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Yi Part II and Other Boredom-Relieving Blather

How boring is it when CNNSI has to resort to recycling a story from five days ago under the headline "Blockbuster Deal in the Works?"? I saw that headline and thought "oh goody, something is finally happening!", only to find out they merely relabeled this article from last week. So unless you want to read about how Michael Jordan is trying to save his career, there's nothing to see. Next, I trotted over to ESPN.com where there's an Insider Free Preview of John Hollinger's thoughts about which teams improved the most during the off-season. He has the Suns listed at #3. He thinks that Grant Hill "should thrive in Phoenix's running game and take over Boris Diaw's role as the de facto point man when Steve Nash is out of the game". He also thinks that Hill might be our final missing piece for a championship. Charley Rosen at MSN, on the other hand, begs to differ. He feels "there's no way that Hill's oft-injured, 35-year-old legs can keep up with Steve Nash and Co", and points out that three-point shooting isn't exactly Hill's strong point, and neither is defense. Always a glass-half-empty kind of guy I guess. Of course, he said all that three days ago, but this is the first time I've been bored enough to actually click on the article and read it.

So it seems like the most exciting thing going on right now in the NBA is still the on-going Yi Jianlian drama. A few people have pointed out that the decision to play for the Bucks probably isn't really Yi's to make. As a Chinese citizen, his first, last, and everything-in-between duty is to his national team, apparently even above family, presuming they have the same attitude about him that they seem to have about Yao Ming. I suppose when one lives in a place where being a little late for training camp in order to get married means a public lashing in the media, it's probably not a shock that Yi hasn't been rushing to openly defy his agent and country by signing with the team who drafted him. I suspect that even if Yi had dreamed of playing for the Milwaukee Bucks his entire life we might still be in this mess. It is what it is, and if I came off as too overly hard on Yi the individual in my post yesterday, I didn't mean to. My soapbox is pointed squarely at whoever is responsible for deciding that just because this team isn't at the top of the "glamour-factor" scale, that Yi should squander the privilege of getting paid millions of dollars in guaranteed money to play the game he loves. I don't buy for a minute that this is about playing time, but if it is, well, the way you get playing time in this league is to work hard and play well to earn it. Steve Nash had to do it, Raja Bell had to do it, Leandro Barbosa had to do it, and so on. And all of them entered the league with less of an opportunity to make an immediate impact than Yi has now in Milwaukee. Ask Ron Hale, Otis George, or any of the other guys on the Suns' summer league team if they'd like to go there to play for three years. I bet any one of them would jump on it in a second--even without the guaranteed millions. Sadly, the biggest loser in this whole mess could turn out to be Yi himself, and that's a shame.

In other news, former Sun Stephon Marbury is planning to head to Italy when his current deal is through. "I'm not just thinking of doing it, I'm going to do it", he's quoted as saying. Apparently, his inspiration for the idea came from David Beckham, not Mike D'Antoni. Marbury has much more to say to say on the subject in his blog.

Last but not least, our very own SueB will be attending Steve Nash's annual charity game in Vancouver this Saturday. We expect a full report from her when she gets back. In the meantime, check out this article about Nash SueB found and posted in the comments of her previous entry. Finally, don't forget to pinch hit (or is that pinch vote?) for her in ESPN's Who's Now poll where Steve faces off against LaDainian Tomlinson in the second round. Since Sue can't be there to vote for Nash herself, she's asking us to do it for her.

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John Hollinger's thoughts
I ususally like Hollinger and I love his stat's magic b/c I am a numbers kind of guy.

But I think he made up this list while driving to work w/ his cell in one hand and coffee in the other. How on earth doesn't the Blazers or the Sonics make a list of top 15 improved teams?

The Blazers should be on the top of that list and I was expecting the intro to the article to be something like...beyond the Blazers who are the top blah blah blah...

I am just not following this list at all. Oh, and while I am so far ok w/ the Suns off season and I LOVE the Hill signing I can't see how the Suns go from 4 bigs - Amare, KT, Burke and Marks and are now down one big slow Irishman and that can be called top 3 improvement?

