam, sweet 15-footer. But I was sad to see Kurt Thomas sitting in street clothes on Seattle's bench (although better than if he'd been in the game scoring against us!). I guess he has a tweaked hammy.

Marks has a hurt back, apparently, which is why he didn't play. No sign of the rookies either, but it was a tight game and definitely important to win the first one.

Now Beat LA!

by SueB on Nov 2, 2007 9:33 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Banks
hurray for Banks!  

by kidjay on Nov 2, 2007 12:31 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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