Suns Take Care of Business Against Blazers (111-98)
As mentioned in the game thread and its comments, this game was kind of a measuring stick. When the Suns played the Blazers a couple of weeks ago, they were in the midst of that infamous post-trade slump. With both that game and this one being on the road, on the front end of a back-to-back, and after two day's rest, you really couldn't get a better apples-to-apples comparison than this. So what did we learn?
- Offensively, the Suns are still at their best when they're playing small. Most of the runs that broke this game open were made while Shaq and sometimes even Amare were on the bench. This has been a recurring trend lately, and it's not necessarily a bad thing. It just means we're seeing exactly what D'Antoni and Shaq promised when the trade was made: Shaq is functioning as "The Big Roleplayer", and the running game is still Plan A.
- The Suns shared the ball beautifully. Everybody on the team was channeling Steve Nash, who ended up with "only" eight assists himself. Five different Suns had three or more assists, and everybody who played significant minutes had at least one.
- Shaq was terrific, especially on defense. 16 points, 15 rebounds, 3 blocks, 7-of-9 from the field, and he somehow managed to only get three fouls despite locking horns repeatedly with Joel Przybilla. As Snowbird noted in the comments, Shaq's line was downright Marion-esque, only with a lot more toughness.
- Speaking of the toughness, lots of jawing and shoving going on between Shaq and Pryzbilla. Not my thing really, but hey, I won't be a spoilsport either since I know 99% of the people reading this were probably standing up in their chairs at home cheering.
- Really bad timing by Amare on his Matrix-like pleas for MVP attention. The boxscore makes it look like Amare did a pretty good job of nearly canceling out LaMarcus Aldridge, but that belies the fact that Aldridge's best came when the game was still within reach, while Amare had a few stat-padding moments at the end. Amare was in foul trouble most of the night, and the Suns didn't seem to miss a beat when he was out. Overall, his line looks great, but this wasn't the best showcase performance for his MVP campaign.
- Back to the apples-to-apples, if this game was a test, then I'd say the Suns passed with flying colors. Would it have been nice to have wrapped it up by the third quarter so the starters could rest up for tomorrow's game in Seattle? Of course. But they can't all be blowouts.
Runner-Up: LaMarcus Aldridge in a 31 point, 8 rebound performance that kept the Blazers within reach for the bulk of the game.
In Other News: What is it with Kevin Garnett and franchise-high winning streaks? After almost single-handedly busting the Suns' 17-game streak last year, KG did it again tonight as he and the Celtics positively laid waste to the Rockets' 22-game streak. Something for the Suns to look out for if they manage to extend their current run into next week.
Comments from srp:
This was a great win. Much better then the Warriors at home actually because they played solid D against a "normal" team and showed some outstanding offensive balance.
- Bell on Roy was great. He was playing him tight and then when Roy got by him he rode his ass like a tail-gaiting Texan. He gave him no room to manuever and feed him right into the lane for some good help D by the big fellas. That was a well concived and executed game plan against one of the games top guards.
- Aldridge looked solid taking the ball into Amare. Stat got some lousy calls and also had a few dumb ones. Overall, it wasn't a good game from Amare and you have to give LA credit. Still, I will take Amare every day of the week. But watch out in a few years w/ LA and Oden together..wow.
- I have thought for month's now that the team's secret plan for the playoffs is to make offense less dependent on Nash. They are back to that. Now, you have Hill, Diaw and Shaq out there and even GG can handle the ball and dish. Nash's assists are down but in this case that's a good thing. Team's aren't going to be able to load up on him and take the Suns out of their game come playoff time. Nash had 37min tonight but they seems like easy minutes. He wasn't having to work so hard every time down the floor to create something. And of course Blake/Jack is no Baron/Ellis.
- The bench is improving. I like that LB is taking less stupid shots and Diaw is playing much more consistently. And of course GG is a great addition. It was nice to see Coach go w/ Skinner, Diaw, GG, LB and Hill on the floor in the first half.
