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Who's Your MVP?

As the end of the regular season approaches, the MVP chatter is starting to heat up, and for the first time since 2005, the Suns are nowhere near the thick of it. Steve Nash is still an awesome point guard whose story is far from finished. He's likely to get a Hall of Fame call after he retires, and hopefully will pick up a ring or two along the way. But, he's probably won his last Maurice Podoloff Trophy. Amare will undoubtedly be in the discussion a year from now, but he's not quite there yet for this season. And so, we Suns fans are left to choose between a player many of us despise, one that may be too young, and one who's playing for a team that's struggling to hang onto the fourth seed in the (L)East.

Then of course, there's the guy who's helped lead one of the biggest single-season turnarounds ever in Boston, the always-steady rock who plays for the Spurs, and the freakishly athletic center who made that memorable Superman dunk at the All-Star game. Clearly, there are plenty of deserving candidates to choose from this year, even if none of them play for the Suns. Let's look at a few of them, and why they would or wouldn't be at the top of my non-existent ballot if the voting happened today.

Kobe Bryant
If the MVP award was just about sheer individual scoring ability, one could argue that Kobe should already have as many of these trophies stacked on his shelf as Michael Jordan. But there's that pesky thing called team success that has kept getting in his way--until now. Despite the fact some of his team's good fortune is the obvious result of that inexplicable trade that landed Pau Gasol for a bag of peanuts, the Lakers were actually doing pretty well even before the trade happened. The breakout of Andrew Bynum deserves some credit, as well as a healthy season from Lamar Odom, and the swapping of Smush Parker for Derek Fisher. But the main reason the Lakers are so good is that Kobe is individually great, and now that greatness has been paired with an improved roster with which Kobe has graciously blended into nicely. Ironically, in a season when Kobe's individual numbers are down, he's more likely to win--and deserve--an MVP award than ever before.

LeBron James
If you consider Player Efficiency Rating (PER) to be the end-all indicator of a player's worth, then LeBron is your guy. He's right at the top of the list (for the record, Kobe is 8th). He's having a career year in just about every statistical category: scoring, shooting percentage, rebounds, assists, blocks, and steals. Plus, with this now being his 5th season in he league, it's time to stop thinking of him as "too young" to be the MVP. The only problem is, his team isn't that good. They're currently hanging on for dear life to the fourth spot in the East. If they played in the West, they would be on the outside looking in if the playoffs started today. There seems to be an unspoken requirement for serious MVP contention that your team has to win at least 50 games. With a 41-33 record, that is no longer possible for LeBron.

Chris Paul
The argument against Chris Paul for MVP is simple: He's hasn't paid his dues yet. Otherwise, what's not to like about a guy who's likely to finish the season with more assists--and points--per game than two-time MVP Steve Nash ever has? He's also leading the league in steals, and most importantly has the Hornets (the Hornets!) vying for the top spot in the ultra-competitive West. This is a team that wasn't even a blip on the radar last season. How is this all that different from Nash and the Suns coming out of nowhere in 2005? CP3 without question represents the best combination of team success and individual contribution among the list of MVP candidates. (As an interesting side note, Charley Rosen disagrees with the CP3 for MVP argument, but does a nice job of breaking down the strengths and weaknesses of CP3, Nash, and Utah's Deron Williams).

Kevin Garnett
KG should probably be getting more consideration, given that his arrival had a major hand in changing the entire culture of a Celtics team that is now on its way to one of the largest single-season turnarounds ever. Unfortunately, his team was too good without him, going 7-2 in the nine games KG missed with the abdominal injury. He'll finish in the top five, but will have to look for a Finals MVP as his prize.

Tracy McGrady
More than anything else, McGrady will be remembered for leading his team on an unbelievable, historic 22-game winning streak, nearly half of which was done without Yao Ming. But, can the Rockets hang onto a top four seed? Even if they do, will T-Mac's many first round exits be held against him?

Dwight Howard
Howard hasn't been near the top of this discussion for quite some time, as his team has fallen off the radar a bit. Also, he's likely to be remembered more for his exploits in the All-Star dunk contest, than for his play during the season. Still, he's the main reason the Magic sit atop the Southeast Division, and he'll probably be in the mix for the #5 spot in the MVP voting.

Tim Duncan
No list of MVP candidates can be complete without mentioning the guy who keeps leading the Spurs to championships, while flying quietly under the radar.

Steve Nash and Amare Stoudemire
Most in the national media (and the blogosphere) still seem to be tabbing Nash as the token MVP representative for the Suns, even though Amare is #3 on the aforementioned PER list, and looks to be gradually becoming the undisputed focal point of the offense. I'm going to dodge that issue for now, and just mention them both at the same time. It's unlikely that either will finish in the top five, and that's fine by me. The Suns have bigger fish to fry these days.

