Spurs Take Game 5
The Suns played an awesome game. They were missing 30 points between Stoudemire and Diaw. And yet they lead most of the game. Unfortunately, they started getting tired in the last 3 minutes and the Suns just couldn't hold on.
But what do you expect? The Suns were basically playing 6 players against the Spurs' 10 players.
The things the Suns can take away from this game? They were missing 30 points and only lost by 3. The only reason the Suns lost was because they got tired and ended being on the crummy end of a 17-6 run by the Spurs.
What does this mean for the Suns? It means they have a 17% chance to win the series. They have to win 2 games in a row with one of the games being in San Antonio. The Suns will be at full strength on Friday. They'll have Amare and Boris back. The Spurs will not have Cheap Shot Bob back for that game. But who really cares whether he's back anyway? He's just an old man who doesn't produce anyway.
I'm proud of the way the Suns played this game. They could have just given in and they didn't. They played their hearts out and were a 3 point shot away from winning it. They got 5 more shots than the Spurs. They shot the exact same percentage - 40.3%. They only missed 1 free throw. They won the rebound game. They won the assist game. Unfortunately, they had 2 more turnovers and that was what killed them.
I wonder what David Stern is thinking right now. I know he was scheduled to come to Phoenix for this game but canceled because he was afraid for his life. And he should have been.
If you look at the box score, the teams were pretty much even. But you know what the Spurs did? They made 1 three point shot more than the Suns. And that was what they won by.
It's just unbelievable.
I am still optimistic for Friday's game. I do think the Suns can win that game. Look at what they did without two of their best players! They've already beat the Spurs in San Antonio once. They can do it again. You can't fault the Suns for anything tonight. They played their hearts out and just lost by a little bit.
I'm a little frustrated right now so I'm going to stop writing. But I want it known that I'm not frustrated with the Suns. I'm frustrated with the dirty Spurs, I'm frustrated with the NBA, I'm frustrated with Amare and Boris for not thinking. But the guys who played tonight? I'm not frustrated with them at all.
GO SUNS!
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100 percent....correct
Great game Suns....win...lose...whatever I was proud to be a Suns fan tonight and will always be.
My hats off to the Dirty Spurs...they did what they had to do to win, and made the shots when they had to. I have always hated and will continue to hate them for being a dirty team, but tonight I had to respect them (its to late...early to be held accountable for anything).
I think I read in a blog earlier this evening...we are not the same Suns of old...they grew up in this series.
One thing for sure...this series is not over...so lets not lose hope.
by USMCGUNZ on May 17, 2007 12:11 AM MDT 0 recs
Hope?
by Whaat on May 17, 2007 12:12 AM MDT 0 recs
Frustration
by nundeeram on May 17, 2007 12:14 AM MDT 0 recs
Fatigue
How about Horry saying Nash flopped in that game 4? He really is a punk isn't he. I wish one of the Suns bodychecks Parker hard man, and then they can talk about playoff fouls.
by Whaat on
May 17, 2007 12:22 AM MDT
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I was there
Damn Stu and Stern to the deepest darkest depths of hell. Mark my words we'll have the last laugh this series. We'll win game 6 and we'll bring it back home for Game 7. We aint through yet, not by a long shot. It'll take alot more than some archaic rule and cheep shots to take this team down.
by Turambar on May 17, 2007 12:41 AM MDT 0 recs
There, too
The Spurs should be very scared about Amare's "Second Coming" this season.
by JSun on
May 17, 2007 1:10 AM MDT
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The System Won
But this was not a victory for the Sours; it was a victory for the System that ALLOWED them the victory.
Let the Sours enjoy the moment...let them pat them selves on the back, as if they had accomplished something. Let them comment on the win....and let us all remind them:
Not only have you let down your fan base, but by sticking Stern in your pocket, you've let down the NBA, as a whole.
I feel sorry for the true Spurs fans, for they weren't asking to be part of the Sours.
by DrStrom on May 17, 2007 1:18 AM MDT 0 recs
I was there too
At half time I was a little concerned because they led by only 11 points. From the way the two teams played, the Suns should have led by 20. They were that good. SA could not do anything right.
At the end of the 3rd Q the Suns had a precarious 6 point lead. However, initially they responded well when SA made a few baskets. However, SA caught up and once they saw the light, they were not going to let the tired Suns off the hook.
Some things concerned me.
