Spurs take game 1; Suns lose homecourt advantage
by Dan @ Bright Side Of The Sun on May 6, 2007 4:31 PM MDT
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PrintI don't care who you are - a Suns fan, a Spurs fan or just a basketball fan - that game was a lot of fun to watch. This was one of the most fun games I have watched this season. Both teams were absolutely awesome and did everything they could to win the game.
You can obviously tell that the players on each team really respect each other. Steve Nash and Tony Parker bumped heads late in the 4th quarter and they were both checking on each other more than they were worried about themselves.
Steve Nash couldn't stop bleeding and they had to take him out for a possession. That was what killed the Suns. Maybe they still wouldn't have won the ballgame with Nash in the game but it sure would have helped. You could see the trainer's hands shaking as he was trying to work as fast as possible to get Nash back in the game.
I came to really respect the Spurs this game. They and the Suns are both class organizations, both have really classy players on the team and both teams are absolutely awesome. Tim Duncan is unstoppable. He knows how to play the game and when to take his shots.
The refs did a really good job during the game. The had one really bad call and one semi-bad call. The away-from-the-ball call they made at the end of the game was just terrible. They had been making no-calls all day and they decide that at the end of the game they should make that call? Just stupid. And the semi-bad call they made was at the end of the half when they called a foul on Amare Stoudemire that should have been a no call. The Suns were on a fast break and could have gone up by 8 points but instead the Spurs scored and the Suns were only up by 4. On the other hand, the refs were very lenient in letting Steve Nash play while he had blood running down his face. They only made him leave when it was obvious that the bleeding wasn't going to stop.
But the refs didn't change the outcome of the game (despite calling a stupid technical foul call on Iavaroni during halftime. The difference in the game? Offensive and defensive rebounds. The Spurs had 8 more offensive rebounds than the Suns (most of those in one possession) and they had 16 more rebounds overall.
The bothersome part is the Spurs won 3 of the 4 quarters. Tim Duncan and Tony Parker both scored 32 points. Michael Finley added another 19. Duncan also had 16 rebounds - 8 of them offensive.
On the Suns side, they caused 15 Spurs turnovers. Against the Spurs, that's pretty awesome. The Suns also had 5 blocks to the Spurs 6.
The Suns still aren't shooting well against the Spurs but I'm beginning to realize that it isn't that the Suns aren't just missing shots but that the Spurs are causing them to miss shots. Steve Nash had 31 points but only 8 assists. Amare Stoudemire only shot 6-19 and had 20 points. The Suns also shot less 3-point shots than the Spurs (14 to the Spurs 16).
Overall, I think the Suns played ok. They just had some bad breaks at the end that caused them to not really have a chance. But I won't say that the Suns lost the game. The Spurs won it. That's the best compliment I can give to them.
The Spurs are an awesome team. If the Suns are going to come back and win at least one in San Antonio they are going to have to play a nearly perfect game. But the Suns can do it. We've seen it before. I'm definitely not ready to concede the series yet. With a healthy Steve Nash at the end of the game and maybe another 4-5 rebounds, who knows what would have happened? Plus, the Spurs lost the first game in their series with Denver and then won 4 in a row. I don't think the Suns will win 4 in a row against the Spurs but it's definitely not a lost cause yet. But I will admit the rest of the way is going to be an uphill battle and the Suns are going to have to work very, very hard to get there. I do think the Suns can pull out the win in game two on Tuesday - as long as Steve Nash can come back and play in that game.
What are your thoughts on this game?
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The Gauntlet Has Been Thrown
After watching this game i'm convinced this series will be a battle of epic proportions. And after watching this game i'm also convinced that we can win this series. We came into the game a bit tenative and ended it pretty strong. After a few adjustments we can beat these Spurs and we will. Remember gentlement the Suns fight very very well when they are down. The cornered beast is most deadly indeed, the Spurs shall discover this fact very very soon.