- The Big Daddy. Ok. I am starting, just starting, to come around. His effort is fantastic and his offense is starting to gel as well. This is a good matchup for him though. Pryzbo isn't going to pull him from the rim and abuse him like the Pistons and Jazz can. But still. Very nice game and the team really seems to be responding to him. I am not there yet, but the signs are getting better and better.
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The AP says
It was the biggest win at the Rose Garden this season.
We won every quarter, so this is about as close to a rout as might be feasible!
by ZonaFlash on Mar 19, 2008 12:28 AM MDT 0 recs
Cool!
by TexSUN on
Mar 19, 2008 12:30 AM MDT
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That sounds pretty serious!
The other good news is that we are now
- only 1 game back in the West.
- are now the hottest team in the NBA!*
*This is tonque-in-cheek: we share the longest winning streak (5) in the NBA with the Magic, following the Rockets lost. I don't think we're hot yet.
by ZonaFlash on
Mar 19, 2008 1:05 AM MDT
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As great as many players did tonight
On Amare, trying to pad his stats at the end, pretty sad. I've always liked it when both sides let the clock wind out when the game was way passed over.
Then Amare goes and does the opposite, notice he's the only one on the Suns, or for that case, most of the other teams that does that.
Couldn't stop thinking about Marion complaining when I read the AZ republic article also! Not a good thing,
by jasonsuns1 on Mar 19, 2008 2:21 AM MDT 0 recs
Giving LaMarcus his props
by Hawk42 on Mar 19, 2008 5:47 AM MDT 0 recs
No problem w/ Amare
- Amare is not Marion. I should say Marion is not Amare. When Marion complains about wanting more props it doesn't make any sense given his abilities (and team high salary). Amare - since calling himself out after the Lakers loss on Xmas - is playing a dominate game. His perimeter D has improved. His weakside blocks are amazing. His effort and rebounding are great. And of course he is hitting outside shots along w/ being as good a finisher at the rim as anyone anywhere
- Amare deserves more props nationally. The national media is always a few months behind the story and its time they caught up on Amare. He was the darling a few years ago and then fell off w/ his injury and a slow start to the season
- If getting attention and recognition is what makes this guy tick then so be it. And don't tell me he's not a team player and doesn't want to win. He is and he does. We all have ego's and those who don't (Boris) we criticize for not being agressive enough
by Phoenix Stan on
Mar 19, 2008 8:58 AM MDT
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No credit for "calling himself out"
To me it sounded more like he was mimicking the words of other superstars, in taking ownership for the loss.
I'm glad we have Amare and I love his game and I can forgive PR snafus as long as he beats LaMarcus back on D a few more times next time they play.
Okay, how about partial credit for Amare talking the talk?
by ZonaFlash on
Mar 19, 2008 10:10 AM MDT
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I photoshopped it.
I had made one like it a while ago for a forum, but then saw the Blazer's board and they had pictures in their signature, so I made one for here. The tags are all different in the blogosphere, so I'm still trying to get to know this place.
If there's something you would like me to make for you, I can try. I'm not an artist, so any starting pictures you want to use would be cool.
by ZonaFlash on
Mar 19, 2008 10:51 AM MDT
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and Hubris is bad how?
Yes, Amare is no Shaq but its not like LeBron isn't talking himself up and showing hubris.
I think this helps Amare and so I am no problem.
Now, if he starts getting his props and then goes back to playing poorly then blast him for that by all means.
by Phoenix Stan on
Mar 19, 2008 10:47 AM MDT
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He had a less
Also - think of his hubris and stat stuffing this way. The more pub he gets the more respect he gets on the floor from the other team. If teams are coming into the game focused too much on Amare the Suns will destroy. Other players will begin to fear him (even more) and that helps us too. If you are the Suns don't you want the other team focused on stopping (trying to stop) Amare instead of Nash? I think its ALL GOOD!
Btw - before comdemming Amare for those two LA break's let's check the tape and make sure that 1) Amare was even on the floor and 2) it wasn't one of those situations where Amare had switched or for whatever reason was under the rim and the rebound went long and LA had a big headstart.
