Bell Suggests Toughness
An article at AZCentral.com is quoting Raja Bell as saying the Suns need to toughen up. I agree with him. Some interesting quotes:
"Look, you get caught up in that (throwing elbows) with the Spurs and you will lose. They're good at it. As much as everyone would like to spin it and have us out there fighting (Monday night), you can't do that. I hope guys understand that's not the answer."
"We have a game plan. They're doing certain things; we've designed a defense to counter. We go over it for two days. I don't know if we're tired or what the situation is, but we have to be mentally tough enough to execute. When we don't, Timmy (Duncan) will have 30 points and 20 rebounds and Manu will get 24 and we'll lose. But when we do it, they can't beat us."
"We've been in the newspapers and people have been making a big deal about that. I'm sure (the Spurs) are having a real good time with it, so it's time to stop talking and say, 'Hey, let's go play.'"
And my favorite quote, although it comes from Kurt Thomas:
"If you feel you need to throw an elbow, then you need to throw an elbow. But it's more about putting a body on their body, boxing out and not allowing them to just walk in and get easy shots."
And you know what? I agree. We're complaining too much as Suns fans. We're sounding like Dallas fans. I don't know about you but I certainly don't want to be associated with Dallas fans.
So let's buck up, Suns fans! Let's cheer our team on, not complain and toughen up as fans. We can do this guys! The Suns can do this! So from this thread forward through the rest of the series, I don't want to say I'm banning all pessimistic talk but I don't want to see a lot of blaming the Spurs for the losses. Let's figure out what we would do if we were the coaches of the Suns. How can the Suns win the game on Monday?
COME ON GUYS!! LET'S CHEER OUR TEAM TO VICTORY!!
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Uh oh?
Please no starting LB against the Spurs. Been there, tried that, didn't work. PLEASE don't try that again, Coach. PLEASE. I'm begging you. :)
I'm guessing this is just Doug Haller's wild speculation, not anything that's being seriously considered. At least I hope that's all it is.
If it's Haller, it's speculation
by Dan @ Bright Side Of The Sun on May 13, 2007 9:34 PM MDT up reply actions
looking for changes where they shouldn't
- Nash shooting like he normally does
- Amare getting 38-40 minutes and scoring like he normally does
- The bell comment, execute on defense
That's it
Amare needs to be in the game... hell, another 10 minutes in the game and he would have had another 10 points going by his numbers.
Overall, they just need to play Suns basketball and contain Manu and Parker on defense but with that added desperation and intensity that they usually bring when they're coming from behind.
I'd also add that we need to attack Duncan. Send some guys at him and force some calls... a few early calls on him, if that's at all possible and the entire game changes in the Suns favor. This is basically what they're doing to Amare... why not attack the Big Boring with some of our perimeter guys, Bell, Nash, Marion and force the refs to call a fair game. I expect to see Rambo Nash out there ready to take this game like the MVP that he is.
I'm also expecting a 15-20 point win by the Suns which makes this a tied series going home. If they can make this work tomorrow, I wouldn't be surprised if they win the next two straight.
Go Suns!
Bowen under investigation
Nash declined after Saturday's game and again Sunday to voice any public displeasure with Bowen's physical play. But the league decided anyway to conduct a full investigation into this incident after declining to do so when Bowen was accused of intentionally kicking Amare Stoudemire in Game 2.
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by Seth Pollack on May 14, 2007 9:33 AM MDT up reply actions
Wow
by Dan @ Bright Side Of The Sun on May 13, 2007 11:07 PM MDT up reply actions
My guess is...
Suspension?
Of course, I think he should be suspended b/c this is his pattern of dirty play and he needed to be punished for it.
Speaking of suspensions, I wonder if Baron Davis is going to get a game for that elbow to Fisher's ear?
by Seth Pollack on May 14, 2007 9:35 AM MDT up reply actions
No suspension please!
I would like to see him fined, however. It will send him a message to be careful. If the NBA lets this slide, he will become even more confident and do it (and worse) multiple times.
A hefty fine will be the best solution.
by Vash01 @ Bright Side Of The Sun on May 14, 2007 12:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Raja
Steve Nash is a different story though. He may not always get the calls, and he did not against SA on Saturday, but at least the NBA is reviewing this. I doubt that anything will be done to Bowen. May be a nominal fine, at the most. If they suspend him for a game, it will be worse for the Suns because it will fire up the Spurs. I would rather catch them overconfident and careless.
The Spurs must feel very confident that the officials won't call fouls against them, or Bowen would have been more careful.
Game 4 will be do or die for the Suns. It's all about execution. The team with the most intensity, focus and execution will win the game, regardless of the officiating.
I have no hopes for the Suns at all. Looking ahead to next season.
by Vash01 @ Bright Side Of The Sun on May 13, 2007 11:45 PM MDT reply actions
no!
I think this is it. The 92-93 made the finals. The Suns didn't make it to the 3rd round again UNTIL Nash redux.
I hope (and really, I know) the players feel the same.
by kidjay on May 14, 2007 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions
in response
did anyone see the G.S. Utah game, I'm referring to the Baron Davis elbowing and knocking down Derek Fisher. If you haven't seen it, believe me, it's worth looking at. A lot of people have been praising Davis this playoffs, I hear someone say he's the mvp of the playoffs every other day, this was an act of frustration and his elbow hit fisher's head! I'm thinking there will be a suspension for this, just thought I'd throw it out there. I have much less respect for Davis now. Even Bell, the first example Laker fans, and others bring up with us Suns, the Kobe clothesline, it was in response to being hit in the face or groin again ad again by Kobe. I personally feel Bell is like Thomas, they're the 2 people on our team who will be the reason or influence, when we come back and beat the spurs Monday.