Hope is still very much there boys, it's just gonna be an uphill battle from now on. Look for some epic basketball, perhaps the best you'll ever see.
yep
Not to live in the past, but the Suns miss the offensive power that is Joe Johnson. I know, we offered him a great deal, he just wanted to go to atlanta, I'd like to think Barbosa fills those shoes, ...
Really liked the 2 pass offs to Marion there late in the game, I think Nash and Marion should be doing a lot more of that.
Great Game - tough loss
I still like our chances. The suns were able to push the tempo and scored well even though they missed open shots.
What else can you say about Nash.
This is going to be fun.
even though.....
phxsuns.net jumping ship!!!!
Have hope my fellow fans nothing is over yet. The Suns wont go quietly, and I think that they wont fall at all.
Well said Gunz
Phxsuns.net fans
This was our game to win...
Great defense by the Spurs but in my opinion this was about as great as they can play. Did Parker even miss a shot in the first half? Maybe one. The Suns still have another level to go to. A few more boards, a few more finishes by Amare, more picks and slashing throughout to give Nash some options and we could have taken this game.
This will be an incredibly competitive series but I wouldn't be surprised if the Suns win the next game by 15-20 points.
So close
Dan
by Key on May 6, 2007 5:18 PM MDT reply actions
Key/Not demeaning
I just thought Dan's post was a little bit overly optimistic. As a pessimist, I shudder when someone predicts a victory for my team. I am afraid it would jinx them and today it certainly did. However, not all of Suns's losses were due to a jinx.
This is, afterall a Suns blog. It would be ridiculous to expect us posting that the Suns are weak, or that they just cannot beat the Spurs, etc. I have seen the Spurs blog and they were laughing at the Suns' defense (or lack of). They were obviously wrong because the Suns have won many games this season by defensively stopping the other team when it counted.
I am not going to write how great the Spurs are and how they cannot possibly lose a series.
The series has just begun. We can wait and see. If the Suns lose it, it proves nothing more than that we still need to improve in some areas. I think every team should say that, even the champions. See what happened to Miami this year.
by Vash01 @ Bright Side Of The Sun on May 6, 2007 7:10 PM MDT up reply actions
I am the only one who disagrees
That call changed the momentum and the complexion of the whole game. SA played much stronger in the 3rd Q; the Suns lost the edge, but not completely. They kept fighting back.
However..............
The last call on LB- what were the refs thinking? It was one of the worst calls - with the game on the line- made it impossible for the Suns to come back.
I am not saying the Suns would have definitely won minus that call, but it pretty much took them out of the game because it gave SA a 4 point lead. I hate it when refs want to make a certain team win (like the Mavs in game 5 against the Warriors).
I thought both teams played well. However,....
1.The Suns cannot let any team outrebound them, least of all the Spurs. At one point, the Spurs got 4 or 5 rebounds on just one possession. That was pathetic.
2.I don't understand Dantoni's reluctance to use a strong rebounder like KT more. I am not saying he should start, but it makes no sense to give him 12 minutes while the non-productive Diaw gets 25! This was actually one of the better games for Diaw in terms of scoring (7 points instead of 0 or 2). He was not grabbing any rebounds, so how much is it going to hurt to put KT in? More rebounds means more scoring opportunities for the Suns. They had a pathetic 5 offensive rebounds to the Spurs 13 late in the 4th Q.
3.FT is a strength for the Suns. It made no sense for them to miss so many FT's today. LB, STAT, Shawn all missed golden opportunities at the charity stripes. Had they made those, the Suns would have been leading by a couple of points at the end.
4. I did not see how Nash's injury occurred. I did not see the blood either; I was at the other end of the court, and was without my binoculars today. I did see the white bandage on his nose and I was quite concerned. I would like to know which Spurs player hit him and why that player was not ejected from the game, or at least received a T.
5.Tony Parker was unstoppable. The Suns have to do a better job on him, or he is going to kill them in every game. Duncan was unstoppable in the second half; he even made the FT's. Those two kept the Spurs in the game (Parker in the 1st half; Duncan in the second).