I haven't gone back and checked but these things happen for all kinds of reasons besides lack of hussle by Amare....
by Phoenix Stan on
Mar 19, 2008 11:21 AM MDT
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Amare's performance last night
by TexSUN on
Mar 19, 2008 11:27 AM MDT
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Amare was on the floor, about 8 feet behind LA.
Both times.
And I totally agree. Amare had a good game. He played hard. He did good stuff. I just want to see him crush other teams even when they aren't the high profile glory games.
by ZonaFlash on
Mar 19, 2008 11:41 AM MDT
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Yep.
by TexSUN on
Mar 19, 2008 11:50 AM MDT
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Since you mentioned it...
by TexSUN on
Mar 19, 2008 11:03 AM MDT
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I don't know why
but I feel differently about the way Shaq or other top players boast and the way Amare does. I'm fine with Shaq's schtick. I think its more humorous than harmful.
I don't think STAT said anything really bad in his interviews, but I am concerned about the individual statistic focus. It's so obvious around the league that he's kind of like that.
Perhaps I'm like the parent that only sees the flaws. I'm really upset with Amare's lackluster play yesterday. He pretty much took the night off. Obviously, I'm overstating that, he played good but not great like we know he can. In his 28 minutes, did he get too tired to keep up with Aldridge?
by ZonaFlash on
Mar 19, 2008 11:09 AM MDT
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I'm pjilosophical about Amare
by Hawk42 on
Mar 19, 2008 11:32 AM MDT
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Ha ha!
It's not your fault - Amare let you down, to the tune of -2 plus-minus. This one is "on him" as he would like to say.
If he was into the game he could (and should) have owned LaMarcus.
by ZonaFlash on
Mar 19, 2008 10:49 AM MDT
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What do you think:
Is padding one's stats in the same ballpark as Ricky Davis trying to get a triple-double by purposefully (and harmlessly to the game outcome) missing a shot and collecting the rebound?
by ZonaFlash on Mar 19, 2008 10:59 AM MDT 0 recs
Ricky Freaking Davis
by Hawk42 on
Mar 19, 2008 11:37 AM MDT
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Hawk42, that's a good way to think about it
That's a very good observation about the difference. Ok, so not in the same ballpark.
What do you think: is it at least in the parking lot of the ballpark? :-)
I think its getting close and I think he building a reputation around the league for getting an extra ten points at the end of decided games, be they wins or losses.
So far, watching the last 5 games or so, I've heard the announcers of other teams twice say (once during a loss and yesterday), that here's Amare looking to pad his stats.
In my view, that's a bit much too much. It's not like leaving a guy in once in a blue moon because he has a chance to break his career high in points, threes, rebounds or whatever. Here its so systematic, and honestly, I can't remember any other player talked about like that.
by ZonaFlash on
Mar 19, 2008 11:52 AM MDT
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just something to talk about..
It doesn't really bother me. On the play I watched, Amare was waving excitedly about the shot clock, and I didn't think it looked good. He is not the best at PR. He's hardly the first to toot his own horn. Pete Rose knew his stats backwards and forwards. So did Curt Schilling. And you can bet LaDanian Tomlinson wasn't about to let a short yardage back score his touchdowns for him. Stats are what the game is about. Big guys get their rebounding stats padded when there are missed free throws. Nash gets free points when technicals are called, and at the end of a game when a team is fouling.
by Hawk42 on
Mar 19, 2008 12:26 PM MDT
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Trying to get at the topic another way:
I like it when Shaq says, "I don't hear enough about Amare Stoudemire!"
I agree! I want to hear about him everywhere! I want to hear about him as an MVP! I do!
But I want to hear about it from his game and from independent sources, not from Amare's mouth or from our team.
Amare can't be the MVP because he Dwight Howard's backup on the National team and Dwight Howard isn't even in the MVP running.
by ZonaFlash on Mar 19, 2008 11:24 AM MDT 0 recs
Thank you.
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Mar 19, 2008 11:31 AM MDT
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