Also, that "It doesn't surprise me that Kevin would identify a mountain that needs to be climbed and start climbing it. Look, I don't know what the obstacles are and what he's overcome so far and remains to be overcome, but it doesn't surprise me at all that he would tackle something he feels so strongly about. And I don't think he commits himself to anything he doesn't feel strong about, either. Kevin is tenacious, so it doesn't surprise me whenever he achieves something."