This is a game the Suns could have and should have won. They have lost the home court advantage- something that they really wanted. I don't feel very good about this series at all. The Suns are in a danger of losing both games at home, and possibly being swept by the Spurs (if that makes you all mad, so be it). The Suns are not going to beat the Spurs playing the way they did today.
The only bright spots:
1.Steve Nash- he absolutely the MVP. His assists number was low (8) and that was a concern, but SA was closing the gaps very well. He scored on his own, since he could not make those amazing passes. He did not miss a single FT.
2.The Spurs had twice as many TO's as the Suns. That made up for at least some of the disadvantage in rebounding.
by Vash01 @ Bright Side Of The Sun on May 6, 2007 6:25 PM MDT reply actions
T's
by Vash01 @ Bright Side Of The Sun on May 6, 2007 6:43 PM MDT reply actions
Technical
As for your earlier post, thought Nash played well, agree fully with K.Thomas should be getting more time and Diaw less. On the Nash injury, Parker made a steal and Nash tried to steal it back. Nash reached in trying to make the steal, Tony leaned forward and they hit heads. T.Parker's forehead hit Nash's nose. It wasn't deserving of a flagrant or anything. just tough play and really bad luck for Nash to have to miss parts at the end, when we count on his decisions the most in close games.
I saw the Spurs were making a lot of shots, and the Suns weren't at the end, and we still had a chance in the last minute. This tells me if we shoot like we can, we should win. Nash was right in what he said in the after game interview, some of the Suns players just didn't want this game as badly as they should have. Hopefully this game motivates those few players Nash was referring to,
to play harder. Amare can't shoot 31% from the field if we're going to win! He started off great on Duncan, but I think that third foul really hurt us and him.
Some players
That has been the problem for the Suns this whole season. Some players on this team are just not as motivated. I am sure Nash did not want to name them in public, but I hope he and Dantoni address this in their team meeting.
I find it sickening that playing in the second round of the playoffs, against the Mighty Spurs some guys cannot feel motivated. I would put Marion and Diaw in that bracket.
Diaw moves slow as molasses. Why is he still playing so many minutes? Thomas at least grabs the rebounds and he is a pretty decent mid range shooter.
Why is Jones starting if he cannot do anything? The Suns desperately need a FIFTH man- I think this has to be top priority during the off season, which could begin very soon unless the Suns players (the unmotivated ones) shape up quickly.
P.S. Thanks for explaining what happened to Nash's nose. I was shocked when I saw him get back on the court with a white bandage (I guess the blood had stopped by then). It was most infortunate. The injuries to key players still seem to chase the Suns during the playoffs. I am not saying we would have won if Nash was not injured, but he is THE clutch player in this league.
by Vash01 @ Bright Side Of The Sun on May 6, 2007 7:46 PM MDT reply actions
yep
During the nba interview after the game, the reporter said (with Nash there) that the cut on the nose took 6 stitches, and Nash, ever the comedian (but hides it from the media well) said it was 17 without a second going by. All the reporters were laughing at his wit and charm. You could tell he was trying to cheer himself up, after today's game. I especially liked the Sun's coach interview on nba.com, craig seger (spelling?) asked about the bad calls, it was like entrapment, loved Dantoni's response. What are you trying to do, get me fined! There's more, pretty funny. If only every player thought this was their last season in the nba, their one shot at winning it all, that's the type of desperation and strength they need to play with. Nash plays that way all the time. STAT was on his was toward a great game but got off track with the 3rd foul.
Here's my bottom line, we shot poorly during the 4th quarter, and the Spurs shot very well, and we still almost beat them. If the Suns can shoot their normal percentage, you have to like our chances for the rest of the series.
Don't know what to say...