1.With such a short rotation why did Dantoni not use more of his bench? He has Rose, Pike, Banks. If he had played each of them 2-3 minutes, it would have given the starters rest and they might have pulled it off at the end. Dantoni drives me nuts with his bull headed approach, unwillingness to make adjustments, and banging his head on a door that would never open. What a waste of money to sign these players and making them sit on the bench even when the starters are absolutely fatigued.
2.Our 6th man of the year is AWOL. What;s happened to LB in this series? He can't even score 10 points, he cannot handle the ball- he turns it over, he cannot make 3-point shots or layups. Tonight especially we needed a big contribution from him and he was the one who turned the ball over with the score tied at 81. He was the only player I was totally frustrated with.
Nash was having difficulty throughout. There were no easy assists, no rest, and the result was lots of turnovers which made the difference in the game, especially in the second half.
Kurt Thomas was phenomenal. It was worth trading for him. Again, Dantoni inexplicably pulled him out toward the end when the Suns needed to stop the Spurs. The Spurs scored and the Suns lost.
It was a valiant effort by the Suns who were short handed. My hat's off to them. HOwever, this was a game they could have and should have won. Their perimeter defense was another culprit. The Suns fouled on 3-point plays TWICE (once by Nash) and the Spurs made all 6 FT's. The Spurs have suddenly become a very good FT shooting team and that has hurt the Suns. Not only do the Spurs get more foul calls in their favor but they also make the FT's now.
Charles Barkley said even though Stoudemire and Diaw will be back on Fri. this team is so fatigued because of tonight's game that the Suns will not win on Fri. I agree with him. The Spurs did not play their best in the 1st half. I attribute it to the crowd. It was fantastic to be there and cheer on the Suns. On every possession the Spurs were booed.
When I walking to the arena tonight, I had a feeling that this was the last home game of the season for the Suns. They are likely to lose to the Spurs on Fri. and that will be the end of the season for them. Last year when I went to game 6 against Dallas, I had a very distinct feeling that it was the last game of the season for the Suns and that's what happened.
Hope is gone. Amare and Boris's return will not change the outcome of the series. A robberty was committed and the series was taken away from us.
One sign in the arena read:
N- No
B- Brain
A- Association (actually I don't remember what A stood for but you get the picture).
I completely agree.
by Vash01 on May 17, 2007 1:33 AM MDT 0 recs
I think you're right
On a related note, I am seriously considering going to the game on Friday. I think it will be the last time this particular Suns team as presently constructed will play together, unless Robert Sarver is angry enough about how this all turned out to pay the luxury tax and keep the team together. If it does turn out to be the elimination game, the long drive home after the game will help start the "healing", and if not, it would mean I got to see the biggest win of the season. Seems like a great idea, provided I can find something close to a reasonable deal on such short notice.
by TexSUN on
May 17, 2007 2:07 AM MDT
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TexSun
Although Amare & Boris will be back, we cannot assume that the Spurs will play at the same level. They will play to win and they will be at home. I just don't see logically how the Suns can win Fri. I hope Dantoni is giving them the day off today (no basketball). They will be traveling of course.
Shame on NBA for destroying the chances of the best team in the league to win the title.
My prediction for game 6: Spurs by 10 to 15 points.
The Suns will be back next season.
by Vash01 on
May 17, 2007 9:01 AM MDT
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Not going
by TexSUN on
May 17, 2007 4:44 PM MDT
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Supporting the Spurs has nothing to do with it
You wouldn't be paying the Spurs; you'd be supporting the Suns. Shit, the Spurs already have too much of your money (I'm pretty sure Texas is rather heavily subsidizing their sports arenas).
by DrStrom on
May 18, 2007 6:44 AM MDT
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We saw something amazing
Much to my surprise, the Suns had a different plan. They decided to play their heart out and hold on to a chance of winning despite the odds, and they almost took the W.
It's been my opinion since the playoffs got underway that the only two serious contenders for the championship are Phoenix and San Antonio. They seem to be the best two teams in the Western conference (which pretty much puts them in the top two slots in the NBA).
This series, regardless of the outcome, is likely to be the most evenly matched, most challenging and most entertaining series found in this year's playoffs. I have little doubt that whoever wins this will ultimately walk away with championship rings.
Personally, I'd prefer it be the Suns. It is my hope that the Suns are able to muster up the heart and spirit that they showed this evening on the court, and have enough energy left to draw upon to take the wins on Friday and Sunday. It won't be easy, and it'll take everything they've got.