There seems to be so many big guys out there that could at least be a backup/practice player but no. The Suns so far have gotten smaller and thinner at Center. The Sac Kings had 7 - SEVEN - Centers on their summer league team but the Suns can't find on 7ft'er to make the roster?

by Phoenix Stan on Jul 18, 2007 8:28 PM MDT   0 recs

Addition by subtraction, my friend
Most of the time when Burke played, he seemed to hurt the team more than help (see Game 5 against the Spurs). I realize that a sizable part of this of this could be because Mike D'Antoni didn't play him enough during the regular season for him to be comfortable, but that doesn't change what is. Burke wouldn't have played, so no point in paying him. Now as to why they felt it necessary to sign Sean Marks instead of someone who might actually get on the floor every once in a while, you got me.

by TexSUN on Jul 18, 2007 8:57 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm pretty sure they see Marks...
...as a good locker-room guy, and good practice guy. They really value that sort of thing on this team, those 'intangibles.'

by NativeArizonan on Jul 18, 2007 9:06 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

You're probably right
I'm sure that's why. And I wouldn't object to the idea really, except like srp says, we're kind of thin at the center position if either KT or Amare gets injured. I would like to have seen them hold off on the Marks signing for a bit to see if someone might become available in a Grant Hill kind of way, or an unexpected prospect might be uncovered in the summer leagues. Ah well.. Maybe with Burke gone we'll find out Marks can actually play. He may not really be that terrible of a player, maybe he just never got an opportunity to show what he can do.

by TexSUN on Jul 18, 2007 9:12 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Just too thin
Even if Mark "steps up" into Burkes role this an area of needed improvement. KT is a nice player but he's only 6'9". There are too many big guys in the West that can shoot over him ala Duncan and he's really too slow to run the floor.

The Suns need to get a big guy - at least as big as Amare that's athletic, can run the floor and at least grab some offensive rebounds, and occasionaly threaten to block a shot of a pentrating guard like Manu or Deron Williams.

My point - having not improved in this area at all and in fact having gone from 4 bigs to 3 the Suns certainly aren't the #3 improved team and they still have a huge - pardon the pun - hole to fill. And the problem is they have no money left to fill the hole unless they can get someone to take Banks.

My secret hope against hope is that they can somehow work a deal w/ Seattle for Sene or Petro which would still leave the Sonics w/ Wilcox, Collison, Swift and the 4th guy. I don't think the numbers work though and certainly noone is going to want Banks contract...

by Phoenix Stan on Jul 18, 2007 9:30 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Regarding Yi
So far, I've yet to hear anyone mention this:

http://www.china.org.cn/english/MATERIAL/216607.htm

"It is thought Yi wants to be in a major market with a large Chinese population - in many ways the opposite of Milwaukee. The city, in the northern state of Wisconsin, has a population of just 550,000 - only 1.7% of whom are of Chinese origin"

And I buy that.  Disregard all the potential sociopolitical pressure put upon him right NOW, and consider his life and how it WAS HIS INDOCTRIONATION from his upbringing:  maybe he's just a bit SCARED of moving to a place where there's this strange food called "cheese", and nobody looks like HIM.  China has become a more free society over the last 15 years, but at the same time, but internal pressures of their society often take precedence over the external pressures of foreign society, at quite a great strain.

flim springfield

by DrStrom on Jul 19, 2007 4:13 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Regarding Yi
So far, I've yet to hear anyone mention this:

http://www.china.org.cn/english/MATERIAL/216607.htm

"It is thought Yi wants to be in a major market with a large Chinese population - in many ways the opposite of Milwaukee. The city, in the northern state of Wisconsin, has a population of just 550,000 - only 1.7% of whom are of Chinese origin"

And I buy that.  Disregard all the potential sociopolitical pressure put upon him right NOW, and consider his life and how it WAS HIS INDOCTRIONATION from his upbringing:  maybe he's just a bit SCARED of moving to a place where there's this strange food called "cheese", and nobody looks like HIM.  China has become a more free society over the last 15 years, but at the same time, but internal pressures of their society often take precedence over the external pressures of foreign society, at quite a great strain.

flim springfield

by DrStrom on Jul 19, 2007 4:13 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

stupid clicking twice
bnlah
flim springfield

by DrStrom on Jul 19, 2007 4:14 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

KT to Seattle rumor
Of course it's only a rumor but it fits so well in this thread. First off, has anybody heard if we have actually signed Marks yet? I believe he hasn't actually signed a contract yet and if not, it's because Kerr is still looking for an upgrade.