It's the confidence
OTOH, wouldn't it be nice to give the Spurs a taste of their own medicine? Let them win the first game, then make adjustments and win every game after that.
by Vash01 @ Bright Side Of The Sun on May 6, 2007 10:49 PM MDT reply actions
good point on confidnce
important stat of 4th quarter
"Leandro Barbosa and Amaré Stoudemire made 2 for 13 shots in the fourth quarter. The other Suns were 9 of 11"
Wow, that really explains why we faded at the end. Even with that poor shooting, we still had a chance.
That was one thing about Barbosa vs. Nash (if he was out there at the end). Barbosa, (believe me, I love that guy, he's great for us, but..) just tried one on one ball, where Nash would've dribbled and created an opening. Tough time for Nash to be out.
Even on Spurs pounding the rock, they felt the nba should create a 5 minute injury rule to stitch someone up, especially for playoffs! Does anyone question this fact, as people get older, their eyes tend to get worse. Then why do we have 60 and 70 yr old refs? And I heard some comment that all other sports have ref issues also, doesn't the nfl have instant replay for refs to look at on important calls at the end of games, etc. Seriously, there have just been too many blown calls, the nba even had a ref flip out and ask Tim Duncan if he wanted to fight recently. A ref who was already kicked out of the nba before for breaking the law, but silly stern re-instated him (Joe Crawford). I love the nba, but Stern is going to look very, very unintelligent once they get someone in there who actually does something to prevent this b.s. What's the deal with Stern anyways, is he going to be commissioner until he dies, how can we get someone in there who actually does something good for the league! I mean come on, trying to change the basketball, but, just like the players that must keep quiet, even when wronged, I also will keep quiet, mostly...
Also, this is my current view of the series
NOTHING IS OVER, NOTHING!! WE CAN STILL WIN!!...(Adrian...she wakes up from coma, Rocky, WIN!!! WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR!!"
also
important stat of 4th quarter
Suns, just do what you do. It's the playoffs, but you still have to play your game and take your 'normal' shots.
by filbert on May 7, 2007 5:37 PM MDT up reply actions
We Believe
May be we need to carry 'We Believe' signs to the games. Against the Spurs, these Suns players and their coach do not seem to believe in themselves. Don Nelson did a heck of a job convincing his #8 team that the can actually BEAT the 67 win-Mavs, in a 7-game series.
by Vash01 @ Bright Side Of The Sun on May 7, 2007 8:09 AM MDT reply actions
Parker, KT and the Zebra's
- Parker was ON FIRE and that was the reason they won. When he is hitting open J's then he is unstoppable. But, there's no reason to think that he will continue to play that well. Its just not possible.
- Same can be said to a less degree w Duncan. He hit amazing shots when he was well defended. He won't shoot that well every night.
- The only call that I thought really mattered was the foul on Stat at the end of the half. That was a HORRIBLE call. But, I was watching on Tivo and stopped and replayed a few calls and there were several that went our way too. I don't think you can blame this on the ref's.
- Marion and Diaw had poor rebounded nights b/c of their defensive assignments. I am going to watch the game again closely, but the Spurs do a LOT of things very intentionally to take Shawn away from the basket. Its a match up problem on that end for us.
- Offensively, we played well enough to win and didn't play nearly as well as we could have.
- The only change I would make is to play KT more. Stat and KT both proved they can play Timmy 1:1 and KT is hitting open J's again so he's not the liability on the other end.
Its all good. Can't wait for Game 2. I will be there and the place should be electric!!!
Parker, KT and the Zebra's
If you come up with any more on the defensive assignment thing, be sure and post that.
I am tired of people, who either don't pay attention or don't know the potential dynamics of match-ups, trying to bag on anyone, especially the birthday boy.
I would really like to understand how Boris could only get 2 boards in 25 minutes. Was his guy on the perimeter the whole night?
by filbert on May 7, 2007 5:43 PM MDT up reply actions
SA WHINING
by bobg on May 7, 2007 10:38 AM MDT reply actions
Know what I'm tired of?
Here's the deal...