It's just a little discouraging that in addition to the fact that they are playing a very good team, they are being burdened with so much BS that makes their journey all the more difficult. The Spurs are not playing fair. The NBA seems to be doing everything in their power to reward the underhanded practices of the Spurs and hurt the Suns. And so, despite being close in ability, the Suns are at an unfair disadvantage. If they do manage to take this series, it'll show just how amazing this ball club really is.
Honestly, I couldn't help but to think that if I was some guy way down the bench on reserve, I'd be pleading with the coaching staff to be allowed into the game, just so I could "accidentally" snap Duncan's leg or arm. Sure, give me a T. Eject me from the game. End my career. But at least I'd be bring a more level playing field back to the series. Of course, the Suns would never do that; they're a better group of people than that. And that is, in part, why I love them so much.
by pathighgate on May 17, 2007 2:57 AM MDT 0 recs
It's 2006 all over again
by TexSUN on
May 17, 2007 3:56 AM MDT
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Fast start
by Vash01 on
May 17, 2007 6:53 PM MDT
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Hope so
by TexSUN on
May 17, 2007 7:00 PM MDT
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Game
Can you watch the game at a friend's house or a restaurant/bar something like that? The playoffs are on everywhere. It will be a great game on Fri. I hope you get to see it.
by Vash01 on
May 17, 2007 11:32 PM MDT
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Maybe
by TexSUN on
May 17, 2007 11:54 PM MDT
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For the last time, to all concerned:
http://www.myp2p.eu/NBA.htm
I'm sure our friends in Europe might find this intriguing.
by DrStrom on
May 18, 2007 6:57 AM MDT
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yp..
by Whaat on
May 18, 2007 7:05 AM MDT
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shameful
You can't play those guys now if you haven't played them during the season. I think you will see a different mindset from the coach next year. Someone - maybe Big Jerry - will explain things to him.
But the Suns blew this game. They shot for crap from the 3 pt line. If the shot their normal 40% they win the game. In the first half if they make those shots they are up by 20 at half time and they would have been able to handle the late surge.
This was a very winable game and they blew it. I am more disappointed in the Suns right now then I have been all year...
I have not given up hope however. The Suns certainly can and should win in SA on Friday and can and should win a game 7 at home. If they do, this dirk-job will be forgotten and they will be back on the road to the prize. If not, this game will be the one where we blew our shot.
by Phoenix Stan on May 17, 2007 8:33 AM MDT 0 recs
Don't agree
I don't blame any of the guys playing. They didn't choke. They got tired.
by Dan on
May 17, 2007 9:09 AM MDT
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1st Half
I agree it was a lot to ask but there's no reason for this team to not step up and make those open looks and put the game away when they had a chance.
I agree for the most part, most of them played hard and well. But they had their foot and the throat and didn't stomp down.
The reason I favored the Suns all along w/ b/c of their depth. B/c guys like LB and Bell could go off for 25+ points on a night when Amare wasn't there or was in foul trouble or whatever. Clearly, the Spurs w/o TD or Parker or Manu would have been hosed but that's exactly why the Suns are the better team. Depth.
But they had a chance in the 1st half and blew it. I do give the Spurs credit for making their shots late in the game and for their defense as well. But the Suns blew their chance and they had a big one.
We have seen this team come out blazing (60%+) too many times to think they couldn't or shouldn't have done it in this big game. I don't think you can win a series like that but you can win one game and this was it and it just wasn't there when it needed to be.
by Phoenix Stan on
May 17, 2007 9:21 AM MDT
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Watch Nash's interview
He pretty much confirmed my thoughts...
His clip starts at about 11:50 in
by Phoenix Stan on
May 17, 2007 9:53 AM MDT
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there's also this from Steve
by Dan on
May 17, 2007 10:15 AM MDT
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This is the money quote for me
Nash isn't a guy to make excuses. Hitting 50% in the 1st half would have won this game and there was NO reason that shouldn't have happened. Guys just didn't step up for whatever reason.
At the end of the game I am fine blaming fatigue and generally not having an inside presense. But the 1st half? After getting that great play on defense from everyone they needed to make a few more shots and they didn't. And there's no viable excuse for that. That's a shame and a lost opportunity. So be it.
The Suns will still win this series!