The KT to Seattle rumor is interesting because the only trade scenario that works and makes any sense is Petro and Wilcox for KT. Seattle is at the cap and could be looking for relief next year when they might want to add another piece to their new nucleus.

In essence the trade allows them to dump Wilcox's contract a year early, and with Durant and Green up front, Wilcox is probably expendable since it will take a few years for the new guys to figure it out. They are very high on Swift as their center and with Sene and Petro, they have one too many projects in the post.

Petro would provide the 12-15 minutes of defense and shot-blocking that Hunter did and Wilcox would bring more size and younger legs at the 4.

I wonder if this rumor as any legs to it?

 

by Mihajlo on Jul 18, 2007 10:50 PM MDT   0 recs

I think Marks signed
As far as I know, Marks signed  last Wednesday. I haven't heard anything about that deal falling through. It kind of got overshadowed in all the Grant Hill news, but it sounded pretty definitely like it was going to happen at the first opportunity.

by TexSUN on Jul 18, 2007 11:54 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

OMG!
This would be a GREAT deal for the Suns. Wilcox is incredibly athletic and explosive and tough minded at the 4 and I have already said about twelve times 'round these parts how bad we need a 7ft'r that can run and block shots - which is either Sene or Petro (although I think Petro is the better of the two).

This would also make it MUCH easier to lose Marion which is bound to happen if not this year then next when his contract is up.

by Phoenix Stan on Jul 19, 2007 7:40 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice article
Surfing the net I found a very interesting article "The man behind Suns rise" on John MacLeod, former long-time Suns coach in HoopsHype.com
It's a nice read. MacLeod was the Suns' coach in The Greatest Game Ever game 5 of the 1976 NBA Finals in Boston.

by Son of Steve Nash on Jul 19, 2007 12:10 AM MDT   0 recs

So if ya'll thought Hollinger was over-optimistic
How about this guy? He even pronounces Grant Hill's signing as "the one offseason addition that could result in a championship". How's that for optimism?

by TexSUN on Jul 19, 2007 12:12 PM MDT   0 recs

No clue
Clearly this guy has no clue as evidenced by this comment:

After having trouble scoring in the conference semis against San Antonio, the Suns needed to add a reliable shot-maker.

The Suns scored just fine. They just weren't able to stop the Spurs when they needed to. With Amare off the floor with foul trouble that left the Suns w/ KT and then Marion and/or Diaw as the bigs. That's not going to get it done. Take a guess what I think the Suns need to add?

by Phoenix Stan on Jul 19, 2007 12:47 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Hey, no arguments here
I'd love to see them pick up somebody over 6'10" who might actually stand a chance of getting on the floor. Any ideas on how they could make that happen while also making it work financially? Play GM for a sec and let us know.

by TexSUN on Jul 19, 2007 1:37 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Lots of combinations work
I don't know Seattle's needs in depth but they have lots of bigs and not a lot of outside shooting.

So, Pike for Petro works.

KT has only one year left on his contract and could add "veteran presence" to a young Seattle team so KT for Petro and Wilcox works.

I would have to spend more time then I have now looking at other teams for a 3 way deal...  

by Phoenix Stan on Jul 19, 2007 2:02 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Steve lost big in the battle of MVPs
July 18: (2) LaDainian Tomlinson def. (3) Steve Nash (68.6% - 31.4%). That's the Who's Now ESPN contest.

by Son of Steve Nash on Jul 20, 2007 10:14 AM MDT   0 recs

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