It's just a fact in NBA basketball that there is a level of official manipulation that teams and coaches and players seem to engage in... and with multiples of millions of dollars being put into each game, it makes sense to get every advantage a team can. Nobody's making excuses here, just pointing it out.
Yes, EVERY team complains about calls... everybody gets that, it's obvious. But what the Spurs do takes complaining to another level. As "bobg" up there mentioned, it's more of an orchestrated, psychological, constant, whining game THAT WORKS in the Spurs favor, it's an art form... and that's why everyone hates them!!!! Their relentless prodding at the refs "seems" to work in their favor.
I'm not blaming this loss on the refs, no way.
This was the Suns game to win and they had plenty of chances to man up and take it over. But when we sit here and review games, in retrospect sometimes the outcome of the game can come down to a few ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE calls. D'Antoni mentioned how the "complexion" of the game was shifted because of those calls. Why can Duncan pull players to the floor and get the benefit of the doubt, why can Parker (as Dr Strom said...) tangle up Barbosa then dive into the stands, and they get the calls at very very pivotal times in games? These aren't one time coincidences.
No, there's no conspiracy and nobody's out to get the Suns. Of course not. But any long time basketball fan will agree that the Spurs and their methodical, over acted, organized whine fest has a result on the refs and the outcome of the game and it's a bit much and tiring to watch.
The Suns lost that game because they did a hell of a lot of things wrong. But the bad calls were a major factor when the momentum was changing and the Suns were in fact taking charge.
I'd like to see the Suns win by 10-20 every game. Just dominate it for 48 minutes. But if they can't then a lot of plays are going to be determined by the referees. Let's hope they can learn to play the "game" because we don't need D'Antoni over there furious for the entire second half because a potential 10 point lead has completely disappeared... and some would say it was all because of one bad call.
Let's not forget...
by Seth Pollack on May 7, 2007 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions
I'd hope so...
But I will say... I'll take Horry drilling a three for a win over the ref giving the Spurs a free throw and the ball back and day. The refs did play an important part in key moments of that loss, like it or not... let's hope the Suns play well enough the next game so that a few bad calls are meaningless.
Get over it people...
by Key on May 8, 2007 2:05 AM MDT up reply actions
Great comment...
" I don't like complaining about calls"
"The Spurs were victims of some absolutely terrible calls in games 3 & 4, and Manu committed that key foul at the end of game 7. The series was so close that one bad whistle or one bad play could and did make the difference."
Is that not exactly what happened in game 1 of this series? Unfortunately we were hit with a few VERY bad calls and in retrospect, it did make the difference. Seriously, I am so absolutely sick of whiney Spurs and their hypocritical, whiney fans. Go find a Spurs blog.
Calm down, Travis...
My quotation about the Spurs-Mavs series from last year was in response to someone claiming that the Spurs aren't as good as the Suns b/c they aren't as good as two years ago and b/c they lost to the Mavs last year. I was simply saying that the Spurs-Mavs series was so razor-close that one call or one play made the difference. As good as the Spurs-Suns series will be, I highly doubt that it will be that razor-close. One game [especially when it's only the first game] does not a series make.
Yet after one game, you seem to be the biggest whiner on here. You'd be a lot better off if you had an attitude similar to TexSUN. Or if you'd learn to respond to people's posts [even if you disagree with them] with respect, as does vash01. Or, you can continue to whine and even make fun of people's monickers.
Since you seem to like to pull up people's quotations, I won't pull up one of your whiney ones, but rather your prediction for this series and who will reach the WCF. We'll see how this plays out...
"This is the best Suns team in history and we should win it all this year. I think this is the year that the Suns can dictate any game versus the Spurs and the Spurs will have some very serious problems keeping up.
I cannot wait to see a Suns/ Warriors Conference Finals!!!!" "Travis"
by Key on May 8, 2007 7:33 AM MDT up reply actions
Key
BTW thanks for the compliment.