Dirk Nowitzki
You've got to include last season's MVP on a list like this, if for no other reason than as a sad reminder of how fast things can change in this league. With the Mavericks going down in flames, and Dirk forced to watch from the sidelines, there's zero chance he'll follow his buddy Nash as a repeat Podoloff winner.

Deron Williams
Barring a late season surge by the Jazz, it's highly unlikely that Williams will finish anywhere near the top five. But, he can console himself with knowing that he's maybe the only point guard in the league who can slow down Chris Paul.

Who gets my vote?
I understand all the people who think it's time to give Kobe his due. I really do. He's stood by the past three seasons while voters ignored his amazing individual achievements in favor of players with lesser numbers who played for better teams. Now that he's one of those players, are we really going to deny him just because his numbers aren't as good as they were in the past? It seems rather hypocritical doesn't it? Still, the MVP isn't supposed to be a Lifetime Achievement award given to someone just because "it's time". Even though Kobe has done everything he needed to do to finally win this thing (even playing with a busted pinkie!), I have to give my non-existent vote to someone I feel deserves it even more.

I think if Chris Paul had a few more years under his belt, and had the kind of year he's having, the vote wouldn't even be close. The MVP award is supposed to be about the the current season, not for all the times a player has been snubbed in the past. It isn't supposed to be about age either, nor about what a player has proven during the playoffs. It's a regular season award for the current regular season. I think CP3 is having a better season than Kobe, and he's doing it on a team that has no earthly reason to be as high in the standings as it is. But don't despair, Kobe fans. My vote doesn't count, and I imagine the votes that do count will favor your guy in the end. For the first time ever, I can live with that.

Poll
Who gets your vote for MVP if the season ended today?
Kevin Garnett
19 votes
Tim Duncan
9 votes
Dwight Howard
1 votes
Tracy McGrady
2 votes
Steve Nash
43 votes
Amare Stoudemire
64 votes
Somebody else
7 votes
Kobe Bryant
138 votes
Chris Paul
151 votes
LeBron James
22 votes

456 votes | Poll has closed

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Manu Ginobili should get mentioned, as he's fourth in the league in PER [mainly as a sixth man!] and has been the MVP on the best team in the West.

However, Chris Paul should be the league's MVP. Double digits in points and assists, second in the league in PER, and the floor leader of the team that's right there with the Spurs at the top of the West.

by Key on Mar 31, 2008 2:02 AM MDT   0 recs

I actually agree
w/ Key for once. Mano is the MVP on the Spurs team and is at least as worthy of a mention this year as Nash.
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by Phoenix Stan on Mar 31, 2008 8:14 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I had him on the list...
...until he moved back to the bench. Has there ever been an MVP who came off the bench? Regardless, he's a lock for 6th man of the year, so he won't go unnoticed.

by TexSUN on Mar 31, 2008 8:22 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

yup

statistically he's there and in the discussion.  Read my swan song about "Manu the Masochist" in my diary.

But I don't understand if he was the NBA's most valuable player, why would he come off the bench instead of Duncan?

Just an idle question, really.  

If you could draft one player for your imaginary team's playoff run, based on the regular season, who would it be.  Imagine the playground, and you pick the team first, who do you pick to win?

by ZonaFlash on Mar 31, 2008 8:26 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I
Voted for the guy who models himself on Nash.
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by dang on Apr 3, 2008 3:53 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

MVP has to go to CP3
First of all, watch out for your trophies, folks, there's a Spurs fan lurking.  

Ahem.  What was I saying?  OK...

There's no way anyone other than Duncan wins it from the Spurs.  Any assertion that TD is not the most valuable player of the San Antonio team is fantasy.  They become an ordinary team without him, probably missing the playoffs.

I don't buy into the sentimental MVP choice, like Barkley, Robinson, and Malone in the 90s when MJ was so obviously the most valuable, it was a joke.

If anyone saw the Grizzlies play the Lakers the other day, it is clear why Kobe cannot be the MVP.  He scored 49 in the first 41 minutes of the game, but when his team needed him most, he didn't come though in an important game.  He was out there, but he wasn't agressive and seemed disinterested.  He passed off on several posessions, and was outhustled by his man.  Although he has worlds more talent than The Matrix, he seems to have the same 'I've done my part, it's your turn' kind of attitude.

I don't go for Garnett for the above mentioned reason.  If you consider LeBron, you have to consider Amare just as seriously, since they have comparable PER scores.  On the Cavs with less offensive options, Amare would be averaging 30.  His superior free throw shooting gives him a big edge over King James, making him valuable in the final minutes, and neither has distinguishes himself on defense.  Amare gets after it better in the 4th quarter, and LBJ is the better playmaker.  Comparing Amare with Kobe, when was the last time you saw Amare check out in the 4th when his team needed him?