GSW & Utah
I watched only the 4th Q and a part of the 3rd. I did see when Fisher was down on the floor, but they did not have a replay of that play, so it is hard to tell if it was deliberate or not. The officials did not call a foul on Davis, so I guess it was incidental contact. Without a tape of it, it is hard to draw any conclusions.
Toward the end of the game though the Warriors appeared tired and frustrated. In the last few minutes they missed key shots and FT's (Baron missed both of his), they made bad decisions (Barnes took a 3-point shot that was not needed). It looked like they were tired. That worries me. If the Suns make it to the WCF, they will be battling Utah. Those guys are big, they have a deep bench and Boozer is a monster. I think if any team matches up with SA it's the Jazz. They have not always executed, but if they do like they did tonight, they could be deadly for any team, including the Spurs.
by Vash01 @ Bright Side Of The Sun on May 13, 2007 11:58 PM MDT reply actions
yep
Nice...
As for their game tonight, it seemed the Jazz were down most of the time and just fought back at the end of every quarter, usually thanks to their only veteran, Fisher. They were fumbling the ball all over the court until Fisher pulled them together and sparked the finish. They still look too sloppy to me to beat San Antonio or Phoenix. Of course much of that sloppiness is due to the swarming defense of the Warriors.
Utah is scaring me
Utah is getting it done. At times they have played poorly but they have fought back each time (down 0-2 to Houston) and got it done (once in OT). That is winner. They have beaten the Suns 3 times in close games. They know how to close a game and a series. They will be tough to beat in the WCF.
The thought of Utah in the WCF is not pleasant, but we have to get past SA first.
Sorry to disappoint all the optimists here; I think it's going to be SA in the WCF. I just don't see SA giving up their upper hand and losing to the Suns tonight. That's another team that always gets it done.
However, Dallas did beat them in game 7 in SA last year.
by Vash01 @ Bright Side Of The Sun on May 14, 2007 8:37 AM MDT up reply actions
Tonight
I don't have much to add comments-wise on game 3 that hasn't been said and I won't have time to watch the game in detail today.
I agree that the officiating was HORRIBLE and far worse then game 1. The non-calls on Duncan and the couple of cheap calls on Amare and KT were just beyond belief. You can't call the game one way for one team and another way for the other. I guess it pays off being the biggest Whiners in all of Whine-land. It sucks. There. I'm done w/ my venting. Sorry Dan.
I do think that the Suns let the bad calls into their head and perhaps even the Coach did as well.
I also think there a couple of serious mistakes the Suns made as well:
- Boris looked great at first until they started collapsing on him. The Spurs don't double in the traditional way from the strong side and forcing the ball out of your hands. They come from the weak (non-ball) side of the post and wait for you when you make your move. That way you have to go through several of them to get to the hoop. I said that Amare needed to pass out when they did this and I think Boris made the same mistake. After he scored in the post a few times in a row they changed their defense and started that collapse thing. Numerous times from there Boris still tried to go through them and score instead of making the good pass. His team mates were also standing around too much and not moving to give him a good outlet. Maybe this is poor coaching? I don't know how you could not be prepared for it if you are a Suns post player.
- The last few minutes of the 3rd Qtr were crucial. Props to Manu for maning-up after Shawn hit him in the eye. But w/ Parker and Duncan on the bench the Suns 2nd unit CAN'T let Manu outplay them like that. This part of the game should be a Suns plus and it wasn't. The Sun's let down here.
- Amare's 5th foul was dumb and he knows it.
- Duncan continues to be amazing. I keep waiting for him go cold. Maybe KT needs to do something early to get under his skin. There was some points in game 3 where KT was grabbing his jersey and it seemed to bother Timmy. I have lost a lot of respect for Duncan in this series as a person but his game is way better then I thought. He's been unstoppable so far. I don't think they should double him though expect for critical points like in the 4th quarter.
- In the fourth Qtr when Nash was carrying the team and willing a victory, three times they left guys WIDE open for 3's. Nash was at fault himself here at least twice. And I think there was several times a Sun was back complaining and not covering up on D.
The Suns are a far better team and in a seven game series should win. The Suns will win tonight and come back tied and win it in 6!
Bickley
by Vash01 @ Bright Side Of The Sun on May 14, 2007 10:35 AM MDT reply actions
Tonight
Since I won't get home before 8:45pm, I am thinking that I may just skip the whole game, then watch the entire tape from the beginning. This takes a lot of discipline though. Besides, it will be tough to not watch the Q4 while it is still being played.
This is one of the few times I am actually afraid of watching the entire game- too much stress. I feel that SA will win it, so why bother to watch?
by Vash01 @ Bright Side Of The Sun on May 14, 2007 10:39 AM MDT reply actions
Exactly but
So, Vash that's my plan. Except I anticipate a Sun's win. I get that you are doing the reverse phsych thing though...hope that works!
by Seth Pollack on May 14, 2007 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions
srp
by Vash01 @ Bright Side Of The Sun on May 15, 2007 2:12 AM MDT up reply actions
Thanks
And, there over 250 people at his funeral. On a playoff night!
Btw, I managed to avoid the score until I got home. I was able to watch the game all the way through w/o knowing the outcome - which was fantastic given the finish. How about you?
by Seth Pollack on May 15, 2007 4:13 PM MDT up reply actions
article
About the game- I am impressed with your discipline in avoiding the score. At the most I would have started watching from Q4. It would have taken all the patience in the world to watch the whole game when the outcome was already known to all but the viewer.
by Vash01 @ Bright Side Of The Sun on May 16, 2007 6:51 PM MDT up reply actions
More to life...
Keep in mind...
Reg season
by Seth Pollack on May 14, 2007 12:03 PM MDT up reply actions

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