I strongly disagree with you that the Suns-Spurs series will not be razor-thin close the way the Mavericks-Spurs was. I certainly hope you are right- that is, the Suns would win the series by a BIG margin, unlike the Mavs from last year. This is a hope, not a prediction, so don't get bent out of shape over that statement.
The truth is the Suns-Spurs games have been very close at least this season, except for the one that the Spurs lost here in Phoenix (the Spurs were exhausted after a game against Denver the evening before). Game 1 does not define a series, as you said, so let us see which team is better. They both are great teams and there is no need for anyone to put the other one down.
I do agree somewhat about the whining though. The Spurs question almost every call against them and that borders on whining. When a Suns player questions a call (actually depending on who it is) he gets a technical. There is a disparity in the officiating right now. The Spurs deserve respect as a team that won 3 championships, but every game needs to be treated as a new game and not as an extension of the Spurs championship run. There are a few whiners on the Suns side, and they get penalized for doing that.
I am hoping that over the series the good/bad calls will even out. However, when one feels that one's team was the victim of some key bad calls,- as the Spurs fans do about last year's series- it is natural for the fans to want to complain about it, and what better place to do it than on the team's blog?
Finally, I have to say this- from the time you appeared on this board, I had a feeling that you had a condescending attitude toward our team. I don't agree with the Suns fans who think that the Spurs have grown old or that they played their best game on Sun. The Spurs raise the level of their game and any member of their team can contribute when needed. That is why they are the champions and I wish the Suns of this year would emulate that. The Suns of last year had that ability; they just did not have enough players. This year we have more players that are healthy, and we have an inside game. That is why this year our expectations are higher for our team. That is not something to ridicule, as I perceive from your posts.
Remember this is a Suns blog so you are going to read some glowing compliments to, and great expectations for the Suns.
by Vash01 @ Bright Side Of The Sun on May 8, 2007 8:55 AM MDT up reply actions
Vash01
You mentioned that you feel that I've had a condescending attitude toward the Suns - any evidence of that? I think that I've been quite respectful of the Suns in what I've written. Are you sure that you don't feel that way simply b/c you're a Suns fan and I'm a Spurs fan?
Concerning the whining issue, I thought that it was interesting what Fox Sports' Charley Rosen had to say: "The Suns will deny it, but [since halftime when Iavaroni got the T] the home team got the benefit of virtually every marginal call for the duration."
by Key on May 8, 2007 10:10 AM MDT up reply actions
Key
First, calls can go both ways in a game, actually in majority of the games. I think someone on this blog (it may have been srp) had reviewed tapes of the game and posted which fouls seemed OK, questionable, and horrible.
I think what people are questioning is the timing of the call. It was the timing of the bad calls that killed the Suns. There is no guarantee that they would have won the game minus those calls, but they would have had an opportunity (Amare's 2nd & particularly 3rd foul and LB's last foul are what I am referring to).
Second, there is no rule that on a blog people must show respect to each other. I try to because that's what I believe in, but others don't have to. If you are reading some of the other blogs, you may find that this blog has some of the most respectful people who shy away from name calling, using bad words, bashing another team, etc. They are mostly focused on the game. We had one troll who left almost immediately when he/she was discovered. I know that you are not a troll.
Third, about the condescending thing- it is more of a perception and I had put it in the back of my mind, as just that. It was not a heavy one- Suns stink type- but I felt that you had no respect for the Suns. You can have your favorite team and yet respect another team.
I chose not to bring this out until now. I knew that something about your posts was bothering me a bit.
Now that you have challenged me to show you the proof, I had to look for specifics beyond a mere perception.
I don't see you posting positives about the Suns, even though this is a Suns blog. There are positives about both teams, and we do point out the positives about the Spurs even when we have a series going on against them (and we don't shy away from pointing out the negatives- LOL) . I have not seen you posting anything respectful about the Suns. You are basically here to tell us how great your team is, how your team is going to beat our team, how we have no chance at all against the Spurs. I think a better place for that is the Spurs blog. I am not saying you should not post here. Please do post, but you also have to remember who the readers are, and how they are likely to respond to those kinds of posts.