There is an obvious candidate that is head and shoulders above the rest, and that is Chris Paul.  Who would have thought he could lift a thin Hornets team to the top of the conference?  He dominates the ball like Kobe, yet his team doesn't suffer.  The argument that he hasn't 'paid his dues' is laughable.  Actually that is one of many things wrong with the MVP vote.  Since when do you have to pay your dues?  The award is for the Most Valuable for the current season.  This logic is probable why Barkley, Robinson, and Malone won when Michael dominated them.  If you want to recognize players who have'paid their dues', give them a Lifetime Achievement award, like at the Academy Awards.  The Oscar goes to the Best Actor, THAT YEAR.  When Titanic came out, do you give the Oscar to Robin Williams, because he has 'paid his dues', or do you give it to DiCaprio?

'07-'08 Suns: It's clobberin' time!

by Hawk42 on Mar 31, 2008 6:06 AM MDT   0 recs

Hey
we don't steal trophies - but we are making room for another one. :-)

Before this season, TD always had been the Spurs MVP [except for the 2005 Finals, when Manu should have been MVP]. But this year, Manu has been something special with key clutch performances, and there were times when the Spurs were really struggling and Manu almost single-handedly pulled them through. But regardless, TD and Manu both have an indomitable desire to win, and they are the two biggest reasons why the oldest team in the league could still win another championship.

Don't throw David Robinson into your list of 1990's "non-deserving MVP's." The Admiral won it in 1995 when MJ wasn't even playing [i.e. you have to actually play to be eligible for the award]. DR was clearly the MVP that year [though Olajuwon got the best of him in the WC finals].

by Key on Mar 31, 2008 12:12 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

DR = class
You're right, I like the Admiral.  About the only thing I have ever liked about your team.  He had class.   Stupid lottery and Armon Gilliam....

Also, I grant you the Spurs were opportunistic thugs last year, but not thieves.  That title goes to a certain short New york lawyer.

'07-'08 Suns: It's clobberin' time!

by Hawk42 on Apr 1, 2008 6:47 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm kind of numb to all of it

I'm fine with Bryant, Bron or Garnett but will choose Kevin Garnett.

Here's my MVP criteria.  

Which MVP candidate would I draft for my playoff run with any generic team, based upon regular season performance?

This question excludes considerations about past years and future years, as the draftee is a rental.

I would draft Kevin Garnett for his size, peak performance and intensity.  All those other players are good, but I would prefer to roll with the big guy.

by ZonaFlash on Mar 31, 2008 8:01 AM MDT   0 recs

its simple
Both Garnett and CP3 deserve the MVP title, they made a non-playoff team into the #1 conference team.

Kobe cried in the preseason and wanted to be traded! How is that an MVP?!?

Garnett made basketball fun again in Boston, where fotball and baseball used to be dominant for a while now ...

Chris Paul made people talk positively for the first about NO in terms of basketball!

Kobe will buy another $4 million diamond ring (but this time to Mr Stern) and win it all. It is so sad!

Most Improved Player = Hill!

by emirem on Mar 31, 2008 12:07 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Why Garnett should win.
The actual games are like the part of the iceberg you see above water. What happens in the locker room is almost as important.

Garnett changed the team in deep and profound ways.  Restored Celtic Pride, and returned a fierceness to the team, that had been missing since Bird & McHale played.  Transformed the team from pussies to tigers.  Led by example.

Resulted in the biggest losses/wins turnaround in NBA history.  Resulted in leagues best defensive team.  Team is also on track for 65 wins

by Pliny the Elder on Mar 31, 2008 3:03 PM MDT   0 recs

KG also gets it on the defensive end

Wing players are all flash, but its the big guys who get the job done.  

by ZonaFlash on Mar 31, 2008 4:55 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Marsha, Marsha, MARSHA!
KG deserves votes.

CP3 wins.

Why?

  1. You forgot Ray Allen.  Stick a great player on a team with two other Hall of Fame Players, in a weak division in a weak conference, and OF COURSE he's gonna look good.
  2. Chris Paul has...David West.  Occasionally Peja shows up to shoot....and this is the team leading the STRONGEST division in the Association.
  3. Numbers:  Chris Paul IS 20-10-5 [or close to, at least] (remember KG's famed declaration and commercial)...except CP's don't come as easy. Neither do the steals.  
Screw the win-loss ratio:  Going from 'out' to '1st' in the West is far more of a jump than 'great trades' to '1st' in the East.

4) (This I do not agree with) Media Bias:  There's always been an East Coast media bias in the major sports  of the United States, but this time, it won't be for that reason...it'll be because KG has already won an MVP, and while his story might sell...first time All-Star, Crown Prince of the Point Guards, in a city mostly destroyed by a hurricane, bringing back the faith...that sells a lot more.

flim springfield

by DrStrom on Apr 8, 2008 2:07 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

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