I am looking forward to battling my daughter who is a Utah fan (she's only 9) b/c she was born in Salt Lake. I even made the mistake of taking her to a Suns/Jazz game during the reg season and she cheered for the Jazz!!!! I was so ashamed. I called her a traitor :) We are having fun w/ that and I am looking foward to more of it in the next round.
by Phoenix Stan on
May 17, 2007 10:28 AM MDT
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Optimism
Can the Suns win game 6?- yes
Will they? - No
by Vash01 on
May 17, 2007 10:54 AM MDT
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I hate being wrong
by Phoenix Stan on
May 17, 2007 1:10 PM MDT
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I think you're wrong
I also think the Spurs are going to lose too--in the WCF to the Jazz. That's right, I said it. The Spurs have accumulated way too much bad karma for it not to catch up to them eventually. This will be like the Mavericks last year--they'll beat the Suns in six, but then pull a major choke job against what should be an inferior team. Besides, the Jazz are sitting on their laurels getting rested while this whole mess plays out. Jazz-Detroit in the finals. Maybe Utah finally gets a ring.
by TexSUN on
May 17, 2007 1:22 PM MDT
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Utah
I think Utah CAN beat the Spurs in WCF (if the league calls the game fairly). Howevr, I think they will lose to Detroit in the NBA finals (assuming that Detroit makes it there, past LeBaron et al.). If it's Cleveland representing the eastern conference, I think the western champ will win. It better be Utah and not the dirty Spurs.
by Vash01 on
May 17, 2007 2:14 PM MDT
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Utah has got to be hoping for Suns
Against the Suns the Jazz at least have some size and can play up their athletic and long guys and they have to think we are a softer defensive team.
Either way, the Jazz won't have much of a chance though.
by Phoenix Stan on
May 17, 2007 2:59 PM MDT
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Agree
The Spurs made 3 point shots late in the game. The Suns did not. That was the difference. Bowen's 3 point shot with the game tied at 81 put a lot of pressure on the Suns. Steve did add 2 points but he cannot do everything. The team has to step up and it did not. LB has been the biggest disappointment to me this series. An announcer on the radio said he seems to have reverted to what he was 2 years ago- and what a time to do that!
Fatigue was certainly a factor but they knew what was at stake. HOwever, I am not going to be too harsh on the Suns for this game. The odds against them were so high that the fact they came to within 3 points of tying the game shows the character of this team. They just need to learn how to win close games against top teams. If they miraculously win this series, they will have to do it again against Utah who is playing very well.
by Vash01 on May 17, 2007 9:08 AM MDT 0 recs
Amazing game
The Suns must regroup and win game 6 in SA. This team has come a long way. There is no stopping now.
Go Suns!
by Vash01 on May 17, 2007 9:17 AM MDT 0 recs
I bet it was
The best regular season game I have been at was the loss to the Wizards to break the streak on that day when they had to travel all day to get back from Denver in the snow storm.
by Phoenix Stan on
May 17, 2007 9:25 AM MDT
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Wizards
by Vash01 on
May 17, 2007 10:52 AM MDT
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At least Steve still has his sense of humor
by Dan on May 17, 2007 10:16 AM MDT 0 recs
A different tactic
by TwinnerA on May 17, 2007 10:27 AM MDT 0 recs
No more Burke!
I do think they should have played Jalen Rose at the end of the 3rd qtr and early in the 4th to get Nash about 5 minutes of rest. He's got the playoff experience and has the proven ability at least to step up in big situations.
Before the game I was concerned that the worst outcome would be a close loss where the Suns main guys played a lot of hard minutes and that's what happened.
On the flip side - Amare is TOTALLY rested and can and should play a lot. If he steps up the Suns will win in Game 6.
by Phoenix Stan on
May 17, 2007 10:33 AM MDT
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Nash
by 21Duncan on
May 17, 2007 10:36 AM MDT
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Duncan21
by Vash01 on
May 17, 2007 10:48 AM MDT
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Nash
by TexSUN on
May 17, 2007 11:43 AM MDT
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Nash
Popovich belongs in the Hall of Shame, as one sign read yesterday.
I feel that as long as he has Amare on the team, there is a decent chance of winning a title. When Amare sets a goal he makes it. He is determined to bring a championship to the Suns. If it does not happen this year, it is bound to happen some day. I just hope Nash is still on this team when it happens.
by Vash01 on
May 17, 2007 11:48 AM MDT
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Amare
by TexSUN on
May 17, 2007 12:49 PM MDT
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Team
by Vash01 on
May 17, 2007 2:17 PM MDT
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Yeah...