If you really despise the Suns, I think you may be at the wrong place. We don't despise the Spurs.
BTW, when there was a series going on between the Mavs and the Warriors I did not like it when fans of one team would go to the other team's blog and brag about their own team or post negatives about the other team. So I am not singling you out. To me, that is disrespectful, but as I said, on blogs there no rule about respect. They are just blogs. We just try to talk about the game and of course we love our Suns.
by Vash01 @ Bright Side Of The Sun on May 8, 2007 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions
Bad calls
The 1st was a moving screen Amare set and Bowen ran through. This could EASILY have been a call against Amare and instead was called against Bowen. Tough call but we got the benefit of the doubt.
The 2nd was a blocking call on Horry that easily could have been a charge on Amare. This was a LOT like the call that went against Jones in the 1st quarter. In both instances the offensive player could have been called for a charge and in both cases the defender was called for the blocking charge. Again though, in this case Amare got the benefit of the iffy call.
We also got to the line a TON more time in the 1st part of the 3rd qtr.
This is way I hate to blame games on ref's. They make bad calls and I hate when the impact the game like everyone else. But this is a HARD game to ref. Things happen SO fast. Even in slo-mo its often hard to tell how to make the call...
by Seth Pollack on May 8, 2007 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions
Vash01
2] You're right, there is no rule that on a blog people must show respect to each other. But like you, I believe in it and try to encourage others to do the same. You're also right about this blog - I've been most impressed with how people here engage with each other [although I must admit some of the offerings below give me pause], their general b-ball knowledge, how they respect other teams, etc. It's much 'cleaner' than what we have at PtR. But especially after reading Travis's latest offerings, I would say that he is really hurting the blog's positive testimony. Talk about condescending...
3] Some positives that I posted about the Suns:
"I'll grant you that the Suns are better than two years ago [Barbosa being a real difference-maker]..."
"Yet they [the Spurs] also greatly respect the Suns. Concerning alta's comments, no matter what some Spurs fans might say, the Spurs themselves know that the Suns play better defense and are mentally tougher than two years ago."
You be the judge. Also, when did I ever say or even imply that the Suns have no chance at all against the Spurs? I certainly don't despise the Suns - they're actually one of my favorite teams.
by Key on May 8, 2007 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions
Are you still here?
Did you seriously just tell me to respond to people with respect? Is that what you're doing? From critiquing Dan's posts to telling people to get over losses to your team! I make a very valid argument about the horrible calls that impacted our first loss of the series and you jump on here and tell people to "get over it". Unfortunately for me, I'm failing to learn anything from that opposing viewpoint. Surely you can round up another friend who can form a decent opinion.
Do you see that large Bright Side of The Sun logo up there? This isn't a Spurs blog. Let me help you figure this one out... you move your mouse (that's the thing you're holding) over this next bit and you click on it: http://www.poundingtherock.com/
You'll be happy to find over there, many many other basketball fans who share your opinions. In fact, I enjoy reading their opinions! They're very content discussing games from their perspective and forming their own opinions.... any reason why you are so intimated by that and would rather troll around over here? Unlike Vash, I'm not so inclined to respond politely to a Spurs fan who chooses to roam this blog and inject his critiques of peoples posts and share excuses about past Spurs losses.
Are you still reading this? Let me help... http://www.poundingtherock.com/
Just thought I'd show him the door
That comment...
by Key on May 8, 2007 11:49 AM MDT up reply actions
Sorry, but...
That's the kind of thing the Mavs/Lakers trolls on AZCentral would say, and one of the things I like about this board is that it is not AZCentral-like. Open discussion from all points of view is more than welcome. But speaking to a fellow adult like they're three years old is troll behavior, pure and simple. (And this is the last time you'll succeed in baiting me into a response, btw, so enjoy it while it lasts).
Not to bait you, TexSUN,
"Seriously, I am so absolutely sick of whiney Spurs and their hypocritical, whiney fans. Go find a Spurs blog."
Now who is "speaking to a fellow adult like they're three years old?" Think about it.
by Key on May 8, 2007 12:26 PM MDT up reply actions
Hey you baited me...
If you'd like to offer insightful, non-hypocritical comments and opinions, be my guest. I certainly can't stop you. We have nothing but respect for the opposing fans who bring another fresh perspective to the board.
But when you're a guest in this house wearing your Spurs jersey and waving the big foam finger in my face, you can expect a quick and very non-polite response. As an outsider you might want to be careful who you antagonize.
If you intend to troll around this blog looking for comments to critique and telling Suns fans to "get over it people" after a big loss in an extremely close game then "please" spend your time elsewhere. I trust that was gentlemanly enough for you.
Since you were baited...
Btw, the "get over it" comment was in reference to complaining about the officiating - it was never intended to be a reference to the fact that the Suns lost the game.
In what way have I "waved the big foam finger in your face?"
by Key on May 8, 2007 3:17 PM MDT up reply actions
jumping in for a quick comment
As to your back and forth with Travis (I think it was) I stopped reading after the second or third comment that had nothing to do with basketball.
Good luck to you tonight
No Jason,
Btw, sorry about the arrogant comments by a couple of Spurs fans on the latest thread.
Good luck to your team as well.
by Key on May 8, 2007 4:23 PM MDT up reply actions
AAAAHHHHHHH
I'm going to go jump off a cliff now
... well, maybe after the game.
Travis
I am afraid TexSun was right all along.
If Key has some basketball to discuss, I am all for it. Otherwise it is a waste of time to read his/her posts.
by Vash01 @ Bright Side Of The Sun on May 8, 2007 4:39 PM MDT up reply actions
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fun link, there's 10-15 others, just look.
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Found this by accident, was looking for David Blaine and nba adds.
another when he's older..
this is the first, there are 5 other episodes, couldn't believe rims were 10 feet at first, but they are
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Adjustments for game 2...
-Rebound (somehow we boxed out a bit more on Feb 1)
-Defend the 3
-Start someone different, and make it a big man.
25 min and 2 boards from Diaw? That's disgusting. Someone twho knows french, please translate that.
Let's get it done Suns!
by filbert on May 7, 2007 5:31 PM MDT reply actions
Translation
C'est repugnant!! I agree, I used to like Boris, but he has been a huge disappointment this season. He should probably give his MIP award back.
Maybe he wants it again next year?
my thought, exactly
I was going to reply with something very similar to what you posted- LOL! Great minds think alike, don't they?
I was going to say that if he is bad enough this year, he could win it again next year.
There was a talk on my car radio today that said that Boris will be traded after this season to move up from (e.g.) 6th to 3rd, or .....spot.
by Vash01 @ Bright Side Of The Sun on May 8, 2007 12:04 AM MDT up reply actions
Boris
I'm definitely hoping Boris steps it up and gets his numbers up.
Coaches
by Vash01 @ Bright Side Of The Sun on May 8, 2007 8:56 AM MDT reply actions
Boris
Couldn't agree more.
Good article
I believe the players Nash may have been talking about are- 1)Marion (that's pretty obvious; he was not the Matrix we have seen in SOME games), 2)James Jones- no points and no rebounds.
I think Diaw may be permanently on that list this season, so no special mention would be required.
What disappoints me about Marion is his lack of consistency. One out of four games (I may be wrong in the percentage) he does not perform well. Against weaker teams the Suns can get away with it, but against the Spurs every player on the team has to give TOP effort. These are the playoffs- the end of the season is around the corner. It is inexplicable that some players are unable to give the effort. If they give their best, we can live with a loss and even a season ending, like we did last year.
by Vash01 @ Bright Side Of The Sun on May 8, 2007 9:32 AM MDT reply actions
True statement, but...
team
by Vash01 @ Bright Side Of The Sun on May 8, 2007 9:59 AM MDT reply actions
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