I thought the Suns really lost momentum when Burke came in the game, and unfortunately, that may have been the main reason they lost. They were well on their way to going up 20, then Burke came in and everything got mucked up. I also agree with you, though, that the heavy minutes are going to take their toll in the next game. I think the Spurs will close them out on Friday because of that reason. However, I don't blame D'Antoni or the team for trying their best to win it all. Even if I knew for a fact ahead of time that the Suns would lose Game 5 and that the fatigue from that effort would also kill their chances of winning Game 6, I still would have wanted them to play the way they did. We always teach our kids to do the very best you can, and live with whatever consequences that brings. The Suns did that last night. It just didn't work out for them, but I'm really proud of them for giving it their best shot.
by TexSUN on
May 17, 2007 10:40 AM MDT
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Burke
by Vash01 on
May 17, 2007 10:49 AM MDT
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one point of disagreement
I was in the arena last night, and it was just amazing.... The Fans did all they could!
I am highly disappointed by Barbosa once again, he started the 2nd half o/4 from the field.. horrible
The Matrix was amazing, so was Crazy Eyes, MVP did great, Raja was awesome defensivly...
by emirem on May 17, 2007 10:42 AM MDT 0 recs
I think you can pretty much bank on....
by saxmanager on May 17, 2007 11:55 AM MDT 0 recs
Warrior fan Believes in the Suns
As a Warriors fan and having witness the magic that blessed us this year, I am cheering for the Suns to beat the evil empire of the Spurs and NBA front office. "We believe" that the Suns will overcome this highway robbery and somehow find a way to beat the monster. Many of us in Warriors land who relish the underdog role in the 1st round vs. Dallas are cheering loud and proud for you guys in the bay area. You guys are now the darlings of the NBA, a martyr to fight against dictator Stern and we hope you guys can TAKE THEM DOWN HARD. DO IT!! DO IT for the kids so they can remember the 07 Suns that fought against all odds to reach success. It'll be a great story to tell for the ages.
one more sidenote, i would rather watch "Sisters of the ScissorsPants (or whatever that movie is called) then to sit watch a Jazz/Spurs series.
THE DUBs got your back, playa!
by NellieBeer on May 17, 2007 11:59 AM MDT 0 recs
Thanks so much!
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May 17, 2007 12:06 PM MDT
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Man, How I wish
I can see a lot of similarities between the Warriors and the Suns, especially in offense. The Spurs is the one team that the Warriors had the most struggle with in the regular season. So i hope the Suns don't make the same mistake as the Ws and get too 3-happy. It killed us in the Jazz series. You guys have a much better inside game than us in Amare so he needs to get the ball more than any other player on the court. It will be fist pumping every time he dunks one over an Elson or an Oberto.
The "Nellie Beer Rule" is great. Instead of bring a beer with him to the press conf., he know gets loaded right BEFORE it which makes for some pretty good press quotes. Just go back to watch his press conf. on the last game of the Jazz series on NBATV, he is visibly drunk and mistakenly address the Jazz as the losing side.
"The more scotch I drink, the better the game plan gets." - Nellie after game 1 of GSW/Dallas
by NellieBeer on
May 17, 2007 12:38 PM MDT
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Warriors fan
by Vash01 on
May 17, 2007 2:21 PM MDT
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Cuban
by TwinnerA on May 17, 2007 12:11 PM MDT 0 recs
Cuban
by Vash01 on
May 17, 2007 2:20 PM MDT
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I'm not.
by TexSUN on
May 17, 2007 2:28 PM MDT
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I think his reason is twofold
- He likes to be different and just agreeing with what everyone else is saying wouldn't be different.
- He knows if the Suns had a full team they would have beat the Spurs and won a ring and he doesn't want to see Steve win a ring.
I wouldn't put too much into what he says on his blog...it's just Cuban being Cuban...
by Dan on
May 17, 2007 2:27 PM MDT
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If you want to read the blog
by Dan on
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Good point about Terry
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on cuban
by jasonsuns1 on
May 18, 2007 4:13 AM MDT
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SUNS FANS ARE LAME
by sunsfansrdelusional1 on May 17, 2007 10:15 PM MDT 0 recs
unfair
I mean, there are posts here by Spurs fans, that are written by morons. By the way english is not my native language so coming from me, that means something i guess.
by Whaat on
May 17, 2007 11:44 PM MDT
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I 8 A SLIM JIM
YEAH WE ALL NO TIM DUNCEN IS THE BEST BBALL PLAYER EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Y CANT THIS GRP GIT IT? STODYWINER IS SO LAIM NOT LEET LIKE TD!
HEY GUY YOU WANNA BE BFF ON HERE? IM NOT TEH GAY OR ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
by DrStrom on
May 18, 2007 7:17 AM MDT
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Wow
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May 18, 2007 7:33 AM MDT
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pssst...
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